[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Jasprit Bumrah is the best fast-bowler in the world right now

[Devadwal]

Bumrah isn’t better than Rabada and Cummins in Test cricket and bakhts want to put him in the top 3 of all-time.

Once a poster said " 90% Pakistan cricket fans are delusional "

 

[RidiculousMan]

Bumrah isn’t better than Rabada and Cummins in Test cricket and bakhts want to put him in the top 3 of all-time.

Across all formats right now I rate. 1. Rabada, 2. Bumrah and 3. Cummins.

Bumrah needs to continously perform for a decade or so to be even considered in all time conversation. The hype from Indian fans is coming from the fact that India never really had great fast bowlers. So this is probably the first time they are witnessing a potential like Bumrah. But in world Cricket there has been many like him before and even better ones - which we call the true GOATs today.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

as can be seen from the 8-ZIP ODI WC phainta and 15-1 in big whiteball events overall ? most of which did not involve Bumrah.

That's it? That is the best you have got? @Mamoon was discussing all-time XIs and Bumrah, and your response is a World Cup head-to-head record against Pakistan just because @Mamoon is from Pakistan and you had nothing meaningful to counter his point. Maybe stick to cows and sheds, that's more your lane.

 

[BouncerGuy]

PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC OF BUMRAH HERE.

NO PERSOANL REMARKS

 

[mominsaigol]

Once a poster said " 90% Pakistan cricket fans are delusional "

He was including you in that 90%. Don't worry, you're not in the 10%.

 

[Devadwal]

He was including you in that 90%. Don't worry, you're not in the 10%.

I'm not Pakistani. NEVER will be .

 

[Mamoon]

Once a poster said " 90% Pakistan cricket fans are delusional "

That might be true, but the delusion level of Indian fans is 99.99%

 

[Devadwal]

That might be true, but the delusion level of Indian fans is 99.99%

Just like your prediction of " England players are mentality stronger than India so they will win the World T20 2024 ".

Anyway good that you Stop supporting us , we have won back to back trophy and Bumrah is going to win another Trophy in 2026.

Rok sako to rok lena

 

[Mamoon]

Across all formats right now I rate. 1. Rabada, 2. Bumrah and 3. Cummins.

Bumrah needs to continously perform for a decade or so to be even considered in all time conversation. The hype from Indian fans is coming from the fact that India never really had great fast bowlers. So this is probably the first time they are witnessing a potential like Bumrah. But in world Cricket there has been many like him before and even better ones - which we call the true GOATs today.

I don’t blame Indians for going overboard. It is understandable when prior to Bumrah, your greatest fast bowlers of all time were Zaheer, Srinath and Kapil while everyone else was a clown.

However, some really go overboard and act as if Bumrah is the second coming of Jesus.

Then again, it is incredibly difficult to counter Indian narrative due to their presence. A cricket nation that managed to brand average cricketers like Dhoni and Laxman as greats of the game can also force Bumrah into GOAT conversation.

There are so many cricketers out there in other countries whose status and reputation would be 10x greater had they been Indians. You will struggle to find a single Indian cricketer who is as good as the brand value and public perception suggests.

 

[mominsaigol]

I'm not Pakistani. NEVER will be .

You're on a Pakistani forumn, interacting with Pakistani's on a Pakistani site. Quit the drama. Their are indian forumns as well but you choose to spend your time here.

Infact I remember i had 7K more comments then you in 2024.

Currently you've surpassed me in comment count meaning you've been far far more active.

You got no right to talk

 

[Devadwal]

Seem like world has not seen Bumrah calibre level bowler so some posters are burning inside. Keep burning

 

[uppercut]

Does the game of cricket revolve around Pakistan vs India WC matches only?

naah YOU tell me how does it feel to get PWNED by the supposedly drinks carriers of alltime D XI 15 times across 30+ years ... didnt think thru that did ya ?

 

[BouncerGuy]

PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC OF BUMRAH HERE.

NO PERSONAL REMARKS

Again

 

[Rafale Nidhal]

for me he chucks, unless ICC investigates and clears him.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

naah YOU tell me how does it feel to get PWNED by the supposedly drinks carriers of alltime D XI 15 times across 30+ years ... didnt think thru that did ya ?

He doesn't need to, because this thread isn't about India vs Pakistan World Cup matches. You are coming across as quite desperate for attention.

 

[RexRex]

Bumrah is easily Top 3 Pacer of all time .just need another 100@20 test wickets to seal the legacy.

Top 3 is underselling him. He is the GOAT imo.

 

[Mamoon]

naah YOU tell me how does it feel to get PWNED by the supposedly drinks carriers of alltime D XI 15 times across 30+ years ... didnt think thru that did ya ?

If you want to engage me, please learn to write properly. If you don’t improve your writing, you will not earn my reply in the future.

Anyway, I will be kind enough to respond to the above this time. Firstly, Pakistan vs India H2H in WCs has absolutely nothing to do with where Bumrah ranks in history. However, I am not surprised because Indian posters love to deflect and go on a tangent.

Nevertheless, now that you have brought it up, WC H2H results are completely inconsequential because the only thing that matters in a cup is whether you win the cup or not.

If you win the tournament, you don’t care who you beat and who you lose to. Similarly, if you fail to win the tournament, no one cares who you beat and who you lost to.

When India steamrolled everyone including Pakistan en route to the 2023 WC Final before getting humbled by Australia, did anyone care about the fact that it was their only defeat of the tournament? Of course not, because at the end of the day, India left the tournament empty-handed like everyone except Australia.

The only WC wins that should matter to India are 2007, 2011 and 2024, because they ended up winning the tournaments. All the other results were completely irrelevant because India, like Pakistan except 1992, finished with nothing in their hands.

The reason why India fixates over WC H2H results is because the overall H2H humiliates them, so they want to be selective about it.

Moreover, no matter how many times India beats Pakistan in WCs, they cannot return the favor of 2017 when Pakistan nuked India. An 8th ranked Pakistan team (lowest in the tournament) inflicted the heaviest defeat in history of ICC tournaments on one of India’s greatest ever teams.

No team has been brutalized by a bigger margin in an ICC Final before and this record might stand the test of time because it is practically impossible to be humiliated any worse than that.

The 180 runs defeat is literally the biggest defeat by runs any team has ever suffered in an ICC final.

Beating India by 180 runs to win a tournament, it doesn’t get better than that. I will not trade it for any WC match that Pakistan lost to India.

 

[Mamoon]

Top 3 is underselling him. He is the GOAT imo.

Not only is he the GOAT, he also taught McGrath, Ambrose, Wasim, Marshall, Holding and Imran how to bowl in his previous janam.

 

[uppercut]

If you want to engage me, please learn to write properly. If you don’t improve your writing, you will not earn my reply in the future.Anyway, I will be kind enough to respond to the above this time.

don't kid yourself into thinking that you are some big cheese. You deserve nothing more than being bullied like a Johnny come lately kiddo on anything involving cricket. Try again and I will gently school you on Cricket. I promise I will be polite.

Firstly, Pakistan vs India H2H in WCs has absolutely nothing to do with where Bumrah ranks in history.

When did I claim that ? The point was if you are going to crowe about fast bowling pedigree where is the evidence that your own team accomplished anything vs the sworn enemy a.k.a "dushman mulk" with the supposedly phsahht bowling factory ?

However, I am not surprised because Indian posters love to deflect and go on a tangent.

Nevertheless, now that you have brought it up, WC H2H results are completely inconsequential because the only thing that matters in a cup is whether you win the cup or not. If you win the tournament, you don’t care who you beat and who you lose to. Similarly, if you fail to win the tournament, no one cares who you beat and who you lost to.

How do you explain your entire nation going on a meltdown after winning the one and only T20 WC match vs India circa 2021 ? How do you explain Wasim Akram getting death threats after the 1996 QF Exit when he did not even play in QF ? Further more why does he get hounded some 25+ yrs later about that match by your own fans ?​

When India steamrolled everyone including Pakistan en route to the 2023 WC Final before getting humbled by Australia, did anyone care about the fact that it was their only defeat of the tournament? Of course not, because at the end of the day, India left the tournament empty-handed like everyone except Australia.

The only WC wins that should matter to India are 2007, 2011 and 2024, because they ended up winning the tournaments. All the other results were completely irrelevant because India, like Pakistan except 1992, finished with nothing in their hands.

And how many does your Phsht bowling factory have ? Venkatesh Prasad and Srinath have more wkts than your supposedly greatest fast bowlers. You can swoon over their records and the amount of swing. Deal with it.

The reason why India fixates over WC H2H results is because the overall H2H humiliates them, so they want to be selective about it.

Moreover, no matter how many times India beats Pakistan in WCs, they cannot return the favor of 2017 when Pakistan nuked India. An 8th ranked Pakistan team (lowest in the tournament) inflicted the heaviest defeat in history of ICC tournaments on one of India’s greatest ever teams.

No team has been brutalized by a bigger margin in an ICC Final before and this record might stand the test of time because it is practically impossible to be humiliated any worse than that.

The 180 runs defeat is literally the biggest defeat by runs any team has ever suffered in an ICC final.

Beating India by 180 runs to win a tournament, it doesn’t get better than that. I will not trade it for any WC match that Pakistan lost to India.

Naah quite nothing like evicting a home team from its own tournament in 3 days after forcing you to play in Dubai against your wisher.

also does it occur to you that you have exactly one win vs 3 for India ?

ohh and let me know when you want to talk about the small matter of evicting your team from numerous worldcups to the extent that your kaum still cries about past phianta's till today.

 

[RexRex]

Not only is he the GOAT, he also taught McGrath, Ambrose, Wasim, Marshall, Holding and Imran how to bowl in his previous janam.

Envy is the ulcer of the soul – Socrates

 

[Mamoon]

Envy is the ulcer of the soul – Socrates

Attributing fake quotes to Greek philosophers doesn’t make you smart. - Mamoon

 

[Mamoon]

don't kid yourself into thinking that you are some big cheese. You deserve nothing more than being bullied like a Johnny come lately kiddo on anything involving cricket. Try again and I will gently school you on Cricket. I promise I will be polite.

I have been uppercutting people like for 14 years. I can handle at least 20 like you in one go. You can try me but as I said, make sure your writing is articulate enough to attract my attention. I usually don’t read poorly written stuff.

When did I claim that ? The point was if you are going to crowe about fast bowling pedigree where is the evidence that your own team accomplished anything vs the sworn enemy a.k.a "dushman mulk" with the supposedly phsahht bowling factory ?

How about we start with the fact that Pakistan has a superior H2H vs India in both Tests and ODIs and reduced Tendulkar to a 42 averaging batsman in Test cricket?

That is enough evidence to suggest that Pakistan has had the wood over India in terms of pace bowling in spite of the fact that India have always had a formidable batting unit.

How do you explain your entire nation going on a meltdown after winning the one and only T20 WC match vs India circa 2021 ?

Winning such matches provide momentarily happiness but they don’t mean anything if you don’t win the tournament. That WC is remembered for Pakistan losing the SF to Australia after having the game in its grasp and when we lost the SF, no one consoled themselves because we whacked the daylights out of India. That match is only brought up when Indian trolls like you get out of their lane.

How do you explain Wasim Akram getting death threats after the 1996 QF Exit when he did not even play in QF ? Further more why does he get hounded some 25+ yrs later about that match by your own fans ?

Pakistan were the favorites to defend the WC and Wasim Akram is rightfully criticized for faking an injury prior to the QF. He sold out and cost Pakistan the WC. Had Indian gone onto win the WC, he would have been criticized even more.

Indian lifting the WC in Lahore after buying Wasim Akram would have been a nightmare.

And how many does your Phsht bowling factory have ? Venkatesh Prasad and Srinath have more wkts than your supposedly greatest fast bowlers. You can swoon over their records and the amount of swing and whatever but when it comes to show-time they were big pussies. Deal with it.

Wasim and Waqar have 1,917 wickets between them. Wasim has a MOM performance in a WC Final that Pakistan won. What are the career achievements of Srinath and Prasad? Neither of the two will carry drinks for an all-time Pakistan XI.

Naah quite nothing like evicting a home team from its own tournament in 3 days after forcing you to play in Dubai against your wisher.

You can tell yourself that, but there are no records for how quickly a team is eliminated, but you can always search for the heaviest defeat any team has suffered in an ICC Final and you know what the answer will be. Do you think the answer will ever change?

also does it occur to you that you have exactly one win vs 3 for India ?

ohh and let me know when you want to talk about the small matter of evicting your team from numerous worldcups to the extent that your kaum still cries about past phianta's till today.

As I said, India can win 30 CTs and eliminate Pakistan from 30 WCs, but it will not make up for the biggest defeat any team has ever suffered in an ICC Final.

 

[uppercut]

I have been uppercutting people like for 14 years. I can handle at least 20 like you in one go.

And I have been decimating internet tough guys like you in their own backyard for fun .... two can play this game very easily ... try again. And yeah I will most definitely school you every day on cricket.

You can try me but as I said, make sure your writing is articulate enough to attract my attention. I usually don’t read poorly written stuff.

sounds more like you are setting up exit clauses already ? Perhaps the signs of inevitable ownage has already occured to you lol

How about we start with the fact that Pakistan has a superior H2H vs India in both Tests and ODIs and reduced Tendulkar to a 42 averaging batsman in Test cricket?

Who gives a rats tail ? Its a meaningless record when there are literally decades of gaps making it even more farcicle. Ohhh and unless you have been living under a rock none of the big teams really care about bilateral white-ball series since a long time. Deal with it.

That is enough evidence to suggest that Pakistan has had the wood over India in terms of pace bowling in spite of the fact that India have always had a formidable batting unit.

Says who ? YOU !! The fact of the matter is that we have PWNED you

Winning such matches provide momentarily happiness but they don’t mean anything if you don’t win the tournament. That WC is remembered for Pakistan losing the SF to Australia after having the game in its grasp and when we lost the SF, no one consoled themselves because we whacked the daylights out of India. That match is only brought up when Indian trolls like you get out of their lane.

News flash .... unless you have been living under a rock the reality is quite the opposite. years later you can see green shirts with 152-0 lol and ofcourse Rizbar are stlll milking it.... try again

Pakistan were the favorites to defend the WC and Wasim Akram is rightfully criticized for faking an injury prior to the QF. He sold out and cost Pakistan the WC. Had Indian gone onto win the WC, he would have been criticized even more.Indian lifting the WC in Lahore after buying Wasim Akram would have been a nightmare.

Except he wasn't faking an injury. Didn't I tell you I would school you in anything about cricket ? Try again.

Wasim and Waqar have 1,917 wickets between them. Wasim has a MOM performance in a WC Final that Pakistan won. What are the career achievements of Srinath and Prasad? Neither of the two will carry drinks for an all-time Pakistan XI.

Genius I am talking about Wkts in WC matches .... Venky has more wkts than both Wasim and Wawar combined .... suck on that. And you can shove those gazillion wkts where the sun dont shine. the fact of the matter is that Wasim and Waqar will never hear the end of the 96 WF loss for the rest of their lives. Pretty sure they would EASILY trade 100s of wkts in useless bilaterals for a win in that 96 Q/F. And then there was the ownage of Amir Sohail ... talk about cherry on the top.​

You can tell yourself that, but there are no records for how quickly a team is eliminated,

It is a fact ... deal with it.

but you can always search for the heaviest defeat any team has suffered in an ICC Final and you know what the answer will be. Do you think the answer will ever change?

As I said, India can win 30 CTs and eliminate Pakistan from 30 WCs, but it will not make up for the biggest defeat any team has ever suffered in an ICC Final.

Yeah soo important that you had written it off as a fluke ... do you want me to bump that thread so you can argue with your own self ? lol

 

[Mamoon]

Genius I am talking about Wkts in WC matches .... Venky has more wkts than both Wasim and Wawar combined .... suck on that.​

Oh dear. I promised myself I wouldn’t respond to your verbal diarrhea unless I see something intelligent, but I just couldn’t ignore this.

This is exactly how Indians try to spread fake news and propaganda and end up embarrassing themselves after getting caught in their own web of lies.

• Wasim has 55 wickets in WC
• Waqar has 22 wickets in WC
• Prasad has 24 wickets in WC

55+22=77
77 > 24

Now that you have dug yourself a gigantic hole, you have the following four options to choose from:

(a) admit that you cannot count
(b) admit that you cannot read English
(c) neither of the above, but you just wanted to lie
(d) “but but but, I was talking about Pakistan vs India WC matches only”

Checkmate, but thanks for playing. See you later

 

[Rajdeep]

Bumrah went for 20 runs in his first over in today's crucial IPL semi final game and got hammered by Jos Inglish

Looks like he couldnt recover in time from @Mamoon bhai's rants

 

[uppercut]

Oh dear. I promised myself I wouldn’t respond to your verbal diarrhea unless I see something intelligent, but I just couldn’t ignore this.

This is exactly how Indians try to spread fake news and propaganda and end up embarrassing themselves after getting caught in their own web of lies.

• Wasim has 55 wickets in WC
• Waqar has 22 wickets in WC
• Prasad has 24 wickets in WC

55+22=77
77 > 24

Now that you have dug yourself a gigantic hole, you have the following four options to choose from:

(a) admit that you cannot count
(b) admit that you cannot read English
(c) neither of the above, but you just wanted to lie
(d) “but but but, I was talking about Pakistan vs India WC matches only”

Checkmate, but thanks for playing. See you later

Ohh boy .... I am referring to WC matches between India and Pakistan . ... go troll someone else in your light weight category.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Can't stop laughing. @Mamoon landed an uppercut on @uppercut.

When your name is @uppercut but you are the one hitting the floor.

 

[cricfan432]

Bumrah maybe the world's best fast bowler right now if we consider lois, but in tests you cant compare with SENA fast bowlers who grow up on spicy pitches, obviously they'll be better. But Bumrah can be considered as one of the best asian fast bowler.

 

[mominsaigol]

Can't stop laughing. @Mamoon landed an uppercut on @uppercut.

When your name is @uppercut but you are the one hitting the floor.

Or maybe he's still on the ceiling and gravity hasn't taken effect yet

 

[Bhaijaan]

Jasprit Bumrah needs only 5 Wickets to become Only Asian with 150 Test Wickets in SENA Countries

Most Test Wickets by Asians in SENA

146 - Wasim Akram (24.11)
145 - 𝗝𝗮𝘀𝗽𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗕𝘂𝗺𝗿𝗮𝗵 (21.02)
141 - Anil Kumble (37.04)
130 - Ishant Sharma (36.86)
125 - M Muralidharan (26.69)
123 - Mohammed Shami (32.88)
119 - Zaheer Khan (31.47)
117 - Kapil Dev (33.07)
113 - Waqar Younis (29.15)

@James

Give those 5 wickets sooner

 

[BouncerGuy]

Ravichandran Ashwin speaking on his Youtube Channel:

"I have praised him a lot. But the word you said will not come out of my mouth. But the point is, he is fabulous. That's all I want to leave. He was born in this world. All these things become a soap opera. I am not one of those drama artists. I don't want to market anyone. But he is a fabulous cricketer.”

"I really wish that we go that route (In giving Bumrah the same respect as Tendulkar and Kohli). I am still saying that as much as we do for Rohit Sharma, or Virat Kohli, or Sachin Tendulkar, we don't do the same for Jassi. Definitely more than what a bowler usually has. He's got a lot of respect. He's got a lot of fans. A lot of people love him. I am his number one fan. Maybe his wife could be number one, competing for it. I am his number one fan.”

"He is on a different pedestal. He is in a different world. And the problem is, it's not about the uniqueness of his action. It is about the quality of execution. How does he execute? The way he troubled Joe Root in the first innings, proper. Joe Root was not able to pick the length. The ball was a little far. He could have played the rest of the bowlers in the backfoot, would have tapped it to third man. But not to Bumrah.”

"He came forward. Because he was worried about the ball nipping back in. And he didn't pick the length. He chased it a little. It went in the slip. He is just a fabulous bowler. The ball of Zak Crawley in the first innings, how many can he bowl that? He is almost past the vertical. From there, he dropped it in the middle stump. He has taken that out. That needs great awareness, great wrist position, quality execution, and an unbelievable amount of work to try and keep his body in that shape to do this.”

"He is on a different plane altogether. And I would be very proud to say I played with Jassi. I batted against Jassi. I was in a team with Jassi. And I have seen some fabulous victories. And I have played together with him. He is one of the legends. He is right up there. If not, better than some of the batters in our country."

 

[mominsaigol]

Jasprit Bumrah needs only 5 Wickets to become Only Asian with 150 Test Wickets in SENA Countries

Most Test Wickets by Asians in SENA

146 - Wasim Akram (24.11)
145 - 𝗝𝗮𝘀𝗽𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗕𝘂𝗺𝗿𝗮𝗵 (21.02)
141 - Anil Kumble (37.04)
130 - Ishant Sharma (36.86)
125 - M Muralidharan (26.69)
123 - Mohammed Shami (32.88)
119 - Zaheer Khan (31.47)
117 - Kapil Dev (33.07)
113 - Waqar Younis (29.15)

@James

Give those 5 wickets sooner

Ofcourse he got their? All he does is play outside his home den ever since the NZ botch

 

[Ab Fan]

Most test wickets by Asian fast bowlers since 2000:-

 

[BouncerGuy]

Bumrah is great but he is not a guy who will work day and night and play every game. He plays few games of his choice and BCCI is saving him from any kind of injury.

 

[Buffet]

Away all venues outside Asia: Top 5 bunched together and then a decent gap.




Away in all countries: Top 6 bunch together and then a gap starts showing.




It's the usual suspects in both,

Bumrah
Marshall
Hadlee
McGrath
Ambrose

 

[Hikaru]

Away all venues outside Asia: Top 5 bunched together and then a decent gap.

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Away in all countries: Top 6 bunch together and then a gap starts showing.

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It's the usual suspects in both,

Bumrah
Marshall
Hadlee
McGrath
Ambrose

To not just be in that company, but to be leading it, it's hard to fathom what Bumrah is doing today. Add ODIs and T20s, and it all becomes almost superhuman.

 

[Buffet]

To not just be in that company, but to be leading it, it's hard to fathom what Bumrah is doing today. Add ODIs and T20s, and it all becomes almost superhuman.

Pitches in general have been more friendly for pacers in recent years, but then Bumrah added 2 away 5-fers in this series with super flat pitches.

 

[Ab Fan]

All hail Bumrah! The usual suspects who were bashing him after 1 day of test must be hiding in the corner now.

 

[pillionrider]

I didn't see the 5th wicket moment of Bumrah live but just saw a replay now. Looks like Siraj raised his hand for him to the crowd and Bumrah quickly put down his hand like he didn't give a damn about what Pakistanis or the Brits think of his performances

 

[Buffet]

Thread was started as early as 2018.

Now it's 2025.

7 years and counting .....

At first, I saw Bumrah as a good limited overs bowler and did not think that he will become great in the Test format.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Bumrah on a roll here

 

[pillionrider]

Thread was started as early as 2018.

Now it's 2025.

7 years and counting .....

At first, I saw Bumrah as a good limited overs bowler and did not think that he will become great in the Test format.

Same. I used to watch the IPL diligently back then and I remember him getting Dravid out and waving him off dismissively. The confidence from what seemed like a village bowler (his action) back then was stunning and I started telling my friends he was going to play for India. Which seemed ridiculous at the time. But not ever, never did I think he would a great test bowler. I thought T20 and with luck, maybe ODIs.

 

[Buffet]

Same. I used to watch the IPL diligently back then and I remember him getting Dravid out and waving him off dismissively. The confidence from what seemed like a village bowler (his action) back then was stunning and I started telling my friends he was going to play for India. Which seemed ridiculous at the time. But not ever, never did I think he would a great test bowler. I thought T20 and with luck, maybe ODIs.

Due to late release , he is very hard to face. Ball comes quicker. Then he moves the ball both ways, reverse, swing, seam, slower ball ... pretty much everything you can ask. Hardest bowler to face in the last 30-35 years I have seen.

 

[Golu-momin]

All hail Bumrah! The usual suspects who were bashing him after 1 day of test must be hiding in the corner now.

Bumrah is dAddy of hatersBest fast bowler only comparable to Malcom marshall.

 

[JaDed]

Thread was started as early as 2018.

Now it's 2025.

7 years and counting .....

At first, I saw Bumrah as a good limited overs bowler and did not think that he will become great in the Test format.

No one did.. with his action especially.

 

[Rajdeep]

Away all venues outside Asia: Top 5 bunched together and then a decent gap.

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Away in all countries: Top 6 bunch together and then a gap starts showing.

View attachment 156025


It's the usual suspects in both,

Bumrah
Marshall
Hadlee
McGrath
Ambrose

These are startling numbers. Hopefully posters here who considers it as taboo to take Bumrah's name with greats from the past will take a note.

 

[RexRex]

Away all venues outside Asia: Top 5 bunched together and then a decent gap.

View attachment 156024


Away in all countries: Top 6 bunch together and then a gap starts showing.

View attachment 156025


It's the usual suspects in both,

Bumrah
Marshall
Hadlee
McGrath
Ambrose

He is the GOAT. Let us cherish him while we still have him.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Bowled long spells
Low economy rate
5 wickets
Shattered the stumps of the key batters of the opposition.


He ticked every single box in the first innings with his bowling.

 

[Sachin fan]

15 5-fers in just 47 matches. That's like a 5-fer every third match. Mind blowing.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1943684036280410377

 

[Ab Fan]

One of the Greatest fast bowler in history of the game.

 

[dravidthewall]

Bumrah is a GOAT. The delivery which he gets root clean bowled was fantastic.

 

[kron]

One of the Greatest fast bowler in history of the game.

1) Marshall
2) mcgrath
3) garner
4) Ambrose
5) bumrah
6) Steyn
7) Rabada
8) cummins
9) hadlee
10) Wasim akram
11) tyson
12) lillee
13) Alan davidson
14) holding
15) trueman


Ranked in order

 

[BouncerGuy]

Bumrah picking wickets is a good sign for India... He picked important ones too...

Genuine top-notch performance in the 1st inning.

 

[Hitman]

One of the Greatest fast bowler in history of the game.

Needs to somehow get to 300 Test wickets. He'll genuinely belong in the league of Marshall, McGrath, and Ambrose after that. I'm speaking of being in their. league, not necessarily better than them.​

 

[Ab Fan]

1) Marshall
2) mcgrath
3) garner
4) Ambrose
5) bumrah
6) Steyn
7) Rabada
8) cummins
9) hadlee
10) Wasim akram
11) tyson
12) lillee
13) Alan davidson
14) holding
15) trueman


Ranked in order

Garner is too high, swap Garner with Hadlee.

 

[Sachin fan]

Needs to somehow get to 300 Test wickets. He'll genuinely belong in the league of Marshall, McGrath, and Ambrose after that. I'm speaking of being in their. league, not necessarily better than them.​

At his current rate of picking wickets, he just needs 15 more matches to reach 300 wickets.

 

[Hitman]

At his current rate of picking wickets, he just needs 15 more matches to reach 300 wickets.

Just like in stock market, past performance is no indicator of future performance in cricket. Kohli looked like he'll be ending with 120 international centuries by the end of 2019. Look where he is now. All we can do is hope for the best with regards to Bumrah.​

 

[Sachin fan]

Just like in stock market, past performance is no indicator of future performance in cricket. Kohli looked like he'll be ending with 120 international centuries by the end of 2019. Look where he is now. All we can do is hope for the best with regards to Bumrah.​

There is a difference between 40 odd tests and just 15

 

[kron]

Needs to somehow get to 300 Test wickets. He'll genuinely belong in the league of Marshall, McGrath, and Ambrose after that. I'm speaking of being in their. league, not necessarily better than them.​

He is already top 5 whether Pakistanis and Bangladeshis like it or not. He is bowling now with no support at his peak

He had shami prime ishant and siraj at his best before

How lone ranger

So yea top 5 already

 

[kron]

My list is literally perfect

Perfection in its finest form.

 

[NishanKonar]

He is already top 5 whether Pakistanis and Bangladeshis like it or not. He is bowling now with no support at his peak

He had shami prime ishant and siraj at his best before

How lone ranger

So yea top 5 already

Needs to reach 300 test wickets to be considered in Top 5

 

[kron]

Needs to reach 300 test wickets to be considered in Top 5

No he doesn’t
Impact is more than enough

 

[Ball Blazer]

Bumrah's Test wickets in each country

 

[NishanKonar]

No he doesn’t
Impact is more than enough

300 test wickets is minimum criteria for ATG status

Else Sid Barnes can be rated as the greatest

 

[kron]

300 test wickets is minimum criteria for ATG status

Else Sid Barnes can be rated as the greatest

impact matters more. a few more years and he is in.

 

[Buffet]

300 test wickets is minimum criteria for ATG status

ATG and top 5 shouldn't have the same criterion.

ATG is anyway subjective and there no no fixed criterion. Bumrah can hang his boots right now, go down as ATG for me without hesitation. I won't rank him as the top 5 right now. If we are talking about 300 wickets at the same rate/impact, he will be top 3 for most fans.

Skill wise similar to Wasim and output similar to Marshall ... Can't ask for more if he gets to 300+ at this rate/impact.

 

[kron]

ATG and top 5 shouldn't have the same criterion.

ATG is anyway subjective and there no no fixed criterion. Bumrah can hang his boots right now, go down as ATG for me without hesitation. I won't rank him as the top 5 right now. If we are talking about 300 wickets at the same rate/impact, he will be top 3 for most fans.

Skill wise similar to Wasim and output similar to Marshall ... Can't ask for more if he gets to 300+ at this rate/impact.

If he gets to 60 65 tests that is plenty enough

 

[BouncerGuy]

First Bumrah should be looking to take his wicket tally above 300 to be called a legend... He is a great bowler no doubt, but cannot call him legend because he is not there yet

 

[Sachin fan]

First Bumrah should be looking to take his wicket tally above 300 to be called a legend... He is a great bowler no doubt, but cannot call him legend because he is not there yet

I remember the goal post on this forum was 200 wickets. Then it became 250. Now it's 300. Pretty sure once he reaches there it will be 350.

And as has been shown multiple times on this forum, Bumrah has already eclipsed many greats in terms of SENA wickets and overseas wickets. Has more than any other pakistani fast bowlers in SENA.

Does taking extra wickets against minnows really matter when talking about being legend? If he had stat padded against minnows with his SENA numbers being same, he would be a legend?

 

[Sachin fan]

300 test wickets is minimum criteria for ATG status

Else Sid Barnes can be rated as the greatest

Yes yes, it was 200 test wickets before then 250 and now 300. You will change it to 350 soon

He has the more wickets in SENA than any pak bowler, no amount of stat padding against minnows to get 300 wickets changes anyone's legend status.

 

[kron]

I remember the goal post on this forum was 200 wickets. Then it became 250. Now it's 300. Pretty sure once he reaches there it will be 350.

And as has been shown multiple times on this forum, Bumrah has already eclipsed many greats in terms of SENA wickets and overseas wickets. Has more than any other pakistani fast bowlers in SENA.

Does taking extra wickets against minnows really matter when talking about being legend? If he had stat padded against minnows with his SENA numbers being same, he would be a legend?

Well poms are already commemorating him as the goat. I have him in top 6 right now. But yes potential to be top 5 or even 3 is there

He needs to help us win a series or draw in England again and also one in either SA or nz.

So 2 more away test series where he needs to do well and ideally help us atleast draw in 2 of those 3 places.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Bumrah is cut from the same cloth as Ian Bishop, Shoaib Akhtar, Shane Bond, Jermaine Lawson, Brett Lee, Dale Steyn, Allan Donald, Waqar Younis, Mitch Starc

Express pacers with high impact

Some of them thanks to them being better overall athletes and by strategically compromising on pace and impact in the later half of their career were able to extend their careers.

Some couldn’t even take 100 wickets

Bumrah’s done incredibly well to take 215+ considering he’s done it in the IPL era and that he’s been strategically deployed in high profile test series and ODI matches on priority.

41 of the total 47 tests Bumrah has played so far have been against SENA

33 of the 41 SENA tests he’s played have been outside India

I doubt any cricketer has ever played this much proportion of high quality test series as a ratio of his entire career

This is the reason why despite at just 215 test wickets he’s already surpassed every Asian bowler ever in SENA nations.

He’s not been stat padding, he’s been dominating in the most high quality cricket contests like nobody has ever done.

 

[Hitman]

I remember the goal post on this forum was 200 wickets. Then it became 250. Now it's 300. Pretty sure once he reaches there it will be 350.

And as has been shown multiple times on this forum, Bumrah has already eclipsed many greats in terms of SENA wickets and overseas wickets. Has more than any other pakistani fast bowlers in SENA.

Does taking extra wickets against minnows really matter when talking about being legend? If he had stat padded against minnows with his SENA numbers being same, he would be a legend?

Even if he reaches 400 Test wickets at an average and strike rate similar to what he does now, the criteria will immediacy change to winning a World Cup. If he achieves that, the criteria will then immediately change to winnings a WTC.

Bottom line, you simply can't deal with inherently insecure people.​

 

[kron]

Bumrah is cut from the same cloth as Ian Bishop, Shoaib Akhtar, Shane Bond, Jermaine Lawson, Brett Lee, Dale Steyn, Allan Donald, Waqar Younis, Mitch Starc

Express pacers with high impact

Some of them thanks to them being better overall athletes and by strategically compromising on pace and impact in the later half of their career were able to extend their careers.

Some couldn’t even take 100 wickets

Bumrah’s done incredibly well to take 215+ considering he’s done it in the IPL era and that he’s been strategically deployed in high profile test series and ODI matches on priority.

41 of the total 47 tests Bumrah has played so far have been against SENA

33 of the 41 SENA tests he’s played have been outside India

I doubt any cricketer has ever played this much proportion of high quality test series as a ratio of his entire career

This is the reason why despite at just 215 test wickets he’s already surpassed every Asian bowler ever in SENA nations.

He’s not been stat padding, he’s been dominating in the most high quality cricket contests like nobody has ever done.

Also he doesn’t get to stat pad vs Zimbabwe and Lanka as he hardly plays them

And he never plays Bangladeshi away from home

Would average 9 vs Bangladesh in Bangladesh.

 

[kron]

Even if he reaches 400 Test wickets at an average and strike rate similar to what he does now, the criteria will immediacy change to winning a World Cup. If he achieves that, the criteria will then immediately change to winnings a WTC.

Bottom line, you simply can't deal with inherently insecure people.​

Another thing I wanted to mention. In pp it may not be accepted but shami is a better bowler than shoaib and Waqar in tests

 

[BouncerGuy]

THREAD IS ABOUT BUMRAH

 

[Ab Fan]

Some Indian fans are being overly sensitive on Bumrah.

Yes, he has done enough to go down as ATG but I don’t think you can call him better than Wasim Akram or among top 5 fast bowlers of all time this early.

 

[BouncerGuy]

He might be the best bowler but his batting record has been the worst.

Six ducks in his last seven Test innings for Jasprit Bumrah.

Not gonna call him DUCKRAH like people used to call Afridi DUCKRIDI..

 

[Ab Fan]

Bumrah is cut from the same cloth as Ian Bishop, Shoaib Akhtar, Shane Bond, Jermaine Lawson, Brett Lee, Dale Steyn, Allan Donald, Waqar Younis, Mitch Starc

Express pacers with high impact

Some of them thanks to them being better overall athletes and by strategically compromising on pace and impact in the later half of their career were able to extend their careers.

Allan Donald was not injury prone until he turned 35+. Starc isn’t either.