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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Let's give credit to Mohsin Naqvi for transforming our cricket stadiums

But this apparently is a state of the arts stadium because it has a roof :ROFLMAO:

The new stadium will have a roof as well, but I don’t understand why people are so concerned about the Kebab Stadium when no international matches will be held there due to security reasons.

I'm excited about the new stadium being built in Islamabad. I just saw a video of Naqvi saying it will be completed within a year, along with further upgrades to the Lahore and Karachi stadiums.
 
I dont get why our Pakistani awaam are so satisfied by seeing their own money spent on them.
 
The new stadium will have a roof as well, but I don’t understand why people are so concerned about the Kebab Stadium when no international matches will be held there due to security reasons.

I'm excited about the new stadium being built in Islamabad. I just saw a video of Naqvi saying it will be completed within a year, along with further upgrades to the Lahore and Karachi stadiums.
Why do you guys worry about what we think. You can boot Polish to your hearts content. You have a World class stadium without a roof🤣🤣🤣
 
The new stadium will have a roof as well, but I don’t understand why people are so concerned about the Kebab Stadium when no international matches will be held there due to security reasons.

I'm excited about the new stadium being built in Islamabad. I just saw a video of Naqvi saying it will be completed within a year, along with further upgrades to the Lahore and Karachi stadiums.
Islamabad Stadium i dont think is possible.

It doesnt come under punjab, it comes under federal, so CDA would never give land for it as CDA wants to sell such lands at premium price to plaza and mall owners.

Even if the stadium gets built, CDA is known for not being able to take care of its assets. Unless PCB makes their own stadium in Islamabad, under CDA its going to be a long term disastor.
 
I don't want to get political but I have to state the blatantly obvious. The PML-N Government has spent a lot of money on Infrastructure projects in the past (Motorways etc) and during the election campaign continued to promise XYZ (Airports at weird locations etc) but there is no transparency or Accountability as to how contracts are awarded and where the money goes.

The economy of Pakistan is in doldrums and Cricket is the only thing which can generate money so not surprised at construction which is few years too late because the Tournament was awarded to Pakistan years ago and there should not have been a massive rush to complete these stadia within weeks.

PCB should be privatized and all its accounts and activities should be transparent and public including all Accounts related to PSL.​
 
Islamabad Stadium i dont think is possible.

It doesnt come under punjab, it comes under federal, so CDA would never give land for it as CDA wants to sell such lands at premium price to plaza and mall owners.

Even if the stadium gets built, CDA is known for not being able to take care of its assets. Unless PCB makes their own stadium in Islamabad, under CDA its going to be a long term disastor.
Not sure what's going on with it but I've seen various clips of mohsin naqvi saying about building one in Islamabad within a a year
 
Not sure what's going on with it but I've seen various clips of mohsin naqvi saying about building one in Islamabad within a a year
Naqvi will make statements, but Islamabad is complicated.

Most expensive land in Pakistan is in Islamabad, so CDA, the owner of most of the land, wants to ration the land to highest bidder. The highest bidder are always the people that build shopping plazas. THis is why PCB will eventually settle for Rawalpindi, or ask DHA to build a Stadium and consider it a part of Islamabad or might go to Malik Riaz for a stadium.
 
I don't want to get political but I have to state the blatantly obvious. The PML-N Government has spent a lot of money on Infrastructure projects in the past (Motorways etc) and during the election campaign continued to promise XYZ (Airports at weird locations etc) but there is no transparency or Accountability as to how contracts are awarded and where the money goes.

The economy of Pakistan is in doldrums and Cricket is the only thing which can generate money so not surprised at construction which is few years too late because the Tournament was awarded to Pakistan years ago and there should not have been a massive rush to complete these stadia within weeks.

PCB should be privatized and all its accounts and activities should be transparent and public including all Accounts related to PSL.​
Why should PCB be privitizied? PCB is the only govt institute that makes money. If PCB was privitized than SIndh will lose the most as PCB than will keep commericial interest ahead.
 
Naqvi will make statements, but Islamabad is complicated.

Most expensive land in Pakistan is in Islamabad, so CDA, the owner of most of the land, wants to ration the land to highest bidder. The highest bidder are always the people that build shopping plazas. THis is why PCB will eventually settle for Rawalpindi, or ask DHA to build a Stadium and consider it a part of Islamabad or might go to Malik Riaz for a stadium.
Some more information here article from beginning of this month

 
Why should PCB be privitizied? PCB is the only govt institute that makes money. If PCB was privitized than SIndh will lose the most as PCB than will keep commericial interest ahead.
No to a large extent because allocating money according to Commercial revenue generation capability is the name of the game but we will get transparency and public Accountability. Sindh has Karachi so I don't believe that they will lose out much compared to smaller districts like lets say Faisalabad.

Durham county generates far less than lets say Surrey but has Cricket died in Durham?
 
View from Pakistan versus view from Outside Pakistan
No. It's a renovation without a roof. And Naqvi the murderous thugs triggers me like epileptic gets triggered by flashing lights. If we can't point out a basic fact about this corrupt and murderous thug then we have betrayed the memory of the murdered. I am not giving an inch on this thug and will not give him any credit.


BTW
Even these boot polishers don't pretend that he hasn't murdered these people. Let that sink in
You have nothing to be ashamed of.

There are views from inside Pakistan and of those outside Pakistan. 2 days ago on Sawera Pasha show there were plenty of (Indians) mocking this hysteria about the stadium and their answer was:​
  1. You can actually see the faces of the batters under the Helmet​
  2. Compare to rest of Pakistan, this stadium is a miracle​
You can listen to it on YouTube.

The country is so far gone and messed up that despite knowing about this tournament for years nothing was done and nobody knows about the contract assignment, money allocation etc

But people are celebrating a person who should be concentrating on deteriorating security conditions and crackdown on civil liberties etc because "people" can see faces underneath a Helmet...

As previously said that we shouldn't talk politics in this thread but unfortunately does come into this.​
 
View from Pakistan versus view from Outside Pakistan

You have nothing to be ashamed of.

There are views from inside Pakistan and of those outside Pakistan. 2 days ago on Sawera Pasha show there were plenty of (Indians) mocking this hysteria about the stadium and their answer was:​
  1. You can actually see the faces of the batters under the Helmet​
  2. Compare to rest of Pakistan, this stadium is a miracle​
You can listen to it on YouTube.

The country is so far gone and messed up that despite knowing about this tournament for years nothing was done and nobody knows about the contract assignment, money allocation etc

But people are celebrating a person who should be concentrating on deteriorating security conditions and crackdown on civil liberties etc because "people" can see faces underneath a Helmet...

As previously said that we shouldn't talk politics in this thread but unfortunately does come into this.​
@emranabbas another one of those agenda posters we talked about.

Now watch him unveil himself with recurring patterns.
 
Bro i have been following these, but i still doubt CDA will do anything.

They did this in the past and i think it was the supreme court that stopped them from making a stadium in Shakaparian.

I hope i am wrong though

Trust me it's been decided. This will be a 50k+ stadium and built to SENA standards.
 
I understand that the renovations in Karachi aren't fully complete yet, but so far, the upgrades have been quite disappointing. The improvements don't seem to match the expectations or the standard set in lahore

Naqvi needs to shift his focus to Karachi and invest the same level of effort and attention that he dedicated to upgrading Gaddafi Stadium.

Without proper oversight and commitment, Karachi's renovation risks falling short of what it truly deserves, Naqvi should spend some time I karachi
 
Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Mohsin Naqvi congratulated the Pakistani team on winning the ODI match against South Africa.

"Pakistani players performed exceptionally well and achieved a difficult target,"

"By winning the match and qualifying for the final, the Pakistani team has brought joy to the nation,"

"Well done and congratulations to Mohammad Rizwan and Salman Agha for their outstanding batting,"

"Captain Mohammad Rizwan truly played a captain's innings,"

"Vice-captain Salman Agha also batted brilliantly,"

"Pakistani players demonstrated teamwork and secured the victory,"

"I hope that the Pakistani team will win the tri-series final as well,"
 
Venues’ upgrade cost increase forces PCB to seek overdraft

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has decided to take an overdraft of Rs3 to 6 billion for the current fiscal year after the estimated budget for the reconstruction of three major international venues of the country was raised by Rs5 billion, the minutes of the Board of Governors (BoG) meeting held in December last year reveal.

The PCB in recent months carried out major renovation of the Gaddafi Stadium (Lahore), National Bank Stadium (Karachi) and the Rawalpindi Cricket Stadium (Rawalpindi) for the eight-nation ICC Champions Trophy starting on Feb 19.

“The CFO [Chief Operating Officer] brought to the attention of the BoG members that as per the revised estimate provided by the PCB Director Infrastructure, the estimated budgetary requirement for the three stadia upgradation projects has increased by Rs5 billion i.e. Rs13 billion vs Rs18 billion,” read the minutes of the BoG meeting, a copy of which is available with Dawn.

“In order to fund this additional requirement, the management has taken proactive measures by reducing overall operational expense budget for fiscal year 2024-25 by Rs3 billion. Additionally, most of the other capital expenditures for this fiscal year have been either cancelled or postponed. All future budgeted operational and capital expenditure are being closely monitored to ensure judicious spending. However, based on overall estimated results, there might be a periodic shortfall of approx. Rs 3 billion to Rs 6 billion during the current fiscal year.

“He (CFO) further added that considering the anticipated overall future cash flow requirements, there is a strong possibility that the PCB will require period external cash flow support for the foreseeable future. Consequently, the management has agreed in principle to secure external cash overdraft facilities in the amount of Rs3 billion to Rs6 billion to support any unexpected additional funding requirements. The management is in negotiations with different governmental and private banks to secure the best possible arrangements.

“The BoG unanimously endorsed the increase in the stadium upgrade budget by Rs5 billion. Moreover, the BoG endorsed the CFO’s proposal to secure external cash flow overdraft facilities up to Rs 6 billion to meet possible periodic funding shortfall, if any,” the documents further said.

Meanwhile, sources said that the PCB will struggle to again raise its financial resources as in 2023 it had the reserves of Rs26 billion. And after selling out the broadcast rights and others for the next three years (2024-26) for a meagre amount of Rs1.70 billion, which was far less than its reserve price of around Rs3 billion plus, there are two widows left for it to raise funds in the latter part of this year.

One of them is to sell the six franchise teams of the PSL later this year as the first phase of ten years of the current six teams will complete after the end of the 10th edition in April this year.

Secondly, the PCB must expect revenue from the ICC, specially from the Champions Trophy.

The PCB had already signed an agreement with the ICC to give it a specific (undisclosed) amount against the revenue to be generated through gate money of the Champions Trophy matches.

But as the Indian team will not play any of their matches on Pakistan soil as they will remain in Dubai for the entire tournament, the main source of ticket sale was received from the three sold out matches of India vs Pakistan, India vs Bangladesh and India vs New Zealand.

PCB chairman Mohsin Naqvi in a talk with media had disclosed that the revenue of all the Champions Trophy matches being staged in Dubai would also be added when the ICC would decide the specific amount for the PCB.

 
Pakistan hopeful Champions Trophy will bring more big events

Pakistan will host a first major multi-country cricket tournament in nearly three decades next week and its cricket chief is hopeful that a successful Champions Trophy will bring a flood of other such events.

Top teams shunned Pakistan after the 2009 attack on a bus carrying Sri Lankan cricketers in Lahore, forcing them to relocate home matches, mostly to the United Arab Emirates.

It took the Pakistan Cricket Board years to convince foreign counterparts that it was safe to visit. Touring sides began returning after the board successfully staged its own T20 league, with several foreign players, on home soil in 2017.

"The ICC (International Cricket Council) Champions Trophy 2025 is a culmination of those efforts," PCB chairman Mohsin Naqvi told Reuters.

"Our successful hosting of this event will further enhance Pakistan's credentials, positioning us as a strong contender for more ICC events in the next events cycle."

Pakistan staged the 1996 World Cup after winning the previous edition of cricket's marquee event but the country's fortunes crumbled with the rise of militancy following war in neighbouring Afghanistan.

"Security has long ceased to be a concern for visiting teams as we have consistently demonstrated our ability to provide a safe, secure and well-managed environment for international cricket," said Naqvi, who also doubles as the country's internal security chief.

"Once we successfully staged home international series and consistently delivered PSL (Pakistan Super League) editions at world-class standards, the ICC accepted and recognised Pakistan's readiness to host a global event," he said.

"Since 2019, all major Test-playing nations - except India - have toured Pakistan, some multiple times."
Naqvi said multiple visits by England and New Zealand and the growing number of international players in the PSL were an endorsement. "As a result, they are already familiar with Pakistan’s world-class playing conditions, operational efficiency and robust security measures."

But he acknowledged that staging a multi-team event was tougher than hosting a single team.

"The ICC Champions Trophy 2025 has been a monumental task, requiring extensive preparations in a limited timeframe. Our stadiums last underwent significant renovations for the 1996 World Cup, and since then, the global cricketing landscape has evolved tremendously."

The PCB has upgraded two main grounds in Karachi and Lahore for the event in an 11th-hour facelift.


 
Former Pakistan cricketer Wasim Bari applauded PCB for stadiums renovation:

"It was the worst day in my life when news came through of what had happened. Everyone was numb and most of us in our offices realised immediately this was going to put Pakistan cricket back by a few years,"

"To see England, Australian, South African, New Zealand and Afghanistan teams in Karachi and Lahore means so much to all Pakistani cricketers, board officials and the fans. I think it is also a time to pay tribute to the resilience of Pakistan cricket while hosting the Champions Trophy, after all that has happened in the last 10 years,"
 
Who should be given credit to disastrous team selection and destroying Pakistan cricket. Naqvi has been one of the worst thing happened to Pakistan cricket in recent times. Loss to USA, white wash to BD and SA, loss to WI, what else Naqvi can be given credit for.
 
Completed large infrastructure projects very rapidly. Effective and no nonsense. Hands down the best administrator in Pakistan.

Stadium renovation, building a stand here and there is NOT a large infra project. It's what a local thekedaar gets done.
 
Naqvi worked well on the renovation of these stadiums. He deserves the praise for that.

Only problem is the management issues within PCB. Captains, coaches stuff needs to be sorted out.
 
Naqvi worked well on the renovation of these stadiums. He deserves the praise for that.

Only problem is the management issues within PCB. Captains, coaches stuff needs to be sorted out.
You mean the actual issues which he's failed at
 
But some pakistani people think the stadiums are going to collapse and become rubble during one of the games in the Champions Trophy
Hopefully stadium will stay intact but Pakistan cricket will collapse under Naqvi.
 
While speaking on a TV show, Wasim Akram praised the revamp of Gaddafi Stadium:

"Absolutely fantastic! What a historic place this is for cricket in Pakistan, with so many memories and so much history at Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore. And it's looking really, really nice. It's fantastic how quickly this upgradation was done—very, very impressive. Congratulations to everyone involved. This couldn't have happened without great effort. Everyone will look stunning. That grill is gone, and now there’s a trench for security reasons. Additionally, this trench will also help with drainage, especially during rain, ensuring water flows out properly."
 
Maybe due to great weather but it felt like the match was being played in Europe during some drone shots. What a transformation. Gaddafi stadium and its surroundings are beautiful bro. It’s now one of the very best in our region. Well done Mohsin bhai and all the workers who did 24/7 work on this stadium.

Best part is that after the tournament they will do more work on this
 
Maybe due to great weather but it felt like the match was being played in Europe during some drone shots. What a transformation. Gaddafi stadium and its surroundings are beautiful bro. It’s now one of the very best in our region. Well done Mohsin bhai and all the workers who did 24/7 work on this stadium.

Best part is that after the tournament they will do more work on this
@Bhaijaan you are a honorary lahori for having such a big heart. There is no place in this world like Lahore. Im so privileged to spend a good part of my life in that beautiful city.
 
What was more important.....???

Building the stadiums?

or

building the team?


Mohsin Naqvi ... totally destroyed the team!

I don't know why you are acting a like a sore loser in this whole episode of building stadiums, if Naqvi remove all the dead wood like babar rizwan shaheen rauf naseem you would be the first one sulking
 
@Bhaijaan you are a honorary lahori for having such a big heart. There is no place in this world like Lahore. Im so privileged to spend a good part of my life in that beautiful city.

Lahore lives in the heart of every Punjabi bro. If we were still one country, Lahore would be a major power centre on this planet. Sad we in Bharat got separated from our major Punjabi city. So much history. Absolutely love the Lahoris. Too much vibe bro.
 
Islamabad should get a state of the art stadium and Karachi’s should be demolished and built ground up. Rawalpindi ground looks fantastic too.

Multan needs a trench and facelift as well.

Karachi’s ground gives a prison vibe.
 
Lahore lives in the heart of every Punjabi bro. If we were still one country, Lahore would be a major power centre on this planet. Sad we in Bharat got separated from our major Punjabi city. So much history. Absolutely love the Lahoris. Too much vibe bro.
Apply for pilgrim visa they'll roll out red carpet. Lahore's a dump btw.

All foreigners rate Peshawar highest and it's isolated
 
Islamabad should get a state of the art stadium and Karachi’s should be demolished and built ground up. Rawalpindi ground looks fantastic too.

Multan needs a trench and facelift as well.

Karachi’s ground gives a prison vibe.

There’s a 50,000 capacity stadium being built in Bahria Town, Karachi.

The national bank stadium should be left the way it is, and should only host test matches.

Once the Rafi stadium is built, PCB should host all LOI games there.
 
There’s a 50,000 capacity stadium being built in Bahria Town, Karachi.

The national bank stadium should be left the way it is, and should only host test matches.

Once the Rafi stadium is built, PCB should host all LOI games there.
The roof needs to removed thats it
 
What was more important.....???

Building the stadiums?

or

building the team?


Mohsin Naqvi ... totally destroyed the team!
Impossible to build the team as no longer talent in Pakistan. Building a stadium is more possible
 
Apply for pilgrim visa they'll roll out red carpet. Lahore's a dump btw.

All foreigners rate Peshawar highest and it's isolated
If i was a mod, i would ban you for making such a rubbish post. I could feel my brain cells getting shot while reading your post. Negative IQ stuff.
 
If i was a mod, i would ban you for making such a rubbish post. I could feel my brain cells getting shot while reading your post. Negative IQ stuff.
Care to expand?


Lahore is associated with vice and corruption

They can happily ban me. This place censored to death yet Indian trolls thrive. Mysterious
 
There’s a 50,000 capacity stadium being built in Bahria Town, Karachi.

The national bank stadium should be left the way it is, and should only host test matches.

Once the Rafi stadium is built, PCB should host all LOI games there.

Rafi stadium is nowhere near 50k, I don't think it will be 25k. It won't even be built. Its been years now.

All foreigners rate Peshawar highest and it's isolated

Sorry to burst your bubble, it looks like downtown Kabul and its not safe at all. Lahore needs work too.
 
There’s a 50,000 capacity stadium being built in Bahria Town, Karachi.

The national bank stadium should be left the way it is, and should only host test matches.

Once the Rafi stadium is built, PCB should host all LOI games there.
It'll be the end of the century when this Rafi gets built. Its not under construction anymore especially since Malik RIaz's ongoing troubles with the establishment
 
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@Bhaijaan you are a honorary lahori for having such a big heart. There is no place in this world like Lahore. Im so privileged to spend a good part of my life in that beautiful city.

People of Lahore are mostly miserable and unhelpful. Much prefer Pindi/ Islamabad.
 
Pakistan Team's win/loss record during the tenure of last 5 chairmen PCB.

Simply see how Ramiz Raja's tenure Win/Loss ratio is miles ahead of the next four Chairmen planted by corrupt regimes.

By the way, Ramiz Raja focused on build the team - not the structures. No fan is going to show up in those new stadiums .... if the team will keep losing.


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There’s a 50,000 capacity stadium being built in Bahria Town, Karachi.

The national bank stadium should be left the way it is, and should only host test matches.

Once the Rafi stadium is built, PCB should host all LOI games there.
Lmao this stadium is not being built
 
Yeah the team was winning icc trophies left right and center before that. Amazing post!
Look at my post above...

A Win/Loss ratio (1.894) under Ramiz Raja .... come down to 0.826 under Naqvi.

Ramiz Raja: 36 wins, 19 losses. (Amazing Record)
After Imran Khan: 40 wins, 46 losses.
 
Let's give credit to Naqvi

1. Building stadiums with great facilities for VIPS
2. Unlimited spending

I look forward to spending audits in the future.
 
This is how they are drying the field. Where is the equipment?

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This is how they are drying the field. Where is the equipment?

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The GSL renovation was cosmetic & not structural & this is why you are seeing the many small puddles & ground staff using foam to soak water up. The drainage system of the playing field remains untouched & hence water puddles will be seen here but hopefully the entire Nishtar complex won't flood as underground water tank will store that water.

A bit more rain & we may be able to reach 50% of the storage capacity of the underground water storage tank.
 
What remarkable work done by Naqvi. Blessed to have a chairman like him.

On a serious note, this has been the hallmark of pmln leadership. They are masters of deception and peacocking. Every infrastructure project under them falls apart by the slightest of durability test. The stadium renovation work was just to fool the public and to make the minions feel good when in reality this project was as hollow and useless as countless other projects where the public funds were wasted.
 
Rain is deciding factor in teams reaching semifinals..Though best available are reaching in sf but this is not good..
 
South Asian infrastructure (and South Asia as a whole) will continue to remain stuck in the third world for the rest of our lifetimes.
 
Half an hour of rain and the ground can't have any further play That too in an ICC event...well done Pakistan...you always surprise us

:kp
 
Pakistan Team's win/loss record during the tenure of last 5 chairmen PCB.

Simply see how Ramiz Raja's tenure Win/Loss ratio is miles ahead of the next four Chairmen planted by corrupt regimes.

By the way, Ramiz Raja focused on build the team - not the structures. No fan is going to show up in those new stadiums .... if the team will keep losing.


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But but but Ramiz is jahil gawaar and outdated in modern era , @Rana @emranabbas some soul searching required
 
Half an hour of rain and the ground can't have any further play That too in an ICC event...well done Pakistan...you always surprise us

:kp
Okay we get the point. How many times are you going to repeat the same thing in multiple threads?

As an aside, it's funny to see Indians talk crap when their own country is a contender for the worst infrastructure among all 3rd world nations. It's like pot calling kettle black.
 
Okay we get the point. How many times are you going to repeat the same thing in multiple threads?

As an aside, it's funny to see Indians talk crap when their own country is a contender for the worst infrastructure among all 3rd world nations. It's like pot calling kettle black.
Touchy, go and checked, i was the first one to open a thread to Criticized BCCI .

:kp
 
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Touchy, go and checked, i was the first one to open a thread to Criticized BCCI .

:kp
Not touchy, we are not happy with the situation and we don't appreciate PCB and people running the show. Mohsin Naqvi is a fine example of nepotism, corruption and negligence. Only people with low IQ think PCB is in good hands.

We know this already. You repeating the same thing over and over isn't informing us but mocking us which is the last thing you should be doing being from a country with similar issues.
 
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But but but Ramiz is jahil gawaar and outdated in modern era , @Rana @emranabbas some soul searching required
Most of the wins were against weak sides or depleted sides. Under Ramiz, Pak started losing tests at home due to him producing flat wickets. This is how he "built the team". You guys can easily be manipulated by some random data.
 
But but but Ramiz is jahil gawaar and outdated in modern era , @Rana @emranabbas some soul searching required

Ramiz Raja knew very well that he was going to be accountable to Imran Khan for his performance as PCB Chairman. That is was the biggest difference between RR and any other politically appointed Chairman - as reward for their favors to their political party. Najam Sethi, Zaka Ashraf and Mohsin Naqvi are the prime examples!
 
Pakistan Team's win/loss record during the tenure of last 5 chairmen PCB.

Simply see how Ramiz Raja's tenure Win/Loss ratio is miles ahead of the next four Chairmen planted by corrupt regimes.

By the way, Ramiz Raja focused on build the team - not the structures. No fan is going to show up in those new stadiums .... if the team will keep losing.


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The colourful charts you're showing are honestly laughable. Out of those 8 wins, 3 were against the Netherlands and another 3 were against West Indies. Have you even bothered to check the scorecards? Take a look at the C-string bowling line-up of Australia.

Even in T20s, beating teams like Namibia, Hong Kong, Scotland, Bangladesh, West Indies, Afghanistan isn't some massive achievement. Out of 25 wins, 17 were against minnows. Only twice was India beaten, thrice New Zealand, once South Africa, and thrice England.

And let's not forget, you've conveniently left out Tests because it doesn't support your narrative only 3 Tests were won out of 10, and those were against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

your colourful charts can only fool people like @Kianig89
 
Most of the wins were against weak sides or depleted sides. Under Ramiz, Pak started losing tests at home due to him producing flat wickets. This is how he "built the team". You guys can easily be manipulated by some random data.
Ramiz Raja was sacked on December 22, 2022.

Since then, this is Pakistan's T20I & ODI record against strong and week teams.
Please let me know which part of this data is manipulated!

Pakistan has losing record against ALL major teams. Overall 5 wins and 16 losses. All 5 wins vs NZ.
Pakistan has losing record vs three minnows (USA, Afghanistan & Bangladesh) in T20Is.
So, if RR's team won against weak teams.... then after RR, Pak could not even win against those weak team.


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In ODIs, Pak has winning record against only ONE major team - South Africa. Mostly weakened/depleted side.
By the way, please do note that Pakistan has a sterling 6-1 record against minnows.

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Ramiz Raja was sacked on December 22, 2022.

Since then, this is Pakistan's T20I & ODI record against strong and week teams.
Please let me know which part of this data is manipulated!

Pakistan has losing record against ALL major teams. Overall 5 wins and 16 losses. All 5 wins vs NZ.
Pakistan has losing record vs three minnows (USA, Afghanistan & Bangladesh) in T20Is.
So, if RR's team won against weak teams.... then after RR, Pak could not even win against those weak team.


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In ODIs, Pak has winning record against only ONE major team - South Africa. Mostly weakened/depleted side.
By the way, please do note that Pakistan has a sterling 6-1 record against minnows.

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this is called manipulating when @RyanRyan10 is asking you to elaborate on the wins under Ramiz but your posting charts of post ramiz win and losses, you wouldn't dare making a chart for play under ramiz as that will expose ramiz as under ramiz most of the wins were vs minnows or c string sides
 
this is called manipulating when @RyanRyan10 is asking you to elaborate on the wins under Ramiz but your posting charts of post ramiz win and losses, you wouldn't dare making a chart for play under ramiz as that will expose ramiz as under ramiz most of the wins were vs minnows or c string sides
But under Mohsin, Pakistan lost against those minnow teams also. Should that be ignored??? Pakistan has a pathetic record since Naqvi's appointment.
 
this is called manipulating when @RyanRyan10 is asking you to elaborate on the wins under Ramiz but your posting charts of post ramiz win and losses, you wouldn't dare making a chart for play under ramiz as that will expose ramiz as under ramiz most of the wins were vs minnows or c string sides
I was reply to Ryan10's following comment...that if he thought under RR Pak team only won against weak team... then after him we LOST with weak teams including USA and Zimbabwe.
 
this is called manipulating when @RyanRyan10 is asking you to elaborate on the wins under Ramiz but your posting charts of post ramiz win and losses, you wouldn't dare making a chart for play under ramiz as that will expose ramiz as under ramiz most of the wins were vs minnows or c string sides

Here you go.... this is ODI record...
I will post T20I record tomorrow.

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Ramiz Raja was sacked on December 22, 2022.

Since then, this is Pakistan's T20I & ODI record against strong and week teams.
Please let me know which part of this data is manipulated!

Pakistan has losing record against ALL major teams. Overall 5 wins and 16 losses. All 5 wins vs NZ.
Pakistan has losing record vs three minnows (USA, Afghanistan & Bangladesh) in T20Is.
So, if RR's team won against weak teams.... then after RR, Pak could not even win against those weak team.


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In ODIs, Pak has winning record against only ONE major team - South Africa. Mostly weakened/depleted side.
By the way, please do note that Pakistan has a sterling 6-1 record against minnows.

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I would like to know the specific details of the victories that were achieved during Ramiz Raja’s tenure as the chairman of the PCB, as well as the positive steps he took which "built the team", as you were claiming. From what I recall, Ramiz Raja was cheerleading Babar Azam & co, which led to the negative consequences that followed. Furthermore, Ramiz was responsible for the introduction of flat pitches in test cricket, which has negatively impacted Pakistan's performance in the format.

If attributing Pakistan's better W/L ratio to Ramiz’s tenure simply because he was in power, then we should extend the same logic to credit Nawaz Sharif for Pakistan’s two ICC trophy wins while he was the Prime Minister, or the administration that governed during that time.
Here you go.... this is ODI record...
I will post T20I record tomorrow.

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The Aus series win at home during Ramiz's tenure came against a depleted side. The away series win during Naqvi's tenure is more impressive, though I am not sure if we can credit Naqvi for that result.
 
But under Mohsin, Pakistan lost against those minnow teams also. Should that be ignored??? Pakistan has a pathetic record since Naqvi's appointment.
Tell me when we lost vs Namibia, Hong Kong, Scotland, Bangladesh, West Indies, Afghanistan in odi under mohsin? Infact We beat Australia and South Africa away under mohsin.
 
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