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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Mohammad Rizwan, other sportspersons and celebrities express their anguish for what is happening in Gaza

Israel targeting Hamas and Hamas targeting Israeli citizens. I hope you see the difference.

I condemn IDF if they are targeting innocent Palestinian citizens. I hope you do the same in condemning Hamas. Waiting for your reply.
If they are targeting, y'all must live under the rock, are certain websites banned in India? I mean I get Indian media is biased and censored but does the internet get censored too?

Again, read my replies on this thread, please because every time you demand for condemnation, I laughed first now I fell sorry, not for myself :)
 
I have already elaborated on the hypocrisy. Please read my above posts re humanitarian cause vs religious cause.

They are self-explanatory.
LOL,

Every muslim will have stronger bond to Al-aqsa, which one do you want us to drop, being muslim or being human. lol

Such a far fetch and lopsided argument against it, 99K posts, how did you survive?
 
It’s not like the Indian posters had any credibility to begin with on this topic but they lost whatever little they had when they claimed rizwan should have waited to tweet his support of Palestinians till Israel killed innocent Palestinians … 1400 innocent civilian deaths seemed to have evaded them by the way. Loss of Palestinian children lives don’t mean much to them I suppose.
 
It’s not like the Indian posters had any credibility to begin with on this topic but they lost whatever little they had when they claimed rizwan should have waited to tweet his support of Palestinians till Israel killed innocent Palestinians … 1400 innocent civilian deaths seemed to have evaded them by the way. Loss of Palestinian children lives don’t mean much to them I suppose.
Just like how Rizwan never tweeted for Israeli innocent civilians to stay strong.
 
And just to give you guys historical perspective


Since 2008 the ratio of Palestinian vs Israeli fatalities over 6000:<400
 
Israel targeting Hamas and Hamas targeting Israeli citizens. I hope you see the difference.

I condemn IDF if they are targeting innocent Palestinian citizens. I hope you do the same in condemning Hamas. Waiting for your reply.

Israel is carpet bombing Gaza. Innocents are dying. Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza.

Get your facts right.
 
Egypt has warned Israel about the attack but they chose to do nothing. Netanyahu and his Zionist cockroaches probably wanted this tragedy to happen.

May God punish these evil cockroaches with His divine punishments.
Israel were losing the sympathetic vote for a few years in the West, in particular Putin, and along come this news, and all of a sudden Israel have 900M sympathizers from India.
 
I can and will comment on the hypocrisy and dishonesty of some people. However, I don't lose any sleep over what happens in the region. I don't identify with either Palestine and Israel so I have no motivation to pick sisides.
You're the one making a mountain out of a molehill. There is no hypocrisy/ dishonesty if muslims were supporting the Palestinian cause for religious reasons or humanitarian reasons or both.

Who/ what they support is their choice to make and they don't have to justify it to anyone especially, to the likes of you (those who "don't lose any sleep" over this particular issue).

If it doesn't concern you at all then don't let it bother you even a little bit.
 
Indians will be wearing them to show their solidarity with Israel and Pakistanis will be wearing them to show their solidarity with the Palestinians.
Ok now tell Me where is humanity as what Pakistan fan's are care about ? As @Mamoon Rightly said it's religious sentiments rather than humanitarian .if this was humanitarian then you have not said about certain community instead let's both team wear Black arm to support solidarity with innocent people's of both side who lost their life .
 
It applies to everyone. There are no humanitarian causes in this world. It is all about agendas and who you identify with, but people generally start foaming from their mouths when you tell them that they support Palestinian cause because of religion. What is wrong with it though? Nothing, so I don't understand why they feel embarrassed about it and keep playing the "humanitarian" card.

It applies to everyone but you aren't capable of being neutral, you yourself said it was a religious issue, in that case it applies to your hindutva friends when they support Israel as well, but your criticism is always one sided. You aren't neutral so don't pretend to be.
 
Non Muslims supporting Gaza - No Problem

Muslims supporting Gaza - Problem.

The only problem here is Rizwan scored 131* and his haters need an excuse to vent their tears.
 
Non Muslims supporting Gaza - No Problem

Muslims supporting Gaza - Problem.

The only problem here is Rizwan scored 131* and his haters need an excuse to vent their tears.
I think it’s a more a problem to them because he tweeted while playing in tournament they are hosting so somehow these idiots think he owes it to them to tow the line of their despotic anti Muslim government.
 
Rizwan is the in the middle of a world cup, his mind and body should stay there. He is getting paid for it, by the way, that's his job. Save politics and global issues for another time.

Moreover, I would urge all Pakistanis to first have the courage of speaking about atrocities within our homeland before taking on the Palestinian cause.
 
Rizwan is the in the middle of a world cup, his mind and body should stay there. He is getting paid for it, by the way, that's his job. Save politics and global issues for another time.

Moreover, I would urge all Pakistanis to first have the courage of speaking about atrocities within our homeland before taking on the Palestinian cause.

Let PCB and/or ICC be the one(s) to decide if Rizwan broke any cricketing rules, outside of that he's free to post whatever he wants..dedication and all.
 
Rizwan is the in the middle of a world cup, his mind and body should stay there. He is getting paid for it, by the way, that's his job. Save politics and global issues for another time.

Moreover, I would urge all Pakistanis to first have the courage of speaking about atrocities within our homeland before taking on the Palestinian cause.
Unless you are his employer, nobody has any right to tell him anything. Speaking against atrocities wherever should be the goal. That Should not be qualified in any manner whatsoever.
 
Is it against the law to speak about the people of Gaza in India?
When you live under under slavery, you dare not speak against or opine against your master - especially when the master is found responsible of killing Muslims and banned consequently.
 
You're the one making a mountain out of a molehill. There is no hypocrisy/ dishonesty if muslims were supporting the Palestinian cause for religious reasons or humanitarian reasons or both.

Who/ what they support is their choice to make and they don't have to justify it to anyone especially, to the likes of you (those who "don't lose any sleep" over this particular issue).

If it doesn't concern you at all then don't let it bother you even a little bit.
LOL,

Every muslim will have stronger bond to Al-aqsa, which one do you want us to drop, being muslim or being human. lol

Such a far fetch and lopsided argument against it, 99K posts, how did you survive?
When Muslims see non-Muslim NOT support the Palestinian cause, they throw fits because they feel everyone is obliged to support Palestine because it is a humanitarian issue but funnily enough, they themselves support the Palestinian cause due to religious reasons.

Don’t expect others to view things from a humanitarian lens when you yourself view everything from a religious lens.

Palestine issue is a humanitarian crisis ONLY for those people who are (a) non-Muslims and (b) not anti-Semitic.

Muslims, Pakistani or not, can support Palestine as much as they want but please don’t bother playing the faux humanitarian card.
 
When you live under under slavery, you dare not speak against or opine against your master - especially when the master is found responsible of killing Muslims and banned consequently.
Regardless, I'd be interested to see the law to which Joshilla seems to be alluding.
 
Orthodox Jews support the plight of Palestinians.

No one dare on here criticise Rizwan would criticise Orthodox Jews, and if they do, they are supporters of Zionism.

What a conundrum they are in.
 
When Muslims see non-Muslim NOT support the Palestinian cause, they throw fits because they feel everyone is obliged to support Palestine because it is a humanitarian issue but funnily enough, they themselves support the Palestinian cause due to religious reasons.

Don’t expect others to view things from a humanitarian lens when you yourself view everything from a religious lens.

Palestine issue is a humanitarian crisis ONLY for those people who are (a) non-Muslims and (b) not anti-Semitic.

Muslims, Pakistani or not, can support Palestine as much as they want but please don’t bother playing the faux humanitarian card.
Again, YOU are making a mountain out of a molehill..you're creating a controversy when there's none.

And again, people can support whatever cause(s) they want for whatever reason(s).

You should be the last person calling others out because remember, you are not interested in this particular issue..yeah?
 
According to who?

He is not speaking about India so nothing wrong in making a general statement about Gaza during the WC.
Yes you're right. I think he can say anything during off the field as long as he is not speaking against India.
 
Yes you're right. I think he can say anything during off the field as long as he is not speaking against India.
He can say anything he likes on the field too. It's not an issue for the Indian government lol nor does he need Indias permission to express his views on a topic where many Indians feel the same.
 
He can say anything he likes on the field too. It's not an issue for the Indian government lol nor does he need Indias permission to express his views on a topic where many Indians feel the same.
He can't say anything on the field becouse there is rule made by icc . Why you guys are not understand simple fact . It's sometimes better to read the rules .
 
He can't say anything on the field becouse there is rule made by icc . Why you guys are not understand simple fact . It's sometimes better to read the rules .
Yes - I was talking specifically about the point you guys are making about 'in india'.

ICC would censure him in Pakistan, Zimbabwe, West Indies or Timbuktu.
 
Yes - I was talking specifically about the point you guys are making about 'in india'.

ICC would censure him in Pakistan, Zimbabwe, West Indies or Timbuktu.
Yes he can't say anything in the ground whenever he is playing . He can say anything off the field as long he is not speaking against india like kashmir , khalistan, Muslim etc .
 
Yes he can't say anything in the ground whenever he is playing . He can say anything off the field as long he is not speaking against india like kashmir , khalistan, Muslim etc .
I have no problem with it as long as this rule involves all countries playing and applied on all players
 
Rizwan basically tweeted supporting Terrorism. I mean he could have supported his 'Brothers and Sisters' of Gaza in a separate time AND not when Gaza just killed 1000s of innocent Israelis, beheaded babies, killed and paraded women naked. The entire world is condemning this attack and here we have a guy tweeting supporting the terrorists after a cricket match victory. It is equally sorry to see so many people supporting this.

This is what world feels about 7th October -

He's not supporting nor condoning "terrorism", whatever that means. He's showing solidarity with the oppressed and he's a million percent right to do so.

There was no international condemnation nor coverage of Israel's terrorist acts in 2020 btw. It's clear what is happening here
 
He's not supporting nor condoning "terrorism", whatever that means. He's showing solidarity with the oppressed and he's a million percent right to do so.

There was no international condemnation nor coverage of Israel's terrorist acts in 2020 btw. It's clear what is happening here

Yes people who gunned down thousands of innocent people on saturday are oppressed...LOL...pls. He is clearly supporting Gaza at a time where Hamas terrorists killed multiple innocent people. The timing of this tweet is not right and it has been debated to death in this thread. You are late to the party and I don't hv time to repeat same things again.
 
Yes people who gunned down thousands of innocent people on saturday are oppressed...LOL...pls. He is clearly supporting Gaza at a time where Hamas terrorists killed multiple innocent people. The timing of this tweet is not right and it has been debated to death in this thread. You are late to the party and I don't hv time to repeat same things again.

If Hamas does something, does that mean all Palestinians are guilty? Rizwan didn't side with Hamas. He sided with Palestinians.

What Israel is doing in Gaza is against international laws (war crimes). Do you agree or not?

Palestinians are indeed oppressed. Their lands have been systematically taken away over the past 80 years. Check the image below:

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When Muslims see non-Muslim NOT support the Palestinian cause, they throw fits because they feel everyone is obliged to support Palestine because it is a humanitarian issue but funnily enough, they themselves support the Palestinian cause due to religious reasons.

Don’t expect others to view things from a humanitarian lens when you yourself view everything from a religious lens.

Palestine issue is a humanitarian crisis ONLY for those people who are (a) non-Muslims and (b) not anti-Semitic.

Muslims, Pakistani or not, can support Palestine as much as they want but please don’t bother playing the faux humanitarian card.
Of course it’ll be humanitarian issue for non Muslim. Lol

And for Muslim it’ll be more than humanitarian.

Are you trying to create something that isn’t there by explaining the obvious?

Who hurt ya?
 
If Hamas does something, does that mean all Palestinians are guilty? Rizwan didn't side with Hamas. He sided with Palestinians.

What Israel is doing in Gaza is against international laws (war crimes). Do you agree or not?

Palestinians are indeed oppressed. Their lands have been systematically taken away over the past 80 years. Check the image below:

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Checked the map of akhand Bharat from 1800 .so map is changing during course of time . It's doesn't tell anything .
 
How about a tweet against the killing and persecution of minorities in Pakistan, e.g. Christians, Shias and Ahmedis?
 
ummm

unless, you meant Rizwan the president and not the cricketer...
My intention was not to say Rizwan was a Hamas sympathizer. I apologize for my post.
Rizwan has the right to support Palestinians and it’s no one’s business to argue about that.
 
Only propaganda you guys allow is the one authorized by your own government, yeah we know that.

This is our country. No?

So we will decide what we will do.

And we aren't answerable for that to any foreigner.
 
According to who?

He is not speaking about India so nothing wrong in making a general statement about Gaza during the WC.

According to Indian laws. And he is in India and he has to follow them.

As i said as long as Rizwan is doing it online and not on the ground or in any place in India, that's absolutely fine.
 
Yes - I was talking specifically about the point you guys are making about 'in india'.

ICC would censure him in Pakistan, Zimbabwe, West Indies or Timbuktu.

Yes even if he makes a political statement in any a public place in India he is breaking the law.

He can make his political statement online. No issues.
 
I usually cant stand rizwan and his drama bazi. Nothing wrong with the tweet. Indians please don’t get your panties in a knot
 
Yes people who gunned down thousands of innocent people on saturday are oppressed...LOL...pls. He is clearly supporting Gaza at a time where Hamas terrorists killed multiple innocent people. The timing of this tweet is not right and it has been debated to death in this thread. You are late to the party and I don't hv time to repeat same things again.
Yes. People who are walled off in their own land are oppressed. I think I'd know more about the subject than you. You might want to Google the ANC and how they were labeled in the West.

You don't get to take people's land, oppress them and then label them as terrorist. That's insane.
 
Israel targeting Hamas and Hamas targeting Israeli citizens. I hope you see the difference.

I condemn IDF if they are targeting innocent Palestinian citizens. I hope you do the same in condemning Hamas. Waiting for your reply.

Wow! Just wow! I can't believe what I am reading. If you were an israeli citizen in a village where you only have access to israeli propaganda nationalist TV, I might have understood this. But you live in US right and have access to information from all parties? If yes, this is probably the most ignorant post I can remember having read here.
 
Yes. People who are walled off in their own land are oppressed. I think I'd know more about the subject than you. You might want to Google the ANC and how they were labeled in the West.

You don't get to take people's land, oppress them and then label them as terrorist. That's insane.

That is a classic response but no one is calling the oppressed people of Gaza as terrorists. Hamas which just killed thousands of innocent people are being referred to as terrorists. The point we are trying to make is Rizwan should have chosen a different time to show sympathy for oppressed people in Gaza. This tweet just after mass murder committed by Hamas from the Gaza strip sends a poor light
 
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So this mess is starting to look very very suspicious. First of all the beheadings of babies that HAMAS was accused of never happened. Even Biden has been walking back his comments on some of the statements he made since this whole thing started. There are a lot of fake or AI generated images circulating out there that tries to paint the Palestinians in a bad light. The German girl who was declared to have been brutally killed after being paraded around naked….. is actually alive and her mother said so.

On the other hand Israel is guilty of war crimes because they are using a banned substance white phosphorus to kill Palestinian civilians in the conflict. Like always the misinformation and misdirection is used to distract from their heinous acts.

Please keep educating others if you are outside Pakistan about what’s going on. It’s our duty to stand against oppression, and speaking out is least we can do.
 
So this mess is starting to look very very suspicious. First of all the beheadings of babies that HAMAS was accused of never happened. Even Biden has been walking back his comments on some of the statements he made since this whole thing started. There are a lot of fake or AI generated images circulating out there that tries to paint the Palestinians in a bad light. The German girl who was declared to have been brutally killed after being paraded around naked….. is actually alive and her mother said so.

On the other hand Israel is guilty of war crimes because they are using a banned substance white phosphorus to kill Palestinian civilians in the conflict. Like always the misinformation and misdirection is used to distract from their heinous acts.

Please keep educating others if you are outside Pakistan about what’s going on. It’s our duty to stand against oppression, and speaking out is least we can do.
Last time these types of lies were propogated 1 million Iraqis were killed.
 
That is a classic response but no one is calling the oppressed people of Gaza as terrorists. Hamas which just killed thousands of innocent people are being referred to as terrorists. The point we are trying to make is Rizwan should have chosen a different time to show sympathy for oppressed people in Gaza. This tweet just after mass murder committed by Hamas from the Gaza strip sends a poor light
What would be the resultant force of occupying land that doesn't belong to you? 🤔

Where do you think "governments" or liberation movements came from?
 
So this mess is starting to look very very suspicious. First of all the beheadings of babies that HAMAS was accused of never happened. Even Biden has been walking back his comments on some of the statements he made since this whole thing started. There are a lot of fake or AI generated images circulating out there that tries to paint the Palestinians in a bad light. The German girl who was declared to have been brutally killed after being paraded around naked….. is actually alive and her mother said so.

On the other hand Israel is guilty of war crimes because they are using a banned substance white phosphorus to kill Palestinian civilians in the conflict. Like always the misinformation and misdirection is used to distract from their heinous acts.

Please keep educating others if you are outside Pakistan about what’s going on. It’s our duty to stand against oppression, and speaking out is least we can do.
Waiting for someone to say it was actually mossad fighters carrying out a false flag attack. Hamas were just angelic defenders.
 
Waiting for someone to say it was actually mossad fighters carrying out a false flag attack. Hamas were just angelic defenders.
This is actually not beyond them. Netanyahu was losing and what looks best when you are falling out of favor?
 
Wow! Just wow! I can't believe what I am reading. If you were an israeli citizen in a village where you only have access to israeli propaganda nationalist TV, I might have understood this. But you live in US right and have access to information from all parties? If yes, this is probably the most ignorant post I can remember having read here.
Great reply.
 
So this mess is starting to look very very suspicious. First of all the beheadings of babies that HAMAS was accused of never happened. Even Biden has been walking back his comments on some of the statements he made since this whole thing started. There are a lot of fake or AI generated images circulating out there that tries to paint the Palestinians in a bad light. The German girl who was declared to have been brutally killed after being paraded around naked….. is actually alive and her mother said so.

On the other hand Israel is guilty of war crimes because they are using a banned substance white phosphorus to kill Palestinian civilians in the conflict. Like always the misinformation and misdirection is used to distract from their heinous acts.

Please keep educating others if you are outside Pakistan about what’s going on. It’s our duty to stand against oppression, and speaking out is least we can do.
One is of à burnt teddy bear...look at the nose
 
Everything is a conspiracy. It is always CIA, RAW and Mossad.
The worst possible case of war based on trumped fake nonsense was the invasion of Iraq. I suggest you read up on what happened, the premise and the resulting loss of human life. Who were the parties responsible, etc. there is a reason for all such suspicion of US, Israel and Israel backing states.

And just so you know, a lot of Americans are also into 911 conspiracy theories and what they call the 911 truth movement. I am not saying there is any truth to it but just saying there are always people around who question the narrative.

A very similar case to your own PM trying to pick a fight to boost his numbers for the election and ended up in a poor pilot getting slapped the crap out by villagers in Pakistan. It was all very unnecessary but all these moves some underlying reason.

IN all cases, the aggressor creates a narrative and stirs crap justified by that narrative to achieve their goals. Bush, Modi, Netanyahu all stand to benefit from the examples I cited.

There were no WMDs in Iraq. If so much death and destruction can be caused based on a proven and known falsehood and the perpetrators walk away Scot free without any consequences and nobody bats an eye slash, can you really blame those questioning?
 
All the more reason for Pakistan to go ahead and recognise the state of Israel, something India did in 1950.
As soon as Saudis do then Pakistan establishment will follow, Pak establishment has already paved the way, it is just matter of time.
 
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