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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Saud Shakeel: Essential or Liability?

Saud Shakeel could not do well in the first innings against PM IX in the 4-day tour game on this Australian tour. He is now bowling his left arm spin. Probably a good chance for him to let everybody know that he has that talent as well. Not a liability by any chance.
 
Saud Shakeel Picked By Quetta Gladiators in Silver Category in PSL Draft 2024.
 
Well, I think he is fit for the silver category because he is not a conventional T20 player.
 
Again the same thing with saud. He could have simply ducked under that ball and he would have been safe but instead, he chose to play it with his bat and ended up losing his wicket. Mental blockage. Throws his wicket away after looking comfortable again.
 
Saud Shakeel in 14 innings in Test cricket till now, managed to score a minimum of 20 runs each time. This achievement is mirrored by only one other player in the entire history of Test cricket - Sir Everton Weekes.
 
He threw his wicket away. Simple as that. there was no need to play this delivery.
 
He had awful county season as well. I feel he is going to be another Thilan Samaraweera.

Don't mind it tbh

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Another who is going to face a lot of chin music during his career now that opposition teams have watched him a few times.
 
Could be the first time he fails to score 50 plus in a test match. Hope he can work on his short ball game, would hate to see a good prospect fade away due to a glaring weakness.
 
On Australian pitches, Saud Shakeel is a big liability. He is not taking responsibility for what he has been selected for in the Australia tour 2023-24. I can easily see through his body language. He is not ready to play big innings.
 
batandballbattle said:
Could be the first time he fails to score 50 plus in a test match. Hope he can work on his short ball game, would hate to see a good prospect fade away due to a glaring weakness.
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I pointed out many times that his feet are too far apart. On the bouncier, quicker tracks he isn't balance so the short ball will be real issue. It was very noticeable that many of our young U19 players also have this stance
 
FearlessRoar said:
On Australian pitches, Saud Shakeel is a big liability. He is not taking responsibility for what he has been selected for in the Australia tour 2023-24. I can easily see through his body language. He is not ready to play big innings.
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He is not a liability in fact he is the one who played 4 good shots for boundaries with ease and was looking confident before getting out on good ball. Out of entire batting order only Shan, Abdullah, Saud & Agha scored some boundaries with confidence. All others looked timid & beaten several times. Yes, they all have to work on their weakness and learn to play long innings at good SR
 
He's an average player he had a torrid time in the county games this season ,


Until hard fast paced good bounce wickets are not prepared at domestic level we won't produce the players.

As for the Perth wicket lyon has turned the ball and got some deliveries to spit. Even sena teams are producing better spinners than us .
 
He looks so comfortable early on in his innings and is able to get a couple of boundaries early on as a result. In both Odis and tests, but he hasn’t converted in Odis enough.

Not too worried about him, particularly in tests. He might not fulfil his potential throwing away his wicket, but he is talented enough.
 
The uneven bounce (which also troubled the Aussies in their innings) led to his dismissal. Up until then, he was impressive.

161 ball half-centuries is not what Pakistan needs.
 
Bewal Express said:
I pointed out many times that his feet are too far apart. On the bouncier, quicker tracks he isn't balance so the short ball will be real issue. It was very noticeable that many of our young U19 players also have this stance
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That's the issue when our pitches are some of the flattest itw. Groundstaff should try and cultivate more grass in some grounds, even if it would be a challenge trying to keep it from dying too quickly in the baking heat.
 
Has impressed all - The real reflection of this will be in the 2nd Test to see what he has learnt.
 
Really looks a good prospect. Best batter after babar in this lineup. Just needs a good long innings. His mental approach needs work…patience and resilience
 
Needs a bit of a rope before the jury out; he reminds me of a prime Fawad Alam but with a better batting stance
 
shaz619 said:
Needs a bit of a rope before the jury out; he reminds me of a prime Fawad Alam but with a better batting stance
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Think he will get many more chances

Just hope he doesnt go the Asad Shafiq way.
 
Saud got a 50 against Victoria on day 1 of the 2-day practice game. He is looking solid at the crease.
 
Saud has not done much on his first Australian tour but today might be the day when he can something and make a name for himself.
 
Pacy bouncy wickets is not Saud Shakeels cup of tea. The guy can't play the cut shot to pacers.
 
Saud is gone for 24. Batters have a fear or nervous 90s but Saud is different. He has a fear of nervous 20s. This guy could not bat long on this tour. Poor stuff.
 
Savak said:
Pacy bouncy wickets is not Saud Shakeels cup of tea. The guy can't play the cut shot to pacers.
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He certainly has some short comings but takes time to develop an all round game. To put it into perspective even Steve smith has been struggling against our mediocre attack…Saud struggling against Cummings is only to be expected. He will be a better player for the experience
 
He's a poorer version of asad shafiq , he can only play on dead wickets in pakistan a proper ftb.

A lot of these players shafique , saud and imam have inflated stats thanks to ramiz raja bowlers graveyards served up against Australia and England, alongwith these players cashing on a plethora of tests against a mediocre Sri lanka.


Saud was also in uk and had a torrid time for Yorkshire no way he even looked county level never mind intl level test batsmen.
 
The guy has played about 10 matches, is on his first SENA tour and played 1 tour innings come into the series.

Do we just expect people to turn up in Australia and start churning out runs as if they are in their back garden.

The scheduling has not helped any of our batters and Australia bowling is pretty decent.

I expect better the more and more time we have in the country- so want to see an improvement again next game as a group.

I wonder what people make of Joe Root and his performance in Australia. He comes with England who play a few tour games, has a bout 10 test innings per series and has 0 hundreds in Aus in 14 test matches! He would have been canned some years ago, going by what is being said above.

To win in Aus your fielding has to be on point, you have to have the right build up and a longer series so your batters can build up. Even India on those 2 tours had come early to the country as they played ODIs/T20s prior to playing 4 tests. They lost badly in an early test but had a chance to bounce back.

For what it is worth, I like our top 6 with Imam coming under pressure. We should definately challenge in Aus next game (as we have had quite a few innings now and next tour when the likes of Lyon Khawaja Warner Smith Hazelwood Starc will be gone, we should be ending the streak
 
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mazkhan said:
He's a poorer version of asad shafiq , he can only play on dead wickets in pakistan a proper ftb.

A lot of these players shafique , saud and imam have inflated stats thanks to ramiz raja bowlers graveyards served up against Australia and England, alongwith these players cashing on a plethora of tests against a mediocre Sri lanka.


Saud was also in uk and had a torrid time for Yorkshire no way he even looked county level never mind intl level test batsmen.
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Didn't he get 100s in SL on raging turners?
 
He is another parchii saying this since day 1, Pakistan robbing a deserving player by holding on to these referrals
 
Fly him back to Asia and he will score truckloads of runs. Some people are only made for certain conditions.

Haris Sohail would have been magnificent on these conditions.
 
Sher Khan said:
Fly him back to Asia and he will score truckloads of runs. Some people are only made for certain conditions.

Haris Sohail would have been magnificent on these conditions.
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Haris Sohail averages a magnificent 6.16 after 6 inns in Southern Hemisphere Tests.
 
The alarm bells were there after a dreadful stint for Yorkshire in CC earlier this year.

Serious question mark over Saud Shakeel's technique outside Asia.
 
Saud is clueless against quality fast bowling he has no go through shot , lack of options make him helpless against pacers
 
Pakistan lost the 2nd Test Match primarily due to Saud’s non-performance. At his position, he should be playing a long inning, instead, he’s comfortable with 20s/30s scores.

Having said that, he has all the ingredients to be a great player. Pakistan needs to be patient with him and not discard him like other players.
 
chinaman00 said:
Pakistan lost the 2nd Test Match primarily due to Saud’s non-performance. At his position, he should be playing a long inning, instead, he’s comfortable with 20s/30s scores.

Having said that, he has all the ingredients to be a great player. Pakistan needs to be patient with him and not discard him like other players.
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Both inns he came in with a platform, he got in and threw it away, his shot in his 2nd inns was criminal. He needs to buck his ideas up big time, can't waste away good starts like this in tough games like this
 
Looks suspect in SENA conditions.
Hope he can develop his game to adjust to more seam movement/bounce, since the talent is clearly there
 
He is 5 ft 6 inches tall. How can he play short-pitched bowling from fast bowlers who are 6 ft 6 inches tall?

Saud is an excellent batsman but he is physically handicapped against short-pitched bowling.

There is nothing he can do to address this issue. Well-directed short bowling will also trouble him especially on quicker surfaces.

But you have to understand that Pakistan is the least talented cricket nation in the world and 99.99% of the cricketers in Pakistan are uttely bad, so you really don’t have anyone better than Saud waiting in the ranks.
 
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Mamoon said:
He is 5 ft 6 inches tall. How can he play short-pitched bowling from fast bowlers who are 6 ft 6 inches tall?

Saud is an excellent batsman but he is physically handicapped against short-pitched bowling.

There is nothing he can do to address this issue. Well-directed short bowling will also trouble him especially on quicker surfaces.

But you have to understand that Pakistan is the least talented cricket nation in the world and 99.99% of the cricketers in Pakistan are utterly bad, so you really don’t have anyone better than Saud waiting in the ranks.
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Davey Warner is also a short

So was langer

Dean elgar is a short

Saeed anwar wasn't very tall
 
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Height irrelevant for a batsmen. There’s been many great batsmen both very tall and equally short.
 
Saud is only 9 tests old and people expect him to start scoring big in countries like Australia where almost every Pak batter has struggled. Even younis khan. For that matter since YK debut in 2000 many of his early 100’s like SS were in subcontinent on easier tracks against spin heavy/pace light attacks. Only later was there the occasional 100 in England or new Zealand.

Do people really expect SS to go from such a low standard as our domestic tournaments to facing Cummins and co on the fastest bounciest tracks in the world and start scoring 100’s straight away? Some people have ridiculous expectations it takes time to build a test batting career.
 
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Saud Shakeel needs to learn how to turn good starts into big scores. These 20s are not enough and having a record of most consecutive 20 runs is of no use if you cannot turn almost 50 percent of those into 50s and 100s. His game toward square and point is also poor. struggles against short ball as well.
 
Low bounce, slow track merchant.

Effective in Asia, but don’t expect anything from him on a true pitch with a bit of pace and bounce.
 
today is the day for saud shakeel to justify his place in the team and his nick name "Chota Don"
 
Useless in Australian South African conditions. Cannot play the cut and pull shot against the pacers even if his life depends on it.
 
Was amazing in that series in Sri Lanka on spinning tracks, but has been pretty disappointing in this Australia series.
 
He just looked too distracted today. First making an issue with the sightscreen for a while, then he got hit. He just didn't look in the right mental state todya.
 
I don't understand what is wrong with this guy. He is mentally under the ground. Poor shots to get out, failing to cash in on his good starts, that is not good.
 
He's simply not good enough.

Asad shafiq was a much better batsmen and even asad wasn't any world beater.
 
Saud also has the same problem of SENA condition. He was brilliant is asian condition but his overseas game needs to be improved. He cannot leave the ball when he should be leaving more in Aussie condition. Poking at every delivery is not a batter's approach.
 
Been unlucky all series.

If any other batsmen faced the delivers he faced than their stats would be 10 times worse.

Inshallah next series Saud bounces back and makes a claim for captaincy
 
Not a good Australian Tour for Saud. He did what he has been doing and that is poking at unnecessary delivered and throwing his wickets away after a good start.
 
Absolutely trash player woeful completely outdone by the Aussies some glaring technique issues with him for next innings he should bat at no.8 because in middle rider his customary failure adds more pressure to the side
 
i expected agha to fail miserably in sena but saud has been the real trash...one could see this short ball issue in the wc and Aussies are exploiting it nicely.
 
If we had a solid no.5 things would have been different, Saud is a complete turnoff heck he is even worst than Sarfraz
 
Exposed in Australia, but so were most Pakistani batsmen including our greats.

This will be a great learning experience for him and he will come back stronger.

One thing is for sure - there is nobody better than him in domestics given the pathetic state of FC cricket in the country.
 
He's been troubled by pace and bounce of Aussie pitches which is no surprise.

I hope he doesn't become one of those players who cannot score a run outside Asia.

He needs to work on his technique.
 
lazy cricketer said:
i expected agha to fail miserably in sena but saud has been the real trash...one could see this short ball issue in the wc and Aussies are exploiting it nicely.
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Saud plays beautiful cover drives and for many Pakistani fans that = a good technique.

Cover drives mean jack if you've poor footwork and don't know where your off stump is.

It's been a humbling tour but I don't blame him. Our system doesn't expose these guys enough to bouncy wickets where they can learn to develop a backfoot game.

Expectations of Saud should be tempered. If he can be a poor man's Mahela Jayawardene that's more than good enough for our standards.
 
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