[PICTURES] Virat Kohli & his team wearing army caps during 3rd ODI vs Australia - OTT or acceptable?

[Stalin]

So wearing an army cap to show solidarity to the Martyrs of a terrorist attack is offending people. Jeez, how brittle you guys are.

 

[Sidilicious]

Seems they are performing as well as the Indian Army...

Fair point. Indian army might loses a skirmish or two, but generally wins the war. Just like the World cup

 

[Sycamore]

What a bunch of jokers. No one is stopping them from supporting army and their families but this is just ridiculous. Anyways doesn't bother me , just continues India humiliation from last month.

 

[szundercover]

Then we should wear our pakistan army caps during the world cup.Lets see who will stop us then.Pakistan army zindabad!

 

[Realromeo]

It feels pretty weird to be honest, considering our Army and IAF is in shambles. However, this is not suspension worthy at all. This is soooo much different from Moeen's case lol.

 

[Kroll]

This is unacceptable. Politicizing sport and could be construed as provocative. The ICC should grow some balls and come down hard on these jokers but we all know the ICC are even bigger clowns.

 

[ILcricket]

I hope the Pakistan cricket team wears arm bands saying save Kashmir and caps with the PAF logos on it. We should also bring back our old slogans in the crowd..enough of this jeet lo dil bakwaas. Clear militaristic fascist jingoism going on here. Just shows how right wing fascism has seeped into every pore of India. Similar to other right wing societies in the past!!

Whats ironic is Indians go around talking about how Pakistanis are militaristic and under the thumb of their army etc..ab yay dekho..whats next RSS armbands and special hand gestures before the match..?? we should not shake their hands on the day and keep our nicey nice gestures for other teams..Time to go back to the "cricket jihad" days of sharjah...and our slogans like Pakistan ka matlab kya and our naaray takbirs!! and Naaray haideris!!

just about the most absurd post on this thread

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well Kashmir is not exactly part of india now is it? so how does solidarity with them mean attacking india?

It is de facto part of India. Read a few statements by different countries on Pulwana attack.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is unacceptable. Politicizing sport and could be construed as provocative. The ICC should grow some balls and come down hard on these jokers but we all know the ICC are even bigger clowns.

Who said it is unacceptable?

Provaction to whom?

How is this politicizing? A person supporting his country's army is not politics.

 

[Khwaja78]

For an arm band or vest under shirt by South AFrican player Imran TAhir [wearing shirt with Junaid Jamshed picture]. ICC reprimanded and warned him same with English player like Moeen Ali wearing an arm band for Palestinians.

Where is ICC now is'nt this political statements. Both the above-mentioned issues were highlighted by biased Indian media, now a butt of the jokes around the world for their fake news. ICC has become a mistress of BCCI and now it feels we need to leave cricket altogether. IOC and FIFA also have member nations who pay more than the rest, but they make sure no country is discriminated and treated equally as per their rules.

 

[cricketjoshila]

For an arm band or vest under shirt by South AFrican player Imran TAhir [wearing shirt with Junaid Jamshed picture]. ICC reprimanded and warned him same with English player like Moeen Ali wearing an arm band for Palestinians.

Where is ICC now is'nt this political statements. Both the above-mentioned issues were highlighted by biased Indian media, now a butt of the jokes around the world for their fake news. ICC has become a mistress of BCCI and now it feels we need to leave cricket altogether. IOC and FIFA also have member nations who pay more than the rest, but they make sure no country is discriminated and treated equally as per their rules.

The reason for Imran Tahir's reprimand


This contravenes Section G1 of the ICC Clothing and Equipment Rules and Regulations, which says: Players and team officials shall not be permitted to wear, display or otherwise convey messages through arm bands or other items affixed to clothing or equipment unless approved in advance by both the player or team official's and the ICC Cricket Operations Department,"

 

[MenInG]

So wearing an army cap to show solidarity to the Martyrs of a terrorist attack is offending people. Jeez, how brittle you guys are.

Time and a place.

 

[dhump]

Nothing but cheap drama to sell the product a little bit more and they look nothing but jokers.

People who got no personal stake at wars and earned maybe 1% of what these jokers do die wearing these caps, and they are using it for some nationalist drama.

What a joke of country India is becoming these days.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Nothing but cheap drama to sell the product a little bit more and they look nothing but jokers.

People who got no personal stake at wars and earned maybe 1% of what these jokers do die wearing these caps, and they are using it for some nationalist drama.

What a joke of country India is becoming these days.

You realise that they are doing it for their countrymen.And by the reactions in media, social media, on this thread, one can assume that this gesture has been appreciated by Indians.

I understand your dislike for the Indian Army but that doesnot mean Indians share your views. Calling a country a joke because yoy do not agree with its people shows your intolerance and nothing else.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Time and a place.

Time: After the death of 46 Indian armed forces personnel in a terrorist attack.

Place: A sporting event in India.

 

[Bilal7]

Nothing wrong with this. However, the next time a player decides to support any political, religious or humanitarian cause, the ICC should not complain about it. Provided that the Indian team does not get fined for their actions in this match, of course.

Supporting your country's military is a political cause, not a patriotic one. Not everyone finds war acceptable and I am sure there are many Indians, especially in IOK that hate the Indian army. If the BCCI forced its players to do this, then that is absolutely disgusting.

 

[Madplayer]

I am late to the party but are Indians defending this too?

 

[Khwaja78]

Nothing but cheap drama to sell the product a little bit more and they look nothing but jokers.

People who got no personal stake at wars and earned maybe 1% of what these jokers do die wearing these caps, and they are using it for some nationalist drama.

What a joke of country India is becoming these days.

Rofl their nationalism is also fake. Doing for the gallery. Lets see how 'nationalist' players and whatsapp fake news media boycott June 16 match with Pakistan, looking forward to that, dramaybaaz nation.

 

[dhump]

You realise that they are doing it for their countrymen.And by the reactions in media, social media, on this thread, one can assume that this gesture has been appreciated by Indians.

I understand your dislike for the Indian Army but that doesnot mean Indians share your views. Calling a country a joke because yoy do not agree with its people shows your intolerance and nothing else.

I don't hate Indian Army they have similar kind of low paid poor soldiers dying on the front for no reason like any other Army in the world so please refrain from making moot points on my behalf.

I am calling people who act like a joker a joker that is like calling a spade a spade. If India keeps on doing these marketing videos and theater than sorry, it will turn into a joke of a country that is fueled by nothing but drama like they are doing for the past few weeks.

You can name it intolerance or anything you want that makes no difference for me. I have my opinion if you think it is intolerant that is your understanding.

 

[ILcricket]

For an arm band or vest under shirt by South AFrican player Imran TAhir [wearing shirt with Junaid Jamshed picture]. ICC reprimanded and warned him same with English player like Moeen Ali wearing an arm band for Palestinians.

Where is ICC now is'nt this political statements. Both the above-mentioned issues were highlighted by biased Indian media, now a butt of the jokes around the world for their fake news. ICC has become a mistress of BCCI and now it feels we need to leave cricket altogether. IOC and FIFA also have member nations who pay more than the rest, but they make sure no country is discriminated and treated equally as per their rules.

Moeen is not a Palestinian , is he ?
Imran T had been reprimanded for displaying a personal message without seeking prior approval from his home side or the ICC.
Have you & others posters like @theGreatKhan frothing at mouth noticed that these camouflage caps were sanctioned by BCCI ?

 

[Bilal7]

You realise that they are doing it for their countrymen.And by the reactions in media, social media, on this thread, one can assume that this gesture has been appreciated by Indians.

I understand your dislike for the Indian Army but that doesnot mean Indians share your views. Calling a country a joke because yoy do not agree with its people shows your intolerance and nothing else.

Except that I'm sure many Indian Kashmiris are quite upset about this move, especially if the BCCI forced the players to do so. I'm sure you realize that not all Indians support the actions of the Indian armed forces.

There is nothing wrong with what the players did, like you said, it is their country and their expression. However, do not portray this as something that all Indians appreciate.

 

[Sachin136]

Except that I'm sure many Indian Kashmiris are quite upset about this move, especially if the BCCI forced the players to do so. I'm sure you realize that not all Indians support the actions of the Indian armed forces.

There is nothing wrong with what the players did, like you said, it is their country and their expression. However, do not portray this as something that all Indians appreciate.

There are 1.3 billion Indians. There is nothing that they can all agree on. Not even that the sky is blue.

But the point is that in general, this gesture is appreciated by most Indians.

 

[Bilal7]

Moeen is not a Palestinian , is he ?
Imran T had been reprimanded for displaying a personal message without seeking prior approval from his home side or the ICC.
Have you & others posters like @theGreatKhan frothing at mouth noticed that these camouflage caps were sanctioned by BCCI ?

Yes, he isn't Palestinian. He is however, a human being and a Muslim and is connected to Palestinian citizens on those two accounts. Unless you think nationalism or patriotism are the only acceptable means of identification and group organization?

The armbands were sanctioned by the ECB. How do you think he got to the field with them on without his coach, captain or managers stopping him if it wasn't sanctioned?

 

[Khwaja78]

Moeen is not a Palestinian , is he ?
Imran T had been reprimanded for displaying a personal message without seeking prior approval from his home side or the ICC.
Have you & others posters like @theGreatKhan frothing at mouth noticed that these camouflage caps were sanctioned by BCCI ?

ICC match referee should be replaced by a BCCI official to sanction what can an Indian player wear or do, nice precedent set. Disciplinary enforcements by ICC should go out the window.

 

[Bilal7]

There are 1.3 billion Indians. There is nothing that they can all agree on. Not even that the sky is blue.

But the point is that in general, this gesture is appreciated by most Indians.

Is there a chance that there is disagreement over this within the ICT as well? Also, in the case that a player did not want to go along with it, would there be pressure on him to conform?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Except that I'm sure many Indian Kashmiris are quite upset about this move, especially if the BCCI forced the players to do so. I'm sure you realize that not all Indians support the actions of the Indian armed forces.

There is nothing wrong with what the players did, like you said, it is their country and their expression. However, do not portray this as something that all Indians appreciate.

Whether all Indians appreciate cannot be decided by Pakistanis? Can it be?

Lets for the sake of argument say majority of Indians agree to it. Thats democracy.



You have no proof that bcci forced this? Do you?

So your criticism is based on what exactly?

 

[Titan24]

Where are the Army helmets?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Is there a chance that there is disagreement over this within the ICT as well? Also, in the case that a player did not want to go along with it, would there be pressure on him to conform?

Do you have any source claiming this? People cant debate based on your imaginations, can they?

 

[Kroll]

So wearing an army cap to show solidarity to the Martyrs of a terrorist attack is offending people. Jeez, how brittle you guys are.

We all know this is less to with the terrorist attack but more to do with their aggression against Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I don't hate Indian Army they have similar kind of low paid poor soldiers dying on the front for no reason like any other Army in the world so please refrain from making moot points on my behalf.

I am calling people who act like a joker a joker that is like calling a spade a spade. If India keeps on doing these marketing videos and theater than sorry, it will turn into a joke of a country that is fueled by nothing but drama like they are doing for the past few weeks.

You can name it intolerance or anything you want that makes no difference for me. I have my opinion if you think it is intolerant that is your understanding.

Ofcourse its intolerant if things that dont conform to your views make people jokets.

 

[jagatk]

We all know this is less to with the terrorist attack but more to do with their aggression against Pakistan.

That aggression started due to the 46 soldiers that were killed in the suicide attack.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We all know this is less to with the terrorist attack but more to do with their aggression against Pakistan.

Your assumptions.

 

[coy0607]

I don't get why the Indian Army needs support - never seen a sports org support their armed forces

Usually you would see athletes support sometime like breast cancer, or colon cancer or raise awareness for a non-profit org, not for the armed forces

i guess spirits must be really low there...

 

[Khwaja78]

Coming soon BSF and CRPF badge, if they can bring weapons on the ground also in name of solidarity, ICC won't mind. Pakistani fans should bring the KAshmiri flag in also.

 

[Sachin136]

Is there a chance that there is disagreement over this within the ICT as well? Also, in the case that a player did not want to go along with it, would there be pressure on him to conform?

I doubt it. I would expect that every person who plays for his country would have no problem in donning a hat as a gesture of gratitude for the Indian armed forces.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Don’t mind them wearing a cap like this one. Ppl should be allowed to have freedom of expression on the field. I stopped buying the argument of keeping politics out of sports. The very idea of one NATION playing AGAINST another NATION is deeply political. But I do feel that there should be equity for all nations and individuals regarding their freedom of expression.

 

[BaankeJi]

That aggression started due to the 46 soldiers that were killed in the suicide attack.

And that attack was owned up by a terrorist organization that is headquartered in Pakistan. No wonder Pakistanis don't like this gesture.

 

[jagatk]

I don't get why the Indian Army needs support - never seen a sports org support their armed forces

Usually you would see athletes support sometime like breast cancer, or colon cancer or raise awareness for a non-profit org, not for the armed forces

i guess spirits must be really low there...

Google remembrance poppy.

 

[Kroll]

Who said it is unacceptable?

Provaction to whom?

How is this politicizing? A person supporting his country's army is not politics.

Many could see this as provocative or offensive, not least the IOK population of which countless human rights abuses have been committed on them by your army.

A person can support their army buy why should a sports person bring it on to the sporting arena? FIFA/UEFA ban all such visual articles that could be supporting institutions/political entities that have nothing to do with the sport itself. But I guess there's a difference in standards/mentality between India/subcontinent and developed areas.

 

[QuickCrick]

Wearing the cap makes it a little cringey although there is nothing wrong with the message, an armband or a badge would have made it look less for show..

 

[Kroll]

Your assumptions.

Dude, you know it.

 

[dhump]

Ofcourse its intolerant if things that dont conform to your views make people jokets.

I hope that you apprehend that I am not here to contemplate your wishes but to express my opinions. It is comical to see that when you failed to justify any of the claims and assumptions you made on my last post you are trying conveniently to hang by the thread of intolerance because my opinion is hurting your sentiments a little too much.

I can assure you that my narrow view as per your opinion is shared by many all around the world. Cricket players wearing army uniform-caps on the field is nothing but a joke and a circus to entertain masses who are willing to buy this product for now.

I think during the next match Virat and co should wear farmer like turbans to create awareness and show the solidarity with thousands of farmers who commit suicide in India although I don't expect to see that as it is not a very sellable product.

 

[CleverSir]

It is a stupid stunt. Please let us not Americanize cricket. Just enjoy the sport for what it is.

 

[oneindia]

Indian team, playing in India and supporting n paying to homage to Indian army n that rattles a lot of people? Man who needs a war when a cap can do the job.

 

[warcry]

Is the Indian Army so weak that they need their indian cricket team to show solidarity?

 

[Bilal7]

Do you have any source claiming this? People cant debate based on your imaginations, can they?

Whether all Indians appreciate cannot be decided by Pakistanis? Can it be?

Lets for the sake of argument say majority of Indians agree to it. Thats democracy.

You have no proof that bcci forced this? Do you?

So your criticism is based on what exactly?

I am just asking some (uncomfortable) questions. I know that it has been a tough month for you but no need to snap at people like this. I'm sure we'll get some more information about this once the match is over.

I doubt it. I would expect that every person who plays for his country would have no problem in donning a hat as a gesture of gratitude for the Indian armed forces.

So you're saying that loving your country and being anti-war/anti-military are mutually exclusive?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Many could see this as provocative or offensive, not least the IOK population of which countless human rights abuses have been committed on them by your army.

A person can support their army buy why should a sports person bring it on to the sporting arena? FIFA/UEFA ban all such visual articles that could be supporting institutions/political entities that have nothing to do with the sport itself. But I guess there's a difference in standards/mentality between India/subcontinent and developed areas.

Who is this many? What you call IOK is the state of J and K for Indians. Pakistanis may think whatever about the Indian army, doesnot mean Indians wont support their army. Just like Pakistanis support their army,do you wonder what Bangladeshis or Indians or Afghans or someone else thinks about PA.

Players have sported outfits on the field in support of many causes. Indian team is doing that they believe is a worthy cause.

 

[Zaz]

Youd have thought after the humiliation last week these people wouldve learnt their lesson but looks like a leopard can never change its spots

 

[Bilal7]

Once again, supporting an army and endorsing the actions of that army is a political move. An army is used to further political goals. It is not the same as supporting one's country/nation/religion/tribe.

 

[Bilal7]

Who is this many? What you call IOK is the state of J and K for Indians. Pakistanis may think whatever about the Indian army, doesnot mean Indians wont support their army. Just like Pakistanis support their army,do you wonder what Bangladeshis or Indians or Afghans or someone else thinks about PA.

Players have sported outfits on the field in support of many causes. Indian team is doing that they believe is a worthy cause.

If the people if IOK support the Indian armed forces, why did they kill 46 members of the Indian armed forces?

Also, why do so many in IOK want to be liberated from Indian armed forces.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Once again, supporting an army and endorsing the actions of that army is a political move. An army is used to further political goals. It is not the same as supporting one's country/nation/religion/tribe.

Thats your definition.

 

[Tiger96]

Indians are well within their rights.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If the people if IOK support the Indian armed forces, why did they kill 46 members of the Indian armed forces?

Also, why do so many in IOK want to be liberated from Indian armed forces.

Why did ISIS brainwashed terrorists killed their countrymen?

 

[Mr. Cricket]

Rofl their nationalism is also fake. Doing for the gallery. Lets see how 'nationalist' players and whatsapp fake news media boycott June 16 match with Pakistan, looking forward to that, dramaybaaz nation.

Nobody gonna boycott match with you. We don't wanna to lose an easy win.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Indian team, playing in India and supporting n paying to homage to Indian army n that rattles a lot of people? Man who needs a war when a cap can do the job.

Some how its a feeling among posters here that Indians shouldnot support the Indian Army. Thats just ridiculous.

 

[Mp812]

Youd have thought after the humiliation last week these people wouldve learnt their lesson but looks like a leopard can never change its spots

The crackdown on certain organisations in full force after few trees were bombed by incompetent pilots shows exactly what transpired. Imagine if they had bombed the camp.

 

[oneindia]

Now onwards BCCI will put in formal application of PCB and PP armchair expert of professional ethics before respecting their army. For same Ethics ke thekedar respecting your army is wrong but selling your country is pardonable because that player could win you matches.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

they can donate their knickers to the Indian Army for all we care but dont bring this on to the Cricket field.

Eh, India can wear anything they want. It's their homeground, and they're not playing against Pakistan. Not classy but not illegal.

 

[ILcricket]

Yes, he isn't Palestinian. He is however, a human being and a Muslim and is connected to Palestinian citizens on those two accounts. Unless you think nationalism or patriotism are the only acceptable means of identification and group organization?

The armbands were sanctioned by the ECB. How do you think he got to the field with them on without his coach, captain or managers stopping him if it wasn't sanctioned?

Yet you find Indian players wearing a camo cap sanctioned by BCCI with its logo in support of Indian Army offensive ?

 

[Kroll]

Some how its a feeling among posters here that Indians shouldnot support the Indian Army. Thats just ridiculous.

No one actually said that. I mean the question was - is it OTT or acceptable? And some are going to choose the former but that doesn't necessarily instigate that they shouldn't support the IA.

 

[Hbomb00]

They did nothing wrong, leave the poor guys alone.

 

[StreetSmart]

Who deems it? Whats the political cause? Indians supporting Indian Army is not a political cause.

I think there is a way to show "By wearing black armband"

 

[ILcricket]

A camouflage cap worn by INDIAN players in support of INDIAN ARMY sanctioned by BCCI & bearing it's LOGO has some Pakistani fans behaving like insecure kids .

 

[StreetSmart]

Some how its a feeling among posters here that Indians shouldnot support the Indian Army. Thats just ridiculous.

no Indians should support their army but this is not the appropriate way

 

[Pete Rose]

There are no easy answers. I find NFL halftime time salutes and jets flying over to be fascist. It’s wortj questioning what segments of society are worth supporting and which are not.

 

[Bilal7]

Yet you find Indian players wearing a camo cap sanctioned by BCCI with its logo in support of Indian Army offensive ?

Nothing wrong with this. However, the next time a player decides to support any political, religious or humanitarian cause, the ICC should not complain about it. Provided that the Indian team does not get fined for their actions in this match, of course.

Supporting your country's military is a political cause, not a patriotic one. Not everyone finds war acceptable and I am sure there are many Indians, especially in IOK that hate the Indian army. If the BCCI forced its players to do this, then that is absolutely disgusting.

Learn to read. This does not offend me at all.

 

[Kroll]

A camouflage cap worn by INDIAN players in support of INDIAN ARMY sanctioned by BCCI & bearing it's LOGO has some Pakistani fans behaving like insecure kids .

By all means support the IA, but it's not appropriate to bring it on to the cricket field. They're cricket players not soldiers.

 

[Sidilicious]

no Indians should support their army but this is not the appropriate way

So Indians cannot dedicate a match to 40 odd soldiers martyred by a terrorist? How is this not appropriate?

People wear bands, here they have adorned caps and donated thier match fees.

 

[Zaz]

By all means support the IA, but it's not appropriate to bring it on to the cricket field. They're cricket players not soldiers.

Exactly if pakistan started handing out paf caps on the ground the crying indians would be running to the ICC again wanting pakistan banned again

 

[asadee]

India needs to stop embarrasing itself and come out of this war hysteria.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

My understanding is that the Indian team are wearing the caps a tribue to the victims of the Pulwama attacks. I see nothing wrong with that.

If Kohli and co had come out and said they were wearing it to support the Indian military since they were on the brink of war - that would be a different story.

I see nothing different here from Pakistan team paying tribute to the victim of the Army school shootings or paying tribute to the Pakistani army by doing push ups in the middle of Lords.

As for the Moeen issue - personally the Palestine issue is something I feel really strongly about and love to see people using their fame to raise awareness regarding this matter. However, unfortunately, it's really no surprise that ECB doesn't want their employees preaching a pro-Palestine/anti-Israel message since people are very quick to label your employees - and consequently your organisation - as anti-scemetic. Unfortunate truth of the world we live in.

Just as you’re passionate about Palestine, I have family from Kashmir. I protest India doing this in a match for their army who are committing a genocide in Kashmir which they occupy illegally.

 

[Bilal7]

So Indians cannot dedicate a match to 40 odd soldiers martyred by a terrorist? How is this not appropriate?

People wear bands, here they have adorned caps and donated thier match fees.

Arm-bands would have been fine. People have an issue because the caps represent the players supporting the actions of the armed forces, instead of simply remembering the dead.

 

[Syed1]

So these days whoever is doning the Indian camo is losing.

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

And they lost !!!!

Phusssssssssss

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Aur Pheno Topi

 

[Sidilicious]

Arm-bands would have been fine. Pakistanis have an issue because the caps represent the players supporting the actions of the armed forces, instead of simply remembering the dead.

Corrected.

Please show me where people other than Pakistanis are moaning. We are playing against the Aussies. Surely, they should be the first ones to be offended.

 

[Bilal7]

Corrected.

Please show me where people other than Pakistanis are moaning. We are playing against the Aussies. Surely, they should be the first ones to be offended.

How do you know they aren't? This is a Pakistani forum, with very few fans of other teams. Let's see what the fall-out entails.

 

[Bilal7]

To be fair, the Indian Cricket Team are better than the Indian Air Force.

 

[slipcatch]

Joke according to who? Pak? Ya right.

I am sure you were taught Pakistan isn't the only country in the world.

 

[DRsohail]

Lolz so cap was not that good as far as results are concerned.