Pitch for India vs England 2nd Test expected to offer more turn

[guna]

Rohit
Gill
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Pant
Pandya
Sundar
Ashwin
Kuldeep
Bumrah

Since it’s a turner, you do not need Ishant. Pandya can roll his arm for a few overs and then spinners can takeover.
Hardik is a very player of spin and can hit them out of the attack like Pant and improves the batting too.

On a turning track, Kuldeep and Ashwin should be enough to get 20 wickets along with Sundar who can chip in with a few.

 

[Gullycricket]

The Times of India reporting that the BCCI groundsman, Taposh Chatterjee, who was in charge of overseeing the pitches at Chennai has been demoted and packed away to work in domestic cricket. Apparently, it was due to heavy criticism of the pitch from the team. The pitch preparation for the second test has been handed to a rookie groundsman who has never even prepared a pitch for first-class cricket. It's a complete overreaction, although characteristically vindictive, from the BCCI if true.

Lol here we go. This Virat Kilo is such a rondhu

 

[wrongun]

Lol here we go. This Virat Kilo is such a rondhu

Millionaire cricketers in India are not going to take responsibility for their own performance when there is a groundsman to somehow blame for them underperforming on the same pitch England played well on.

 

[jiduguravindra]

Millionaire cricketers in India are not going to take responsibility for their own performance when there is a groundsman to somehow blame for them underperforming on the same pitch England played well on.

Imagine india winning toss last match and scoring big in first innings then bundled out England to win the match, then their should didn't have been any problem.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Archer is out. Bring in Jimmy instead. I’m inclined to have Moeen in for Bess who bowled 17 full tosses at Chennai.

I'd be prone to giving Anderson a rest ahead of the pink ball test, so would prefer to play Woakes tomorrow if he's fit. Given the pitch is likely to be a bunsen, there's merit in the argument to pick Moeen in addition to Bess and Leach.

 

[Mamoon]

I'd be prone to giving Anderson a rest ahead of the pink ball test, so would prefer to play Woakes tomorrow if he's fit. Given the pitch is likely to be a bunsen, there's merit in the argument to pick Moeen in addition to Bess and Leach.

Considering the rhythm he is in, it will be a tough call to rest him. If England’s bowling is flat in the second Test, the decision to rest Anderson will be highlighted as a major blunder.

He is definitely going to play in the D/N Test though.

 

[sindhiboy]

England's only hope is winning the toss yet again (and injuring Ashwin). India is clearly the better team in their conditions and regardless of the type of pitch, the toss is extremely crucial.



This is the match to play both Anderson and Broad in. Archer will be missed and India will punish any of England's other pacers. Unless England decide to go with three spinners and utilize Moeen's batting.

Olly stone (promising pacer)will most likely replace jofra.
Broad and Anderson would be a one dimensional attack.

Yes they have improved alot and will be effective. However, a fast bowler is a must in three conditions
Jofra was very crucial in the first test even though the stats may not say so.

 

[Mamoon]

Huge blow? A far more experienced Stuart Broad is available to replace weakling Jofra.

Yes, a huge blow because the England management sees Archer as an impact bowler who can take the pitch out of the equation.

They don’t want Anderson and Broad bowling together in the subcontinent anymore.

The “weaklink” played a massive role in the first Test with the way he took out the Indian openers with the new ball in the first innings and also made Kohli hop around the crease on a pitch that had no bounce and carry for fast bowlers.

It set the tone for the rest of the innings and was a major factor in India achieving a paltry total in the first innings which effectively killed the game.

Had Gill and Rohit put up a 100+ run partnership, or if Gill and Pujara would have put up a long partnership, the first innings total and subsequently the outcome of the match could have been different.

Archer getting India two down inside the first 10 overs played a big role in shaping the outcome of the match.

Statsguru analysts may not see it and can call him a weaklink, but Joe Root and the England camp understand his value and importance, and he will always get picked in such conditions whenever he is fit.

 

[Bilal_103]

Whatever happened to wood I remember he used to crank it up couple years back

 

[James]

Reading between the lines of Joe Root’s interview, it looks like England’s 2nd Test team could be:

Burns
Sibley
Lawrence
Root*
Stokes
Pope
Foakes+
Moeen
Broad
Leach
Anderson

I would be pretty happy with this selection to be honest. Dom Bess needs to be replaced due to his mediocre fitness and him running on empty. The only worry for me is that Jimmy could then be too exhausted to get picked and/or be effective in the pink ball day-night 3rd Test, when he is probably the optimum bowler for those conditions — there is thus an argument for Woakes to play the 2nd Test instead of him.

 

[James]

Ok, confirmed now.

Will be the team I posted above, but Woakes playing instead of the rested Anderson.

Buttler also rested. Archer injured. Bess dropped.

Olly Stone likely to be 12th man.

 

[Technics 1210]

Yes, a huge blow because the England management sees Archer as an impact bowler who can take the pitch out of the equation.

They don’t want Anderson and Broad bowling together in the subcontinent anymore.

The “weaklink” played a massive role in the first Test with the way he took out the Indian openers with the new ball in the first innings and also made Kohli hop around the crease on a pitch that had no bounce and carry for fast bowlers.

It set the tone for the rest of the innings and was a major factor in India achieving a paltry total in the first innings which effectively killed the game.

Had Gill and Rohit put up a 100+ run partnership, or if Gill and Pujara would have put up a long partnership, the first innings total and subsequently the outcome of the match could have been different.

Archer getting India two down inside the first 10 overs played a big role in shaping the outcome of the match.

Statsguru analysts may not see it and can call him a weaklink, but Joe Root and the England camp understand his value and importance, and he will always get picked in such conditions whenever he is fit.

Go back and read my post again. I said 'weakling' NOT 'weaklink'.

You've wasted your essay.

 

[Manunited18]

Ok, confirmed now.

Will be the team I posted above, but Woakes playing instead of the rested Anderson.

Buttler also rested. Archer injured. Bess dropped.

Olly Stone likely to be 12th man.

I'd play olly stone, a genuine fast bowler can take the pitch out of the equation.

 

[Bilal_103]

Go back and read my post again. I said 'weakling' NOT 'weaklink'.

You've wasted your essay.

mehr ko mujrim bana diya lol

 

[Last Monetarist]

I'm not pleased to see Bess dropped given that Moeen has played no meaningful first-class cricket recently. It seems too much of a risk to go with Moeen as a frontline spinner under the circumstances.

 

[Manunited18]

I'm not pleased to see Bess dropped given that Moeen has played no meaningful first-class cricket recently. It seems too much of a risk to go with Moeen as a frontline spinner under the circumstances.

Completely agree, I find this astonishing, Bess performance in the first innings actually set up the victory push!

 

[Last Monetarist]

Completely agree, I find this astonishing, Bess performance in the first innings actually set up the victory push!

Yes, his wickets in the first-innings, even if a couple were gifted to rank bad balls, were crucial to restricting India under 400. It seems unnecessarily harsh to drop him just because he is still learning how to bowl in Asia. Maybe there's an element of fatigue that we are not aware of, as Bess has played 3 tests on the trot.

 

[Manunited18]

Yes possibly he could be tired, but the players have had a 4 day rest and he's a spinner , I'm also dissapointed Stones not getting his chance, like for like replacement for Archer I would have thought.

 

[Robert]

Yes, his wickets in the first-innings, even if a couple were gifted to rank bad balls, were crucial to restricting India under 400. It seems unnecessarily harsh to drop him just because he is still learning how to bowl in Asia. Maybe there's an element of fatigue that we are not aware of, as Bess has played 3 tests on the trot.

He bowled an awful lot of full tosses, about seventeen and it is possible that Kohli got into his head a bit on the last day.

Looks like....

Burns
Sibley
Lawrence
Root
Stokes
Foakes (w)
Moeen
Woakes
Broad
Leach

 

[HitWicket]

He bowled an awful lot of full tosses, about seventeen and it is possible that Kohli got into his head a bit on the last day.

Looks like....

Burns
Sibley
Lawrence
Root
Stokes
Foakes (w)
Moeen
Woakes
Broad
Leach

I reckon they'll go Stone over Woakes.

 

[Manunited18]

He bowled an awful lot of full tosses, about seventeen and it is possible that Kohli got into his head a bit on the last day.

Looks like....

Burns
Sibley
Lawrence
Root
Stokes
Foakes (w)
Moeen
Woakes
Broad
Leach

I'm not buying into that, bess has been very impressive irrespective of a few full tosses Here and there, also moeen has not played no competitive cricket for months, there s a good chance he could serve alot filth also!

 

[MenInG]

India Test vice-captain Ajinkya Rahane expects the Chepauk pitch to offer serious turn from the very first day of the second Test against England when his team would bid to level the four-match series and remain in contention for the World Test Championship final. India lost the first Test by 227 runs on a deck that didn't have anything for bowlers while the fresh pitch, with a darker and drier look, promises to be a spinners' paradise in the game starting Saturday.

"Yeah, it looks completely different. I am sure it will turn from day 1 but again as I have said before the first Test match, you have to wait and see how it plays in the first session and take it from there on," Rahane said at the pre match virtual conference on Friday.

"...but yeah we have to forget what happened in the first Test. We know these conditions really well and we have to put our best foot forward tomorrow and yeah that's it," Virat Kohli's deputy added.

Despite hinting that left-arm spin bowling all-rounder Axar Patel is available for selection, Rahane didn't divulge the playing XI.

"Everyone is in the mix and good thing is Axar is fit and I am not going to tell you who is going to play tomorrow. See all our spinners are really good and given a chance they will all do really well," Rahane kept cards close to his chest.

He also defended the spinners' performance in the first Test and said that their first innings form wasn't something that the team was overtly concerned about.

"If you see the first two days, there was nothing for our spinners and fast bowlers. Considering we bowled 190 overs and they scored 578 runs, I thought we really bowled well.

"There was nothing on that wicket. If you see second innings, all our spinners, especially Ashwin bowled really well. We are not too concerned about how our spinners are bowling and I am sure we will come out with a plan."

About the 27 no balls and 31 dropped catches since the epic Australia series win, Rahane said that the issues remain a work in progress.

"We are really working hard on what we can control. In India, close-in catches are really important and sometimes these things happen. No one does it intentionally, it's all about how confident you are. Close in catches are really important."

"About, no balls, yes we all were disappointed about the no balls and they are working really hard."

NDTV

 

[MenInG]

https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/2024467/england-name-squad-for-second-india-test


England Men have named a 12-strong squad for the second Test against India starting in Chennai on Saturday.

Captain Joe Root will confirm the side at the toss, with the Three Lions 1-0 up in the four-match series following victory by 227 runs in the first Test.

England squad for second Test: Joe Root (c), Moeen Ali, Stuart Broad, Rory Burns, Ben Foakes (w), Dan Lawrence, Jack Leach, Ollie Pope, Dom Sibley, Ben Stokes, Olly Stone, Chris Woakes.

 

[Manunited18]

The pitch in the first test resembled a perfect test wicket, spin, assistance for seamers, good for batting once a player got in , really do hope we don't get a substandard test wicket for the second test!

 

[James]

He bowled an awful lot of full tosses, about seventeen and it is possible that Kohli got into his head a bit on the last day.

Looks like....

Burns
Sibley
Lawrence
Root
Stokes
Foakes (w)
Moeen
Woakes
Broad
Leach

That (good) lineup could do with some jazzier names:

Excellent
The Domster
Lawrence of Arabia
Rooooooooot*
The Red Dragon
The Pontiff
The Beard
Foakesy+
The Wizard
Draco Malfoy
Specsavers

 

[MenInG]

pitch pic

 

[Extra_Cover]

Wow that looks like a day 3 pitch already.

 

[Pakhs]

pitch pic

Looks like a day 3 pitch already India had no choice this is typical of what India have done over the last few years if in doubt make a turning pitch. There was no way they would serve England the same pitch as first test match.

Dhoni and Kohli era is defined by these kind of pitches.

 

[Gullycricket]

And people were like India produces sporting pitches except few here and there. Truth is they produce sporting pitches when they are sure of winning. Otherwise they resort to these cheap tactics. Pitch fixing is what Kohli and Shastri will be remembered for.

 

[Stewie]

Well that didn’t take long!

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Everything will look like a nail to guy with a hammer.

While i am not happy with a rank turner (if this turns out to be one), one has to understand that limitations of Chennai pitch and what can be done to make it sporting in such a short period of time.

Ideally a pitch favoring pacers and spinners is the best bet for India.

But thats too much nuance for some folks who would like to fall for rhetorics.

If ppers had their way, Indian pitches would be like UAE....

Thanks but no thanks.

Our pitches have worked for us and helped our team go from strength to strength.

If India lose, they lose.

Rather lose on a pitch which eliminates toss than make fatties to please some ppers kn whats fair and whats not.

 

[wrongun]

Whatever happened to wood I remember he used to crank it up couple years back

He missed the initial squad to try and give him a break from bubble life & keep him fresh for the white ball cricket.

I think he is now been called up t0 get ready in case he is needed and will be available for the 3rd Test. So they see him and Archer as "express" bowlers on a like for like replacement.

 

[wrongun]

He missed the initial squad to try and give him a break from bubble life & keep him fresh for the white ball cricket.

I think he is now been called up t0 get ready in case he is needed and will be available for the 3rd Test. So they see him and Archer as "express" bowlers on a like for like replacement.

Apologies- that was for the last tour. Not sure about this tour but maybe still for white ball cricket.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

If it's a turner, would it not be better to go in with Kuldeep? He spins it both ways, has decent control, and can be used as an attacking option.

If Axar is looking good in the nets, and if his bowling is also good after that knee injury, it would be wise to play him ahead of Washington Sundar.

You have Ashwin, Axar, and Kuldeep, you have a lot of variety in the spin attack without compromising too much on the batting.

In that case, the team could be structured like:

Rohit Sharma
Shubman Gill
Cheteshwar Pujara
Virat Kohli
Ajinkya Rahane
Rishabh Pant
Axar Patel
Ravichandran Ashwin
Kuldeep Yadav
Jasprit Bumrah
Mohammad Siraj

It depends on how many runs Axar makes, if Axar can make the runs and bowl well, then you guys won't miss Jadeja too much. However, if Axar doesn't make the runs, the tail becomes very long, and so that's the only questionmark present.

The point with Kuldeep's selection is that if there's spin, I'd say he can rip through the opposition quite well. However, being a wrist spinner, he won't offer you the same amount of control as someone like Ashwin will, so expect him to maybe go at 3.7 or 4 RPO.

Either option could really work, but I just felt like Shahbaz Nadeem's finger spin wasn't really threatening at all to the English batsmen, and a chinaman like Kuldeep brings more variety and attacking options into play.

They have gone with your lineup, mate.

Siraj had to come for Bumrah who is rested.

It's an aggressive call and I can see why they went for it.

Just a touch concerned about batting (never thought Rohit would play such a wonderul knock today haha) but then Kuldeep can be a match winner.

 

[UzmanBeast]

They have gone with your lineup, mate.

Siraj had to come for Bumrah who is rested.

It's an aggressive call and I can see why they went for it.

Just a touch concerned about batting (never thought Rohit would play such a wonderul knock today haha) but then Kuldeep can be a match winner.

Kuldeep will put his all into this match, probably the last opportunity he has to show a performance to get into the side on a permanent basis.

If Rohit stays there for long, you could put up around 500 or so, and that would leave England out of the game. They'd be playing for a draw then.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Looks like a day 3 pitch already India had no choice this is typical of what India have done over the last few years if in doubt make a turning pitch. There was no way they would serve England the same pitch as first test match.

Dhoni and Kohli era is defined by these kind of pitches.

And people were like India produces sporting pitches except few here and there. Truth is they produce sporting pitches when they are sure of winning. Otherwise they resort to these cheap tactics. Pitch fixing is what Kohli and Shastri will be remembered for.

India’s sovereignty cannot be compromised. External forces can be spectators but not participants.
Indians know India and should decide for India. Let's remain united as a nation.
#IndiaTogether
#IndiaAgainstPropaganda

 

[Ab Fan]

They have gone with your lineup, mate.

Siraj had to come for Bumrah who is rested.

It's an aggressive call and I can see why they went for it.

Just a touch concerned about batting (never thought Rohit would play such a wonderul knock today haha) but then Kuldeep can be a match winner.

I actually thought Ishant will be the one to be rested. He can be lethal in pink ball test but not sure about this test wicket. Bumrah is good but he does not add anything special for the pink ball test.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Looks like they simply poured a few inches of powdered dust to make this surface.

What a shame!

 

[BigShak]

Great pitch. Got to love a filthy turner.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Well that didn’t take long!

So laughable when you consider how many Indian fans jumped down my throat when I suggested that India would resort to spinning tracks to win against England. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but why get so defensive over a home advantage? Obviously you don't want to go head to head with England's seamers on a sporting track.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

So laughable when you consider how many Indian fans jumped down my throat when I suggested that India would resort to spinning tracks to win against England. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but why get so defensive over a home advantage? Obviously you don't want to go head to head with England's seamers on a sporting track.

Indian fans are guilty of getting defensive over rank turner. They need to get over that.

But there is nothing defensive about calling out untrue statements.

You are a long term poster who knows the history.

India is not afraid to give a "sporting" wicket to England.

Why this pitch turned is simple and something which can be easily grasped if we just look at the sequence of events that happened before.

 

[Mamoon]

Any result-oriented pitch is a “sporting” wicket. England had no answer to Rohit and they didn’t bat well.

No need to whine about the pitch. Focus on your performance.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Indian fans are guilty of getting defensive over rank turner. They need to get over that.

But there is nothing defensive about calling out untrue statements.

You are a long term poster who knows the history.

India is not afraid to give a "sporting" wicket to England.

Why this pitch turned is simple and something which can be easily grasped if we just look at the sequence of events that happened before.

I don't know the history, I don't follow Indian cricket, the only history I know is that the subcontinent produces low, turning wickets and India's advantage has always been to prepare turning wickets against western teams. Nothing wrong with that. Just don't know why I got so much flak for saying this in the pre-series thread.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I don't know the history, I don't follow Indian cricket, the only history I know is that the subcontinent produces low, turning wickets and India's advantage has always been to prepare turning wickets against western teams. Nothing wrong with that. Just don't know why I got so much flak for saying this in the pre-series thread.

Thats the problem buddy.

India doesn't give slow and low wickets these days.

Its rare. And surely not a strategy right now as opposed to 5 years back.

The ONLY reason Chennai was asked to be made into a turner was because the pitch otherwise was a patta and that made toss a big factor.

2016 England tour...we served them 4 flat tracks (including one in Chennai) and Mumbai turner. We lost all tosses too. Still won 4-0.

The last time we got a serious turner in India was in 2017 during Aus tour. Even in that series, the games were turner, turner, dead & pacy track.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Must just have been a lucky guess on my part then. Still it will get India back into the series so a lucky coincidence for them as well.

 

[Zaz]

The pitch doctored again Fair play to india They know theyd get beat on a fair track like the last game

Indian fans needs to stop getting defensive and just put their hands up they cant beat most teams on fair tracks

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Must just have been a lucky guess on my part then. Still it will get
India back into the series so a lucky coincidence for them as well.

As you said nothing wrong with rank turners.

Its just that India ain't good at them. Rohit saved us.

----

Problem with this issue is posters like below.

No hope for them

I wish I had this level of confidence in life.

If India were any good in turners, I would hope for Ahmedabad to be a rank turner just to see their reactions.

The pitch doctored again Fair play to india They know theyd get beat on a fair track like the last game

Indian fans needs to stop getting defensive and just put their hands up they cant beat most teams on fair tracks

 

[Rajdeep]

The pitch doctored again Fair play to india They know theyd get beat on a fair track like the last game

Indian fans needs to stop getting defensive and just put their hands up they cant beat most teams on fair tracks

Yes India beat a full strength Australia in Australia...beat them in Gabba where they were unbeaten for 43 years BUT cant beat Eng at home without turning track. LOL.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Lol this team just won at the Gabba, MCG and drew a test at the SCG but cant win on "sporting" tracks apparently.

 

[Mamoon]

The pitch doctored again Fair play to india They know theyd get beat on a fair track like the last game

Indian fans needs to stop getting defensive and just put their hands up they cant beat most teams on fair tracks

They beat England 4-0 on “fair tracks” in 2016, they have won back to back series in Australia on the same “fair tracks” where a certain legendary and talented team have lost every single match since 1999.

India is a phenomenal team and they will not raise their hands and admit to myths and fantasies just because bitter Pakistani fans want them to.

India would have won the first Test had they won the toss. The pitch broke up later on and England wouldn’t have survived against Ashwin.

Similarly, England could have been in a dominant position in this match had they batted first, and then people wouldn’t be moaning about the pitch.

The formula is simple: when India wins, it is because of the pitch; when India loses, it is because they are poor.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Yes India beat a full strength Australia in Australia...beat them in Gabba where they were unbeaten for 43 years BUT cant beat Eng at home without turning track. LOL.

Aussies are a lot weaker team at this time than England to be fair.

 

[Hasan123]

The pitch doctored again Fair play to india They know theyd get beat on a fair track like the last game

Indian fans needs to stop getting defensive and just put their hands up they cant beat most teams on fair tracks

You must not watch games in India. As sensible-indian-fan has explained the pitches haven't often been rank turners.

 

[Hasan123]

Aussies are a lot weaker team at this time than England to be fair.

Same Australia who drew in England and beat them at home lol.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Aussies are a lot weaker team at this time than England to be fair.

Lol. And this is based on what?

 

[Hasan123]

Lol. And this is based on what?

The fact that he needs to downplay anything India achieve.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

They beat England 4-0 on “fair tracks” in 2016, they have won back to back series in Australia on the same “fair tracks” where a certain legendary and talented team have lost every single match since 1999.

India is a phenomenal team and they will not raise their hands and admit to myths and fantasies just because bitter Pakistani fans want them to.

India would have won the first Test had they won the toss. The pitch broke up later on and England wouldn’t have survived against Ashwin.

Similarly, England could have been in a dominant position in this match had they batted first, and then people wouldn’t be moaning about the pitch.

The formula is simple: when India wins, it is because of the pitch; when India loses, it is because they are poor.

And if India picked wickets cos the wickets aided everyone from the first ball....you know how the script will play out.

It's not even ignorance. The audacity is something else....

I would cringe to downplay Pakistan if they had won in Aus and faced a turner at home.

 

[Mamoon]

And if India picked wickets cos the wickets aided everyone from the first ball....you know how the script will play out.

It's not even ignorance. The audacity is something else....

I would cringe to downplay Pakistan if they had won in Aus and faced a turner at home.

Back in 2016-17 when Kohli had an unreal patch and was hitting a double-ton every series and Ashwin-Jadeja were running through lineups, Kohli’s runs were downplayed because he was scoring on “flat pitches” and Ashwin-Jadeja’s wickets were downplayed because they were taking wickets on “turning pitches”.

That was some amazing 4D chess by the usual suspects.

 

[Mesozoic]

back in 2016-17 when kohli had an unreal patch and was hitting a double-ton every series and ashwin-jadeja were running through lineups, kohli’s runs were downplayed because he was scoring on “flat pitches” and ashwin-jadeja’s wickets were downplayed because they were taking wickets on “turning pitches”.

That was some amazing 4d chess by the usual suspects.

lmao

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Back in 2016-17 when Kohli had an unreal patch and was hitting a double-ton every series and Ashwin-Jadeja were running through lineups, Kohli’s runs were downplayed because he was scoring on “flat pitches” and Ashwin-Jadeja’s wickets were downplayed because they were taking wickets on “turning pitches”.

That was some amazing 4D chess by the usual suspects.

I remember those days dude. )

Hilarious stuff.

As crazy as that was, what's happening now is next level stuff. Haha.

I wonder what is running in their minds.

Some real cognitive dissonance must be going on.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Back in 2016-17 when Kohli had an unreal patch and was hitting a double-ton every series and Ashwin-Jadeja were running through lineups, Kohli’s runs were downplayed because he was scoring on “flat pitches” and Ashwin-Jadeja’s wickets were downplayed because they were taking wickets on “turning pitches”.

That was some amazing 4D chess by the usual suspects.

To add to this:
This will suddenly become an important series if Kohli fails in this but 2016 eng series wasn't important bcoz kohli scored big.
The headline will be : Kohli has failed in all 4 important series he played in India.

 

[Devadwal]

The pitch doctored again Fair play to india They know theyd get beat on a fair track like the last game

Indian fans needs to stop getting defensive and just put their hands up they cant beat most teams on fair tracks

We recently beat full strength Australia in Australia, Pakistanis fans only see their team winning in Australia in their dream . enough

 

[HitWicket]

I'm of the opinion that this is a poor pitch given the ball was breaking through the surface back on day 1, doesn't take anything away from India though.

 

[Bewal Express]

This is a terrible pitch. If England had won the toss, Ind would be staring at going 2-0.

 

[lahoriyah1234]

We recently beat full strength Australia in Australia, Pakistanis fans only see their team winning in Australia in their dream . enough

IPL contract nahi chaiye Aussies ko. Enough said .

 

[Raja111]

Fair pitch I would say..
You get either no turn for the entire test match or turn from ball 1.
It takes toss out of the equation.

 

[Pakhs]

India’s sovereignty cannot be compromised. External forces can be spectators but not participants.
Indians know India and should decide for India. Let's remain united as a nation.
#IndiaTogether
#IndiaAgainstPropaganda

Whats your point? I am not deciding anything for India...

 

[Mesozoic]

India are 330 (could easily have been 400+ if we had a competent tail) and 54/1.....

That is as sporting as it gets. People who are calling this a "terrible" wicket should go back and watch the 2015 series against SAF to know what rank turners actually look like. You can easily score runs on this wicket if you get your eye in and have a decent enounce technique against spin like Rohit, Rahane and even Foakes showed.

Anyone who says otherwise is just salty that their beloved England got shot out for 130 and watered down their hopes of an Indian defeat.

 

[Mesozoic]

IPL contract nahi chaiye Aussies ko. Enough said .

Aussies are proud sportsmen.

They won't ever sell their country for $$$......

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Aussies are proud sportsmen.

They won't ever sell their country for $$$......

 

[shamaan]

Poor pitch root and Moen turning the ball....

 

[Mesozoic]

Didn't sell his country. Try again. : :

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Didn't sell his country. Try again. : :

Did I say anything lol?

 

[Mesozoic]

Did I say anything lol?

Sure.

 

[Mesozoic]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have no problem at all with a pitch offering this much spin (hardly a surprise naturally). We prepare green pitches to suit our bowlers at home when deemed necessary so it’s fair game. We should be taking notes on how to excel from <a href="https://twitter.com/ImRo45?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImRo45</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RishabhPant17?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RishabhPant17</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/ashwinravi99?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ashwinravi99</a></p>— Graeme Swann (@Swannyg66) <a href="https://twitter.com/Swannyg66/status/1360930016712876032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>




But but but...muh pitch phixing..

 

[Pakhs]

India are 330 (could easily have been 400+ if we had a competent tail) and 54/1.....

That is as sporting as it gets. People who are calling this a "terrible" wicket should go back and watch the 2015 series against SAF to know what rank turners actually look like. You can easily score runs on this wicket if you get your eye in and have a decent enounce technique against spin like Rohit, Rahane and even Foakes showed.

Anyone who says otherwise is just salty that their beloved England got shot out for 130 and watered down their hopes of an Indian defeat.

This is a turning pitch and even the likes of Root and M Ali is turning the ball. The pitch is designed to heighten Indian advantage following the first test defeat. I dont want to go into argument that other teams also prepare green pitch etc that a different topic.

 

[princeuk]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have no problem at all with a pitch offering this much spin (hardly a surprise naturally). We prepare green pitches to suit our bowlers at home when deemed necessary so it’s fair game. We should be taking notes on how to excel from <a href="https://twitter.com/ImRo45?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImRo45</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RishabhPant17?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RishabhPant17</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/ashwinravi99?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ashwinravi99</a></p>— Graeme Swann (@Swannyg66) <a href="https://twitter.com/Swannyg66/status/1360930016712876032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>




But but but...muh pitch phixing..

but but but look at comments from other players also rather than just swann, look at what Michale Vaughan has to say, look at what Mark Waugh has to say, this is a poor excuse of a pitch, clearly under pressure after losing the first test.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

This is a turning pitch and even the likes of Root and M Ali is turning the ball. The pitch is designed to heighten Indian advantage following the first test defeat. I dont want to go into argument that other teams also prepare green pitch etc that a different topic.

Yeah.....so whats the issue here?

 

[Pakhs]

Yeah.....so whats the issue here?

Issue is that for me this is doctoring and people here denying that it is not... I am not against it but most Indian fans here deny that they need this advantage to win at home easily because reality is that as soon as they are trouble at home they doctor the pitch for next time... Again no issue in that but dont deny it as if we are stupid and cant see straight

 

[JaDed]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have no problem at all with a pitch offering this much spin (hardly a surprise naturally). We prepare green pitches to suit our bowlers at home when deemed necessary so it’s fair game. We should be taking notes on how to excel from <a href="https://twitter.com/ImRo45?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImRo45</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RishabhPant17?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RishabhPant17</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/ashwinravi99?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ashwinravi99</a></p>— Graeme Swann (@Swannyg66) <a href="https://twitter.com/Swannyg66/status/1360930016712876032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>




But but but...muh pitch phixing..

Lol ofcourse we need English validation for our pitches.

 

[JaDed]

We have debated time and again on this topic, most posters will downplay Indian batting and bowing on the same pitch, lets move on and just hope our team qualifies for World
championship.. thats all that matters.