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Which will be the top party after the upcoming general elections?

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Asim_khan said:
It's a shame, cos I was really impressed with him when Musharraf had his power struggle against the judiciary, PPP really have messed up going the dynastic route instead of having the most able lead them.
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PPP has seem seriously competent people onboard, but unfortunately they have turned into a dynastic party.
 
Varun said:
For the better, as long as he can keep the military establishment in check.
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I disagree... with Imran I feel Pak-India relations will further deteriorate. Keep in mind Nawaz Sharif is the most pro-India PM in our history, he has not said even one word against India in his tenure. Even invited Modi to his granddaughters wedding.


Imran won't be like that. Imran will say it as it is and won't mince his words - whether India likes it or not. This will obviously lead to a war of words and further erosion of ties between the sides. Modi is very anti-Pakistan and from what you guys tell us he is set to be re-elected in 2019 with even more seats.
 
Secret meeting between Nawaz and Modi in London.... Yeh mota mulk baich kay hi chain lehga [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]
 
Syed1 said:
Secret meeting between Nawaz and Modi in London.... Yeh mota mulk baich kay hi chain lehga [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]
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I heard Shahbaz is also leaving for London tomorrow. Ab pata nae inki konsi new khichri paqne ja rahi phrse.
 
Syed1 said:
Modi is very anti-Pakistan and from what you guys tell us he is set to be re-elected in 2019 with even more seats.
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Not happening. Most likely a hung parliament.
 
I think people are being overly optimistic here. After last time I'm being very very cautious..the sharifs have a mafia that works for them in the pinds and small towns in Punjab. I still cant see PTI making any inroads there..Interior Sindh is PPP wadera land so nothing there..at best it will probably be a coalition govt but whats the point of that? PTI will get neutered and we may have another snap election in a year or two for IK to get rid of the coalition...
 
Also Kaira is from Lalamusa / kharian and everyone in the area knows he's as corrupt as the next man..

as for Aitzaz Ahasen. I hope Chaudhry sahib stays well clear of the PTI we can do without traitors like him...
 
the Great Khan said:
Also Kaira is from Lalamusa / kharian and everyone in the area knows he's as corrupt as the next man..

as for Aitzaz Ahasen. I hope Chaudhry sahib stays well clear of the PTI we can do without traitors like him...
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There are many that say that he is clean, what is the truth?
 
Adijazz1706 said:
Then who will hang the Parliament? Modi will win imo, and India will dive deeper in all social indices :((
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I don't think you understand how a hung parliament works. In 2014, everything went perfectly for the BJP and against the Congress, and the BJP managed to get 284 seats for themselves - when 272 is needed for a majority.

This time around, all their allies (TDP, Shiv Sena) have ditched them and they will struggle to get to 250 seats by most estimates. The Congress is nowhere to be seen, and yet the BJP can't make a government: that is called a hung parliament. The party will then be hostage to Mayawati / Mamata and fireworks will ensue.

As for India falling further in social indices, let it.
 
Now this is some shocking stuff PTI gaining 24% popularity in Larkana according to Habib Akram survey in the fortress of Bhuttos! I know PTI will not be able to win more than a couple of seats from interior Sindh but they are seriously gaining some popularity there as a party which is shocking.

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73% people of Islamabad think Asad Umar will be able to win his seat from Islamabad again. Remember this is the urban islamabad seat.

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39% people think Dr Alvi of PTI will again win his seat. Shocked to see MQM at number 3?

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Another shocking result is PTI is still 67% popular on Swat seat of Murad Saeed? He hardly did anything in the constituency and was siting Islamabad most of the time while Amir Maqam was spending federal funds there. So maybe the vote bank there is of positive PTI govt policies instead of Murad Saeed? In any case PTI should give the ticket to someone else there.

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Mian said:
Another shocking result is PTI is still 67% popular on Swat seat of Murad Saeed? He hardly did anything in the constituency and was siting Islamabad most of the time while Amir Maqam was spending federal funds there. So maybe the vote bank there is of positive PTI govt policies instead of Murad Saeed? In any case PTI should give the ticket to someone else there.

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Why is that? I thought Murad Saeed was one of the good ones amongst the young cadre of PTI.... Definitely future party secretary general material.
 
Looks like JUIF lost ground in conservative bannu district and ex CM durrani seat is in danger.

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Syed1 said:
Why is that? I thought Murad Saeed was one of the good ones amongst the young cadre of PTI.... Definitely future party secretary general material.
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He wasn't seen in his constituency most of the time and was only busy doing tv shows on Bol News sitting in Islamabad. Talked to some of the guys from Swat and they were really unhappy with him but overall they were satisfied with PTI govt policies in KP. Before becoming youngest MNA in our history he built ISF (Insaf Stduent Federation) in KP. In my personal opinion he should have been MPA instead of MNA that way he had more chances of doing something as a young provincial minister just like Atif and Shahram they did wonders.
 
Mian said:
Looks like JUIF lost ground in conservative bannu district and ex CM durrani seat is in danger.

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Watch the latest Habib Akram video on Hyderabad... Seems like MQM has like 80% support :facepalm:



I'm not a fan of this journalist due to his lifafa tendencies but he is doing a good job of going city by city and guaging the political temperature. I want to see him do some surveys in undroon Punjab. That is where central governments are won or lost.
 
Syed1 said:
Watch the latest Habib Akram video on Hyderabad... Seems like MQM has like 80% support :facepalm:



I'm not a fan of this journalist due to his lifafa tendencies but he is doing a good job of going city by city and guaging the political temperature. I want to see him do some surveys in undroon Punjab. That is where central governments are won or lost.
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He did some shows in central punjab and according to him corruption wahaan ki awaam ka masla he nae hai vote nawaz ka he hai :yk hum south and north punjaab waale victim hen thanks to this central punjab jaahilon wala mindset humaare sath bilkul wese ho raha he jese Sindh main karachi ke sath.
 
Mian said:
73% people of Islamabad think Asad Umar will be able to win his seat from Islamabad again. Remember this is the urban islamabad seat.

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Asad Umar is going to run on NA-53, the one which is a mix of urban and rural.
 
Mian said:
Now this is some shocking stuff PTI gaining 24% popularity in Larkana according to Habib Akram survey in the fortress of Bhuttos! I know PTI will not be able to win more than a couple of seats from interior Sindh but they are seriously gaining some popularity there as a party which is shocking.

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From what I gather on the ground, PTIs votebank in Sindh is 90% students and young people. The younger generations are realizing the damage PPP have done, but unfortunately the older generation are still loyal to PPP.
 
Mian said:
NA-48 is the new NA-53 if i am not wrong? 54 and 55 are the other 2 Isb seats?
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Yes, but Asad Umar is running on NA-54. Because NA-53 is almost a sure win for PTI as it is completely in urban Islamabad in areas with strong PTI support. NA-52 is almost totally rural, the most difficult one to win. NA-53 is somewhere where PTI can win if they work hard as it is part urban, part rural, hence why Asad Umar is running from there...
 
hussain.r97 said:
Yes, but Asad Umar is running on NA-54. Because NA-53 is almost a sure win for PTI as it is completely in urban Islamabad in areas with strong PTI support. NA-52 is almost totally rural, the most difficult one to win. NA-53 is somewhere where PTI can win if they work hard as it is part urban, part rural, hence why Asad Umar is running from there...
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Sorry I messed it up haha. NA 54 is the new NA 48. Asad Umar is running on NA 53 I mean! NA 52, 53, 54 are the Islamabad seats. [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]
 
hussain.r97 said:
From what I gather on the ground, PTIs votebank in Sindh is 90% students and young people. The younger generations are realizing the damage PPP have done, but unfortunately the older generation are still loyal to PPP.
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Thats great and its only gonna force PPP to change their way of work which is great for democracy otherwise they had no competition at all.
 
hussain.r97 said:
Sorry I messed it up haha. NA 54 is the new NA 48. Asad Umar is running on NA 53 I mean! NA 52, 53, 54 are the Islamabad seats. [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]
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What are the chances of PTI gaining Khokhar group support? They can help PTI
 
In drawing room politics, people are starting to believe that PTI will get just enough seats to form a coalition government.
 
waqar goraya said:
In drawing room politics, people are starting to believe that PTI will get just enough seats to form a coalition government.
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PMLQ, PSP, MQM, BAP these parties should get enough seats to help PTI coalition govt because i cant see PPP, ANP, JUIF sitting with them
 
Syed1 said:
I disagree... with Imran I feel Pak-India relations will further deteriorate. Keep in mind Nawaz Sharif is the most pro-India PM in our history, he has not said even one word against India in his tenure. Even invited Modi to his granddaughters wedding.


Imran won't be like that. Imran will say it as it is and won't mince his words - whether India likes it or not. This will obviously lead to a war of words and further erosion of ties between the sides. Modi is very anti-Pakistan and from what you guys tell us he is set to be re-elected in 2019 with even more seats.
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This is one of the main thing I liked about Nawaz Sharif. One of the reason many Punjabi business class and whole eco system likes NS for 3 decades, is that he is pro business. Nawaz wanted to have business and trade relationship with India, Army has cut him in half twice for that... Most Pakistanis are brained washed by Army propaganda, its not like this propaganda is spread in open and free environment, most of it is spread through heavy military hand, lot of money, that ironically come form foreign sources(US, SA, now China, who all never wanted to deal with public opinion, Army is making life easy for them, like all those Arab dictators. It is much easier for foreigners to manipulate when they things happen behind the scene). This is a policy matter that should be in hand of politicians and debated in public, not something decided by Army :facepalm:


Imran Khan will be largely Army obedient servant, atleast in the first few years. He has not taken one policy stand that is not inline with Military establishment. This is not the sign of revolutionary leader, but rather more of the same of gazillion of Muslim Leagues we have seen in 100+ years, who were always in bed with establishment :acp:
 
Was watching a survey video of NA-128 of Lahore, in 2013 the Noon guy won with around 114,000 votes. Most of those surveyed said they will still vote for Noon league. At the end of the video they showed a statistic that of all those asked, 41% said they will vote for Noon and 33% said PTI. You can search for that video on Youtube "RTI TV". Some respondents said that Nawaz is clean and all these cases against him are fake. Some accepted he is corrupt but still the best option. Others said they will still vote for him even if he is in jail - height of personality worship.


The results seem about right. Very hard for PTI to win from areas like Lahore or Faisalabad. Best bet is KPK, Karachi, Northern and Southern Punjab.
 
Syed1 said:
Was watching a survey video of NA-128 of Lahore, in 2013 the Noon guy won with around 114,000 votes. Most of those surveyed said they will still vote for Noon league. At the end of the video they showed a statistic that of all those asked, 41% said they will vote for Noon and 33% said PTI. You can search for that video on Youtube "RTI TV". Some respondents said that Nawaz is clean and all these cases against him are fake. Some accepted he is corrupt but still the best option. Others said they will still vote for him even if he is in jail - height of personality worship.


The results seem about right. Very hard for PTI to win from areas like Lahore or Faisalabad. Best bet is KPK, Karachi, Northern and Southern Punjab.
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900 khata he to 100 lagata be to he mindset. Still i think PTI can do good in lahore where they already have one mna and 4/5 sitting mpa. Aleem khan by election was also neck and neck and dr yasmeen wasn't bad too. Pmln won 2 mna seats because of rigging ayaz sadiq, khawaja saad. How can Irman Khan lose to Ayaz Sadiq in GE when Aleem Khan in a by election had neck and neck fight with same guy with all the govt resources in hand?
 
Syed2015 said:
My personal current estimates would be something like this:

PML(N): 90-100
PTI:50-60
PPP:30-40

Though with the imminent conviction of NS and a potential exodus of electables from N-League things may change a lot.
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After having watched Habib Akrams recent survey from Lahore im gonna stick with this prediction for now. PMLNs votebank doesnt seem to have taken much of a hit. People seemed quite happy with their roads and flyovers.

I know gauging the complete election result by one survey from one constituency isnt very smart but while watching the survey one could easily identify the type of people that are supporting PMLN and PTI. While most PMLN looked like uneducated labourers (not trying to generalize all PMLN supporters here) the bulk of the PTI supporters looked more like educated people who were able to explain there reason of voting PTI in detail. Now considering the fact the former type of people are in the majority and no further electable seems to be leaving PMLN i think its save to say PMLN is gonna go as favourites into the next elections, unless something big is happening.
 
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Syed1 said:
Was watching a survey video of NA-128 of Lahore, in 2013 the Noon guy won with around 114,000 votes. Most of those surveyed said they will still vote for Noon league. At the end of the video they showed a statistic that of all those asked, 41% said they will vote for Noon and 33% said PTI. You can search for that video on Youtube "RTI TV". Some respondents said that Nawaz is clean and all these cases against him are fake. Some accepted he is corrupt but still the best option. Others said they will still vote for him even if he is in jail - height of personality worship.


The results seem about right. Very hard for PTI to win from areas like Lahore or Faisalabad. Best bet is KPK, Karachi, Northern and Southern Punjab.
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This means this is going to be tough for Noon leak even in Lahore, despite all the development work being done there over past decade.
 
It will be much closer than last time in Punjab. However, PML N will take it once again, since Shehbaz Sharif will come to the fore (who has actually done some work in Lahore over the years) and use his CV to build on the vote bank.
 
waqar goraya said:
This means this is going to be tough for Noon leak even in Lahore, despite all the development work being done there over past decade.
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Aray nahi yaar... PTI will give them a run for their money. Will even reduce margin, but at the end Noon will win, unfortunately. That is all that matters.
 
If N league are not going to win some seats in Lahore then what are they going to win then?

It is premature to say that N league will win the next elections.
 
Syed2015 said:
After having watched Habib Akrams recent survey from Lahore im gonna stick with this prediction for now. PMLNs votebank doesnt seem to have taken much of a hit. People seemed quite happy with their roads and flyovers.

I know gauging the complete election result by one survey from one constituency isnt very smart but while watching the survey one could easily identify the type of people that are supporting PMLN and PTI. While most PMLN looked like uneducated labourers (not trying to generalize all PMLN supporters here) the bulk of the PTI supporters looked more like educated people who were able to explain there reason of voting PTI in detail. Now considering the fact the former type of people are in the majority and no further electable seems to be leaving PMLN i think its save to say PMLN is gonna go as favourites into the next elections, unless something big is happening.
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Central Punjab, Lahore, and Faisalabad are gonna be won by PML-N for sure, but the rest of their votebank (South and North Punjab) have been severely dented. PTI will most likely emerge as the largest party, but I have a deeling PML-N and PPP will form government together to keep PTI out.
 
waqar goraya said:
If N league are not going to win some seats in Lahore then what are they going to win then?

It is premature to say that N league will win the next elections.
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Their fortress is Gujranwala and Faisalabad. Their vote bank in Lahore was already dented in 2013 and than again we saw the results in by elections
 
I actually went through each and every NA seat, and it appears that PTI have taken on board many people who got a close second place all over Punjab. I don't see PML-N winning seats from South Punjab, South Punjab is going to be more between PTI and PPP, and PTI has the edge there. North Punjab is also leaning towards PTI very heavily. PML-N won't get more than 80 seats, and a large share of those seat will be from central Punjab.
 
Syed1 said:
Was watching a survey video of NA-128 of Lahore, in 2013 the Noon guy won with around 114,000 votes. Most of those surveyed said they will still vote for Noon league. At the end of the video they showed a statistic that of all those asked, 41% said they will vote for Noon and 33% said PTI. You can search for that video on Youtube "RTI TV". Some respondents said that Nawaz is clean and all these cases against him are fake. Some accepted he is corrupt but still the best option. Others said they will still vote for him even if he is in jail - height of personality worship.


The results seem about right. Very hard for PTI to win from areas like Lahore or Faisalabad. Best bet is KPK, Karachi, Northern and Southern Punjab.
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41% vs 33% doesn't seem too bad considering PMLN has spent billions on Lahore. Although you can't defeat the mentality of "Kuch khata hai tou lagata bhi hai" but it is still possible if Imran runs fierce campaign educating people how the corruption impacts their lives and development is NOT about roads and gutters.
I think the constituency you are talking about is NA129 where PTI candidate will be Waleed Iqbal (grandson of great Allama Iqbal).
Also, people are starting to believe that Imran Khan has a chance to win which will encourage them to actually vote (and not just support) Imran Khan.

Imran Khan is moving to his Zaman Park house in Lahore leaving Islamabad which means he plans to spend much more time in Lahore, will be great for campaign.
 
Syed2015 said:
After having watched Habib Akrams recent survey from Lahore im gonna stick with this prediction for now. PMLNs votebank doesnt seem to have taken much of a hit. People seemed quite happy with their roads and flyovers.

I know gauging the complete election result by one survey from one constituency isnt very smart but while watching the survey one could easily identify the type of people that are supporting PMLN and PTI. While most PMLN looked like uneducated labourers (not trying to generalize all PMLN supporters here) the bulk of the PTI supporters looked more like educated people who were able to explain there reason of voting PTI in detail. Now considering the fact the former type of people are in the majority and no further electable seems to be leaving PMLN i think its save to say PMLN is gonna go as favourites into the next elections, unless something big is happening.
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I can guess response of most people before they even name a party. PTI supporters mostly start with "Awaam main shaoor (awareness) nahi, education, health etc whereas PMLN supporters mostly talk about local roads and gutters.

One thing i NEVER understood, almost everyone says "Saara kaam tou Noon league hi karti hai", no anchors asks them who has been ruling Punjab for a decade now so how do they expect anyone other than PMLN to do work? How do you know PTI can't do any better?

Imran Khan must run a campaign to counter "Nawaz Sharif khata hai tou lagata bhi hai" and "PMLN hi kaam karti hai", these are 2 extremely lame but most common excuses.
 
One thing I noted is that many people are waiting for the accountability court judgement before deciding on who to vote, I think that is a bigger concern for Sharifs right now than the elections themselves.
 
Habib Akram went to Pano Aqil (a part of Sukkur) and did a survey of the people's mood. This is the constituency from where the leader of the opposition was elected. The result of the survey was very surprising for me.

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You might say what is surprising, PPP is favourite by an overwhelming majority, BUT PTI is placed at second number with 19% support and is a lot more popular than other established parties like Noon, Functional and JUI.


The results become even more surprising when you look at the results of the 2013 elections where PTI didn't even manage 1300 votes.

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Also there are many programs posted by obscure TV channels which do public surveys, I don't have the time to watch them all but I can list the youtube channels if people want.
 
I hope that PTI loses this election. Their senators sold their votes like every other party. They are taking those people into their party who are rotten to their core and are part of the system that has constantly disappointed the general public. CJ have exposed their performance in KP. And please don’t label me as a noora because I don’t like PML-N for different reasons. I hope that a religious party form an alliance and form a coalition government just so that our society loses its romantic notion of pious leaders with big beards and bigger bellies. I hope Khadim Rizvi becomes our prime minister so that we will get to know how a true Islamic state can properly function as a utopia and as a model of enlightenment.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
I hope that PTI loses this election. Their senators sold their votes like every other party. They are taking those people into their party who are rotten to their core and are part of the system that has constantly disappointed the general public. CJ have exposed their performance in KP. And please don’t label me as a noora because I don’t like PML-N for different reasons. I hope that a religious party form an alliance and form a coalition government just so that our society loses its romantic notion of pious leaders with big beards and bigger bellies. I hope Khadim Rizvi becomes our prime minister so that we will get to know how a true Islamic state can properly function as a utopia and as a model of enlightenment.
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Khadim Rizvi as PM :)))
 
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Khadim Rizvi as PM :)))
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On a more serious note, I’m predicting JI to win in KPK, PPP in Sindh and Balochistan, MQM-P in Karachi, PML-N in Northern and Central Punjab, PTI and PML-N strongly competing in Southern Punjab, and PPP, JI and PTI forming a coalition government.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
I hope that PTI loses this election. Their senators sold their votes like every other party. They are taking those people into their party who are rotten to their core and are part of the system that has constantly disappointed the general public. CJ have exposed their performance in KP. And please don’t label me as a noora because I don’t like PML-N for different reasons. I hope that a religious party form an alliance and form a coalition government just so that our society loses its romantic notion of pious leaders with big beards and bigger bellies. I hope Khadim Rizvi becomes our prime minister so that we will get to know how a true Islamic state can properly function as a utopia and as a model of enlightenment.
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I hope you were being sarcastic but you have every right to vote for whoever but can you enlighten me what Khadim Rizvi's policies are? Last time someone asked him what his solution to economic problems is, he said "Miracles" which is most ridiculous response to a very serious question.
I hope Khadim Rizvi's politics ends before it even starts as we can do much better without such people who spread nothing but hatred.

Also, your comments PTI senators selling their votes are quite amusing! It was MPAs who sold their votes to PPP senators.
 
Syed1 said:
Habib Akram went to Pano Aqil (a part of Sukkur) and did a survey of the people's mood. This is the constituency from where the leader of the opposition was elected. The result of the survey was very surprising for me.

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You might say what is surprising, PPP is favourite by an overwhelming majority, BUT PTI is placed at second number with 19% support and is a lot more popular than other established parties like Noon, Functional and JUI.


The results become even more surprising when you look at the results of the 2013 elections where PTI didn't even manage 1300 votes.

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Sindh right now is what Punjab was like last election, PTI coming second on almost every seat, and winning 2-3 seats. Expecting PTI to win from Tharparkar, Umerkot, and maybe a couple of seats in Urban interior Sindh.

It is mainly the younger generation supporting PTI.
 
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Angrez Pakistani said:
On a more serious note, I’m predicting JI to win in KPK, PPP in Sindh and Balochistan, MQM-P in Karachi, PML-N in Northern and Central Punjab, PTI and PML-N strongly competing in Southern Punjab, and PPP, JI and PTI forming a coalition government.
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If JI wins in KPK the shame on US Kpk people.
 
Waseem said:
I hope you were being sarcastic but you have every right to vote for whoever but can you enlighten me what Khadim Rizvi's policies are? Last time someone asked him what his solution to economic problems is, he said "Miracles" which is most ridiculous response to a very serious question.
I hope Khadim Rizvi's politics ends before it even starts as we can do much better without such people who spread nothing but hatred.

Also, your comments PTI senators selling their votes are quite amusing! It was MPAs who sold their votes to PPP senators.
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All I was insinuating was that people like Khadim Rizvi exist in every nook and cranny of our society. People are being taught to hate Hindus in school through Pakistan Studies books in the name of two nation theory. People being taught to hate the people of other faiths and are being told that the rest of the work is our enemy and it is on to us to fight against them. We are being constantly divided on the lines of our race, language, culture and ethnicities. So it only makes sense for the people to vote for someone like Khadim Rizvi who is the perfect embodiment of our society’s collective failure.
As far as PTI’s MPAs, instead of their senators, selling their votes is concerned, what difference does it make to make a distinction. The fact still remains that the politicians belonging from PTI sold their votes, that too to the PPP candidate.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
It’s just that the people of KPK don’t re-elect the incumbent government very often, so the next strong candidate is the JI alliance. I can also be wrong but this is how I see the electoral pattern.
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That alliance is mostly JUIF and JI is not that strong in KP like JUIF. So even if that alliance wins mostly JUIF will form the goverment with 2 or 3 JI ministers like back in 2002.
 
Mian said:
That alliance is mostly JUIF and JI is not that strong in KP like JUIF. So even if that alliance wins mostly JUIF will form the goverment with 2 or 3 JI ministers like back in 2002.
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But JI is still part of that alliance.
 
Unconfirmed information from the ground:

PTI Candidates

NA-247 - Imran Khan
PS - 101/102 - Arsalan Ghumman/Alamgir Khan
 
Mian said:
39% people think Dr Alvi of PTI will again win his seat. Shocked to see MQM at number 3?

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PTI are in serious danger of losing this seat, they are much safer in the Karachi East seats.

The issue is that PTI councillors were elected from DHA and Clifton, and PPP councillors were elected from places like Kalapul, Railway Colony, Hazara Colony, Dehli Colony, etc.

PPP councillors have done a lot of work in their areas, while PTI councillors did nothing special. DHA and Clifton voters will stick with PTI, but the part of the constituency outside of those two areas are turning against PTI, and it shows in this poll. On top of that, PTI have not really started campaigning heavily enough in Karachi, and PPP have take advantage of MQM's weakness before PTI. Again, cracks showing in PTIs campaign due to a very heavy focus on Punjab. They need to try and divert some more attention to Karachi as there are a good 20 seats there.
 
Mian said:
Shocked to see MQM at number 3?
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Believe it or not, there are very large parts of Karachi where MQM are completely dead.

They are not going to win a single seat in District East or District South. PSP are strong in Korangi and parts of Malir, PPP are strong in District South, parts of Malir, and parts of District West. PTI are very strong in district East, and parts of District South, and they have decent support in all other districts.

Only real MQM space left is District Central, but even there, PTI are really challenging MQM, and I won't be surprised if PTI actually wins from Azizabad.
 
hussain.r97 said:
PTI are in serious danger of losing this seat, they are much safer in the Karachi East seats.

The issue is that PTI councillors were elected from DHA and Clifton, and PPP councillors were elected from places like Kalapul, Railway Colony, Hazara Colony, Dehli Colony, etc.

PPP councillors have done a lot of work in their areas, while PTI councillors did nothing special. DHA and Clifton voters will stick with PTI, but the part of the constituency outside of those two areas are turning against PTI, and it shows in this poll. On top of that, PTI have not really started campaigning heavily enough in Karachi, and PPP have take advantage of MQM's weakness before PTI. Again, cracks showing in PTIs campaign due to a very heavy focus on Punjab. They need to try and divert some more attention to Karachi as there are a good 20 seats there.
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PTI Karachi leadership is really useless there is a reason people call them selfie group of PTI. Khurram Sherzaman was the only positive from PTI Karachi
 
hussain.r97 said:
Believe it or not, there are very large parts of Karachi where MQM are completely dead.

They are not going to win a single seat in District East or District South. PSP are strong in Korangi and parts of Malir, PPP are strong in District South, parts of Malir, and parts of District West. PTI are very strong in district East, and parts of District South, and they have decent support in all other districts.

Only real MQM space left is District Central, but even there, PTI are really challenging MQM, and I won't be surprised if PTI actually wins from Azizabad.
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Now that's an interesting situation and is there any seat left where Haqeeqi can show any fight? Isn't Azizabad the same constituency where by election was held and Imran ismail was the candidate from PTI?
 
Mian said:
PTI Karachi leadership is really useless there is a reason people call them selfie group of PTI. Khurram Sherzaman was the only positive from PTI Karachi
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I am in direct contact with Karachi leadership, and I would say it is a mixed bag. There are some really great people in there, but there are parts of it that are very slow to act. I can give them some leeway due to the fact that MQM was a militant group until recently, and things have changed drastically in the last year. But I really think that they need to get a move on, and organize themselves much better.
 
Mian said:
Now that's an interesting situation and is there any seat left where Haqeeqi can show any fight? Isn't Azizabad the same constituency where by election was held and Imran ismail was the candidate from PTI?
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Don't think Haqeeqi can show any fight, MQM voters are largely switching to PTI, PPP, or PSP. Mostly PTI.

Things have changed a lot in just one year, many MQM workers have switched to PTI because they don't have any fear anymore. These people have run MQM campaigns in the past, and now how to work on the ground in Karachi, and bring voters in.
 
hussain.r97 said:
Don't think Haqeeqi can show any fight, MQM voters are largely switching to PTI, PPP, or PSP. Mostly PTI.

Things have changed a lot in just one year, many MQM workers have switched to PTI because they don't have any fear anymore. These people have run MQM campaigns in the past, and now how to work on the ground in Karachi, and bring voters in.
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True these MQM workers can be assets they know the ground realities and have been working on ground for decades. PTI should make sure to get full output from them that will lead to wonders for PTI.
 
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