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If anyone had any doubt that Asad Umar is the absolute best person in all of Pakistan to manage the economy should watch this interview from today.


 
If anyone had any doubt that Asad Umar is the absolute best person in all of Pakistan to manage the economy should watch this interview from today.



I was actually going to post this program video thanks for posting! i saw it live and my man Asad Umar knows how to make it work! he had answer for everything
 
I was actually going to post this program video thanks for posting! i saw it live and my man Asad Umar knows how to make it work! he had answer for everything

Big fan of the guy... kisi tarhan rigging karkay isko lagwa do bhai.... :uakmal :yk
 
So, the election day is supposed to be between 25-30 July.

After finance minister, the most important post after PM is the CM Punjab. Wonder who could get that? But gaining majority in Punjab still looks a distant dream.
 
Showbaz has been the longest serving CM in Pakistan. I hope we get some one else this time for the sake of democracy, we also need better local governments for equitable development.
 
So, the election day is supposed to be between 25-30 July.

After finance minister, the most important post after PM is the CM Punjab. Wonder who could get that? But gaining majority in Punjab still looks a distant dream.

After Traeen DQ if Ch Nisar had used the timing well during recent events the CM seat was there for him.
 
After Traeen DQ if Ch Nisar had used the timing well during recent events the CM seat was there for him.

No way in hell is PTI getting into such a position to nominate CM Punjab




Btw Mian sahab yeh dosri thread mein ap kya kar bethay.... aek hi post se dosray ko tabah-o-barbaad kar dala :uakmal:uakmal
 
Are there going to be federal ministers for health and education? I know as per 18th amendment it's the duty of provinces to provide these. Another issue is even if PTI form federal government they may not form provincial governments in Punjab and Sindh and hence cannot "perform" as per their liking.

I think once PTI implement their local government policy, the role of the provincial government will become limited. Development funds will be channelled directly to the local governments rather than to the MNAs and MPAs. PTI can achieve a lot through that, though they likely won't be able to completely implement their healthcare and education policies without winning provincial government.
 
No way in hell is PTI getting into such a position to nominate CM Punjab




Btw Mian sahab yeh dosri thread mein ap kya kar bethay.... aek hi post se dosray ko tabah-o-barbaad kar dala :uakmal:uakmal

True it's still hard to have a shot at CMship of Punjab for PTI but at least Ch Nisar had more chances of becoming CM Punjab if he joins PTI because there is no way in hell House of Sharif will allow him to be CM under their part umbrella.

btw kerna tha bache ko expose aaj poora pump ho ker aya tha us tweet ke baad her thread bump ker rha tha to promote nooras iski khushi deedni thi :))
 
Taimur Jhagra
Arbab Shehzad

2 more smart brains added to PTI

Kudos to PTI for finding these gems they will really help in policy making!
 
Gaining a majority in Punjab assembly would be extremely difficult. Accountability court verdict is very important in this regard.
 
Jamhoor Kushh Taqatoun k Mohroun ka janaza

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The focus of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/pkNHDR?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#pkNHDR</a> is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/InvestInPKyouth?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#InvestInPKyouth</a> but it also includes a decadal analysis of Pakistan's🇵🇰 district-by-district performance on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HumanDevelopment?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HumanDevelopment</a>📈📉📊.<br><br>I explore key lessons of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HowWeAreDoing?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HowWeAreDoing</a> in this essay for <a href="https://twitter.com/eosmagazine?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@eosmagazine</a> in <a href="https://twitter.com/dawn_com?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dawn_com</a>.<br>Read here: <a href="https://t.co/COBvYDwvVT">https://t.co/COBvYDwvVT</a> <a href="https://t.co/Jh3LWCJUif">pic.twitter.com/Jh3LWCJUif</a></p>— Adil Najam عادل نجم (@AdilNajam) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdilNajam/status/995504338297597954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Jamhoor Kushh Taqatoun k Mohroun ka janaza

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The focus of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/pkNHDR?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#pkNHDR</a> is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/InvestInPKyouth?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#InvestInPKyouth</a> but it also includes a decadal analysis of Pakistan's���� district-by-district performance on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HumanDevelopment?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HumanDevelopment</a>������.<br><br>I explore key lessons of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HowWeAreDoing?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HowWeAreDoing</a> in this essay for <a href="https://twitter.com/eosmagazine?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@eosmagazine</a> in <a href="https://twitter.com/dawn_com?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dawn_com</a>.<br>Read here: <a href="https://t.co/COBvYDwvVT">https://t.co/COBvYDwvVT</a> <a href="https://t.co/Jh3LWCJUif">pic.twitter.com/Jh3LWCJUif</a></p>— Adil Najam عادل نجم (@AdilNajam) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdilNajam/status/995504338297597954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

A data collected from 2005-2015 when PTI was in power for just 1.5 years comparing it with nooras punjab where they were ruling from 30 years. Come up with the report from 2013 to 2018 and see your face in mirror than.
 
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Jamhoor Kushh Taqatoun k Mohroun ka janaza

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The focus of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/pkNHDR?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#pkNHDR</a> is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/InvestInPKyouth?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#InvestInPKyouth</a> but it also includes a decadal analysis of Pakistan's&#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56816; district-by-district performance on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HumanDevelopment?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HumanDevelopment</a>&#55357;&#56520;&#55357;&#56521;&#55357;&#56522;.<br><br>I explore key lessons of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HowWeAreDoing?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HowWeAreDoing</a> in this essay for <a href="https://twitter.com/eosmagazine?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@eosmagazine</a> in <a href="https://twitter.com/dawn_com?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dawn_com</a>.<br>Read here: <a href="https://t.co/COBvYDwvVT">https://t.co/COBvYDwvVT</a> <a href="https://t.co/Jh3LWCJUif">pic.twitter.com/Jh3LWCJUif</a></p>— Adil Najam عادل نجم (@AdilNajam) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdilNajam/status/995504338297597954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Don't know what you are trying to prove here. The report does not even capture anything past 2015. It also shows that KPK has had the fastest HDI growth in Pakistan.
 
A data collected from 2005-2015 when PTI was in power for just 1.5 years comparing it with nooras punjab where they were ruling from 30 years. Come up with the report from 2013 to 2018 and see your face in mirror than.

This is the first time i saw even some commercial liberals telling off PMLN whattsapp journalists group for spreading fake propaganda against KPK government.

When PTI took over in 2013, KPK had seen worst terrorist attacks in our history and these duffers are comparing 1.5 year of KPK performance with their 7 years. Even then when you observe the trend 2013 onwards, PTI was ahead of other provinces but they are comparing 10 years performance which is completely insane.

There have been other reports highlighting great work KPK has done but no one ever focused on that, maybe PTI needs to improve it's media management and hire some journalists like PMLN does.
 
This is the first time i saw even some commercial liberals telling off PMLN whattsapp journalists group for spreading fake propaganda against KPK government.

When PTI took over in 2013, KPK had seen worst terrorist attacks in our history and these duffers are comparing 1.5 year of KPK performance with their 7 years. Even then when you observe the trend 2013 onwards, PTI was ahead of other provinces but they are comparing 10 years performance which is completely insane.

There have been other reports highlighting great work KPK has done but no one ever focused on that, maybe PTI needs to improve it's media management and hire some journalists like PMLN does.

One can understand the frustration of nooras and their paid media because it was really hard for them to digest alif aelaan recent survey (liberals are known to support them).
 
Taimur Jhagra
Arbab Shehzad

2 more smart brains added to PTI

Kudos to PTI for finding these gems they will really help in policy making!

Arbab Shehzad was already been doing work on election campaign. He is a retired bureaucrat if i am not wrong.

But who is Taimur Jhagra?
 
Arbab Shehzad was already been doing work on election campaign. He is a retired bureaucrat if i am not wrong.

But who is Taimur Jhagra?

Arbab Shehzad is a wonder bureaucrat and an ex chief sec of KP. Taimur Jhagra worked for McKinsey and Company, he has more than a decade of experience working with the governments and multinationals organization across Europe, the Middle East, and South Asia. Moved back to Pakistan recently and become part of PTI team and played a major role in policy making. He is the grandson of our ex president Ishaq Khan and nephew of Iftikhar Khan Jhagra.
 
Jamhoor Kushh Taqatoun k Mohroun ka janaza

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The focus of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/pkNHDR?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#pkNHDR</a> is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/InvestInPKyouth?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#InvestInPKyouth</a> but it also includes a decadal analysis of Pakistan's���� district-by-district performance on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HumanDevelopment?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HumanDevelopment</a>������.<br><br>I explore key lessons of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HowWeAreDoing?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HowWeAreDoing</a> in this essay for <a href="https://twitter.com/eosmagazine?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@eosmagazine</a> in <a href="https://twitter.com/dawn_com?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dawn_com</a>.<br>Read here: <a href="https://t.co/COBvYDwvVT">https://t.co/COBvYDwvVT</a> <a href="https://t.co/Jh3LWCJUif">pic.twitter.com/Jh3LWCJUif</a></p>— Adil Najam عادل نجم (@AdilNajam) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdilNajam/status/995504338297597954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeh next wali be tweet kerte na ke jismain mention he data 2015 tak he and KP is making most progress in Human Development. Tasveer ka aik rukh kyun dikhaate ho whatsapp waale lifaafo?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">10yr (2005-15) analysis of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HDI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HDI</a>�� across PAK in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/pkNHDR?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#pkNHDR</a>����:<br>1/<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Punjab?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Punjab</a> remains way ahead of the pack, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Balochistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Balochistan</a> way behind<br>2/Most progress in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HumanDevelopment?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HumanDevelopment</a> recorded in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KP?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KP</a> (catching up)<br>3/Most <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/disappointing?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#disappointing</a>�� was <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Sindh?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Sindh</a> (stagnating)<br>Read here: <a href="https://t.co/COBvYDwvVT">https://t.co/COBvYDwvVT</a> <a href="https://t.co/3co7RFpr2Q">pic.twitter.com/3co7RFpr2Q</a></p>— Adil Najam عادل نجم (@AdilNajam) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdilNajam/status/995650576661860352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Yes i always knew this was never going to happen, firstly there is no will from government and to be fair it is extremely difficult to make it secure for people voting from all around the world.

So many other countries allow it, it could have been done. Postal ballot could have been used.
 
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Looks like Sohail Kamrial didn't even applied for party ticket from Attock. So most likely it's Amin getting ticket from NA-55 (both Amin and Major applied there) and Major Tahir or his son Zain (current MNA) getting ticket from NA-56 (both father and son applied). Major Tahir also applied for a MPA ticket.
 
Yes i always knew this was never going to happen, firstly there is no will from government and to be fair it is extremely difficult to make it secure for people voting from all around the world.

So many other countries allow it, it could have been done. Postal ballot could have been used.

Postal ballot or voting at an embassy would be so much better and more secure than online voting. Secondly, to end the complication of having different ballots for each seat, they can just add 7 extra seats for overseas voters. Something like 4 from Asia, 2 from Europe, 1 from America + Africa + Oceania.

That way, overseas Pakistanis would have actual representation in the National Assembly.
 
Yeh next wali be tweet kerte na ke jismain mention he data 2015 tak he and KP is making most progress in Human Development. Tasveer ka aik rukh kyun dikhaate ho whatsapp waale lifaafo?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">10yr (2005-15) analysis of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HDI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HDI</a>�� across PAK in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/pkNHDR?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#pkNHDR</a>����:<br>1/<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Punjab?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Punjab</a> remains way ahead of the pack, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Balochistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Balochistan</a> way behind<br>2/Most progress in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HumanDevelopment?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HumanDevelopment</a> recorded in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KP?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KP</a> (catching up)<br>3/Most <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/disappointing?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#disappointing</a>�� was <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Sindh?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Sindh</a> (stagnating)<br>Read here: <a href="https://t.co/COBvYDwvVT">https://t.co/COBvYDwvVT</a> <a href="https://t.co/3co7RFpr2Q">pic.twitter.com/3co7RFpr2Q</a></p>— Adil Najam عادل نجم (@AdilNajam) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdilNajam/status/995650576661860352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Bhai ap tou haath dho ke hi parh gaye hain iss nadaan dost ke peechay.... :uakmal


Jub koi fazul bol raha ho tou behtar hota hai ossay lift na karayi jaye
 
Expected hi tha... if it happens PTI might end up getting 2/3

Honestly, I think the impact overseas voting would make on PTI's chances is over stated. There are 104 million Pakistanis registered to vote, and only about 50% actually vote, so that's 52 million.

Officially there are about 9 million overseas Pakistanis including kids, and also Pakistanis who have no connection with Pakistan anymore but just write Pakistani as their ethnicity on their census form. So let's say about 3 million of those 9 million are eligible to vote, and for argument's sake, let's say all of them end up voting.

Now we need to consider that overseas Pakistanis include all those Pakistanis living in the Arab Gulf, they make up about 3 million of all overseas Pakistanis, or 1 million of all the overseas voters. A large amount of them are labourers, many from small places in Pakistan which are traditionally PML-N and PPP strongholds. So this would mean that a decent amount of overseas votes may not even be for PTI, but let's just say, for the sake of this argument, every single overseas Pakistani votes for PTI. That would be 3 million votes dispersed in an overall number of 55 million votes.

Being extremely generous, it would mean an average 10,000-15,000 extra votes for PTI on the average sized seat. But of course, we need to factor in that it is extremely unlikely that all 3 million overseas voters would end up turning up to vote, and it is really unlikely that all those votes would be for PTI. So realistically speaking, PTI would probably end up with 4,000 - 6,000 extra votes on the average sized seat. It would probably be enough to make a decent impact of 6-7 NA seats, but definitely not enough to get PTI to a 2/3 majority.
 
PPP’s Qamar Zaman Kaira Expected To Join PTI

Islamabad (UrduPoint / Pakistan Point News – 21st May, 2018) pakistan People’s Party (PPP) leader Qamar Zaman Kaira is expected to join Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), according to media reports.

According to a report published in a local newspaper, the PPP leader and former Information Minister has made preparations to join PTI. He has met former lawmakers who have recently joined PTI and minister Nazir Gondal in this regard as they were active members of PPP. These PPP leaders were of the view that they are not being given the respect and importance in the party that they deserve.

Kaira has also reportedly consulted other MPAs and active members of his area who suggested him to join PTI.

However, the former and key members of PTI from his constituency strongly oppose his joining in the PTI. They have told their senior leadership that if Kaira is included in the party while ignoring them, they will either join Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PMLN) or Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PMLQ).

The PMLQ leadership has also given a message to PTI to not include Qamar Zaman Kaira and Tanvir Ashraf Kaira in the party as they do not have a good impression in the constituency. They served personal interests instead of serving the people while they were in power. This has disappointed the locals. Their political chapter has also been closed like PMLN’s.

Earlier, Babar Awan, Firdous Ashiq Awan and Nadeem Afzal Chan from PPP had joined the PTI.

https://www.urdupoint.com/en/pakistan/ppps-qamar-zaman-kaira-expected-to-join-pt-348859.html
 
[MENTION=135]Waseem[/MENTION] [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]

How reliable is the above source?
 
Good news boysss.

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[MENTION=135]Waseem[/MENTION] [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]

How reliable is the above source?

Don't think they are reliable and have seen this many times before. Also, no one on twitter mentioned this which means it is not correct.
 
And here comes the drop scene for millionth time, Maryam's media cell fooled a few but this was always on the cards after it was clear that report is irrelevant and cant be used to compare:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I stand corrected , lead author for the UN report on Prov Govts performance in Pakistan has clarified that assessed period was 2005-2015. This isn’t current! hence conclusion Punjab 1st KP 3rd attributed to UNDP not correct</p>— Kamran Khan (@AajKamranKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/AajKamranKhan/status/998481198811840512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Most hilarious is ANP leaders jumping up & down in excitement, little did they understand that the report further confirms their PATHETIC performance more than anything :))
 
And here comes the drop scene for millionth time, Maryam's media cell fooled a few but this was always on the cards after it was clear that report is irrelevant and cant be used to compare:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I stand corrected , lead author for the UN report on Prov Govts performance in Pakistan has clarified that assessed period was 2005-2015. This isn’t current! hence conclusion Punjab 1st KP 3rd attributed to UNDP not correct</p>— Kamran Khan (@AajKamranKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/AajKamranKhan/status/998481198811840512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Most hilarious is ANP leaders jumping up & down in excitement, little did they understand that the report further confirms their PATHETIC performance more than anything :))

He shrewdly waited a whole day to issue a statement rather than reply when he was corrected immediately.
 
where is our friend [MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION], any apologies to make?

when hell freezes over..they'll come out of the woodwork once the elections are over and not before. Unless its some silly propaganda item from Maryam and her loq iq media cell.
 
So finally MNA Sardar Ashiq Gopang joins PTI from Muzaffargarh, He won his seat as an Independent from NA180 securing 71000 votes (Runner up from PMLN 57000).

This means PTI is VERY strong on ALL 6 Muzaffargarh seats, Jamshed Dasti wanted 3 tickets to support PTI but PTI refused as it has strong candidates on ALL constituencies now.

Others to join today:
1) MPA PP34 Sargodha Nadia Aziz (from PMLN)
2) MPA PK20 Charsadda Khalid Khan (from QWP)
3) EX MPA Shujabad Rana Sohail Noon (Multan)
 
So finally MNA Sardar Ashiq Gopang joins PTI from Muzaffargarh, He won his seat as an Independent from NA180 securing 71000 votes (Runner up from PMLN 57000).

This means PTI is VERY strong on ALL 6 Muzaffargarh seats, Jamshed Dasti wanted 3 tickets to support PTI but PTI refused as it has strong candidates on ALL constituencies now.

Others to join today:
1) MPA PP34 Sargodha Nadia Aziz (from PMLN)
2) MPA PK20 Charsadda Khalid Khan (from QWP)
3) EX MPA Shujabad Rana Sohail Noon (Multan)

New people joining pretty much everyday now. I wish there was a list of people who have left other parties and joined PTI, would be really helpful in seeing how far in front PTI are ...
 
New people joining pretty much everyday now. I wish there was a list of people who have left other parties and joined PTI, would be really helpful in seeing how far in front PTI are ...

To be honest it doesn't matter since quite a few are likely to leave PTI if they don't get the tickets so these analysis can be done once the tickets have been awarded.
 
To be honest it doesn't matter since quite a few are likely to leave PTI if they don't get the tickets so these analysis can be done once the tickets have been awarded.

True. How many tickets do you think PTI would be willing to give these electables?
 
[MENTION=135]Waseem[/MENTION] [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]

How reliable is the above source?

Urdupoint is a very well known old site but their news are not that accurate mostly based on rumors only with no credible sources and if i remember correctly just a few weeks ago Kaira said dont insult me by saying i am joining PTI or something like that i dont remember his exact words. If PTI is doing seat adjustment with PMLQ in Gujrat (they had a meeting 2 days ago) than i see no reason of Kaira joining PTI
 
True. How many tickets do you think PTI would be willing to give these electables?

From what i have heard Electibility is third most important after loyalty and character. For example, if party loyalist only got 20-30% of votes winning candidate got in 2013 then unfortunately they will miss out but if they were at least competitive then they will be preferred over electables.

I am sure all these sitting MNAs especially who won as Independents will definitely get tickets especially in rural areas.
 
And here comes the drop scene for millionth time, Maryam's media cell fooled a few but this was always on the cards after it was clear that report is irrelevant and cant be used to compare:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I stand corrected , lead author for the UN report on Prov Govts performance in Pakistan has clarified that assessed period was 2005-2015. This isn’t current! hence conclusion Punjab 1st KP 3rd attributed to UNDP not correct</p>— Kamran Khan (@AajKamranKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/AajKamranKhan/status/998481198811840512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Most hilarious is ANP leaders jumping up & down in excitement, little did they understand that the report further confirms their PATHETIC performance more than anything :))

hahaha their propganda exposed once again inka her tactic back fire ker raha he itne bure din aa gae hen in per :))
 
New people joining pretty much everyday now. I wish there was a list of people who have left other parties and joined PTI, would be really helpful in seeing how far in front PTI are ...

I saw a list the other day will find and post it here.
 
So finally MNA Sardar Ashiq Gopang joins PTI from Muzaffargarh, He won his seat as an Independent from NA180 securing 71000 votes (Runner up from PMLN 57000).

This means PTI is VERY strong on ALL 6 Muzaffargarh seats, Jamshed Dasti wanted 3 tickets to support PTI but PTI refused as it has strong candidates on ALL constituencies now.

Others to join today:
1) MPA PP34 Sargodha Nadia Aziz (from PMLN)
2) MPA PK20 Charsadda Khalid Khan (from QWP)
3) EX MPA Shujabad Rana Sohail Noon (Multan)

Great news!
 
Urdupoint is a very well known old site but their news are not that accurate mostly based on rumors only with no credible sources and if i remember correctly just a few weeks ago Kaira said dont insult me by saying i am joining PTI or something like that i dont remember his exact words. If PTI is doing seat adjustment with PMLQ in Gujrat (they had a meeting 2 days ago) than i see no reason of Kaira joining PTI

Just listening to Fawad Ch's press conference now, he has said that PTI will compete alone, and will not be making any alliances with PML-Q.
 
From what i have heard Electibility is third most important after loyalty and character. For example, if party loyalist only got 20-30% of votes winning candidate got in 2013 then unfortunately they will miss out but if they were at least competitive then they will be preferred over electables.

I am sure all these sitting MNAs especially who won as Independents will definitely get tickets especially in rural areas.

That seems like the logical thing to do. I think someone who got 35%+ last time around should be seriously considered. I would rather see ideological and old PTI workers in the assemblies rather than electables.
 
First batch of tickets to be announced before 31st May according to Fawad Ch.

He has also completely rejected the idea of an alliance with PML-Q or any other party. Note that he specifically mentioned PML-Q.
 
Just listening to Fawad Ch's press conference now, he has said that PTI will compete alone, and will not be making any alliances with PML-Q.

Kamil Ali Agha of PMLQ said they had a meeting with PTI leadership in Lahore 2 days on seat adjustments its not an alliance but adjustment only on Gujrat sests
 
Kamil Ali Agha of PMLQ said they had a meeting with PTI leadership in Lahore 2 days on seat adjustments its not an alliance but adjustment only on Gujrat sests

Will be interesting to see what happens. I think seat adjustment in Gujrat is a must. I would rather see PML-Q win that seat than the vote get split, and PTI end up on top.

Pakistan ideally need a ranked voting system or a two round system to eliminate such scenarios.
 
Will be interesting to see what happens. I think seat adjustment in Gujrat is a must. I would rather see PML-Q win that seat than the vote get split, and PTI end up on top.

Pakistan ideally need a ranked voting system or a two round system to eliminate such scenarios.

Agree with you and i am sure TLY and MML will dent vote bank of different parties on some seats of Punjab
 
Rajanpur NA-194, PMLN at 45% PTI at 35% and PPP at 12% according to Habib Akram.
 
ریت کے بت نہ بنا اے میرے اچھے فنکار
اک ذرا ٹھہر کہ میں تجھے پتھر لا دوں

Aage bhag peeche chor :)) kia hua teri UNDP reprot ka janza nikel gaya jo or cheazain dhun dhund ker la raha he pichli ko defend kerne ki bajaaye? :)))

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ریت کے بت نہ بنا اے میرے اچھے فنکار
اک ذرا ٹھہر کہ میں تجھے پتھر لا دوں

As you are the chief Noora propagandist on the forum now, when is the apology for the blatant lies you posted earlier coming. Dont disappear like Ishaq Dar and claim that you have lost your memory, dont blame it on the children. Lets hear the apology.
 
خفیہ اداروں کی رپورٹوں اور خفیہ اداروں کے حکموں پر چلنے والے لوگ 😊😊😊😊


ڈبے بھی بھروا کر دکھائو اس دفع۔ نہ بھر سکے 2002 کی طرح تو بھی جہمور سے شکست خوردہ ہو گے۔ بھر وا لیے تو ملک دو لخت کروائو گے 71 کی طرح۔


لیکن فکر نہ کرو پورا پنجاب لودھراں بننے جارہا ہے چند ہفتوں میں۔ پھولوں والوں کے بوٹ پالشی بریگیڈ اگلے دھرنوں کی تیاری کرو کنیڈین کزن اور گالی خادم کے ساتھ :-)
 
خفیہ اداروں کی رپورٹوں اور خفیہ اداروں کے حکموں پر چلنے والے لوگ &#55357;&#56842;&#55357;&#56842;&#55357;&#56842;&#55357;&#56842;


ڈبے بھی بھروا کر دکھائو اس دفع۔ نہ بھر سکے 2002 کی طرح تو بھی جہمور سے شکست خوردہ ہو گے۔ بھر وا لیے تو ملک دو لخت کروائو گے 71 کی طرح۔


لیکن فکر نہ کرو پورا پنجاب لودھراں بننے جارہا ہے چند ہفتوں میں۔ پھولوں والوں کے بوٹ پالشی بریگیڈ اگلے دھرنوں کی تیاری کرو کنیڈین کزن اور گالی خادم کے ساتھ :-)

Bhai jo marzi kerle tum logon ko amendment nae kerne denge Khatam e Nabuwat ki kisi be shiq main so keep dreaming and promote Mirza Nawaz Sharif! Tum logon ki haqeeqat sab jaante hen apne mufaad ke liay kuch be kerne ko tayar ho jaate ho
 
Bhai jo marzi kerle tum logon ko amendment nae kerne denge Khatam e Nabuwat ki kisi be shiq main so keep dreaming and promote Mirza Nawaz Sharif! Tum logon ki haqeeqat sab jaante hen apne mufaad ke liay kuch be kerne ko tayar ho jaate ho


گالی خادم گستاخ رسول کا ووٹ بھی پٹے گا۔ فکر نہ کرو۔ اور ختم نبوت اور ڈان لیکس کے ڈرامے بھی پٹیں گے۔ 1953 سے یہ کارڈ صرف جمہور کی طاقت کو کمزور کرنے کے لیے کھیلے جاتے ہیں۔

ڈولے شاہ کے چوئی دماغ یہ منجن فوجی راکھیل بیچ رہے تھے۔ نواز شریف راسخ العقیدہ سنی ہے اور اس نے اسکا ثبوت آزاد کشمیر میں بنائے گئے قانون سے دیا ہے۔


مذہب الگ ہے اور سیاست الگ۔


الہی جماعتوں کو کسی زانی شرابی پارلیمنٹ کی توسیق نہیں چاہیئے ہوتی اور نہ انکے کالے غیر قرآنی قوانین روک بنتے ہیں۔

تمہارے آقا و متاع ضیاء الحق نے اس اسمبلی کو زانی شرابی کرپٹ لوگوں کا ٹولہ کہا تھا۔ تاریخ سے نا بلد وجود گورنمنٹ کا وائیٹ پیپر پڑھ لو۔ یہ وہ ملک خداداد ہے جہاں ختم نبوت کا سب سے بڑا چیمپیئن وہ شیخ رشید ہے جو 65 سال سے یہ کہتا آرہا ہے کہ میں شادی اسلیے نہیں کرتا کہ جب دودھ ویسے ہی مل جائے تو گھرمیں بھینس رکھنے کی کیا ضرورت اور دوسرا وہ تمہارا خادم حسین رضوی گالیوں کا بادشاہ جسے جمہور کش پکے چیک دیتے ہیں۔


ان ہتھکنڈوں سے بریلوی دیوبندی ووٹ نہیں ٹوٹے گا &#55358;&#56611;&#55358;&#56611;&#55358;&#56611;


الٹا خان صاحب کا ووٹ بینک خادم ہضم کر جائے گا اور تم دیکھتے رہ جائو گے کہ تمہارے آقائوں نے جو جال بنا تھا اس میں خود انکا ملازم خاص جکڑا گیا۔


پی ایم این اے کے ووٹر جانتے ہیں اور سمجھتے ہیں کہ 44 سال بعد آزاد کشمیر کی اسمبلی نے نون لیگ کی حکومت میں کیا امینڈمنٹ پاس کی ہے۔


تم یہ مذہب کا منجن بار بار سیاسی گفتگو میں لاتے ہو اور آج تک اس بات کا جواب نہیں دے سکے کہ الیکشن امیدواروں کا سول جج کے سامنے بیان حلفی دینے کی بجائے ایفی ڈیوٹ جمع کرانے سے مجھے کیا فرق پڑنا تھا ؟ تمہاری پی پی پی اور تمہاری پی ٹی آئی بھی یہ بات سمجھتی تھی اچھی طرح کہ اس سے ملک کی ایک ڈکلیئرڈ اقلیت کو ایک دھیلے کا فائدہ نہیں پہنچنا اور نہ ہی انکے آئینی سٹیٹس میں رتی برابر فرق آنا ہے۔ لہازا انتخابی اصلاحات کی کمیٹی میں پی ٹی آئی سمیت سب چپ تھے۔ اس ڈرامے کو گیٹ نمبر چار نے گھڑا شیخ رشید صاحب کے ذدیعے۔ اور مقصد صرف نواز شریف کو رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کے خاتم النبیئین ہونے کا انکاری ثابت کرنا اور بریلوی دیوبندی ووٹ توڑنا تھا۔ ویسے ہی جیسے ڈان لیکس کے ذریعے نواز شریف کو غدار ملت ثابت کرنے کی ناکام کوشش کی گئی۔ عوام ان ڈراموں کو اچھی طرح سمجھتی ہے۔ 70 سالہ تاریخ ہے اس مذہبی کارڈ اور غداری کے کارڈ کی۔

جب عمران خان صاحب جمہوری لیڈر ہوا کرتے تھے اور غیر جمہوری طاقتوں کی دن رات کلاس لیا کرتے تھے تب یہ کارڈ انکے خلاف بھی کھیلا گیا تھا۔ جی ہاں یہی سپیسیفک مذہبی کارڈ اور پھر خان صاحب اپنے ایمان کی گواہیاں دے دے کر لفٹ دے گر گئے تھے۔


یہ جنگ سویلین سپریمیسی کی ہے۔ اس جنگ کو ناکام کرنے کے لیے کبھی مذہبی ٹوپی اور کبھی غداری کی ٹوپی پہنانے کی کوشش کی جاتی ہے۔ مگر اس دفع مسئلہ یہ ہے کہ یہ 2018 ہے اور جیسا کہ خان صاحب فرماتے ہیں کہ you can fool the people all the time سو یہی ہونے جارہا ہے۔
 
Gate number 4 & NAB in one line. Still defeat for the laundry and it's players is imminent.


All these harassed turncoats will taste Defeat 😊

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pic 1: NAB issues notice to Jafar Laghari <br>Pic 2: Jafar Laghari joins PTI and NAB file starts gathering dust <br><br>NAB chief cant say NAB is not involved in pre-poll rigging <a href="https://t.co/5BLz9tYaJk">pic.twitter.com/5BLz9tYaJk</a></p>— Murtaza Ali Shah (@MurtazaGeoNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/MurtazaGeoNews/status/998138964400852997?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Gate number 4 & NAB in one line. Still defeat for the laundry and it's players is imminent.


All these harassed turncoats will taste Defeat &#55357;&#56842;

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pic 1: NAB issues notice to Jafar Laghari <br>Pic 2: Jafar Laghari joins PTI and NAB file starts gathering dust <br><br>NAB chief cant say NAB is not involved in pre-poll rigging <a href="https://t.co/5BLz9tYaJk">pic.twitter.com/5BLz9tYaJk</a></p>— Murtaza Ali Shah (@MurtazaGeoNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/MurtazaGeoNews/status/998138964400852997?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Geo is still used a source- you must be desperate.
 
Bechara Qadiani trying too hard to please his new Messiah Mirza Nawaz Sharif :))
 
Sherpao and QWP tabah de :))

Out of 10, 7 QWP MPAs have left party, Remaining 3 MPAs includes Aftab sherpao's son and, AneesA Zaib(reserve seat).
 
There will be public holiday on Election day.

Waisay hi itni public holiday hoti hain.... nobody thinks about the loss to the exchequer from every single public holiday :facepalm:
 
First batch of tickets to be announced before 31st May according to Fawad Ch.

He has also completely rejected the idea of an alliance with PML-Q or any other party. Note that he specifically mentioned PML-Q.

If I remember correctly you predicted around 80-90 seats for PTI before all these inclusions happened... do you think now that all these electables are joining will PTI be able to get around 120 seats?
 
It is important the caretaker PMs and CMs are men/women of character and not shah se zayda shah ke wafadar. Elections can be won or lost with their help.
 
Urdupoint is a very well known old site but their news are not that accurate mostly based on rumors only with no credible sources and if i remember correctly just a few weeks ago Kaira said dont insult me by saying i am joining PTI or something like that i dont remember his exact words. If PTI is doing seat adjustment with PMLQ in Gujrat (they had a meeting 2 days ago) than i see no reason of Kaira joining PTI

Wasn't the Urdupoint the same garbage news paper that spread the rumour that IK's wife has left him and gone home?
 
[MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] what do you think about Caretaker PM? Shoud we have any high hopes? and does it really matter
 
PTI’s seat adjustment with the PML-Q is a must for Kasur.In the last election, there were three seat for the taking if there was an alliance between the two parties.
 
PTI’s seat adjustment with the PML-Q is a must for Kasur.In the last election, there were three seat for the taking if there was an alliance between the two parties.

They are going for solo flight as per Fawad Chaudry press conference today
 
[MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] what do you think about Caretaker PM? Shoud we have any high hopes? and does it really matter

IMHO Care Taker CM Punjab matters more than care taker PM. CM Punjab will control the whole machinery/bureaucracy of Punjab and Punjab is what you need to manage to form government.
 
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