Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him): The best of all creation and leader of mankind

[Suleiman]

'بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ

Have made a thread on Prophet Isa (PBUH), and will make a thread on each of the well known prophets (peace be upon them all)

This one, however, is on the final prophet, the final messenger, the leader of all prophets, and the final prophet sent to all mankind and jinnkind,

Prophet Muhammad صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ (peace be upon him)

(Disclaimer: Prophet Muhammad PBUH for us Muslims is more beloved to us than ourselves, our children, our parents, and more than any creation.

So be cautious that any form of deliberate disrespect toward him will be replied with harshness and post will be reported and deleted, as the mods as Muslims will have you know as well @The Bald Eagle

To put it into perspective, if a person doesn’t like for their mum or dad to be insulted, know that this for us is an even greater matter)

Thread is to discuss the life and teachings of Rasullulah صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ (for non Muslims, that’s just another word for prophet of God) and how you are implementing said teachings into your life, key takeaways, and verified hadiths and verses in the Quran regarding him to strengthen and inspire faith. In Sha Allah.

In him we find the example of not only being a believer, but a loving husband, father, righteous and fair leader, governor and military general and tactician. A complete example, صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ.

To start: For me the biggest lesson so far has been the importance of good etiquette and mannerisms, while still being straight up regarding the truth and the message of Islam. No sugar coating, but at the same time carrying compassion.

 

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Sallallahu alaihi wasallam.

 

[IAJ]

@Suleiman Brother, a beutiful thread, but there are so many Shayateen on this forum now that I am afraid they will start slow attacks, more will follow and the thread will be completely derailed. That is my concern.

I would encourage everyone who wants to learn more about the Propthet's (saw) life to read the book 'Muhammad- His Life Based On the Earliest Sources" by Martin Lings. And I think I heard Shaykh Hamza Yusuf saying people should read it once anually to referesh their faith.

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[Suleiman]

@Suleiman Brother, a beutiful thread, but there are so many Shayateen on this forum now that I am afraid they will start slow attacks, more will follow and the thread will be completely derailed. That is my concern.

I would encourage everyone who wants to learn more about the Propthet's (saw) life to read the book 'Muhammad- His Life Based On the Earliest Sources" by Martin Lings. And I think I heard Shaykh Hamza Yusuf saying people should read it once anually to referesh their faith.

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I thought about that too brother, but I thought the importance and upside of giving d’awah and informing about our beloved Rasullulah SAW far outweighed that same concern you and me have about others who are of that nature.

Even if one person out of hundreds and thousands were to come to the truth after merely learning about Rasullulah SAW and his beautiful character, then am sure it would’ve been worth it. Or even if one Muslim out of hundreds and thousands sought inspiration from it and turned their life around.

If I am wrong, may Allah forgive me, but that was my thought process.

 

[Hitman]

An honest question here, does there exist any verse or preaching in Islamic scriptures where Muslims have been asked to kill anyone who disrespects Islam or Muhammad? I genuinely don't know this. If such verses aren't there, why are Muslims so eager to do it, or why blasphemy law exists in many Islamic countries?

Once again, this is not a backhanded question. I genuinely don't know the answer.​

 

[uppercut]

An honest question here, does there exist any verse or preaching in Islamic scriptures where Muslims have been asked to kill anyone who disrespects Islam or Muhammad? I genuinely don't know this. If such verses aren't there, why are Muslims so eager to do it, or why blasphemy law exists in many Islamic countries?

Once again, this is not a backhanded question. I genuinely don't know the answer.​

Good question ... The answer to your question is within the OP itself !

 

[Hitman]

Good question ... The answer to your question is within the OP itself !

Well, I've never found the question. And I'm way too lazy to read religious scriptures outside of the Bible.

 

[uppercut]

Well, I've never found the question. And I'm way too lazy to read religious scriptures outside of the Bible.

look at whats been threatened in the OP by a well educated person who most likely lives in a western country.

 

[Hitman]

look at whats been threatened in the OP by a well educated person who most likely lives in a western country.

Same thing is written in the New Testament, that we should love our Lord with all our heart and soul, and more than any human being alive or dead, except Jesus. If we are not willing to do that, we won't receive eternal life. Except that Christians don't generally murder people who disrespect God the Father, God the Son, or God the Holy Spirit ..... the Trinity what we say.​

 

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I would encourage everyone who wants to learn more about the Propthet's (saw) life to read the book 'Muhammad- His Life Based On the Earliest Sources" by Martin Lings. And I think I heard Shaykh Hamza Yusuf saying people should read it once anually to referesh their faith.

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Thanks for sharing.

I also have this book called "The Sealed Nectar". It is about the life of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

Great book.

 

[uppercut]

Same thing is written in the New Testament, that we should love our Lord with all our heart and soul, and more than any human being alive or dead, except Jesus. If we are not willing to do that, we won't receive eternal life. Except that Christians don't generally murder people who disrespect God the Father, God the Son, or God the Holy Spirit ..... the Trinity what we say.​

You got your answer !

PS: In Hinduism its ... "Sarva dharma smabhava and sarve jana sukhino bhavantu" and this was written 1000s of yrs ago when there existed no real religious competition to Hinduism.

 

[Hitman]

You got your answer !

PS: In Hinduism its ... "Sarva dharma smabhava and sarve jana sukhino bhavantu" and this was written 1000s of yrs ago when there existed no real religious competition to Hinduism.

What does that mean?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

@Suleiman Brother, a beutiful thread, but there are so many Shayateen on this forum now that I am afraid they will start slow attacks, more will follow and the thread will be completely derailed. That is my concern.

I would encourage everyone who wants to learn more about the Propthet's (saw) life to read the book 'Muhammad- His Life Based On the Earliest Sources" by Martin Lings. And I think I heard Shaykh Hamza Yusuf saying people should read it once anually to referesh their faith.

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Thats an excellent book. Dr Yasir Qadhi also has a great series on the Seerah. It was originally lectures which are all available online but it has been compiled into an excellent book. I listenes to these lectures on long drives, he does a wonderful job.

One of the most impactful ways of the seerah is to actually imagine yourself there and ask yourself how would you have behaved. Would you have been able to withstand the torture of Bilal (ra) or other new Muslims? What would you have done at Uhud? Would you have been able to give up your wealth and ties for this cause?

When you sit and ponder about it you realise the frailties of your own faith, in a relatively easy world, compared to the early Muslims.

 

[uppercut]

What does that mean?

All religions are possible and let every one in the world live happily.

 

[sweep_shot]

Here's a lecture from Mufti Menk regarding the life of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

 

[LordJames]

@Suleiman Brother, a beutiful thread, but there are so many Shayateen on this forum now that I am afraid they will start slow attacks, more will follow and the thread will be completely derailed. That is my concern.

I would encourage everyone who wants to learn more about the Propthet's (saw) life to read the book 'Muhammad- His Life Based On the Earliest Sources" by Martin Lings. And I think I heard Shaykh Hamza Yusuf saying people should read it once anually to referesh their faith.

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The Shayateen (devils) will not leave us until we are in our graves so nothing to worry as long as you know that their plans and machinations are weak.

[4:76] Believers fight for the cause of Allah, whereas disbelievers fight for the cause of the Devil. So fight against Satan’s ˹evil˺ forces. Indeed, Satan’s schemes are ever weak.

 

[Champ_Pal]

An honest question here, does there exist any verse or preaching in Islamic scriptures where Muslims have been asked to kill anyone who disrespects Islam or Muhammad? I genuinely don't know this. If such verses aren't there, why are Muslims so eager to do it, or why blasphemy law exists in many Islamic countries?

Once again, this is not a backhanded question. I genuinely don't know the answer.​

Not exclusively in Quran itself. But in Hadith, there are instances.

Its an old Jewish practice. Any sort of blasphemy is not tolerated.

 

[Champ_Pal]

What does that mean?

Sambhavana (impartial and equal).

Sukhino Bhavanthu (All peace and Jingalala).

Basically, treat all religions as equal and All people should live in peace and harmony.

India has always been a pluralistic society. Countless cults that shared common stories. People back then realized that and thought that the only way to progress is to live in peace and harmony.

 

[LordJames]

An honest question here, does there exist any verse or preaching in Islamic scriptures where Muslims have been asked to kill anyone who disrespects Islam or Muhammad? I genuinely don't know this. If such verses aren't there, why are Muslims so eager to do it, or why blasphemy law exists in many Islamic countries?

Once again, this is not a backhanded question. I genuinely don't know the answer.​

There is no provision in Islamic law that authorizes individuals to act unilaterally as vigilantes. Rather, Islamic law assigns the responsibility to the state to prohibit insults against any religion or religious figure and to punish violators accordingly. Such laws are intended to apply equally — whether to Islam, Hinduism, or any other faith — and citizens are entitled to bring cases before the court if they believe their religion has been insulted. The same principle applies to the protection of the property of non-Muslims, with clear punishments prescribed for Muslims who violate these rights.

Instead of citing classical texts, I will deliberately refer to Fatwa-e-Alamgiri — a compendium of Islamic rulings specifically compiled for the Indian subcontinent. This work frequently addresses the customs and traditions of Hindus, among others, and was produced under the reign of Emperor Aurangzeb Alamgir, often portrayed as the "Hindu bogeyman." This is not a beginner text but an invaluable guide for scholars (worldwide) because it describes to (non-subcontinent) Scholars aspects of Hindu-religion (Diwali, places of worship) etc. In one of the sections, it talks about the punishment to be given to Muslims for destroying Alcohol (belonging to non-Muslims) and the state to compensate for the the loses from treasury (if perpetrator doesn't have the means to pay the fines).

The entire compendium does not discuss Blasphemy law at all! Pakistan inherited Blasphemy laws from the British and not the Mughuls. A large number of these "blasphemy violations" in Pakistan are based on petty disputes and mob-violence because the law states for a citizen to register a complaint and police to investigate and courts to prosecute (but nothing happens)...just like anything in Pakistan where corruption is a way of life!

Mughul-India had no specific Blasphemy laws. From Babar to Bahadur-Shah-Zafar!

Throughout history, there have been numerous books written harshly about Islam and Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) and there are no issues with raising concerns, asking (extremely tough) questions. The problem these days is the dishonesty and duplicity which is irrittating...

Muslims are not hiding anything (from the top controversial issues) which are discussed:

1. 4 wives
2. Age of Aisha (may God be Pleased with Her)
3. Wars in Islam and by Muslims
4. Rules & Regulations of Jihad
5. etc etc etc

Example:

My dear friend @uppercut has produced a claim from a Christian Apologist "Jay Smith" that Arabic cannot be read without vowels and I have responded and here. There are only two options for anyone who researcheing the topic:

Jay Smith claims that Arabic cannot be read without dots and vowel markings, while I maintain — that Arabic can indeed be, and historically has been, read without them. Engage in a dialogue, dive deeper and arrive at a conclusion, instead of putting "an opinion" down like a gospel and refusing to discuss or (worst, retarct).

Although this is a relatively minor issue and not central to any serious refutation of Islam, the broader attitude it reveals is telling, especially in light of the widespread silence on such points. Years ago, I studied Hinduism at university, though I do not claim to be an expert; there are many far more knowledgeable and experienced in Hindu studies than I am. I am always open to correction on minor details, especially regarding matters I do not engage with daily or where I may not know the most precise answer. In fact, I would welcome the opportunity to ask questions and be corrected.

Similarly, Jay Smith makes other demonstrably false claims — such as asserting that the first recordings of the Prophet Muhammad’s (Peace be upon Him) sayings appeared more than 200 years after his lifetime, or that the Qur'an continued to be revised until 1924 — both of which are easily refuted.

It would be absurd for a Hindu to revere the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) as a prophet, since he or she is not a Muslim. Likewise, it would be absurd for a Muslim to revere Lord Shiva, as he or she is not a Hindu. They will both respect each other's relgious persoanlites and icons but fundamentally both have a different belief system.

Therefore, certain blasphemy-related legal provisions in Islamic law do not apply to non-Muslims in the same way they apply to Muslims.

There are detailed discussions on this topic in Islamic Jurisprudence. I am a nobody, these are just personal opinions...

 

[Suleiman]

Prophet Muhammad PBUH’s dawah (invitation to Islam) to then Byzantine king Heraclius:

(in King Hussein Mosque, Jordan)

Transcript of letter:

In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful. From Muhammad, the slave of Allah and His Messenger, to Hercules, king of the Byzantines. Blessed are those who follow true guidance. I invite you to embrace Islam so that you may live in security. If you come within the fold of Islam, Allah will give you double reward, but in case you turn your back upon it, then the burden of the sins of all your people shall fall on your shoulders. Say (O Muhammad (saw): O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah. Then, if they turn away, say: ‘Bear witness that we are Muslims’.

This what I meant in the OP. Straightforwardness, no sugar coating, yet gentle. صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ

 

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Prophet Muhammad PBUH’s dawah (invitation to Islam) to then Byzantine king Heraclius:

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(in King Hussein Mosque, Jordan)

Transcript of letter:

This what I meant in the OP. Straightforwardness, no sugar coating, yet gentle. صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ

Subhan Allah.

Thanks for sharing.

Sallallahu alaihi wasallam.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Thanks for sharing.

I also have this book called "The Sealed Nectar". It is about the life of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

Great book.

Very Good book.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

MUHAMMAD (PBUH)

 

[sweep_shot]

Very Good book.

Indeed.

I didn't finish the book. Hope to finish it soon. In sha Allah.

 

[Suleiman]

نَّ الْحَمْدَ لِلَّهِ نَحْمَدُهُ وَنَسْتَعِينُهُ مَنْ يَهْدِهِ اللَّهُ فَلاَ مُضِلَّ لَهُ وَمَنْ يُضْلِلِ اللَّهُ فَلاَ هَادِيَ لَهُ وَأَشْهَدُ أَنْ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ وَحْدَهُ لاَ شَرِيكَ لَهُ وَأَشْهَدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا عَبْدُهُ وَرَسُولُهُ أَمَّا بَعْدُ‏

Praise be to Allah, we seek His help. Whomsoever Allah guides will never be led astray, and whomsoever Allah leaves astray, no one can guide. I bear witness that there is none worthy of worship but Allah (alone with no partners) and I bear witness that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger. To proceed…


Will try to share verified Hadith and wisdoms of the prophet PBUH every day In Sha Allah.


Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Allah Almighty said: Verily, I am free of the idolatry of any partners. Whoever performs a deed in which he associates another with Me, I will abandon him to his partner.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2985

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ اللَّهُ تَبَارَكَ وَتَعَالَى أَنَا أَغْنَى الشُّرَكَاءِ عَنْ الشِّرْكِ مَنْ عَمِلَ عَمَلًا أَشْرَكَ فِيهِ مَعِي غَيْرِي تَرَكْتُهُ وَشِرْكَهُ

2985 صحيح مسلم كتاب الزهد والرقائق باب من أشرك في عمله غير الله​

 

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Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Allah Almighty said: Verily, I am free of the idolatry of any partners. Whoever performs a deed in which he associates another with Me, I will abandon him to his partner.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2985

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ اللَّهُ تَبَارَكَ وَتَعَالَى أَنَا أَغْنَى الشُّرَكَاءِ عَنْ الشِّرْكِ مَنْ عَمِلَ عَمَلًا أَشْرَكَ فِيهِ مَعِي غَيْرِي تَرَكْتُهُ وَشِرْكَهُ

2985 صحيح مسلم كتاب الزهد والرقائق باب من أشرك في عمله غير الله​

Sallallahu alaihi wasallam.

Subhan Allah. Great hadith.

Will try to share verified Hadith and wisdoms of the prophet PBUH every day In Sha Allah.

Good idea. I will also try to chip in (in sha Allah).

 

[Suleiman]

Alhamdullilah another blessed Friday

“Indeed, Allah showers His blessings upon the Prophet, and His angels pray for him. O believers! Invoke Allah’s blessings upon him, and salute him with worthy greetings of peace.” (Qur’an, 33:56)

صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ

 

[IndoorCricket]

I have one doubt on Prophet Muhammed (PBUH). Why should anyone be say "Peace be upon him" when he is the perfect role model and God's favorite?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I have one doubt on Prophet Muhammed (PBUH). Why should anyone be say "Peace be upon him" when he is the perfect role model and God's favorite?

What is the doubt? Could you rephrase the question - are you asking why we feel the need to offer salutations to someone who is already blessed by God?

 

[LordJames]

I have one doubt on Prophet Muhammed (PBUH). Why should anyone be say "Peace be upon him" when he is the perfect role model and God's favorite?

That's a very good question—let me try to answer it in two ways:

In Islam, we do not worship or pray to Allah because He needs our worship. Allah is completely independent of His creation, and it makes not the slightest difference to Him whether the entire world prays five times a day or not at all. The purpose of worship is to purify us, the worshippers—it is for our benefit, not His.

Likewise, Allah has elevated the status and honor of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), as mentioned in the Qur’an:

[Surah Ash-Sharh 94:4] “And raised high your renown for you.”

This means that sending blessings and salutations upon the Prophet (peace be upon him) does not add anything to his elevated rank. Rather, it is the one sending these blessings who benefits.

Consider the following naration:

Ubayy ibn Ka‘b (may Allah be pleased with him) said: I asked, “O Messenger of Allah, I send many blessings upon you. How much of my du‘a should I dedicate to sending blessings upon you?” He replied, “As much as you wish.” I asked, “A quarter?” He said, “As much as you wish, and if you do more, it is better for you.” I asked, “Half?” He replied, “As much as you wish, and if you do more, it is better for you.” I said, “Two-thirds?” He again said, “As much as you wish, and if you do more, it is better for you.” Finally, I said, “Then I will dedicate all of my du‘a to sending blessings upon you.” The Prophet (peace be upon him) replied, “Then your worries will be taken care of and your sins will be forgiven.”
— [Tirmidhi]

When a person frequently sends peace and blessings upon the Prophet (peace be upon him), it brings them inner calm, peace of heart, and spiritual benefit.

In summary, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is in no need of our salutations or blessings. His divinely granted status remains unaffected by them. However, those who send them are the ones who gain in both this world and the next.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I have one doubt on Prophet Muhammed (PBUH). Why should anyone be say "Peace be upon him" when he is the perfect role model and God's favorite?

I appreciate your inquisitive mind, hopefully you get your answer from brother @LordJames

 

[Suleiman]

I have one doubt on Prophet Muhammed (PBUH). Why should anyone be say "Peace be upon him" when he is the perfect role model and God's favorite?

That's a very good question—let me try to answer it in two ways:

In Islam, we do not worship or pray to Allah because He needs our worship. Allah is completely independent of His creation, and it makes not the slightest difference to Him whether the entire world prays five times a day or not at all. The purpose of worship is to purify us, the worshippers—it is for our benefit, not His.

Likewise, Allah has elevated the status and honor of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), as mentioned in the Qur’an:

[Surah Ash-Sharh 94:4] “And raised high your renown for you.”

This means that sending blessings and salutations upon the Prophet (peace be upon him) does not add anything to his elevated rank. Rather, it is the one sending these blessings who benefits.

Consider the following naration:



When a person frequently sends peace and blessings upon the Prophet (peace be upon him), it brings them inner calm, peace of heart, and spiritual benefit.

In summary, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is in no need of our salutations or blessings. His divinely granted status remains unaffected by them. However, those who send them are the ones who gain in both this world and the next.

Appreciate the question bro, brother James here answered it way better than I could’ve.

Hope everything makes sense

If not just rephrase it so we can understand you better like brother @DeadlyVenom said.

 

[topspin]

@Suleiman Brother, a beutiful thread, but there are so many Shayateen on this forum now that I am afraid they will start slow attacks, more will follow and the thread will be completely derailed. That is my concern.

They are the dajjal of pakpassion.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

@RexRex @Hitman if I am not mistaken then both of you are Christians, so hopefully this video would be informative for you if not helpful

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[IndoorCricket]

That's a very good question—let me try to answer it in two ways:

In Islam, we do not worship or pray to Allah because He needs our worship. Allah is completely independent of His creation, and it makes not the slightest difference to Him whether the entire world prays five times a day or not at all. The purpose of worship is to purify us, the worshippers—it is for our benefit, not His.

Likewise, Allah has elevated the status and honor of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), as mentioned in the Qur’an:

[Surah Ash-Sharh 94:4] “And raised high your renown for you.”

This means that sending blessings and salutations upon the Prophet (peace be upon him) does not add anything to his elevated rank. Rather, it is the one sending these blessings who benefits.

Consider the following naration:



When a person frequently sends peace and blessings upon the Prophet (peace be upon him), it brings them inner calm, peace of heart, and spiritual benefit.

In summary, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is in no need of our salutations or blessings. His divinely granted status remains unaffected by them. However, those who send them are the ones who gain in both this world and the next.

I understood what you are implying, I might not agree to it but I understand.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

@Suleiman Have you listened to Omar Suleiman's lectures? He is so articulate and explains very well. I love listening to his bayans. He has lectures on our beloved Prophet SAW being the best among all.

 

[Suleiman]

@Suleiman Have you listened to Omar Suleiman's lectures? He is so articulate and explains very well. I love listening to his bayans. He has lectures on our beloved Prophet SAW being the best among all.

Bro what’s crazy is one of my best friends who grew up in a Christian household (and then became agnostic) is now finding his way back to God through Omar Suleiman’s lectures.

He texted me couple weeks back that he was driving cross country to see his girlfriend and binge watched / listened to Omar Suleiman’s lectures on sahaba he never knew of, on the day of judgement and on Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and since then been hooked on Islamic lectures and now uses phrases like Allah yerhamo (may Allah have mercy on him) which I’ve never used with him before haha.

He is a massive Omar Suleiman fan.

And mind you this good friend of mine during college days was a party animal and religion was last thing on his mind.

Me personally I watch Sheikh Uthman Ibn Farooq’s lectures on the Seerah. He makes sure to narrate only from saheeh Hadith. And starts from all the way back since beginning of creation, all the prophets leading up the Prophet Muhammad PBUH and all the signs before Prophet Muhammad PBUH was born / before prophethood in historic accounts.

Life of the Messenger ﷺ - السيرة النبوية

السيرة النبوية من الأحاديث الصحيحة

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[BunnyRabbit]

Bro what’s crazy is one of my best friends who grew up in a Christian household (and then became agnostic) is now finding his way back to God through Omar Suleiman’s lectures.

He texted me couple weeks back that he was driving cross country to see his girlfriend and binge watched / listened to Omar Suleiman’s lectures on sahaba he never knew of, on the day of judgement and on Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and since then been hooked on Islamic lectures and now uses phrases like Allah yerhamo (may Allah have mercy on him) which I’ve never used with him before haha.

He is a massive Omar Suleiman fan.

And mind you this good friend of mine during college days was a party animal and religion was last thing on his mind.

Me personally I watch Sheikh Uthman Ibn Farooq’s lectures on the Seerah. He makes sure to narrate only from saheeh Hadith. And starts from all the way back since beginning of creation, all the prophets leading up the Prophet Muhammad PBUH and all the signs before Prophet Muhammad PBUH was born / before prophethood in historic accounts.

Life of the Messenger ﷺ - السيرة النبوية

السيرة النبوية من الأحاديث الصحيحة

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It's such a great news of your friend. Religion can change anyone at any point in time.
I have listened to Sheikh Uthman Ibn Farooq's lectures as well.
I love Omar Suleiman's lectures and how he puts the trials and tribulations of the prophets into perspective in terms of how we should go about our life.
I also love Yasir Qadhi and Dr Israr's lectures.
Dr Israr was a bonafide legend of urdu lectures in South Asia.
Talking about seerah, I would strongly recommend Furqan Qureshi blogs seerah Nabi series (if you can understand Urdu). The guy has a brilliant soothing voice and narrates it beautifully.

 

[sweep_shot]

Will try to share verified Hadith and wisdoms of the prophet PBUH every day In Sha Allah.

Here's a Hadith I stumbled upon today:

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said, "The strong is not the one who overcomes the people by his strength, but the strong is the one who controls himself while in anger." (Bukhari 6114)

Sahih al-Bukhari 6114 - Good Manners and Form (Al-Adab) - كتاب الأدب - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

Sallallahu alaihi wasallam.

 

[Suleiman]

@sweep_shot @LordJames @BunnyRabbit

 

[BunnyRabbit]

@sweep_shot @LordJames @BunnyRabbit

I have followed Adnan Rashid and Dawahwise team for over 3 years as I am a big fan of Abrahamic theology.
Their debates with Ahmadis were probably the most watched ones. You can look at them on their yt channel. From the same group, Muhammad Imtiaz is a more learned scholar of Islamic religion much more so than Adnan.
I didn't like the Shia Sunni debates recently he had with Allahyari as it quickly turned to mass spams over twitter by allahyari's followers.
Adnan has his faults as well. I have always been a believer of not ascribing to the various post Prophet Muhammad SAW sectarian divide as Islam came without divisions. Adnan has a tendancy to go into the sectarian stuff which IMO doesn't sit well with the essence of Islam.

 

[BouncerGuy]

When you dont know the reality, you should not make statements .

 

[Farhan The Man]

I quoted empirical facts.

Documented in detail. Sourced from sahih hadees.

Please do inform of your alternate reality. Not opinion or hearsay.

 

[rpant_gabba]

When you dont know the reality, you should not make statements .

Would you mind expanding on you statement and point out the errors in Farhan's post?

 

[uppercut]

I quoted empirical facts.

Documented in detail. Sourced from sahih hadees.

Please do inform of your alternate reality. Not opinion or hearsay.

pls tag me if you ever get a response.

 

[Justcrazy]

You got your answer !

PS: In Hinduism its ... "Sarva dharma smabhava and sarve jana sukhino bhavantu" and this was written 1000s of yrs ago when there existed no real religious competition to Hinduism.

where is it written ?

 

[Justcrazy]

Jay Smith claims that Arabic cannot be read without dots and vowel markings, while I maintain — that Arabic can indeed be, and historically has been, read without them.

I am surprised that someone can make such a stupid claim. Any linguistic person should know that old books in arabic were without vowels.

 

[Farhan The Man]

pls tag me if you ever get a response.

He won't.

That's why they resort to censorship to bury this truth. But facts are in the pudding.

The world witnesses a rampaging, murderous religion. With clueless followers. At perpetual loggerheads with others.

 

[Justcrazy]

I have followed Adnan Rashid and Dawahwise team for over 3 years as I am a big fan of Abrahamic theology.
Their debates with Ahmadis were probably the most watched ones. You can look at them on their yt channel. From the same group, Muhammad Imtiaz is a more learned scholar of Islamic religion much more so than Adnan.
I didn't like the Shia Sunni debates recently he had with Allahyari as it quickly turned to mass spams over twitter by allahyari's followers.
Adnan has his faults as well. I have always been a believer of not ascribing to the various post Prophet Muhammad SAW sectarian divide as Islam came without divisions. Adnan has a tendancy to go into the sectarian stuff which IMO doesn't sit well with the essence of Islam.

Adnan Rashid should stick to debating Christians and Ahmedis , when he is debating shias , he has pre conceived notion to prove them as disbelievers , he then tends to go into denial mode and starts making absurd tawils. ( excuses).

Trust me whenever there is a debate between shia and sunnis , generally sunnis get emotional and start making personal attacks , several times rejecting authentic hadeeth somehow.

 

[uppercut]

where is it written ?

The verse “Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam” (The world is one family), alongside Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah are from the Maha Upinishad written more than 2000 years ago.

Sarva Dharma Samabhava is inspired by this Rigveda verse "Ekam Sat Vipra Bahudha Vadanti" (Truth is One, the wise call it by many names ) and the Bhagwad Gita that says ... all paths lead to me.

The main difference between Abrahamic and Hindu concepts of religious tolerence is that the Abrahamic idea of tolerance implies: “I may put up with your belief system(conditions apply)" whereas the Hindu Sarva Dharma Sambhava implies: “I see divinity in your path too and the Parsi community in India are the most famous example of this concept put into practice for more than a 1000 yrs !!"​

 

[uppercut]

I am surprised that someone can make such a stupid claim. Any linguistic person should know that old books in arabic were without vowels.

doesn't make sense ... why were the dots and vowels needed to be invented in the 1st place if there was no issues without them ?

 

[Major]

It sucks that people want to follow how the Prophet used to drink water, or eat food. But no one wants to follow his sayings on how one should refrain from sinning, cheating on partners, controlling your anger etc..

A role model indeed, but people only use his name to fit their own narratives but never to introspect.

 

[sweep_shot]

It sucks that people want to follow how the Prophet used to drink water, or eat food. But no one wants to follow his sayings on how one should refrain from sinning, cheating on partners, controlling your anger etc..

A role model indeed, but people only use his name to fit their own narratives but never to introspect.

We have to try our best to follow him (PBUH) as much as possible.

Even if it is 2%, that's better than 0%.

 

[Suleiman]

It sucks that people want to follow how the Prophet used to drink water, or eat food. But no one wants to follow his sayings on how one should refrain from sinning, cheating on partners, controlling your anger etc..

A role model indeed, but people only use his name to fit their own narratives but never to introspect.

True. Role model in all facets of life but sadly we pick and choose what facets to follow and when to ignore. Or even worse, misrepresent and misconstrue and misquote to justify our shortcomings.

I understand it’s easier to follow certain Sunnah, and we should do what we can, but doesn’t mean we ignore the actions that seemingly take more effort like controlling anger and being just.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Adnan Rashid should stick to debating Christians and Ahmedis , when he is debating shias , he has pre conceived notion to prove them as disbelievers , he then tends to go into denial mode and starts making absurd tawils. ( excuses).

Trust me whenever there is a debate between shia and sunnis , generally sunnis get emotional and start making personal attacks , several times rejecting authentic hadeeth somehow.

Like I said, Imtiaz is a more knowledgeable person in terms of religion.
No one is saying Shia are disbelievers. There are extremists on both sides accusing the ones of either side to be disbelievers.

 

[Major]

We have to try our best to follow him (PBUH) as much as possible.

Even if it is 2%, that's better than 0%.

i dont get it. The way he eats or drinks is not important. Whats important is his sayings on being just and being faithful. I know people that act religious, while married, and still cheat on their spouse.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

i dont get it. The way he eats or drinks is not important. Whats important is his sayings on being just and being faithful. I know people that act religious, while married, and still cheat on their spouse.

Everything is important about Prophet Muhammad SAW. He is the basis of our belief. You are in no position to say this aspect of his life is not important. The key is to emulate him fully. If it's 2%, the goal is to increase it to 100%. No questions.
Those who do vile things and act religious simply aren't following Islam correctly. You can't attribute it to Prophet Muhammad SAW.

 

[Major]

Everything is important about Prophet Muhammad SAW. He is the basis of our belief. You are in no position to say this aspect of his life is not important. The key is to emulate him fully. If it's 2%, the goal is to increase it to 100%. No questions.
Those who do vile things and act religious simply aren't following Islam correctly. You can't attribute it to Prophet Muhammad SAW.

You missed the point... nevermind

 

[Suleiman]

I understand what our bro @Major is saying. With respect he’s trying to say that there’s certain aspects of the life and Sunnah of Rasullulah SAW that are far more important to follow than what he ate.

If you are following the sunnah of what foods he ate but are lashing out in anger, are unjust to your wife etc, then what are you doing?

That’s what he means. Ofc we should try to follow many things as possible but some of those are just habits like what he liked to eat or drink, and you can differentiate on that.

But on the major sunnah in terms of character and good qualities we should prioritize them. That’s what he’s trying to say. And that’s true.

Not all aadat (habits like what he SAW liked to eat or drink) are necessary to follow as much as the massive lessons and concepts he commanded us to follow like our conduct toward each other and the like (this outside of food and drink that is outright haram). There’s no compromising on the Sunnah that he heavily emphasized on especially when it’s regarding to character and conduct like anger and faithfulness to spouse.

Everything is important about Prophet Muhammad SAW. He is the basis of our belief. You are in no position to say this aspect of his life is not important. The key is to emulate him fully. If it's 2%, the goal is to increase it to 100%. No questions.
Those who do vile things and act religious simply aren't following Islam correctly. You can't attribute it to Prophet Muhammad SAW.

 

[Boyka]

i dont get it. The way he eats or drinks is not important. Whats important is his sayings on being just and being faithful. I know people that act religious, while married, and still cheat on their spouse.

To connect with God takes discipline and responsibility, you find it in the Quran. A book of parables and reminders to use and develop a much larger frame of mind.

It’s easier to use the sayings of the prophet to cherry pick and ascribe your own religiosity and misunderstandings. The misuse of Hadith causes a lot of issues for Muslims and non Muslims alike.

 

[Suleiman]

To connect with God takes discipline and responsibility, you find it in the Quran. A book of parables and reminders to use and develop a much larger frame of mind.

It’s easier to use the sayings of the prophet to cherry pick and ascribe your own religiosity and misunderstandings. The misuse of Hadith causes a lot of issues for Muslims and non Muslims alike.

agreed. Certain things are very optional habits like what he liked to eat, but others are actual recommendations we should follow. E.g growing the beard and trimming the moustache. Esp not those disgusting walrus like mustaches with everything else clean shaven like we see in mushrik lands but now sadly see in Pak and Middle East as well.

The majooos ambassadors who visited the Prophet PBUH and who worshipped fire disgusted him so much with that mustache’d look that he looked away in disgust.

Can’t say “well because I haven’t mastered [insert overarching character trait that takes time develop] then I’m not going to do the actual recommended Sunnah that I can apply immediately”

Work on both. Ofc if you are unfaithful to your wife and physically abusive, take care of that ASAP but it doesn’t mean you put everything off forever. Esp things you can do almost immediately.

It’s on us to learn what Sunnah are heavily recommended regarding character traits, appearance, and habits and which ones are completely optional and not obligated at all whatsoever like favorite foods and drink.

 

[Justcrazy]

The verse “Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam” (The world is one family), alongside Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah are from the Maha Upinishad written more than 2000 years ago.

Sarva Dharma Samabhava is inspired by this Rigveda verse "Ekam Sat Vipra Bahudha Vadanti" (Truth is One, the wise call it by many names ) and the Bhagwad Gita that says ... all paths lead to me.

The main difference between Abrahamic and Hindu concepts of religious tolerence is that the Abrahamic idea of tolerance implies: “I may put up with your belief system(conditions apply)" whereas the Hindu Sarva Dharma Sambhava implies: “I see divinity in your path too and the Parsi community in India are the most famous example of this concept put into practice for more than a 1000 yrs !!"​

So you accept Upanishads ?

 

[Justcrazy]

Like I said, Imtiaz is a more knowledgeable person in terms of religion.
No one is saying Shia are disbelievers. There are extremists on both sides accusing the ones of either side to be disbelievers.

All these popular speakers you see on youtube , the so called salafis are anti shia. That is not the issue , they may have personal opinion , the issue is when they try to misrepresent hadeeth and hide certain facts. That is a dangerous thing to do.

 

[Farhan The Man]

actual recommendations we should follow. E.g growing the beard and trimming the moustache.

There is no compulsion. Like this one.

It is more to do with barelvi indoctrination. Converts from south asia predominantly.

This cohort is the lowest strata of muslims. Exclusively ritualistic with minimal critical analysis capabilities.

 

[LordJames]

doesn't make sense ... why were the dots and vowels needed to be invented in the 1st place if there was no issues without them ?

Already answered at least 5 times and here is the 6th time.

As Islam spread, two broad new groups entered the faith:

1. Arabs – who didn’t speak the dialect of Makkah in which the Qur’an was revealed.
2. Non-Arabs – who didn’t speak Arabic at all.

Islam doesn’t require believers to fully understand Arabic, but it does require the correct pronunciation of certain portions of the Qur’an—enough for daily prayers and core rituals.

The companions of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) didn’t face this challenge—they learned directly from him, heard the Qur’an recited firsthand, memorized it, and some transcribed it onto parchments, leaves, or other materials.

To help those outside that immediate circle—especially non-native speakers—accurately and precisely pronounce the Qur’an as it was revealed, diacritical marks (dots) and vowels were added. Today, all Muslim children—Arab or not—begin with the Arabic alphabet and basic vowels. And despite these aids, millions have gone on to memorize the Qur’an entirely, to the point where they no longer need a physical script, let alone the vowels or dots.

As a small test: most Muslims reading this forum will likely recite a Qur’anic passage from memory with perfect pronunciation. Even if all dots and vowels were removed, they’d still read it correctly. But, of course, there was a time when they couldn’t—and those diacritics were crucial in learning.

And for the third time, here’s a link to Al Jazeera (Arabic) with the latest headline—it contains no vowels.

المواجهة بين إسرائيل وإيران.. قصف متبادل ونتنياهو يتوعّد بالقضاء على النووي الإيراني​

I am a "non-Arab" and I can read, pronounce and understand it perfectly fine. In fact I suspect that most "non-Arabs" on this forum will be read most of the words with little difficulty and yet —it contains no vowels.

 

[pakistanisgreat]

doesn't make sense ... why were the dots and vowels needed to be invented in the 1st place if there was no issues without them ?

These part of their grammar and punctuations/pronunciation. Every language has its own rules and regulations which you should know better.
How would non Indian lean Hindi?

 

[uppercut]

So you accept Upanishads ?

Not sure what you mean by that ... pls elaborate

 

[Farhan The Man]

Islam doesn’t require believers to fully understand Arabic, but it does require the correct pronunciation of certain portions of the Qur’an—enough for daily prayers and core rituals.

Ditto.

Regurgitate foreign words. Daily. Without understanding its meaning. Ever.

Great argument there.

 

[sweep_shot]

doesn't make sense ... why were the dots and vowels needed to be invented in the 1st place if there was no issues without them ?

It doesn't make sense to you because you are neither a Muslim nor you are proficient in Arabic.

You are simply making a fool out of yourself at this point.