Protest against Quran-burning turns violent in Sweden

[pakistan cricket fan]

Protesters against the burning of a Koran by far-right supporters in Sweden have clashed with police during several hours of rioting.

Cars were set on fire and shop fronts were damaged in the clashes in the southern city of Malmö which have now been brought under control. There were several arrests.

Earlier on Friday, police barred far-right Danish politician Rasmus Paludan from attending the Koran-burning rally.

His supporters went ahead regardless.

Swedish police turned Mr Paludan back at the border, saying there was a two-year entry ban for him.

The head of the Danish far-right Stram Kurs (Hard Line) party was given a month in jail for a string of offences including racism in Denmark early this year.

He was convicted of posting anti-Islam videos on his party's social media channels.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53959492

 

[sweep_shot]

This is silly. Why burn a religious book?

If you don't like the book, just ignore.

Far-right people need new hobbies.

 

[pakistan cricket fan]

I am surprised nobody is talking about this news.

 

[pakistan cricket fan]

This is silly. Why burn a religious book?

If you don't like the book, just ignore.

Far-right people need new hobbies.

They are cowards.

 

[Abdullah719]

This is silly. Why burn a religious book?

If you don’t like the book, just ignore.

Far-right people need new hobbies.

They probably did it to trigger a response and they got what they wanted…

 

[Firebat]

Riots break out in Sweden as hundreds protest against far-right activists burning the Quran

Rioting broke out in the Swedish city of Malmo after hundreds gathered to oppose the burning of the Quran by far-right activists.

Rioters set fires and threw objects at police and emergency services and 15 people were detained after more than 300 people gathered in protest, police said.

“We don’t have this under control but we are working actively to take control,” a police spokesperson said on Friday evening.

“We see a connection between what is happening now and what happened earlier today,” the spokesperson said.

The riots erupted after a group of far-right activists gathered to burn Islam's holy book in an industrial area on the city's south side.

Local reports said the anti-Islam protests were sparked after Rasmus Paludan, leader of far-right Danish party Hard Line, was held up at the Swedish border and denied permission to hold a meeting in Malmo. Mr Paludan was on his way to hold a meeting on the supposed "Islamisation of the Nordic countries", according to the Daily Aftonbladet, a Swedish national newspaper.

Mr Paludan had reportedly been invited to speak by street artist and provocateur Dan Park, who has previously been convicted for inciting ethnic hatred.

“We suspect that he was going to break the law in Sweden,” Calle Persson, spokesperson for Malmo police told AFP, “there was also a risk that his behaviour ... would pose a threat to society.”

The riots kicked off late in the evening and did not settle down until around 3am, the Daily Aftonbladet reported.

The newspaper also reported that other islamophobic incidents had taken place around Malmo in the daytime on Friday, including the arrest of a group of three men who were kicking around a copy of the Quran in a central market square.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-burn-far-right-protest-arrests-a9695286.html

 

[Firebat]

This is silly. Why burn a religious book?

If you don't like the book, just ignore.

Far-right people need new hobbies.

To alt-right activists it's not just a political position, like me or you have. They are motivated by pure hatred and bigotry, they will not stop until they get rid of what they perceive is the root cause of their country's issue. In this case, it is Muslims and the "Islamisation of the Nordic countries". It is not enough to just dislike the Quran or dislike Muslims, they must eradicate them and "cure" their country of them.

 

[Gullycricket]

Always these Danish far right people bring trouble

 

[Gilly]

Always these Danish far right people bring trouble

But it wasn't the Danish far right that caused the trouble.

 

[gani999]

Sweden has traditionally been one of the most peace loving and human rights respecting countries on the planet. It has no history of slavery, colonisation, islamophobia or racism. And we have right wing nutjobs burning the Koran in Sweden nowadays? What's the world coming to?

Looks like Swedish muslims need to do some serious introspection.

 

[Abdullah719]

For some reason, this story has been one of the top trends of the day on Twitter in… India.

 

[Thomaskutty]

For some reason, this story has been one of the top trends of the day on Twitter in… India.

Violent rioting and fires is a highly abnormal and extremist response to a book being burnt.

 

[sweep_shot]

Violent rioting and fires is a highly abnormal and extremist response to a book being burnt.

It is a holy book.

Would you be happy if Muslims start burning Hindu holy books?

I am not saying violence is the answer. I am saying why provoke?

 

[sweep_shot]

Sweden has traditionally been one of the most peace loving and human rights respecting countries on the planet. It has no history of slavery, colonisation, islamophobia or racism. And we have right wing nutjobs burning the Koran in Sweden nowadays? What's the world coming to?

Looks like Swedish muslims need to do some serious introspection.

What kind of introspection are you looking for?

ISIS is long dead. These far-right idiots just want to continue their crusade. They probably are jobless and have nothing better to do.

I know one Canadian unemployed far-right woman who makes money by posting anti-Islam videos. These people probably are not qualified for real jobs.

 

[Abdullah719]

Violent rioting and fires is a highly abnormal and extremist response to a book being burnt.

And I didn’t say otherwise… go on.

 

[King_Kohli]

Violent rioting and fires is a highly abnormal and extremist response to a book being burnt.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In this week itself I saw plenty of videos and pictures humiliating Hindu Gods, even using our holy books as toilet paper, we didn’t hurt a single innocent being, love this tolerance of Hinduism but intolerance of Islam has made me stop going to mosques, SHAME.. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/swedenriots?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#swedenriots</a></p>— Kangana Ranaut (@KanganaTeam) <a href="https://twitter.com/KanganaTeam/status/1299619948839403520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Thomaskutty]

Would you be happy if Muslims start burning Hindu holy books?

I couldn't care less.

 

[sweep_shot]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In this week itself I saw plenty of videos and pictures humiliating Hindu Gods, even using our holy books as toilet paper, we didn’t hurt a single innocent being, love this tolerance of Hinduism but intolerance of Islam has made me stop going to mosques, SHAME.. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/swedenriots?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#swedenriots</a></p>— Kangana Ranaut (@KanganaTeam) <a href="https://twitter.com/KanganaTeam/status/1299619948839403520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Don't Hindus in India lynch people for disrespecting cows or eating beef?

Not all Muslims are violent and not all Hindus participate in lynching.

Generalization is a bad thing.

 

[Gilly]

Don't Hindus in India lynch people for disrespecting cows or eating beef?

Not all Muslims are violent and not all Hindus participate in lynching.

Generalization is a bad thing.

You mean like generalizing about the far right?.

 

[sweep_shot]

You mean like generalizing about the far right?.

Generalizing about far-right and generalizing about a religious group are two different things.

Far-right, by definition, is an extreme form of right. All extremes are bad (including religious extremism).

So, yes. Generalizing about far-right is fine. We shouldn't support far-right or far-left. Both are bad.

 

[Gilly]

Generalizing about far-right and generalizing about a religious group are two different things.

Far-right, by definition, is an extreme form of right. All extremes are bad (including religious extremism).

So, yes. Generalizing about far-right is fine. We shouldn't support far-right or far-left. Both are bad.

What have the far right in Sweden done that makes them bad. Just because they have different views to you does not make them bad. I have different views to them but that just makes us different and not me good and them bad.

 

[sweep_shot]

What have the far right in Sweden done that makes them bad. Just because they have different views to you does not make them bad. I have different views to them but that just makes us different and not me good and them bad.

Are you saying far-right folks are good people? I understand you support Donald Trump but it is shocking to me that you are defending far-right.

By your definition, ISIS folks are not bad guys because they have different views.

I used to visit 4Chan, 8Chan, and 16Chan (out of curiosity). I know what these far-right folks discuss. They openly talk about using violence against people. NZ mosque shooter was from 8Chan.

 

[sweep_shot]

It makes me laugh when some Indians defend these far-right people. They want you gone also.

They call you curry, pajeet, and other derogatory things. Just visit their boards and see what they write.

 

[Gilly]

Are you saying far-right folks are good people? I understand you support Donald Trump but it is shocking to me that you are defending far-right.

By your definition, ISIS folks are not bad guys because they have different views.

I used to visit 4Chan, 8Chan, and 16Chan (out of curiosity). I know what these far-right folks discuss. They openly talk about using violence against people. NZ mosque shooter was from 8Chan.

I'm not defending the far right, I'm not going to judge them on what someone else has said on ch whatever. I'm going to judge them on their actions.

You understand wrong and I'm tired of this misunderstanding, I dont support Trump, I just dont have a hatred for him, once again I judge him on his actions (not CNN's MSNBC trump derangement syndrome)

Dead right I don't think ISIS are bad guys because of their views, I think they are bad guys because they kill people.

Linking the mosque shooter to ch8 would be like linking ISIS to mosques.

 

[Gilly]

It makes me laugh when some Indians defend these far-right people. They want you gone also.

They call you curry, pajeet, and other derogatory things. Just visit their boards and see what they write.

You are doing a good job defending the religious extremist that clashed with police, burn cars and set fire to shops.

 

[sweep_shot]

You are doing a good job defending the religious extremist that clashed with police, burn cars and set fire to shops.

Where did I defend them? Show the post where I defended them.

I clearly wrote violence is not the answer. But, I also wrote provocation should stop.

 

[Gilly]

Where did I defend them? Show the post where I defended them.

I clearly wrote violence is not the answer. But, I also wrote provocation should stop.

My apologies, can you show me where you condemned them, I see you have condemned the far right but just cant seem to locate where you condemned the extremists.

 

[sweep_shot]

I'm not defending the far right, I'm not going to judge them on what someone else has said on ch whatever. I'm going to judge them on their actions.

You understand wrong and I'm tired of this misunderstanding, I dont support Trump, I just dont have a hatred for him, once again I judge him on his actions (not CNN's MSNBC trump derangement syndrome)

Dead right I don't think ISIS are bad guys because of their views, I think they are bad guys because they kill people.

Linking the mosque shooter to ch8 would be like linking ISIS to mosques.

Have you ever been to Pol (Politically Incorrect) board of 8Chan? There is a reason why that board was forced to shut down. Multiple shooters over the past 2 years originated from that board (Texas Walmart shooter, Poway synagogue shooter, and NZ mosque shooter).

 

[sweep_shot]

My apologies, can you show me where you condemned them, I see you have condemned the far right but just cant seem to locate where you condemned the extremists.

There you go: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...rns-violent-in-Sweden&p=10868243#post10868243.

I clearly wrote violence is not the answer.

However, if these far-right folks provoke and throw in the first punch, they may get a fight. That's how human nature works.

 

[Gilly]

Have you ever been to Pol (Politically Incorrect) board of 8Chan? There is a reason why that board was forced to shut down. Multiple shooters over the past 2 years originated from that board (Texas Walmart shooter, Poway synagogue shooter, and NZ mosque shooter).

Never even heard of chan8 until the mosque shooter was linked to it and even then I thought they said it was chan4.

 

[sweep_shot]

Never even heard of chan8 until the mosque shooter was linked to it and even then I thought they said it was chan4.

See? You don't know much about these boards. I have visited these boards for a while just to see what they were up to.

NZ shooter was from 8Chan. Not 4Chan.

8Chan was an extreme version of 4Chan. They openly discussed things like building homemade guns and killing people.

 

[Gilly]

There you go: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...rns-violent-in-Sweden&p=10868243#post10868243.

I clearly wrote violence is not the answer.

However, if these far-right folks provoke and throw in the first punch, they may get a fight. That's how human nature works.

It is a holy book.

Would you be happy if Muslims start burning Hindu holy books?

I am not saying violence is the answer. I am saying why provoke?

This in your books is what you call condemning the extremists for burning cars, assaulting police and burning down shops.

It looks more like you are defending them saying they were provoked.

 

[sweep_shot]

This in your books is what you call condemning the extremists for burning cars, assaulting police and burning down shops.

It looks more like you are defending them saying they were provoked.

I didn't do these acts myself. I am not responsible for how other people behave. What these people have done are wrong just like what far-right people do are wrong.

There you go.

Do you condemn all the violent acts from far-right?

 

[Gilly]

See? You don't know much about these boards. I have visited these boards for many years just to see what they were up to.

NZ shooter was from 8Chan. Not 4Chan.

8Chan was more extreme version of 4Chan.

See what?.

 

[Gilly]

I didn't do these acts myself. I am not responsible for how other people behave. What these people have done are wrong just like what far-right people do are wrong.

There you go.

The far right had a permit to protest and that is their constitutional right, they were peacful and did no harm to anybody. What are you condemning them for, what did they do wrong?.

 

[Gilly]

Do you condemn all the violent acts from far-right?

I condemn all violence regardless of what identity politics you use to describe them including police.

 

[sweep_shot]

See what?.

The fact you barely know anything about these boards. These boards have different sections and some sections openly talk about illegal things.

The far right had a permit to protest and that is their constitutional right, they were peacful and did no harm to anybody. What are you condemning them for, what did they do wrong?.

It is not just about this particular incident. I was saying in general.

 

[sweep_shot]

The far right had a permit to protest and that is their constitutional right, they were peacful and did no harm to anybody. What are you condemning them for, what did they do wrong?.

It was not just a protest though. It was a disorderly conduct. Burning a holy book is a disorderly conduct in my book. They should be arrested.

Burning any religious book should be illegal (whether it is Quran, Bible, or Hindu book).

Again, it is just a suggestion. I am not saying it has to be implemented. I thought west supports freedom of speech.

 

[Gilly]

It was not just a protest though. It was a disorderly conduct. Burning a holy book is a disorderly conduct in my book. They should be arrested.

Burning any religious book should be illegal (whether it is Quran, Bible, or Hindu book).

Again, it is just a suggestion. I am not saying it has to be implemented. I thought west supports freedom of speech.

Well you are completely wrong, it is not disorderly conduct. In Sweden you are allowed to burn books bibles, korans, hindu book or any other book.

 

[Gilly]

The fact you barely know anything about these boards. These boards have different sections and some sections openly talk about illegal things.



It is not just about this particular incident. I was saying in general.

A couple of posts ago you said Generalization is bad thing

 

[sweep_shot]

Well you are completely wrong, it is not disorderly conduct. In Sweden you are allowed to burn books bibles, korans, hindu book or any other book.

What is the definition of disorderly conduct according to you?

Here is what I found from Google:

What is Disorderly Conduct?
In an effort to keep communities running smoothly, calmly, and peacefully, states and municipalities have numerous laws that limit what people can do. Whenever people engage in conduct that is likely to cause a disturbance or lead to some sort of non-peaceful event, this behavior is often prosecuted as disorderly conduct, sometimes referred to as “breach of the peace.” Disorderly conduct charges are quite common when rambunctious, and often intoxicated, people gather in groups or engage in outrageous public displays. As you may imagine, disorderly conduct is probably one of the most commonly filed criminal charges in any jurisdiction.

It sure seems like a disorderly conduct to me.

 

[sweep_shot]

A couple of posts ago you said Generalization is bad thing

You are now being petty. You are deflecting.

 

[sweep_shot]

A couple of posts ago you said Generalization is bad thing

We are going in circles. Here are my stances just to be clear:

1) I condemn far-right for their disorderly conducts, constant provocations, and violence.
2) I condemn all religious extremist groups and unnecessary violence.
3) I believe religious books should be protected from harms. There should be laws against burning holy books to keep societal harmony.

I am not saying #3 has to be implemented. It is just a suggestion.

 

[Giannis]

I don't know about Australia since it's a British backwater but in most of the developed world what the right wing extremists did would be considered a breach of peace and incitement. Now they're whining that they got beat up.

 

[gani999]

What kind of introspection are you looking for?

ISIS is long dead. These far-right idiots just want to continue their crusade. They probably are jobless and have nothing better to do.

I know one Canadian unemployed far-right woman who makes money by posting anti-Islam videos. These people probably are not qualified for real jobs.

It's not about ISIS.

It's about how the denizens of a tolerant, peace loving society with no history of racism or islamophobia can get so ****** off with a certain group of immigrants that they should resort to burning their holy book in public.

I'm sure the right wing Swede got no money for burning the Koran. Sweden takes care of its unemployed very well. There is no need for them to resort to cheap tricks to make money.

It is very clear that Muslim immigrants in Sweden, atleast a section of them, have abused their freedoms in their adopted society and have taken things for granted.

 

[sweep_shot]

It's not about ISIS.

It's about how the denizens of a tolerant, peace loving society with no history of racism or islamophobia can get so ****** off with a certain group of immigrants that they should resort to burning their holy book in public.

I'm sure the right wing Swede got no money for burning the Koran. Sweden takes care of its unemployed very well. There is no need for them to resort to cheap tricks to make money.

It is very clear that Muslim immigrants in Sweden, atleast a section of them, have abused their freedoms in their adopted society and have taken things for granted.

You are defending welfare junkies. It is funny.

What you don't realize is many of these people make money by making these propaganda (anti-Islam, anti-immigrant etc.) videos. That's how they pay their bills. If there is no drama, they create something out of thin air.

Do you think anyone can behave like this and still keep a job? That person will likely get fired.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I think in countries where you are minority, the protests should remain peaceful, or countered by love mongering. The provocation must be used as an opportunity to build a good image as a minority. The violent protests, although justified, are counterproductive and is what the provocateurs really want.

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

These far right groups are nuts as usual and we muslims also are naive to fall in their traps. Protests could be done but strictly in peaceful ways. Better solution would be to showcase patience and love as our Prophet(PBUH) was send as a mercy for the whole world.

 

[Nadeemp]

I think you should be able to burn any book U want. I don’t understand what these right wing nuts gain by doing it. I assume they were looking for a reaction, and they got it. If muslims just ignore this 2-3 times. These nut jobs will move on to something else.

 

[Ashmal]

It is very clear that Muslim immigrants in Sweden, atleast a section of them, have abused their freedoms in their adopted society and have taken things for granted.

Wow....what a justification

 

[Ashmal]

Violence is never the answer it just defeats the purpose of a protest.
We need to counter Islamophobia in a smarter way

 

[Gilly]

What is the definition of disorderly conduct according to you?

Here is what I found from Google:



It sure seems like a disorderly conduct to me.

Well its not disorderly conduct, they have every right to burn books.

Disorderly conduct is when you breach the peace by doing something that is against the law like being intoxicated or inciting. It is quite clear that burning books is NOT disorderly conduct.

 

[sweep_shot]

Well its not disorderly conduct, they have every right to burn books.

Disorderly conduct is when you breach the peace by doing something that is against the law like being intoxicated or inciting. It is quite clear that burning books is NOT disorderly conduct.

So, is this not inciting? LOL.

 

[Gilly]

I think you should be able to burn any book U want. I don’t understand what these right wing nuts gain by doing it. I assume they were looking for a reaction, and they got it. If muslims just ignore this 2-3 times. These nut jobs will move on to something else.

There have proved a point though, muslims will break the laws of Sweden if people dont follow their interpretation of the law.

 

[Gilly]

So, is this not inciting? LOL.

No its not, to incite you have to incite people to do something that is against the law. Burning books is not against the law.

The only people that broke any laws were the muslims when they burned cars assaulted police and burned shops.

 

[sweep_shot]

There have proved a point though, muslims will break the laws of Sweden if people dont follow their interpretation of the law.

Did all Swedish Muslims participate in violence?

 

[Gilly]

Did all Swedish Muslims participate in violence?

Did all far right people burn korans?.

 

[sweep_shot]

No its not, to incite you have to incite people to do something that is against the law. Burning books is not against the law.

The only people that broke any laws were the muslims when they burned cars assaulted police and burned shops.

You are contradicting yourself. They have incited Muslims by your own definition.

 

[sweep_shot]

Did all far right people burn korans?.

Some far-right folks burned it and some Muslims were violent.

Please see this post: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...rns-violent-in-Sweden&p=10868263#post10868263.

 

[Gilly]

You are contradicting yourself. They have incited Muslims by your own definition.

You don't seem to have a good grasp of law, the far right did not do anything illegal. They had every right to burn books.

 

[sweep_shot]

You don't seem to have a good grasp of law, the far right did not do anything illegal. They had every right to burn books.

You seem to have a lack of understanding (or faulty understanding) of what disorderly conduct and incitement are.

 

[Gilly]

Some far-right folks burned it and some Muslims were violent.

Please see this post: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...rns-violent-in-Sweden&p=10868263#post10868263.

Exactly but the difference is the far right didn't break any laws and the muslims did break the laws.

 

[Abdullah719]

Riots in Sweden after far-right activists burn copy of Quran

At least 10 people were arrested in southern Sweden and several police officers injured in violence triggered by an illegal protest where a copy of the Quran was burned.

Protesters in Malmo city threw stones at police and burned tyres on the streets late on Friday, with violence escalating as the night wore on, according to police and local media.

The demonstration of about 300 people was connected to a rally earlier on Friday in which far-right activists burned a copy of the Muslim holy book in Rosengard, a largely migrant neighbourhood, police spokesman Rickard Lundqvist told Swedish tabloid, Expressen.

Anti-Muslim Danish politician Rasmus Paludan was expected to attend that rally, but was stopped by the police at the Swedish-Danish border, police said.

Between 10 and 20 protesters were arrested late on Friday for the violence and “have all been released,” police spokesman Patric Fors told AFP news agency.

The violence had subsided by Saturday morning. “It’s not right,” Malmo resident Shahed told the SVT public broadcaster. “But it wouldn’t have happened if they hadn’t burned the Quran.”

Earlier on Friday, Paludan, who leads the far-right Danish anti-immigration Hard Line party, was stopped at the border with Denmark and subsequently banned from entering Sweden for two years.

Paludan was due to travel to Malmo to speak at Friday’s event. But authorities pre-empted his arrival by announcing the ban and briefly detaining him near Malmo.

“We suspect that he was going to break the law in Sweden,” Calle Persson, spokesman for the police in Malmo told AFP. “There was also a risk that his behaviour … would pose a threat to society.”

But his supporters went ahead with the rally, during which six people were arrested for inciting racial hatred.

Paludan later put up a scathing message on Facebook. “Sent back and banned from Sweden for two years. However, rapists and murderers are always welcome!” he wrote.

Paludan last year attracted media attention for burning a Quran wrapped in bacon - a meat banned in Islam.

In June, Paludan was sentenced to a three-month prison sentence in Denmark over various violations of that country’s hate-speech laws.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/riots-sweden-activists-burn-copy-quran-200829143255481.html

 

[Abdullah719]

^ Evidently some of the far-right members did break the law as well.

But his supporters went ahead with the rally, during which six people were arrested for inciting racial hatred.

 

[sweep_shot]

Exactly but the difference is the far right didn't break any laws and the muslims did break the laws.

Both broke the laws.

You may want to educate yourself about Swedish laws: https://www.loc.gov/law/help/freedom-expression/sweden.php.

 

[Gilly]

You seem to have a lack of understanding (or faulty understanding) of what disorderly conduct and incitement are.

No I have a very good understanding, disorderly conduct is when you break the law, incitement is when you incite someone to break the law, you know like when someone in a group starts calling out to set fire to a building or burn a car.

You dont seem to be able to grasp that it is NOT illegal to burn books in Sweden.

 

[Abdullah719]

Both broke the laws.

You may want to educate yourself about Swedish laws: https://www.loc.gov/law/help/freedom-expression/sweden.php.

From the link: “In addition, disorderly conduct aimed at aggravating others is criminalized.”

Going to a migrant neighborhood and burning the Quran fits the exact definition of the above law in my opinion.

 

[Abdullah719]

No I have a very good understanding, disorderly conduct is when you break the law, incitement is when you incite someone to break the law, you know like when someone in a group starts calling out to set fire to a building or burn a car.

You dont seem to be able to grasp that it is NOT illegal to burn books in Sweden.

Why were people arrested for “inciting racial hatred” as per the above article?

 

[sweep_shot]

No I have a very good understanding, disorderly conduct is when you break the law, incitement is when you incite someone to break the law, you know like when someone in a group starts calling out to set fire to a building or burn a car.

You dont seem to be able to grasp that it is NOT illegal to burn books in Sweden.

Refer to this post please: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...rns-violent-in-Sweden&p=10868425#post10868425.

It is very clear.

 

[Gilly]

Both broke the laws.

You may want to educate yourself about Swedish laws: https://www.loc.gov/law/help/freedom-expression/sweden.php.

OK I educated myself:

1. Application and Permit Requirement
Public gatherings may not be held in Sweden without a prior permit.[14] Applications must be made to the Swedish police.[15] The Police may request that the applicant provide additional information with regard to the event before issuing a permit.[16]

So there we have it, the far right were abiding by the law and were lawfully going about their business.

 

[Abdullah719]

From the link: “In addition, disorderly conduct aimed at aggravating others is criminalized.”

Going to a migrant neighborhood and burning the Quran fits the exact definition of the above law in my opinion.

3. Racial Agitation

Sweden has criminalized “hate speech” when it amounts to “racial agitation” (hets mot folkgrupp), defined as ”a statement or other message that is spread and disseminated that threatens, or expresses condescension against, an ethnic group or another group of persons based on race, skin color, national or ethnic origin, faith, sexual orientation, gender, or gender identity or expression.”

Fits the bill too, this must’ve been what some of the people were arrested for.

 

[sweep_shot]

OK I educated myself:



So there we have it, the far right were abiding by the law and were lawfully going about their business.

You conveniently ignored these parts:

2. Disorderly Conduct
In addition, disorderly conduct (förargelseväckande beteende) intended to aggravate (förarga) people is also criminalized, and punishable with monetary fines.[24] The disorderly conduct provision explicitly includes noise disruptions.[25] To be punishable the person must “make noise in a public place or behave in public in a way that is intended to arouse public anger.”[26]

Disorderly conduct may include expressive conduct like waving a flag with offensive symbols.[27] The crime has a long history and was included in the Criminal Code as early as 1734.[28] As recently as the early 1900s it was also used to sentence persons who voiced opinions that were controversial.[29] This changed when an explicit prohibition on punishing opinions in the 1940s was included in the legislative history to the amendment of the Penal Code, where the legislators explained that it was the behavior not the content of what was said that should be punished.[30] Examples of behavior that has led to convictions include a person who sang and played music in his private home with the windows open in order to disrupt a political meeting that was being held outside his property.[31] Thus, heckling a political group is likely to fall within the constraints of disorderly conduct even if it does not specifically meet the requirements to be deemed disruption of public deliberations and gatherings mentioned above.

3. Racial Agitation
Sweden has criminalized “hate speech” when it amounts to “racial agitation” (hets mot folkgrupp), defined as ”a statement or other message that is spread and disseminated that threatens, or expresses condescension against, an ethnic group or another group of persons based on race, skin color, national or ethnic origin, faith, sexual orientation, gender, or gender identity or expression.”[32] The provision only protects the enumerated groups of people, and publication of untrue statements in itself is not considered hate speech. It was first introduced in a government bill in 1944 as a response to racial agitation against Jews.[33]

4. Enticement
Sweden criminalizes enticement (Uppvigling), defined as “orally in front of a public gathering, [or by other means in writing], [trying] to entice others to commit a criminal act, betray a citizenship duty, or disobey a government agency.”[34]

Are you implying we can't read?

 

[El Generico]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In this week itself I saw plenty of videos and pictures humiliating Hindu Gods, even using our holy books as toilet paper, we didn’t hurt a single innocent being, love this tolerance of Hinduism but intolerance of Islam has made me stop going to mosques, SHAME.. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/swedenriots?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#swedenriots</a></p>— Kangana Ranaut (@KanganaTeam) <a href="https://twitter.com/KanganaTeam/status/1299619948839403520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The irony in this tweet is almost funny. Haven't their been instances in India of people getting lynched if they are even suspected of eating beef? Aren't there incidents of people being killed or beaten for not chanting Hindu slogans?

I guess she did not know about those incidents or she would have stopped going to temples lol.

 

[Gilly]

Why were people arrested for “inciting racial hatred” as per the above article?

What article?.

 

[sweep_shot]

What article?.

Article on this post: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...rns-violent-in-Sweden&p=10868420#post10868420.

 

[El Generico]

OK I educated myself:



So there we have it, the far right were abiding by the law and were lawfully going about their business.

“We suspect that he was going to break the law in Sweden,” Calle Persson, spokesman for the police in Malmo told AFP. “There was also a risk that his behaviour … would pose a threat to society.”

But his supporters went ahead with the rally, during which six people were arrested for inciting racial hatred.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/riots-sweden-activists-burn-copy-quran-200829143255481.html

So they were just arrested for fun? Why is it so hard for you to admit that the far right broke the law?

 

[Abdullah719]

The irony in this tweet is almost funny. Haven’t their been instances in India of people getting lynched if they are even suspected of eating beef? Aren’t there incidents of people being killed or beaten for not chanting Hindu slogans?

I guess she did not know about those incidents or she would have stopped going to temples lol.

As I said, it’s a very popular topic in India for some reason. #1 trend on Twitter for six hours!

 

[sweep_shot]

What article?.

Six people were arrested from the far-right side due to inciting racial hatred.

It seems like you need to learn more about Swedish laws. Anyone can find these information from the internet.

 

[Gilly]

You conveniently ignored these parts:



Are you implying we can't read?

No I can see you can read, it is the understanding what you read that seems to be the issue.

The people had a permit to gather and burn a book in an industrial area, everything was legal. Just because you dont like it does not make it disorderly conduct.

I'm not going to explain it again.

 

[Abdullah719]

What article?.

#63.

If you don’t want to believe Al Jazeera, here’s another:

Police in Malmö had vacillated for two weeks over whether to give Rasmus Paludan, the leader of Denmark’s extremist Hard Line party permission to hold an anti-Islamic protest. Permission was denied on Wednesday, Paludan was stopped in a car on Friday afternoon as he left the Öresund bridge, deported and banned from entering Sweden for two years.

But this did not stop his supporters from filming themselves burning one copy of the Qur’an, and kicking another around Malmö’s main square like a football, for which three of them were arrested on suspicion of hate crimes.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-after-far-right-swedish-activists-burn-quran