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Rare Feat: Younis Khan's Test average is going to reach 50 in all four innings

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He has over 50 runs average in 2nd to 4th innings, his test avg. in 1st innings is very close to 50. Soon he will achieve this rare feat.

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Those are unreal stats......On a side note how many GOATs had 50+ averages in all four innings ??
 
I doubt many batsman in history have a better 4th innings record than YK.
 
Another fact is that he average 50+ at home/away and neutral. I dont think we will find many players with 50+ average in neutral places because Test cricket is mostly played home/away
 
I hope Younis can stretch himself another 2-3 years and finish with 30+ hundreds and 10K runs.
 
Dunno if he'll end up as an ATG or not...Probably in the mould of Sangakkara or Flower type batsmen where you don't kno...think he's above Zaheer, Saeed, Inzi, Moyo and co
just a teeny tiny notch below ATG mainly due to not having enough knocks against top class attacks...best one I can think of is his 111 in SA.
 
so if pak bat first in the next match and he scores 81 or more, he will achieve that feat?
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
I think he has the most tons in the 4th innings
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Just done a quick Statsguru check, with at least 1000 runs in the 4th innings, he's got the 3rd best average after Boycott and Sunny G. Equal 4 centuries with Gavaskar, Graeme Smith, Ponting and a surprising one- Sarwan.
 
His 4th innings record alone is ATG level, but this would a brilliant record once he hits 50 average for the 1st innings. Legend!
 
I don't think there would be more than two to three players in history of test cricket who would have 50 plus average in all four innings and also have scored more runs than younis, can anyone plz come up with those stats, i am not good at using cricinfo stats.
 
Our best test batsman ever. Hopefully he will earn his rightful place as the best batsman after breaking Miandad's record.
 
Vegitto1 said:
If an ATG is not determined based on stats then it comes down to personal opinion as to who is an ATG and who isn't.
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ATG is not determined JUST by stats.

Or else someone like Samaraweera (very good batsman) is equal to most ATGs.

Context, quality of knocks, opposition, ability to stamp their authority, etc - All plays a role.
 
YK has played too few matches in Aus and Eng and failed in SA to be called an ATG.Infact he hasnt played in Aus or Eng for almost 7-8 years.

But he surely is making claims for being the 2nd best pakistani batsmen ever.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
ATG is not determined JUST by stats.

Or else someone like Samaraweera (very good batsman) is equal to most ATGs.

Context, quality of knocks, opposition, ability to stamp their authority, etc - All plays a role.
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Awful argument. So you are telling me that you have watched players like bradman play so that you could ascertain their context, quality and all that BS for them to be called ATGs?
 
cricketjoshila said:
YK has played too few matches in Aus and Eng and failed in SA to be called an ATG.Infact he hasnt played in Aus or Eng for almost 7-8 years.

But he surely is making claims for being the 2nd best pakistani batsmen ever.
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Don Bradman hasnt played in Pakistan and India. That must mean he is not an ATG. :murali
 
Ikball said:
Its not about 4th innings, its about all four innings.
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Well, talk about stating the obvious. Just highlighting that a 4th innings tends to be a crunch innings to win or save a test match.
 
Alchemy said:
Don Bradman hasnt played in Pakistan and India. That must mean he is not an ATG. :murali
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No Australian cricketer played in India before 1956.But many Pakistanis played in Aus and Eng during the same time.Poor excuse.

How many centuries does he have in Eng/Aus/Sa combined?

How many tests has he played outside Asia since 2007?
 
Alchemy said:
Awful argument. So you are telling me that you have watched players like bradman play so that you could ascertain their context, quality and all that BS for them to be called ATGs?
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Haha...such an obvious concept...

Here's the thing:

We judge ATGs using a variety of factors FOR PLAYERS whom we see live.

For the rest whom we haven't seen play, we go by a combination of stats, videos (if possible), peer and other expert opinions, articles written by experts and by people who have watched them play.

Eg - Bishen Singh Bedi's SR is 80 odd. Freaking 80. But universally he is accepted as a great spinner (not ATG but great by neutral fans and experts). There is not one single person out there who saw him play who would call him rubbish.

Players are rated based on the combination of everything.
 
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cricketjoshila said:
No Australian cricketer played in India before 1956.But many Pakistanis played in Aus and Eng during the same time.Poor excuse.

How many centuries does he have in Eng/Aus/Sa combined?

How many tests has he played outside Asia since 2007?
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How many indian ATGS have a great record in SA/Aus/England?

Dont wanna pull up stats. Too tired.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Haha...such an obvious concept...

Here's the thing:

We judge ATGs using a variety of factors FOR PLAYERS whom we see live.

For the rest whom we haven't seen play, we go by a combination of stats, videos (if possible), peer and other expert opinions, articles written by experts and by people who have watched them play.

Eg - Bishen Singh Bedi's SR is 80 odd. Freaking 80. But universally he is accepted as a great spinner (not ATG but great by neutral fans and experts). There is not one single person out there who saw him play who would call him rubbish.

Players are rated based on the combination of everything.
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Thats very subjective. Its a criteria set by YOU. Not followed by any.
 
Alchemy said:
Thats very subjective. Its a criteria set by YOU. Not followed by any.
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ATG concept is itself subjective.

If majority (neutral fans) feel someone is ATG, they are considered to be ATG.

And the criterias I mentioned is exactly what is followed by many.

Its a combination of everything.
 
Ikball said:
He has over 50 runs average in 2nd to 4th innings, his test avg. in 1st innings is very close to 50. Soon he will achieve this rare feat.

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wat is the meaning of the 4 inngs bcos its 2 inngs but it means younis bahi avg 50 in the matches of serious between pak and aus but only 2 matches so how its all possible
 
Alchemy said:
How many indian ATGS have a great record in SA/Aus/England?

Dont wanna pull up stats. Too tired.
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Gavaskar/Tendulkar have very good records everywhere.

Dravid has good record in ENG/AUS but not a great record in SA

AFAIK Amarnath and Hazare also have a very brilliant record in these nations.

Laxman has a extremely good record in AUS and a good record in SA.

Thats from the top of my head.
 
DawoodChaudhry said:
wat is the meaning of the 4 inngs bcos its 2 inngs but it means younis bahi avg 50 in the matches of serious between pak and aus but only 2 matches so how its all possible
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there are 4 innings in every test match. younis batted in 1st and 3rd innins of this match against australia because pakistan won the toss and elected to bat first.
 
Strike Rate said:
there are 4 innings in every test match. younis batted in 1st and 3rd innins of this match against australia because pakistan won the toss and elected to bat first.
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thanks dear for make it clear mubaraks to younis bahi for 50 avg only i think not more players have done it and i think he is first pakistani and inshallah if possible he can climb his avg to 60 if score centruies in the next matches
 
cricketjoshila said:
YK has played too few matches in Aus and Eng and failed in SA to be called an ATG.Infact he hasnt played in Aus or Eng for almost 7-8 years.
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You do know that the great wall of India, Rahul Dravid, was a complete failure in South Africa. In 11 test matches played there he averaged below 30! (29.71 to be precise). The wall was also a failure in Sri Lanka (average of 33.10 in 12 test matches).
 
Inzy's Aloo said:
You do know that the great wall of India, Rahul Dravid, was a complete failure in South Africa. In 11 test matches played there he averaged below 30! (29.71 to be precise). The wall was also a failure in Sri Lanka (average of 33.10 in 12 test matches).
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Yes i know that.But Dravid kept touring every where.YK has not played in Aus and Eng since 2005 and 2007 respectively.He played in SA and wasnt too great there.Infact since 2007 he has played only 2-3 series outside asia.So its hard to call a player ATG who hardly plays outside of his home like conditions.If Dravid didnt play in Aus and Sa and Eng regularly he would be having a still better avg but people wont be calling him an ATG.

Btw YK never had to face Donald and co. In SA like Dravid did.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Yes i know that.But Dravid kept touring every where.YK has not played in Aus and Eng since 2005 and 2007 respectively.He played in SA and wasnt too great there.Infact since 2007 he has played only 2-3 series outside asia.So its hard to call a player ATG who hardly plays outside of his home like conditions.If Dravid didnt play in Aus and Sa and Eng regularly he would be having a still better avg but people wont be calling him an ATG.

Btw YK never had to face Donald and co. In SA like Dravid did.
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He wasn't picked in aus and eng tours of 09/10 due to non cricketing reasons, its not likes he excused himself on purpose

In the handul of tests hes played in aus, eng and s Africa he has a ton in both eng and aus and still avges 40 combined in those countries- Hes batted against the likes of steyn, harmison on their tuf and in their prime and made tons against them If you want to doubt his quality try and find some other excuse because your statements above don't make any sense
 
cricketjoshila said:
Yes i know that.But Dravid kept touring every where.YK has not played in Aus and Eng since 2005 and 2007 respectively.He played in SA and wasnt too great there.Infact since 2007 he has played only 2-3 series outside asia.So its hard to call a player ATG who hardly plays outside of his home like conditions.If Dravid didnt play in Aus and Sa and Eng regularly he would be having a still better avg but people wont be calling him an ATG.

Btw YK never had to face Donald and co. In SA like Dravid did.
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Dravid and SRT never had to face the two Ws at their peak coz India conveniently boycotted matches during that period.
 
Vegitto1 said:
Dravid and SRT never had to face the two Ws at their peak coz India conveniently boycotted matches during that period.
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Its PCB who boycotted tours to India including the Asia Cup of 1990.
Zaz said:
He wasn't picked in aus and eng tours of 09/10 due to non cricketing reasons, its not likes he excused himself on purpose

In the handul of tests hes played in aus, eng and s Africa he has a ton in both eng and aus and still avges 40 combined in those countries- Hes batted against the likes of steyn, harmison on their tuf and in their prime and made tons against them If you want to doubt his quality try and find some other excuse because your statements above don't make any sense
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He doesnt have a century in Aus.Has just 1 half century i guess.80 odd.
Has an avg of 33 in SA
Has played 1 series in England in 2007.

As you see he has hardly been tested outside Asia.Why he missed tours is another talk.The point is he has a very small sample and hasnt done much of note outside Asia to be rated an ATG.Someone who has 2 tours outside Asia in 7 years has hardly got out of his comfort zone.Has he played a defining innings in any of these 3 countries?

Even tier 2 ATGs like Kallis Dravid Waugh consistently played in every country and got runs in most places.To put YK among them isnt right.

YK is very good player.The best Pakistani batsmen since Miandad.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Its PCB who boycotted tours to India including the Asia Cup of 1990.

He doesnt have a century in Aus.Has just 1 half century i guess.80 odd.
Has an avg of 33 in SA
Has played 1 series in England in 2007.

As you see he has hardly been tested outside Asia.Why he missed tours is another talk.The point is he has a very small sample and hasnt done much of note outside Asia to be rated an ATG.Someone who has 2 tours outside Asia in 7 years has hardly got out of his comfort zone.Has he played a defining innings in any of these 3 countries?

Even tier 2 ATGs like Kallis Dravid Waugh consistently played in every country and got runs in most places.To put YK among them isnt right.

YK is very good player.The best Pakistani batsmen since Miandad.
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Who would you say is better in Tests YK or Sanga.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Yes i know that.But Dravid kept touring every where.YK has not played in Aus and Eng since 2005 and 2007 respectively.He played in SA and wasnt too great there.Infact since 2007 he has played only 2-3 series outside asia.So its hard to call a player ATG who hardly plays outside of his home like conditions.If Dravid didnt play in Aus and Sa and Eng regularly he would be having a still better avg but people wont be calling him an ATG.

Btw YK never had to face Donald and co. In SA like Dravid did.
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Obviously it does not help that we tour Australia/England every 5/6 years as opposed to the other countries who tour every 4 years.
In total Younus has missed 1 tour each to Australia & England, with no fault of his own.

When Pakistan toured Australia at the end of 2004, IMO that Australian side was one of the greatest test sides in their own back yard. Mcgrath, Gillespie, Warne, Kasprowicz, MacGill, Lee that was a top top bowling line up. That was a real examination of pace, bounce & swing. Watching that series I remember those were some very good bowling pitches. Younus held his own against them in that test series, he was by far our best batsman on that tour. The Australian bowling line up of 2010 (when we last toured there) was not in the same class as the one of 2004 and I feel an in prime Younus missed out on that tour.

When Pakistan toured England in 2006 against a strong England bowling, with the likes of Harmison & Hoggard in their prime, Younus more than held his own against them averaging 65.80 in that series.

Younus has demonstrated time and time that he has no real weakness against pace and the moving ball. His technique is solid and he's comfortable against bounce & the short ball. Even in the recently concluded test match, Younus showed his quality on the first day. It was by no means an easy wicket to bat on in the first 2 sessions and the bowling by Johnson & Siddle in tandem was as good a test bowling spell that i've seen this year. Mitchell Johnson especially going through a purple patch that is as hostile as anything that has been seen over the last couple of years. That 1st innings 100 by Younus was quality and should not be down played because it was in the UAE.
 
Younis Khan is now averaging 50+ in all four innings of test match. 3rd batsman to do so after D Bradman & H Sutcliffe.
 
Younis joins the Don and Sutcliffe

50 Younis Khan now averages at least 50 in each of the four innings of a Test. The only other batsmen who average 50-plus in all four innings are Don Bradman and former England great Herbert Sutcliffe.

90 Number of years since a batsman made three consecutive Test hundreds against Australia before Younis achieved this feat in the first innings. Sutcliffe was the last to have done this, during the Ashes series of 1924-25.

Younis Khan: Australia's latest bane.
4 Number of Pakistan players, including Younis Khan, who have made three consecutive 100-plus scores in Tests. The other three are Zaheer Abbas, Mudassar Nazar and Mohammad Yousuf.

30 Number of years since all of Pakistan's top-four batsmen have made 35-plus scores in a Test innings against Australia. The last time this happened was at Adelaide in December 1983.
2 Number of consecutive 50-plus opening partnerships for Pakistan. The openers put together 71 in the second innings of the Dubai Test and 57 today. This is only the third time in the last eight years that Pakistan's openers have posted back-to-back 50-plus partnerships.

18 Number of threes scored by Pakistan's batsmen in the first innings so far, the most in a Pakistan Test innings since 2001. The second most threes for Pakistan, 17, also came at Abu Dhabi, against Sri Lanka in 2011.

6 Number of hundreds scored by Pakistan batsmen in two Tests this series. Pakistan batsmen scored only six hundreds against Australia between 1999 and 2010.

0.96 Younis' ratio of hundreds to fifties in Tests. He has scored 27 hundreds and 28 fifties. This is the fifth best conversion ratio among players who have scored at least 20 Test hundreds.

Converting 50s to 100s (players with min. 20 centuries)
Player Mat Inns Runs Avg 100 50 100s per 50
DG Bradman 52 80 6996 99.94 29 13 2.23
M Azharuddin 99 147 6215 45.03 22 21 1.05
ML Hayden 103 184 8625 50.73 30 29 1.03
MJ Clarke 107 182 8245 50.89 27 27 1.00
Younis Khan 93 165 7930 53.22 27 28 0.96
WR Hammond 85 140 7249 58.45 22 24 0.92
PA de Silva 93 159 6361 42.97 20 22 0.91
RN Harvey 79 137 6149 48.41 21 24 0.88
GS Sobers 93 160 8032 57.78 26 30 0.87
HM Amla 79 137 6415 51.32 22 27 0.81

71.6 Younis' strike rate during his innings of 111* of 155 balls. This is Younis' third best strike rate for an innings of 100 or more. The highest strike rate for any of his 27 100-plus knocks is 81.8, during his innings of 149* off 182 balls against New Zealand at Auckland.
 
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