Ravichandran Ashwin in Test cricket as a batsman

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Ashwin have a decent average for a no.6, 7 or 8 batsman in test. He can add a few quick runs at the end of inning. Good in partnerships and actually have a better average than Raina.

Can he be utilised as a no.7 batsman for India allowing Dhoni to have an extra seamer in squad??

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He's alot more of a bowling allrounder than a specialist bowler, who can bit a bat - as a matter of fact, his bowling is becoming exceedingly ordinary as his batting improves.
 
He's alot more of a bowling allrounder than a specialist bowler, who can bit a bat - as a matter of fact, his bowling is becoming exceedingly ordinary as his batting improves.

really?? He got 12 wickets in last test. Cant use the word "exceedingly" here.
Although he is still to prove himself in overseas
 
I'd take that punt only for home games.

well i agree that he need to prove himself outside of sub continent and against the big teams like Aus, Eng nd RSA. But what m saying that he can be utilised better. He is a decent player i think.
 
He's alot more of a bowling allrounder than a specialist bowler, who can bit a bat - as a matter of fact, his bowling is becoming exceedingly ordinary as his batting improves.

he has a better bowling avg than Ajmal:p
 
He's alot more of a bowling allrounder than a specialist bowler, who can bit a bat - as a matter of fact, his bowling is becoming exceedingly ordinary as his batting improves.

LOL. I say this and he takes a 5-fer. Talk about setting the record straight :))
 
Well I am saying this for some times atleast in India he should bat at no. 7 and Dhoni at no. 6 as Dhoni is better batsman than Prior in Asia and we can play Harbhajan or Amit Mishra , they bot can bat and will make indian bowling much better .
Tricky thing is matches outside Asia , surely Ashwin can bat(as he started his carrer as Opening batsman) and also look good in recent test series against Aussies but Dhoni is not a good but only ok outside Asia , so the problem is not Ashwin but Dhoni, he has to do better at no. six and this will make Ashwin to play as alrounder
 
I dont' buy this logic of playing 5 bowlers especially for India.
We need to play to our strengths..which is batting...
If 4 Indian Bowlers won't take 20 wickets, then 5 won't.

Atleast by having 7 batsmen, there is less chance of losing a Test Match..
 
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Test matches are won by taking 20 wickets, 5 bowlers is a must. If 6 Indian batters can't score enough runs then 7th batter is useless.

Batting is India's strength so they have to trust 6 batters along with Ashwin can do the job.
 
Ashwin plays proper cricketing shots and has an uncluttered mind. Only con is running be wickets still better than Raina in Tests. No use playing 5 bowlers we wont do much better even then :|
 
7 batsman,4 bowlers and a turning track.Should be enough to win test matches.
 
Irfan is an option in tests. He did well in Lanka with both bat and ball.

Absolutely. Irfan is the missing link India is looking for especially for tests abroad. He should be our #7 with Dhoni at #6. Needless to say, Dhoni has to pull up his socks and perform abroad.
 
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Test matches are won by taking 20 wickets, 5 bowlers is a must. If 6 Indian batters can't score enough runs then 7th batter is useless.

Batting is India's strength so they have to trust 6 batters along with Ashwin can do the job.

Do not completely agree...

Problem is not with trusting 6 batters,,problem is whether the 5th Bowler introduced is effective..

On the other hand, 7 batters can put as many runs as to put pressure on the opposition team...and in many cases we have won matches because of that...
 
Do not completely agree...

Problem is not with trusting 6 batters,,problem is whether the 5th Bowler introduced is effective..

On the other hand, 7 batters can put as many runs as to put pressure on the opposition team...and in many cases we have won matches because of that...

Yes in SC we will win matches because of the spinning talent we got but we will continue to squander abroad. If 6 batters can't take responsibility & do the job chances are 7th won't do any better.

If we don't give chance to bowlers we won't be finding effective ones. Raina is no better than I Pathan in batting Pathan can also hit occasional 40~50 runs.
 
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I called him a tailender, but he is turning out to be a very fine allrounder for India. Timing the ball beautifully.
 
1 century and 2 fifties in Tests:))


He started his cricket career in school as an opening batsmen
 
Yes India should consider that option. Playing Irfan at number 7 and ashwin at 8

Makes the bowling as well as batting more depth.
 
LOL Played like VVS Laxman. Bit too good for a #8, its a crime.:))
 
still apart from that one stint in Australia, he has batted mostly in India. Yet to see if he can keep it running on seaming pitches that do a bit.
 
To be honest he's looked the best batsman today, even better than Pujara. Scored all those runs with ease and elegance. Free flowing batsman.
 
To be honest he's looked the best batsman today, even better than Pujara. Scored all those runs with ease and elegance. Free flowing batsman.

lol pujara was exceptionaly well today..if it weren't him on non striker end , ashwin wouldn't have played with that ease.
 
To be honest he's looked the best batsman today, even better than Pujara. Scored all those runs with ease and elegance. Free flowing batsman.

Not sure I agree with that. Pujara survived some hostile spells from Panesar and Swann. Ashwin didn't face the same quality of bowling that he did, so it's difficult to compare the two. Nevertheless, a skillful knock from Ashwin.
 
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Dont underestimate Ashwin. You can only judge a man by the challenges he's put up against. Ever since Ashwin came in, he's dominated. 60 out of 90 runs have come from his bat and very few of them were poor shots. Pujara has been gritty and has played the best of his 3 hundreds today. In itself a great effort. Just for the aesthetics however Ashwin was unbelievable.
 
I've always thought in a comparison with Hafeez, Ashwin is the better batsman whereas Hafeez is the better bowler. :))

Ashwin is a good batsman from what I've seen of him.
 
he is the one that should be batting at 7 and dhoni at 8

I can see a great all rounder in him in future
 
Ravi Ashwin´s batting has always been impressive!

he is the one that should be batting at 7 and dhoni at 8

I can see a great all rounder in him in future

Actually, in Test cricket MS Dhoni should be batting somewhere at 11 or so, that is if needed.
 
agree with that.

somebody start an Umar Akmal v Ashwin thread:p

Umar akmal is not playing test cricket currently
if you want to strat pakistan no-6 vs India no-6 Thread
start thread of Asad Shifque vs Yuvraj singh
 
Could end up as a batting all-rounder, saved India to day with his 60.
 
Umar akmal is not playing test cricket currently
if you want to strat pakistan no-6 vs India no-6 Thread
start thread of Asad Shifque vs Yuvraj singh

lol it was a joke.u dont know the history of Umar Akmal comparison threads it seems
 
I've always thought in a comparison with Hafeez, Ashwin is the better batsman whereas Hafeez is the better bowler. :))

Ashwin is a good batsman from what I've seen of him.

This post will worth them if both of them have a look at it.Change The Game
 
Would Ashwin Be Able To Register Another Century?

What Do You Guys Think?
 
Not impossible but English bowlers will be fresh tomorrow morning with a still newish ball (that means more swing n bounce). If he could survive the first 45 mins of the day then i think he will score his 2nd century in Test cricket(in the very same ground where he scored his 1st).

ATM, I would be happy with a team total of anything in excess of 320 in our 1st Innings.
 
The ball will swing in the first hour on all days and pitch isnt getting better. So he will have to play as well as he did today to get to the 3 figure mark.
 
He bats better than Hafeez and Shan combined. Sweet 100 by him. Yes, Its against WI at a flat track but still you have to score runs. He's got a solid technique and temperament.

Handy all-rounder.
 
Ashwin is more than a decent batsmen. Has good technique and good temperament. He can definitely hold an end. Should keep working on his batting. His batting is more suited to tests than LO
 
He's a brilliant cricketer. Great bowler and deserves to be up there in rankings, fantastic batsman gives useful runs down the order, athletic fielder and all round thinking cricketer. Wish we had somebody like that in the pak team.
 
He is a superb cricketer. A bowling avg of 25 and a batting avg of 30+ puts him as a world class All Rounder and he only need to get his bowling record better outside Asia.Indian management however should know that he is a bowling All Rounder. So they don't compromise with their bowling.
 
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He bats better than Hafeez and Shan combined. Sweet 100 by him. Yes, Its against WI at a flat track but still you have to score runs. He's got a solid technique and temperament.

Handy all-rounder.

But still Hafeez and Yasir are better Test Players than Ashwin according to some PPers!
 
He's a brilliant cricketer. Great bowler and deserves to be up there in rankings, fantastic batsman gives useful runs down the order, athletic fielder and all round thinking cricketer. Wish we had somebody like that in the pak team.

What?
 
Ash, concentrate on ur bowling pls. We don't need another irfan pathan.
 
He's a brilliant cricketer. Great bowler and deserves to be up there in rankings, fantastic batsman gives useful runs down the order, athletic fielder and all round thinking cricketer. Wish we had somebody like that in the pak team.

As athletic as Inzi bhai. :inzi
 
Ash, concentrate on ur bowling pls. We don't need another irfan pathan.

No need to worry. He is a spinner. It is not just Irfan (if you call him as alrounder), it is actually the great story of Indian Fast Bowlers! They lose out their charm mainly due to injuries, and then the dilemma of balancing the pace, rhythm, swing, seam and what not? We lost Irfan not because he concentrated on batting, but because he lost his bowling skills! In fact he was batting better when he was in form as a bowler! Please keep out of this myth!

It is a welcome joy if Ashwin develops as a batsman. There is no problem of wear and tear, because he hardly has to put effort as a bowler, just he should retain and improve the skills. This will give the option of India playing 5 bowlers all the time (the option of 3rd seamer or 3rd spinner which is gold!)
 
He's a brilliant cricketer. Great bowler and deserves to be up there in rankings, fantastic batsman gives useful runs down the order, athletic fielder and all round thinking cricketer. Wish we had somebody like that in the pak team.

he isn't athletic at all lol and one of the lazy runner btw the wicket. Though was very good at slip.
 
He's a brilliant cricketer. Great bowler and deserves to be up there in rankings, fantastic batsman gives useful runs down the order, athletic fielder and all round thinking cricketer. Wish we had somebody like that in the pak team.

Athletic fielder!! Bit much, no?


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Sorry my bad, I was going by his slip catching. Seem to remember him taking some blinders. But a gutsy all round cricketer nonetheless.
 
That is why I tell he is the key player for Test Matches, because it demands neither sharp fielding nor quick running. You can always hide him in Catching Position which is anyhow his strength! No need of quick running too, because he is not playing in Top 4 position (which slightly requires rotating strike when the bowlers are coming hard).

But the story is completely different in LOIs. That's why his position in LOIs is solely dependent on his bowling form! And since he is not a slogger, he should hide as a tailender in LOIs, because running between wickets + bit of flashing/slogging is a must in LOI late order batting. The only way he can be a handy bat in LOIs is develop more array of shots & playing in TOP 3, then he can hide his poor running. But that is really a tall order and too much asking. I don't think he can improve his athleticism and his style of batting. Hence let him do this and be consistent in what he is doing now (Test Bowling + Batting, LOI Bowling) and hope for the best!
 
Scoring 3 centuries against WI doesn't prove anything.Though he is a player who could bat at 8 9 at best
 
Ashwin has the potential to be a legendary cricketer, not just a legendary spinner.

He won't get a chance because of Kohli, but I think he can be a very good captain as well.
 
Ashwin is a fantastic cricketer. three 100's against a top side like West Indies !
He has also scored 2 50's in australia. Not bad , for the best spinner in test cricket.
 
Scoring 3 centuries against WI doesn't prove anything.Though he is a player who could bat at 8 9 at best

He has skills to bat in the top 6-7 for most countries, including India. You just have to watch him bat and it's clear that he is not a tailendar.
 
Scoring 3 centuries against WI doesn't prove anything.Though he is a player who could bat at 8 9 at best

You would most likely see players batting at 8 hit three- four centuries in their whole career and average in mid 20s.

He is pretty good for no.7 position.
 
Ashwin has the potential to be a legendary cricketer, not just a legendary spinner.

He won't get a chance because of Kohli, but I think he can be a very good captain as well.

Not a lot of great spin all-rounders in cricketing history. The best one from Asia is Mushtaq Mohammad (Hanif's brother).
 
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