[Report] ICC approves the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy 2025 following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI [Post Updated #4739]

If such a demand is put forth, unlike the PCB, the BCCI will quickly replace Pak. with the next team in line.
This is the Reason PCB will think twice before taking any decision unlike some delusion keyboard warriors.

PCB did not allowed Pakistan players to Play in 2009 IPL after than India never allowed any Pakistan players to play in IPL.
 
Australia and England are not share border with Pakistan like india

India - Pakistan were already fought four wars.

They did not face Parliament attack, Mumbai , pathankot, uri and insurgency in Kashmir and so many others attacks.

It's a disgrace that, after all the attacks, India still insists on playing Pakistan at neutral venues and have played despite how bad pakistan has been India clearly has no self-respect.

If India were to do something like this to Pakistan, I would have no hesitation in completely boycotting India this would include avoiding their movies, music, and any of their products, restaurants, and any other business or interaction including online websites,app, forums etc..

It’s a matter of principle. Yet, as always, India continues to act without any self-respect, have no basic values of dignity and respect.
 
If such a demand is put forth, unlike the PCB, the BCCI will quickly replace Pak. with the next team in line.

This is what the PCB should have done. But refused to do.
i do not think its bcci that can decide to replace a team in icc tournament. same way pcb cant decide on own to kick out india from CT
 
Fair enough. Now it is up to the PCB to tell BCCI to get lost and reject the hybrid model.

If ICC cannot have a tournament without its father, that is fine. They can take away hosting rights from PCB.

PCB should have no issues playing in a CT that is hosted by anyone except BCCI.
This would be the honourable course of action.
Refuse to countenance a hybrid model and put the monkey back on the shoulders of the ICC (who in terms of role and governance, are no more than an event organiser anyway).
Sadly, I sense it is not the way this will play out and PCB (as ever) will capitulate.
 
It's a disgrace that, after all the attacks, India still insists on playing Pakistan at neutral venues and have played despite how bad pakistan has been India clearly has no self-respect.

If India were to do something like this to Pakistan, I would have no hesitation in completely boycotting India this would include avoiding their movies, music, and any of their products, restaurants, and any other business or interaction including online websites,app, forums etc..

It’s a matter of principle. Yet, as always, India continues to act without any self-respect, have no basic values of dignity and respect.
its Just cricket where they can act like crybabies. IOC disqualified their athlete on eve of Gold Medal match .. these buffoons could not do about it despite having indian members on olympic committee. India’s example regarding cricket is that little boy who comes to play gully cricket and happens own the bat and ball among all the boys and if he gets trumped over , takes his bat and ball and run away crying like a baby
 
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It’s disheartening to see how some fans, especially from India, are responding to BCCI’s decision not to tour Pakistan, particularly when teams from around the world, including Australia and England, have recently toured Pakistan and continue to express willingness to do so in the future. No other team has refused to visit for the Champions Trophy, yet BCCI has once again decided to mix politics with sport.

What’s even more surprising is seeing some Indian cricket fans celebrating this decision. These are the same fans who often talk about sportsmanship and claim to support the spirit of cricket, yet when given a chance to support the game itself, they allow bias and political issues to cloud their judgment. True fans of the game should want cricket to transcend borders and be free from politics.

Seeing this behavior from those who should know better is disappointing. Cricket deserves better than to be influenced by hate and division; it should remain a bridge between nations, not a battleground.
I agree with what you have stated. But my issue is, why have the ICC and PCB not told BCCI to take a hike and moved on? Get SL in, get the schedule done. Give the fans enough time to plan their travel. All this could have been done months ago.
 
The Indian team is the one with the problem.

I don’t know why Pakistan has to make any concessions. If India don’t want to travel, it’s their perogative, but they need to pull out of the whole tournament and let the next team in line take their place.

What is the drama? Bye bye India
I see it a bit different. The ICC and PCB are the organizers. They decide who plays. If BCCI is unwilling to play, they should have moved on the SL. Long time ago.
 
I’m glad India isn’t sending their team. 💪

Should also make a Bollywood movie about it, starring a Muslim actor like SRK or salman Khan as a lead. It might have a bigger impact if a Muslim actor portrays innocent Pakistani Muslim brothers as terrorists. Hopefully, then, the revenge will be complete.
This is how the Pakistan government react when india said them to take action against non state actor aka UN banned terror organisation.

Exact same reason why india is not going to Play in pakistan.

Every action has the reaction.
 
This is how the Pakistan government react when india said them to take action against non state actor aka UN banned terror organisation.

Exact same reason why india is not going to Play in pakistan.

Every action has the reaction.
I don't care about India playing Pakistan or not but if India want to boycott then why do you play them in India or USA? Where is your self respect then? Gone to sleep? Do the lives of your indian people who have been killed by pakistanis not matter Then?
 
This is how the Pakistan government react when india said them to take action against non state actor aka UN banned terror organisation.

Exact same reason why india is not going to Play in pakistan.

Every action has the reaction.
ok fair enough. thats what we are asking from Bcci to take a definitive step and boycott pakistan games at any venue. BCCI should announce that Life of their soldiers is worth more than a meaningless group match that can generate few millions and bcci dnt need it
 
i do not think its bcci that can decide to replace a team in icc tournament. same way pcb cant decide on own to kick out india from CT
I agree. The ICC has that authority. But I am sure BCCI would push the ICC to do the replacement. In the interest of planning the tournament. Something that the PCB should have done.
 
I don't care about India playing Pakistan or not but if India want to boycott then why do you play them in India or USA? Where is your self respect then? Gone to sleep? Do the lives of your indian people who have been killed by pakistanis not matter Then?
India is not going to play In pakistan or bilateral series.

ICC/ Asia cup is different things its very simple .
 
ok fair enough. thats what we are asking from Bcci to take a definitive step and boycott pakistan games at any venue. BCCI should announce that Life of their soldiers is worth more than a meaningless group match that can generate few millions and bcci dnt need it
As things stand, the BCCI is setting the rules when it comes to Ind-Pak matches. They are getting away with whatever they want. Why would they want to change anything?

If change needs to happen, it has to come from the PCB and the ICC. But I do not see any push back at all. So status quo it is. BCCI continues to have it's way.
 
I agree. The ICC has that authority. But I am sure BCCI would push the ICC to do the replacement. In the interest of planning the tournament. Something that the PCB should have done.
why pcb should have done anything when no decision was communicated by bcci until now? Pak was assured participation thats why they travelled last year to India and accepted hybrid model in asia cup. that was a trade off pcb did. if ICC was ever any fairer sports body , pcb would nt need to do anything and icc would just kick them out themselves without pcb having to make things happen but we all know how fair icc actually is
 
As things stand, the BCCI is setting the rules when it comes to Ind-Pak matches. They are getting away with whatever they want. Why would they want to change anything?

If change needs to happen, it has to come from the PCB and the ICC. But I do not see any push back at all. So status quo it is. BCCI continues to have it's way.
shame that you dnt see flaw in that stand. there is no principle in it just bigotry because of some power over icc lol
 
why pcb should have done anything when no decision was communicated by bcci until now? Pak was assured participation thats why they travelled last year to India and accepted hybrid model in asia cup. that was a trade off pcb did. if ICC was ever any fairer sports body , pcb would nt need to do anything and icc would just kick them out themselves without pcb having to make things happen but we all know how fair icc actually is
The ICC should have set a deadline for BCCI to get back to them. If they didn't hear back from them, they should have moved on to SL.

The problem is ICC's action or rather inaction. No fault of the PCB. Just that PCB gets attached in this case as hosts.
 
shame that you dnt see flaw in that stand. there is no principle in it just bigotry because of some power over icc lol
I do see the flaw. BCCI is absolutely in the wrong. But if bad behavior continues to be rewarded, then no use complaining
 
PCB is also rejecting the hybrid model but we all know paisa wins out in the end and they'll bend the knee just like they did for the asia cup. Spineless board.
 
Pak cricket has survived without playing India all these years they should just refused to play India in all icc events going forward.
 
Probably a wise decision all things considered. Indian national side looks to be on the decline, and Pakistan seems set to come out of theirs, at least to some degree. India could easily have been embarrassed by taking a good beating from Pakistan. Avoiding any competition could save them some humiliation.
 
BCCI is one of the reasons why my interest in what used to be a wonderful sport, has gone down by 80%.

Cricket is dying. As pointed out by Rajdeep, if India expects Pakistan to turn up in their homeland for last year’s WC, including a clash between each other in Ahmedabad, then it’s just wrong to see the BCCI refuse to travel Pakistan. Everyone else is willing to go there to play the CT.

Credit to Rajdeep for calling out his team because truth be told BCCI are the main reason why cricket is dying.
 
Pak cricket has survived without playing India all these years they should just refused to play India in all icc events going forward.
As per ramiz, pcb majority share is from Indian profit for its survival.
 
I mentioned this months ago but folks here were in denial and delusion. Months ago after the elections in Ind- I had stated that Ind will not travel to Pak no matter what from higher up political sources in the TDP party that supports the NDA gov. TDP was totally OK with the government's decision then snd it was pretty much a done deal as in Ind not visiting Pak but again folks here were all bombastic and in complete denial stating pcb will make ind come at any cost.

I had also mentioned that it would be a hybrid model based in the UAE as the bcci didnt want any rain fiasco to ruin the event and so Dubai was the safest option. All games involving Ind will be in uae including one SF and the final. Again I had mentioned this months ago and folks here just went bombastic against me . This was decided months ago and thr pcb brass knew about it- they just were keeping the gullible pak public masses in the dark. All their bombastic talk was for the local pak public consumption.
 
Pak should ask icc to separate them from Indian group so that they wont have to travel as hosts like they did in asia cup. no need to play india as long its semi or final. thats the least pcb should do if they cant do anything else
I am sure Pakistan is also gaining from the Ind-Pak clash! Its all about $$$
 
BCCI is one of the reasons why my interest in what used to be a wonderful sport, has gone down by 80%.

Cricket is dying. As pointed out by Rajdeep, if India expects Pakistan to turn up in their homeland for last year’s WC, including a clash between each other in Ahmedabad, then it’s just wrong to see the BCCI refuse to travel Pakistan. Everyone else is willing to go there to play the CT.

Credit to Rajdeep for calling out his team because truth be told BCCI are the main reason why cricket is dying.
Why isn't anything being done? The ICC and rest of the boards have done nothing to stem the tide. Wouldn't that make them accomplices?

If a wonderful game like cricket is being run to the ground, people who love it must take action. Cut off the bad part before it spreads to the whole body. Take out the BCCI and keep the sport alive.
 
So situ is out of hands of PCB, time for Patron in chief's Chief to step in .
 
I can only laugh at people who make emotional statements like “cowardice”, “PCB has no backbone”.

While sitting comfortably in their living rooms from Western countries.

If only Pakistan was a rich country and diplomatically liked by the world, we would not be seeing this day.

Pakistan then could afford to host the tournament on its own terms and not care about India not coming to play. ICC too would not have any such issue then, because PCB would be making enough money and contributing millions of dollars to the ICC budget.

That is simply not the case. We are a poor country and poor board, we don’t contribute any revenue to the ICC rather we live on the money that the IND board makes and then gives it to the ICC.

So, it looks absolutely stupid when you take their money and then try to act tough.

It just won’t happen and Pakistan cricket will be in massive losses if we choose to boycott IND. Our cricketers - what will they do? And any young talent coming up.
 
I can only laugh at people who make emotional statements like “cowardice”, “PCB has no backbone”.

While sitting comfortably in their living rooms from Western countries.

If only Pakistan was a rich country and diplomatically liked by the world, we would not be seeing this day.

Pakistan then could afford to host the tournament on its own terms and not care about India not coming to play. ICC too would not have any such issue then, because PCB would be making enough money and contributing millions of dollars to the ICC budget.

That is simply not the case. We are a poor country and poor board, we don’t contribute any revenue to the ICC rather we live on the money that the IND board makes and then gives it to the ICC.

So, it looks absolutely stupid when you take their money and then try to act tough.

It just won’t happen and Pakistan cricket will be in massive losses if we choose to boycott IND. Our cricketers - what will they do? And any young talent coming up.
Post soaked in reality. (y)
 
Probably a wise decision all things considered. Indian national side looks to be on the decline, and Pakistan seems set to come out of theirs, at least to some degree. India could easily have been embarrassed by taking a good beating from Pakistan. Avoiding any competition could save them some humiliation.
Naah, in the Aane do series, India had just won the WC at home, invited Pakistan to play 3 ODIs, pumped the series as a forgone conclusion, and Pakistan ended up humiliating India on their turf.

Tendulkar bailed from the series though as cowards do, not that he would have made any difference though.

India could have easily embarrassed Pakistan then, but never have. Pakistan has embarrassed India on their soil, and on foreign soil too, and continue to do so.

India is just scared of being humiliated again.
 
They had plenty of time to communicate their decision, the timing is so convenient :sachin
While I agree with this, I am still curious why the ICC did not tell BCCI to take a hike months ago and move on to SL?
 
Probably a wise decision all things considered. Indian national side looks to be on the decline, and Pakistan seems set to come out of theirs, at least to some degree. India could easily have been embarrassed by taking a good beating from Pakistan. Avoiding any competition could save them some humiliation.
I think you have any comprehensive issue .india is not playing in pakistan but will Play them in UAE. Pakistan can show how good they are against India in UAE. I will tag you after the match .till then enjoy the imaginary victory . :kp
 
They’ve seen the spinning pitches and chickened out.

They don’t want to go toe to toe with the great Rizwan either.

I hope they haven't been watching the current Oz/Pak series then. If they were scared of the spinners, their pant seats might be changing to a brown shade if they watched Ayub pummelling the Aussie pace bowling.
 
I can only laugh at people who make emotional statements like “cowardice”, “PCB has no backbone”.

While sitting comfortably in their living rooms from Western countries.

If only Pakistan was a rich country and diplomatically liked by the world, we would not be seeing this day.

Pakistan then could afford to host the tournament on its own terms and not care about India not coming to play. ICC too would not have any such issue then, because PCB would be making enough money and contributing millions of dollars to the ICC budget.

That is simply not the case. We are a poor country and poor board, we don’t contribute any revenue to the ICC rather we live on the money that the IND board makes and then gives it to the ICC.

So, it looks absolutely stupid when you take their money and then try to act tough.

It just won’t happen and Pakistan cricket will be in massive losses if we choose to boycott IND. Our cricketers - what will they do? And any young talent coming up.
This should be carefully read by all the delusion posters .
 
Indian People are special people on earth. They are more richer than England and Australia. If PCB is unable to hold a tournament might resign and let SL replace Pakistan and play in India. Both BCCI and ICC will be happy.
 
Pcb in future should ask not to put them against India in any group match

They don't want to come okay then don't play with us in asia cup and icc tournaments too
 
Can't expect any better from Naqvi. This guy must have stole lots of money by making stadiums. Once Ik back this guy needs to be investigate for his corruption in PCB. Why can't SL replace india?
 
Indian cricket fans (note: "cricket" fans) actually love and die to see India playing Pakistan frequently (in all formats, particulary tests). We love to see many bi-laterals happening... In fact Ind-Pak bilateral (all formats) would be the highest money-spinner compared to any other bilaterals between any sides! Indian cricket fans would want Indians to play Pakistan more often because there's a chance to narrow (and even surpass) the gap in head-to-head clashes between the two sides. In fact Pakistan offers the flattest pitches on earth, so especially in tests Indian batsman would love to bat over there (Indian batsmen - test batsmen would hate to bat on current Indian pitches. Australia is better for them, and Pakistan will be even better. Nothing more than beating Pakistan in Pakistan). But at the same time I think Pakistan will also improve their cricket when they start playing against India, more young talents will be inspired to perform well (like Shoaib Akther launched his mission against India - playing in India). So it will be overall good for CRICKET... If NZ can beat India in India, then Pak has even better chance at that...

Besides cricket fans, even corporates would want to organize series/tournaments between these 2 sides, that's why you will see they will frame every time such that these two teams clash each other multiple times in ICC tournaments. So even if there is slightest chance of tension easing between these two countries, sponsors will take the remaining actions to make it happen! So, the relationship between these two countries should ease up... I know its more of a political thing (BJP issue) which is blocking the way... But once there is a slightest chance, PCB should initiate it by like first proposing coming to India to play bilaterals and then maybe hosting India in UAE, and see how it goes... Also if there is a chance to include Pak players in IPL, then they should try that... (I am sure IPL team owners will support this). This will create some windows for better things... BCCI should reciprocate and convince the political bodies saying that India is anyways playing against Pakistan in ICC tournaments and even allowing them to play in India (remember Pakistan also played multiple matches in the last world cup against other teams too instead of playing in Bangladesh/Sri Lanka as India hosted the tournament fully, which is a refreshing development!) Maybe they can start with a short 3 T20 series (in single venue - say Karachi)... So PCB should act smartly & take calculative steps, I am sure true Indian Cricket fans & sponsors will support them!
 
You're acting like PCB can do whenever they want to do .but in reality they will Play a match against india in another country when they are hosting that tournament .
So India can do whatever they want!!!!! Money talks and fans are always bowed where is money whether its legal or not.
 
Petty board, same old politics and all of that for a dying sport. No wonder, not many in western world take this gimmick of a sport seriously.

We will play against Pakistan in all ICC and ACC events, intentionally put both the teams in same group but won't play bilateral as that will hurt the sentiment of dead soldiers.

We will play against Pakistan in all ICC and ACC events but as long as it is not hosted in Pakistan.
A surprisingly reasonable take from an Indian. Otherwise it seems like all Indians are out with their knives and would rather die than tour to Pakistan or see an ICC tournament happen in Pakistan successfully
 
One thing Australia has the gall to do that India isn't capable of, and thats travelling to pakistan 🫠
 
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If India has any grace left for Cricket they should leave this tournament completely and let CT25 happen in Pakistan completely. Would be an absolute disgrace to see this tournament get butchered as well.

How pathetic of BCCI
They have a technical reason thou. I know its an excuse but they have a point. Their government is not allowing then to travel and BCCI has to follow GoI. Same like Pakistani team cannot travel to Israel
 
They have a technical reason thou. I know its an excuse but they have a point. Their government is not allowing then to travel and BCCI has to follow GoI. Same like Pakistani team cannot travel to Israel
They should opt out of the tournament then.
 
Hilarious to see Indians insulting pakistani 's on a pakistani forumn but have the audacity to call others fake aussies 🤣🤣.

One thing Australia has the gall to do that India isn't capable of, and thats travelling to pakistan 🫠
As I said in another thread it is a “Men’s” tournament. Meaning only Men can participate. Translated further (since sometimes they struggle to comprehend) only Men are allowed to play this tournament.

If you are not man enough, don’t come, you’re not welcome.
 
Now is a test for the handpicked PCB Chairman Naqvi. Let's see how he deals with it. Whether he has any diplomatic or leadership skills will be seen now.
 
As I said in another thread it is a “Men’s” tournament. Meaning only Men can participate. Translated further (since sometimes they struggle to comprehend) only Men are allowed to play this tournament.

If you are not man enough, don’t come, you’re not welcome.
So" men's " only can participate and play in this tournament and that's too in pakistan only . Are you sure or will change your prediction in few days. Think twice before answering. :kp
 
The rich dont really surrenders in this world. They dictates. You need to come out from your old school thoughts. World is very cruel and evil for less privilege ones.
Exactly!!!!!Rich people don't have any moral and they dictate whether they are right or wrong.
 
India has a significant influence over Pakistan's current government and military leadership, thus creating a situation where any action India takes is unlikely to face strong opposition from Pakistan. With this in mind, it's highly probable that India will not travel to Pakistan to play in the Champions Trophy. Instead, a hybrid model is likely, with PCB fully accepting and facilitating this arrangement. Pakistan would agree to play India at a neutral venue.

The discussions and debates on social media around this topic are unlikely to change the outcome. As Pakistan’s own prime minister has put it, "beggars cannot be choosers."
 
Did those tournament happened without Pakistan

Did those tournament happened without Pakistan?

They did. Because BCCI wasn't dependent on sponsors from Pakistan.

I don't remember the Asia Cup. But i remember the Hero Cup very well. It was fully funded by the Hero Group, one of the biggest markers of two wheelers in the world.

Pakistan confirmed its participation and then pulled out just 4 days before the first match.
 
I'd rather the whole tournament be in UAE now tbh. Hate hybrid models they are just confusing.
 
The rich dont really surrenders in this world. They dictates. You need to come out from your old school thoughts. World is very cruel and evil for less privilege ones.
The rich needs to be given a middle finger then. Least PCB can do is boycott playing India. Lets see then how will broadcasters like it.
 
ok don’t come then. Forfeit the tournament.

So much dramabaazi. You’re sitting on a Pakistani cricket forum complaining about Pakistan.

I really do not understand this weirdness from India and their fans.
That's a good point. Many Indians here invest a lot of time and effort defending BCCI's decisions by pointing to various unfortunate events. This does raise the question: why even come to a Pakistani forum? Why not stick to an Indian forum and boost each other's egos there?
 
They did. Because BCCI wasn't dependent on sponsors from Pakistan.

I don't remember the Asia Cup. But i remember the Hero Cup very well. It was fully funded by the Hero Group, one of the biggest markers of two wheelers in the world.

Pakistan confirmed its participation and then pulled out just 4 days before the first match.
India should simply opt out of Champions Trophy. Majority of tournaments and series happen without India. The world Cricket will survive without India playing a Champions Trophy. I'm sure you'll agree.
 
And what will ICC do when sponsors and broadcasters pull out?

Who will pay the bill?
Other sponsors. There are plenty ones, non Indians specially who would like to sponsor a flagship ICC tournament in Pakistan without India even. After all many tournaments, leagues and series happen around the world with single Indian in it. They are going strong.
 
Sanity restored.

No point in risking it.

The only complex thing to figure out is how is the tournament gonna proceed if India makes it into the semis and finale.

Not sure if I have ever seen optional venues, either the whole tournament will shift to UAE or India will be left out, won’t be unhappy either ways. Indias non participation in Pakistan shouldn’t stop other countries from playing, just continue the tournament and witout India.
 
Predictable outcome. PCB should have been mentally prepared. There will be a hybrid model
 
If India has any grace left for Cricket they should leave this tournament completely and let CT25 happen in Pakistan completely. Would be an absolute disgrace to see this tournament get butchered as well.

How pathetic of BCCI

BCCI has conveyed that they won't travel to Pakistan.

ICC is free to organise the tournament without India.
 
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