So take it or leave it by BCCI.Source?
What will icc/pcb do now?
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So take it or leave it by BCCI.Source?
Move to England next summer .
India might refuse , they remember the last one in England.
So take it or leave it by BCCI.
What will icc/pcb do now?
Well 2017 was also in EnglandI endorse it as well...lets move it to England in the summer and re live 2013 memories.
you should look up the term Jurisdiction.BCCI can influence the ICC and ICC members with their money, IPL promises. But can CAS actually act independently and rule on the actual merits of the case? What the PCB proposed to BCCI and the ICC was fair and flexible, it is the BCCI which is egoistically trying to flex its muscles and humiliate the PCB as much as possible.
ICC doesn't accept the jurisdiction of CAS.BCCI can influence the ICC and ICC members with their money, IPL promises. But can CAS actually act independently and rule on the actual merits of the case? What the PCB proposed to BCCI and the ICC was fair and flexible, it is the BCCI which is egoistically trying to flex its muscles and humiliate the PCB as much as possible.
I thought this thread was like KWK. “Don’t talk sense”you should look up the term Jurisdiction.
>>>>Not all sports adhere to the jurisdiction of CAS, with notable exceptions being the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA), The International Cricket Council (ICC) and the International Basketball Federation (FIBA).<<<<
PCB is on a roll. They have not just defeated the BCCI but have humiliated them. This might just turn out to be a pivotal moment in the history of the game with the world cricketing powers aligning behind PCB in the new world order as BCCI finds itself isolated and helpless for the first time.
My sentiments are same. BCCI, by its bullying is degrading itself further. The PCB has every right to stand up as no other board is as affected as PCB is. Let us hope the PCB doesn't succumb to the ICC pressure.I am not happy and I have said multiple times that I am with PCB on this. This is simply a bullying tactics by BCCI.
What I am saying is, PCB will never get a better opportunity to test this theory that without ind v pak game the Icc Events will be a loss occuring event. So they must remain firm and clearly say no to hybrid model and see how far it can go.
As a cricket fan, I have zero interest now in CT anyway after all this drama. I am eagerly looking forward to next ICC event in Eng whenever it will be.
Some of the members of ICT had concerns which thay laid to bcci and then this happened.Former Pakistan cricket team pacer Shoaib Akhtar has said the Indian cricket team is dying to play in Pakistan but they are not getting clearance:
"India is dying more than Pakistan to play in Pakistan. Virat Kohli would probably be dying to play in Pakistan. I know what is happening. If India vs Pakistan lands, TV rights sponsorships is going to hit the roof. Let me tell you tell you. They are not coming because of the government,"
Since when did you take Shoaib so seriously ? Wasim Akram has gone on the record saying Shoaib lies like no tomorrow.Some of the members of ICT had concerns which thay laid to bcci and then this happened.
So I am not sure about what Shoaib is saying
PCB is on a roll. They have not just defeated the BCCI but have humiliated them. This might just turn out to be a pivotal moment in the history of the game with the world cricketing powers aligning behind PCB in the new world order as BCCI finds itself isolated and helpless for the first time.
Problem is that Pakistan fans / Media's/ experts are think that both india and Pakistan has the same reputations as an nationPCB has pulled the rug from right under India here, only a fool would deny it.
On what basis can the PCB's stance be rejected, given they are just asking for equal treatment?
The only basis it can be rejected is $$$$$, so Indian topi drama of security, Mumbai revenge, etc, has been burned to the ashes and shown as just petty muscle flexing against Pakistan.
I get that you guys are happy with such a demonstration of "strength", but any neutral can see exactly what is happening, drama script has been shredded, and thats why I like the route the PCB has taken.
PCB did all it could.
And for the domestic audience they can claim they fought hard.
But it was impossible to let the whole tournament move out of Pakistan and they have accepted the hybrid model without any preconditions.
Just gotta wait a few more days for this announcement.
You may have a point if the other nations had expressed their intentions not to come.Problem is that Pakistan fans / Media's/ experts are think that both india and Pakistan has the same reputations as an nation
If they can understand that there is huge difference between them .after that they will not say we will demand hybrid models just because India wanted with them.
American president hasnt visited for pakistan since 2006 but pakistan PM / President's were / are visited there frequently. At the aame time others nation's President / PM comes and go to Pakistan.
Hope you gets what is I'm trying to say because if i explained everything in details than discussion can go off topic.
Pakistan perception as nation's in the World is very bad compared to india when its comes to security.
Connect your first and second sentence and you'll get your answer why is india not going there while others are going .You may have a point if the other nations had expressed their intentions not to come.
For now, it appears they are happy, so I'm not sure why you are bringing up Joe Biden.
Your argument here is worse than BCCI
PCB did all it could.
And for the domestic audience they can claim they fought hard.
But it was impossible to let the whole tournament move out of Pakistan and they have accepted the hybrid model without any preconditions.
Just gotta wait a few more days for this announcement.
They don't have the standing to get anything in return contrary to what many Pakistani posters think.Hybrid model without preconditions would be timid.
Pakistan should include preconditions if it is a hybrid model.
masterstroke by PCB, those who underestimated them are now having a heartbreak
ICC doesn't accept the jurisdiction of CAS.
Name? Sports reporter in you street corner? Any legal background? Or is this DRC and mou all over againAccording to a sports reporter, the ICC is registered in UAE and British Virgin Islands, in the event the ICC and BCCI bulldoze the PCB, the PCB has full intention of going into litigation and implementing a stay order against the ICC while the case will be ongoing.
Also uae and British Virgin Islands courts have a strong enforcement power……According to a sports reporter, the ICC is registered in UAE and British Virgin Islands, in the event the ICC and BCCI bulldoze the PCB, the PCB has full intention of going into litigation and implementing a stay order against the ICC while the case will be ongoing.
Also uae and British Virgin Islands courts have a strong enforcement power……
I was being sarcasticThats good news, if the courts favour the PCB then the ICC will have to abide by their rulings unless BCCI secretly bribes the judges.
We are the holders of the champions trophyThey don't have the standing to get anything in return contrary to what many Pakistani posters think.
India/BCCI has no power. This much is obvious.I’ll wait for a reliable source. I've seen Indians doing Bhangra in this thread many times, and the very next moment, they're phusss. loving the fake bravado from the Indians
Some of the events Indians have been celebrating with Bhangra and then gone phussss the next day
Keep it coming—we’re loving the Indian comedians in this thread
- Champions Trophy shifting to South Africa
- Champions Trophy shifting to UAE
- Champions Trophy shifted to India without Pakistan
- Champions Trophy will proceed without Pakistan (only for Indian broadcasters to later cry about about missing Pakistan vs. India games)
- PCB given 24 hours to accept the hybrid model, or the Champions Trophy will be taken away from them
- Jay Shah will use the ICC POWER to show Pakistan whose the boss
- PCB accepted the hybrid model without gaining anything in return
- PCB accepted the hybrid model and renamed it
- PCB accepted the hybrid model for three years (but India is co-hosting anyway with Sri Lanka)
after all that talk seriously need to question India's power and control at the moment they are looking like clowns
According to a sports reporter, the ICC is registered in UAE and British Virgin Islands, in the event the ICC and BCCI bulldoze the PCB, the PCB has full intention of going into litigation and implementing a stay order against the ICC while the case will be ongoing.
Hybrid model just for pakistanYou have to praise PCB for their resilience. Never have I have ever seen such a stuff from PCB against BCCI. I still think that CT will be based on hybrid model and that would not be a win for India at all.
This is to satisfy both. Pakistan doesn't want to play outside pakistan. But that is not entirely happening as they will play outside if they meet India. India doesn't want to play inside pakistan. So India got what they wanted.You have to praise PCB for their resilience. Never have I have ever seen such a stuff from PCB against BCCI. I still think that CT will be based on hybrid model and that would not be a win for India at all.
Isn't that what the BCCI want? The hybrid model would mean the BCCI will get what they want.You have to praise PCB for their resilience. Never have I have ever seen such a stuff from PCB against BCCI. I still think that CT will be based on hybrid model and that would not be a win for India at all.
True, thats how indian politicians have been fooling people of india. It is their bread and butter. You said 5 minutes, but I say the numbers of indian agencies working Afg and northwwest pakistan, it will only take 1 minute to prove Pak is not a safe country.India just needs five minutes to prove there is big security issues for indian player's in pakistan .
Those sport's reporter are lying to the Pakistan people's like their earlier claims about" Mere ghar ke pass bhai ka ghar hai".
They are thinking that there is no security issue for india . Other team's were touring Pakistan still those time australia and England did not toured Pakistan why?
Every team's has different threats perspection . Pakistan will lose this case in just 5 min. Lol
INDIA can show 5 minutes speech ( in a rally where he was threatened india) of UN designated terrorist Masood Azhar who wants to attack indian citizen's.
Pakistan came to India last year to Play the ICC World Cup.True, thats how indian politicians have been fooling people of india. It is their bread and butter. You said 5 minutes, but I say the numbers of indian agencies working Afg and northwwest pakistan, it will only take 1 minute to prove Pak is not a safe country.
Thanks for acknowledging it
Because entire world knows the goal of India is to ensure Pak doesn't hold any major tournaments. It is not a security issue but the RSS propaganda which is being used as security concern.Pakistan came to India last year to Play the ICC World Cup.
And delusion personals like you're not running the That organisation to fall in Pakistan propaganda . This the exactly why was PCB lost the case against BCCI
For example if india would have ready to tour for pakistan than Pakistan has no problem coming to india , right? Than where is security issue which are you talking about.
@Rajdeep I ask this question to @DeadlyVenom about what is the pakistan reason to ask hybrid model..
Simple, because India can afford to, but Pakistan cannot afford to.Because entire world knows the goal of India is to ensure Pak doesn't hold any major tournaments. It is not a security issue but the RSS propaganda which is being used as security concern.
Now if India is not visiting Pak, why should Pak visit to India in that case ?
Yay, you are lucky to be a Pakistani. No wonder rest of the South Asia looks at you guys with envy.
And your entire World= Delusion Pakistan fans. .thats it.Because entire world knows the goal of India is to ensure Pak doesn't hold any major touraustnaments. It is not a security issue but the RSS propaganda which is being used as security concern.
Now if India is not visiting Pak, why should Pak visit to India in that case ?
Pakistan came to India last year to Play the ICC World Cup.
And delusion personals like you're not running the That organisation to fall in Pakistan propaganda . This the exactly why was PCB lost the case against BCCI
For example if india would have ready to tour for pakistan than Pakistan has no problem coming to india , right? Than where is security issue which are you talking about.
@Rajdeep I ask this question to @DeadlyVenom about what is the pakistan reason to ask hybrid model..
I swear the clown shown by BCCI and many Indian fans have thoroughly exposed them and definitely made me dislike them more than ever. I was always neutral about them but i have no shame in admitting that i dislike them and their snakeish hypocritical nature. I always enjoy their gymnastics though. Choti soch, chota dil.I’ll wait for a reliable source. I've seen Indians doing Bhangra in this thread many times, and the very next moment, they're phusss. loving the fake bravado from the Indians
Some of the events Indians have been celebrating with Bhangra and then gone phussss the next day
Keep it coming—we’re loving the Indian comedians in this thread
- Champions Trophy shifting to South Africa
- Champions Trophy shifting to UAE
- Champions Trophy shifted to India without Pakistan
- Champions Trophy will proceed without Pakistan (only for Indian broadcasters to later cry about about missing Pakistan vs. India games)
- PCB given 24 hours to accept the hybrid model, or the Champions Trophy will be taken away from them
- Jay Shah will use the ICC POWER to show Pakistan whose the boss
- PCB accepted the hybrid model without gaining anything in return
- PCB accepted the hybrid model and renamed it
- PCB accepted the hybrid model for three years (but India is co-hosting anyway with Sri Lanka)
after all that talk seriously need to question India's power and control at the moment they are looking like clowns
Again wrong, first you need to understand that security threats depends on various factors.They can ask for hybrid model based on directive from Pakistan government to not tour just as India has done.
These concerns were also expressed in 2023 and relations seem to have deteriorated further since then.
India has also did this security drama in other sports before eventually touring when they were forced to. So it's clear it's just a bit of fun and games from your side. You tried it in tennis but the tennis association rejected that there were security concerns and guess what? India toured.
Not sure why this is difficult to understand.
Oh ok so Indian government lied about initial security threats to tennis stars because I don't know who they are and they aren't HVT?Again wrong, first you need to understand that security threats depends on various factors.
For example Indian cricket team is full of superstar and Whole World know that who is Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma and jaspreet Bumrah.
More of the status of any personality, more are the security Threats for them.
Non state actors are always chose HVT. do you even know that who are the indian tennis player's or other sports players? Answer is clearly no.
Champion trophy is not Pakistan tournament its ICC event's. Pakistan are just hosting it but india has the security threats so they cant go there. Why PCB do not tell ICC that we can organised champions trophy without india??Despite bhangra from India about their power etc etc not one Indian can explain why India is desperate to play ICC champions trophy.
Sure it may be financially lucrative for other boards.
But what does India gain from playing?
Most of their fans keep saying it's a nothing trophy ( after they got hammered in the last final), their board have billions of reserves so don't need to play it for money either, and their league is bigger than international cricket.
I'm surprised that they havent just asked to skip the tournament given how inconsequential it seemingly is for India.
Rest is all fine but why are you crying an desperately want PCB to agree to BCCI? Why Indians are practically begging here? Telling us its in our best interests and all that?Champion trophy is not Pakistan tournament its ICC event's. Pakistan are just hosting it but india has the security threats so they cant go there. Why PCB do not tell ICC that we can organised champions trophy without india??
Pakistan fans are thinking that champion trophy tournament is PCB property .lol
I don't think you understand the point brother.Champion trophy is not Pakistan tournament its ICC event's. Pakistan are just hosting it but india has the security threats so they cant go there. Why PCB do not tell ICC that we can organised champions trophy without india??
Pakistan fans are thinking that champion trophy tournament is PCB property .lol
Who are the begging and for what , everyone know very well.Rest is all fine but why are you crying an desperately want PCB to agree to BCCI? Why Indians are practically begging here? Telling us its in our best interests and all that?
6 other boards are perfectly fine with the security arrangements, does that make them Pakistanis ?And your entire World= Delusion Pakistan fans. .thats it.
NO one buy what is Pakistan think about india apart from Pakistani. #Fact
Because Indian team has real security issue with Pakistan and vice Versa is not true because PCT recently came to india.
Pakistan has to prove the Dispute Resolution Committee which they can't so case will be closed just in 5 minutes in favour of india.
After that PCB will have to pay Compensation to BCCI just like last time .
Why we will be laughingstock on globle stage? Because Pakistan was right?I hope the tournament is not moved out of Pakistan or played without Pakistan’s participation. If that happens, the PCB will be shooting itself in the foot, and we will become a laughingstock on the global stage.
The best option would be to accept a hybrid model: play India in the UAE and host the finals and semifinals in Pakistan, provided India doesn’t reach the knockout stage. While Pakistan could also avoid traveling to India, the PCB’s financial constraints make it difficult for them to dictate terms to the ICC or BCCI
Oh bhai why are India not doing it then?India just needs five minutes to prove there is big security issues for indian player's in pakistan .
Those sport's reporter are lying to the Pakistan people's like their earlier claims about" Mere ghar ke pass bhai ka ghar hai".
They are thinking that there is no security issue for india . Other team's were touring Pakistan still those time australia and England did not toured Pakistan why?
Every team's has different threats perspection . Pakistan will lose this case in just 5 min. Lol
INDIA can show 5 minutes speech ( in a rally where he was threatened india) of UN designated terrorist Masood Azhar who wants to attack indian citizen's.
Cricket suffers, but Govt. policy and champions trophy is a useless tournament anyways. It was meant to die in 2013 itself.You as a fan have no issue with India sitting out this tournament for once and letting other teams play?
The ICC should just come and and announce a solution one way or other. This drama has become boring now.