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Rumours claim Imran Khan is dead; family says police stopping all access

Well, you’ve actually proving his strength as a leader. You could have made that point without dragging in PMN-L’s usual talking points. Everyone has a personal history, marriages, relationships, whatever, and none of that determines a man’s leadership. If your goal was simply to highlight his qualities, you didn’t need to fall back on irrelevant personal details that countless men share.

It’s just as irrelevant as saying, “he should’ve stuck to cricket.
Nah...you misunderstand.

I find him interesting as a person - a fascinating bundle of contradictions. Not as a leader. Everything I highlighted including what you call "irrelevant personal details" is what makes him interesting - a bit like Trump or Maduro or Duerte or perhaps more accurately, Schwarzenegger (bodybuilder, Hollywood superstar, Kennedy family, gubernator, illegitimate child with his maid).

As a politician or a leader, the only thing interesting about him is that he has somehow come to embody the Pakistani people's desire for a voice in how they are governed and the Establishment's iron will to deny them that. He's not remotely great or even interesting otherwise.
 
I think he’s dead. Or dying/in a serious condition. Probably the former. It’s strange how they have squashed the rumours yet by actually showing him or at least hearing him speak to his family.

Whether people feel Imran is corrupt or not. I don’t. The charges they have him on seem very trumped up to be holding a 73 year old man for 14 years in jail. The Al-qadir case it’s difficult to prove Imran khan actually personally benefitted from it and not just charity. The state gifts case, lots of prime ministers and presidents have done that in the past. On one watch sold that was a gift to him. It feels meaningless compared to what the rest have done in state gifts or reputedly stole from the country. Imran doesn’t have the luxuries, foreign properties abroad, immense wealth. If his motives were to steal from the country, he hasn’t done a very good job of it then.

Anything to do with poor governance and poor relations with foreign countries, using media. These things I can actually agree somewhat. But these aren’t criminal charges he should be in jail for.
He’s completely fine

the rumours were deliberately pushed by PTI through Indian and Afghan channels to create panic because he isn’t being allowed family visits. PTI assumed that by stirring public pressure the government would give in and allow a meeting with Imran Khan, but the government isn’t bothered at all they’re relaxed, enjoying life in London.
 
I think he’s dead. Or dying/in a serious condition. Probably the former. It’s strange how they have squashed the rumours yet by actually showing him or at least hearing him speak to his family.

Whether people feel Imran is corrupt or not. I don’t. The charges they have him on seem very trumped up to be holding a 73 year old man for 14 years in jail. The Al-qadir case it’s difficult to prove Imran khan actually personally benefitted from it and not just charity. The state gifts case, lots of prime ministers and presidents have done that in the past. On one watch sold that was a gift to him. It feels meaningless compared to what the rest have done in state gifts or reputedly stole from the country. Imran doesn’t have the luxuries, foreign properties abroad, immense wealth. If his motives were to steal from the country, he hasn’t done a very good job of it then.

Anything to do with poor governance and poor relations with foreign countries, using media. These things I can actually agree somewhat. But these aren’t criminal charges he should be in jail for.
Imran Khan’s sister Aleema Khan owns over Rs450 million property in US.

Imran Khan's Sister Owns Benami Property In Dubai

:kp
 
He’s completely fine

the rumours were deliberately pushed by PTI through Indian and Afghan channels to create panic because he isn’t being allowed family visits. PTI assumed that by stirring public pressure the government would give in and allow a meeting with Imran Khan, but the government isn’t bothered at all they’re relaxed, enjoying life in London.

Hang on..... government is enjoying life in London? What kind of government is this?
 
I don't think Imran is dead. However his last post on X where he directly targets Asim Munir has irked Field Marshal and he has stopped all his meetings. I think he will keep Imran like this, missing from any public viewing for the rest of his life. Slowly he may allow his relatives to meet Imran but no social media posts/public reach will be permitted. I think rest of Khan's life will be under seclusion.
 
Imran Khan’s sister Aleema Khan owns over Rs450 million property in US.

Imran Khan's Sister Owns Benami Property In Dubai

:kp
If they can prove that Imran khan is somehow stealing money from government and giving to his sister fine. She claims it is through business and inheritance.

That isn’t why he’s being held.

The irony is guys like the sharifs, zadari etc have a much higher chance of actually being corrupt and stealing money.

The ones against Imran khan and are in their right to be, from what I see aren’t screaming about money corruption when it comes to him. They are concerned with things such as poor governance, misuse of power in the media, poor foreign relations, perhaps trying to fabricate stories of foreign ousting when he was legitimately voted out and then trying to get the public to stop it.

And yet he is held on relatively minor charges. Which even supporters of sharifs and Zadari aren’t so certain they’re not engaging in financial corruption themselves.
 
If they can prove that Imran khan is somehow stealing money from government and giving to his sister fine. She claims it is through business and inheritance.

That isn’t why he’s being held.

The irony is guys like the sharifs, zadari etc have a much higher chance of actually being corrupt and stealing money.

The ones against Imran khan and are in their right to be, from what I see aren’t screaming about money corruption when it comes to him. They are concerned with things such as poor governance, misuse of power in the media, poor foreign relations, perhaps trying to fabricate stories of foreign ousting when he was legitimately voted out and then trying to get the public to stop it.

And yet he is held on relatively minor charges. Which even supporters of sharifs and Zadari aren’t so certain they’re not engaging in financial corruption themselves.
I am not saying that he has looted Pakistan, I was just correcting you by posting that he has his own property abroad. . :kp
 
I think he’s dead. Or dying/in a serious condition. Probably the former. It’s strange how they have squashed the rumours yet by actually showing him or at least hearing him speak to his family.

Whether people feel Imran is corrupt or not. I don’t. The charges they have him on seem very trumped up to be holding a 73 year old man for 14 years in jail. The Al-qadir case it’s difficult to prove Imran khan actually personally benefitted from it and not just charity. The state gifts case, lots of prime ministers and presidents have done that in the past. On one watch sold that was a gift to him. It feels meaningless compared to what the rest have done in state gifts or reputedly stole from the country. Imran doesn’t have the luxuries, foreign properties abroad, immense wealth. If his motives were to steal from the country, he hasn’t done a very good job of it then.

Anything to do with poor governance and poor relations with foreign countries, using media. These things I can actually agree somewhat. But these aren’t criminal charges he should be in jail for.
It is a stalemate situation, they also don't want to look like they can bend to PTI pressure, else they feel that they may have to concede more things.

It is barbaric treatment.
 
I won’t comment on IK’s policies but it was clear that the guy loves his country and its people. What’s the reaction on the ground? Are people planning to protest or have the masses given up?
 
Hang on..... government is enjoying life in London? What kind of government is this?
Nothing wrong in that government officials from others countries traveling to other countries too,
I dont know why your shocked.

Do you not get holidays from work? Or do you not travel abroad?
 
I don't think Imran is dead. However his last post on X where he directly targets Asim Munir has irked Field Marshal and he has stopped all his meetings. I think he will keep Imran like this, missing from any public viewing for the rest of his life. Slowly he may allow his relatives to meet Imran but no social media posts/public reach will be permitted. I think rest of Khan's life will be under seclusion.
Exactly imran needs to start behaving if he wants to meet his family.
 
What’s the reaction on the ground? Are people planning to protest or have the masses given up?

Masses are busy watching saas-bahu serials on TV at home. They couldn't care less. Indian politicians like Tharoor are the ones expressing concern for Imran, not anyone from Pakistan.
 
I won’t comment on IK’s policies but it was clear that the guy loves his country and its people. What’s the reaction on the ground? Are people planning to protest or have the masses given up?
Nobody really cares except his handfull of fans
 
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