Russia invades Ukraine

[Reddy]

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Monday criticized his Western colleagues for having the wrong attitude towards Russian President Vladimir Putin, contrasting that with his own ability to work with Moscow on issues ranging from the Syrian peace process to last week’s deal to export Ukrainian grain via the Black Sea ports.

“You know the attitude of Western politicians towards Putin,” he told the state broadcaster TRT during a lengthy interview on Monday evening, calling it “unbecoming of politics.”

“The attitude you show him is the attitude you will get in return,” Erdogan explained.

 

[Reddy]

The forces of the LPR, DPR and the Russian Federation took control of the settlement of Novoluganskoye in the DPR, the LPR Ministry of Internal Affairs reported.

 

[Reddy]

Gas prices in the EU have broken through $2,200 per thousand cubic meters !!

 

[Reddy]

American Senator Mike Waltz, after returning from Kiev, said the following: “Zelensky feels that he is slowly losing."

 

[Reddy]

Wagner Group has liberated the Uglegorsk.

 

[Reddy]

Wagner and the 6th regiment of the NM of the LPR, with the support of artillery and aviation of the Allied Forces, have liberated Pokrovskoye.

 

[Reddy]

54th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They say we will not go to the front line.

Video: https://t.me/intelslava/33957

 

[bones]

Wagner Group has liberated the Uglegorsk.

Seems like rest over and time to get back to duty. Pace picking up again.

 

[Junaids]

None of this would have happened if NATO members were willing to negotiate peace since 2014, however, peace in not in the interest of NATO, but war, the bogeyman, and fear, are.

Remember, Zelensky (the Amreekan puppet) came into office, had a peaceful country that traded with everyone. Today his country is in ruins, millions of people have fled, millions of people who may never return. He bet on NATO and NATO used his country as a firing range.

What a strange post.

Firstly, NATO cannot negotiate for Country B (Ukraine, outside NATO) to concede territory to invading Country A (Russia, also outside NATO). That is a bit like me negotiating with [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] for [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] to be given your house and your wife, without your permission.

That's not what NATO is. NATO is a mutual defence arrangement by which member states undertake to support any member nation which is attacked. And they are on high alert here because Russia has threatened numerous current and future NATO members since they invaded Ukraine (which itself borders NATO nations).

Secondly, the idea of Zelensky as an American puppet is ludicrous.

Zelensky was democratically elected while Trump was the American president, and Trump despised him, to the point that he got himself impeached for blocking approved American arms deliveries to the Ukraine, because Trump tried to use them as a bargaining chip to extort Zelensky into manufacturing fake dirt on Hunter Biden to try to steal the 2020 election.

So there are two parts to your post, and they are both 100% factually unsound.

 

[Junaids]

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Monday criticized his Western colleagues for having the wrong attitude towards Russian President Vladimir Putin,

“The attitude you show him is the attitude you will get in return,” Erdogan explained.

....says the guy whose Air Force shot down a Russian Su-24 and killed its pilot.......

 

[Junaids]

We should stop calling this Western pact by its political name NATO, it is time to call a spade a spade, NATO is the military arm for the Judeo-Christian alliance.

Is that the level of debate here? Really?

No wonder you excuse the most outrageous Russian atrocities and war crimes, and always find a way to defend the aggressor.

But there's a teeny-weeny flaw to your argument that NATO is the military arm of the imaginary "Judeo-Christian alliance".

Like, the "Judeo" part means Jewish. And you might not have noticed, but Israel isn't actually in NATO, while Turkey - an Islamic nation - is.

But you are going to be completely impervious to logic or argument as long as you believe nonsensical anti-semitic tropes like that the "Judeo-Christian alliance" is at play here.

To be honest, it's probably time for a number of us - especially [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] - to stop interacting with you at all, because if we are not careful now that you have shown your true colours you are going to get us all thrown onto some sort of watchlist or No-Fly list.

This is a cricket forum in which we amicably discuss politics and other sports on Time Pass and share a diversity of opinions. But if it is going to become a place for bigotry, and anti-semitism is just as evil as Islamophobia, then we need to call it a day before this backfires badly.

 

[Technics 1210]

What a strange post.

Firstly, NATO cannot negotiate for Country B (Ukraine, outside NATO) to concede territory to invading Country A (Russia, also outside NATO). That is a bit like me negotiating with [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] for [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] to be given your house and your wife, without your permission.

That's not what NATO is. NATO is a mutual defence arrangement by which member states undertake to support any member nation which is attacked. And they are on high alert here because Russia has threatened numerous current and future NATO members since they invaded Ukraine (which itself borders NATO nations).

Secondly, the idea of Zelensky as an American puppet is ludicrous.

Zelensky was democratically elected while Trump was the American president, and Trump despised him, to the point that he got himself impeached for blocking approved American arms deliveries to the Ukraine, because Trump tried to use them as a bargaining chip to extort Zelensky into manufacturing fake dirt on Hunter Biden to try to steal the 2020 election.

So there are two parts to your post, and they are both 100% factually unsound.

Strange because NATO should've negotiate peace? Wow. Proves one point certainly, NATO apologists are not interested in peace.

And get real, Ukraine is NOT a member of NATO. So save this baloney of "NATO is a mutual defence arrangement by which member states undertake to support any member nation which is attacked." You need to seriously do some reading.

Also if you believe Zelensky was democratically elected, then Crimea held a valid referendum to join Russia. Yes?

Trump is neither here nor there, he was going to pull out NATO until Europe were begging him not to. Reveals just how weak Europe is without Amreeka, that's being a lapdog for you. Though Biden and his dodgy dealings in Ukraine are relevant.

Manufactured dirt on Hunter Biden. LOL. His emails, pics, and voice recordings have been leaked on the onternet. It's all over the MSM, but hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

[Junaids]

Wagner Group has liberated the Uglegorsk.

Just for the record, for people who are unfamiliar with this:

The Wagner Group is a terrorist organisation of mercenaries, bankrolled and deployed mainly by the Russian government, which has been sanctioned by the EU for serious human rights abuses including murder, torture, rape and looting.

In particular, the Wagner Group has an appalling record of criminal behaviour towards Muslim civilians, notably in both Mali and Syria. Former members have given testimony that they play games with one another about how many Muslim women they can each rape in a week, with bonus points for killing them afterwards, and extra points for how many of their victims' children they can also kill.

So talk of the Wagner Group "liberating" anyone is rather similar to being liberated by Jack The Ripper.

 

[Technics 1210]

Is that the level of debate here? Really?

I am not debating, I am stating my opinion. Deal with it, or ignore it, melodramatic liberal meltdowns don't count.

Once again, I firmly believe NATO is the military arm of the Judeo-Christian alliance, an alliance that is exemplified by the union of Amreeka and Isreal, and supported by countless wars in the ME by Western forces which only benefit Isreal and the Petrodollar.

 

[topspin]

Is that the level of debate here? Really?

No wonder you excuse the most outrageous Russian atrocities and war crimes, and always find a way to defend the aggressor.

But there's a teeny-weeny flaw to your argument that NATO is the military arm of the imaginary "Judeo-Christian alliance".

Like, the "Judeo" part means Jewish. And you might not have noticed, but Israel isn't actually in NATO, while Turkey - an Islamic nation - is.

But you are going to be completely impervious to logic or argument as long as you believe nonsensical anti-semitic tropes like that the "Judeo-Christian alliance" is at play here.

To be honest, it's probably time for a number of us - especially [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] - to stop interacting with you at all, because if we are not careful now that you have shown your true colours you are going to get us all thrown onto some sort of watchlist or No-Fly list.

This is a cricket forum in which we amicably discuss politics and other sports on Time Pass and share a diversity of opinions. But if it is going to become a place for bigotry, and anti-semitism is just as evil as Islamophobia, then we need to call it a day before this backfires badly.

I completely agree but none of this surprises me. He takes inspiration from the far-right and Trump, who was the king of fake news, conspiracy theories and saying all kinds of twisted stuff.

His mask has slipped once again. Too many nights out was never going to help him come up with anything that is factual because this is what happens when you're no longer of sound mind.

 

[cpleigh]

Main bridge our of kherson.... boom! That's 15k Russian troops trapped.

 

[Robert]

I have limited input in this matter, but whatever I do know I'm convinced NATO are a barbaric alliance headed by the USA.
.

You’re ignoring my points now, which are all historical fact - sticking your fingers in your ears to avoid hearing evidence which s contrary to your beliefs.

The deplorable actions of individual states signed up to NATO but acting outside the control of NATO HQ in Brussels are not the actions of NATO. You might as well argue that because a few Muslims have committed acts of terror, that all Muslims are a single homogeneous terrorist entity. This is what racists say. Whereas most Muslims are peaceful and law-abiding.

Try to develop your own arguments based on historical evidence.

 

[Robert]

To be honest, it's probably time for a number of us - especially [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] - to stop interacting with you at all, because if we are not careful now that you have shown your true colours you are going to get us all thrown onto some sort of watchlist or No-Fly list.

This is a cricket forum in which we amicably discuss politics and other sports on Time Pass and share a diversity of opinions. But if it is going to become a place for bigotry, and anti-semitism is just as evil as Islamophobia, then we need to call it a day before this backfires badly.

A disturbing thought which I had not considered.

I have a large footprint here with 30,000+ posts and at one time asked the mods to delete them all, but they ignored my request.

The site says posters can close their account any time they like, but there doesn’t seem to me a mechanism for doing this.

 

[Junaids]

Main bridge our of kherson.... boom! That's 15k Russian troops trapped.

And sooner or later - at the moment of optimal strategic value - the bridge from Russia to Crimea will be blown up too.

And then the Russians will be trapped in Crimea.

 

[Technics 1210]

Ukraine will pursue war-crimes charges against leaders of JPMorgan Chase, Citi, and HSBC over Russia financing, Zelenskyy's economic advisor says

Ukraine is pursuing war-crimes charges against leaders of JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, and other major Western banks over their purported indirect financing of the Russian state, an economic advisor to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Tuesday.

"There is no doubt that Russia is committing war crimes in Ukraine, against Ukrainians," Oleg Ustenko, the advisor, said in an interview with CNBC. "In our logic, everybody who is financing these war criminals who are doing these terrible things in Ukraine are also committing war crimes."

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukr...s-leaders-jpmorgan-citi-hsbc-2022-7?r=US&IR=T

This comedian now thinks he is the president of the world. He's happy to accept funding and weapons from the West but threatens to sue any company doing business with Russians.

Zelensky forgets that he is a mere stooge in this proxy war and clearly has a lot to learn about who funds and benefits from such wars.

 

[Robert]

And sooner or later - at the moment of optimal strategic value - the bridge from Russia to Crimea will be blown up too.

And then the Russians will be trapped in Crimea.

They can be resupplied by the Russian Fleet though. Putin controls the Sea of Azov.

 

[Reddy]

The 28th mechanized and 79th air assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were badly hit by Product-305E high-precision missiles, the losses of the Ukrainians amounted to two hundred military personnel and more than 20 units of armored and special vehicles.

Video: https://t.me/asbmil/3345

 

[Reddy]

The Kherson bridge still stands, the damages will be repaired in 2-3 days and movement will resume.

 

[Technics 1210]

The Russians annihilated the German Wehrmacht in World War II, at that time the best army in the world, but with incredible sacrifices. Russia lost more people in Stalingrad alone than the US in the entire war. No army on this planet, Amreeka, UK, & China included, would have any chance against Russia.

Ukraine is currently being dealt with like a little dog that barks a bit too much, and the dog walker (NATO) is about to run for the hills.

 

[Reddy]

According to updated data, on July 24, a Russian Aerospace Forces strike on an ammunition depot near the settlement of Lyubimovka, Dnepropetrovsk region, destroyed more than a hundred missiles for the US-made Himars multiple launch rocket system.

Up to 120 military personnel guarding the facility, as well as foreign mercenaries and NATO technical specialists, were liquidated.

 

[Technics 1210]

Gas prices soar as Russia cuts German supply! European gas prices rose 9%, trading close to its earlier all-time high after Russia invaded Ukraine.

We're still in summer, wait till winter!

Ukraine isn't the only country ruing the day it put faith in Amreeka! Western Sanctions will ruin Russia Amreeka claimed, oh my, how wrong they were. I guess this is what the West expected after decades of the bullying the weak. Perhaps Uncle Sam can send Europe some blankets instead of weapons.

Uncle Sam, doesn't give a Damn!

 

[Reddy]

Gas prices in the EU have broken through $2,300 per thousand cubic meters !!

 

[Manunited18]

NATO, USA, and its hypocritical polices have ruined the common humans every day life.

 

[Robert]

NATO, USA, and its hypocritical polices have ruined the common humans every day life.

I'm a common human. NATO has safeguarded the peace in Europe and allowed it to become a safe, just, free and prosperous place for the 750 million people who live there.

 

[Technics 1210]

NATO, USA, and its hypocritical polices have ruined the common humans every day life.

Correct.

NATO or USA, same difference. No USA, no NATO.

USA and UK waged an illegal war in Iraq, and USA and UK are also members of NATO. Logic states, NATO members waged an illegal war in Iraq. The rest is just semantics. NATO apologists will claim the Iraq war was not ratified by NATO, but in fact, was approved by the USA and UK.

The West will gloss their warmongering activities using the NATO banner when they feel like it! They only care about peace in Europe and North America! The rest of the world, the West just does not care.

The West talk about liberation, ok, but when you see the West turn a blind eye on Yemen, on Zimbabwe, on Rwanda, on Myanmar, on Palestine, then it is clear the West do not care about anyone outside their sphere. This includes the 5 eyes alliance, USA, UK, Canada, Australia, and NZ - oh look - former British colonies, all White, and Christian nations.

When we hear about 'modern peace time', this phrase refers to NA/Europe only, not the rest of the world, not especially the Middle East that has been a victim of NEOCON/Zionist agenda since post WW2.

 

[Technics 1210]

Oh one more thing, NATO was born out of post WW2. It wasn't just USA and parts of Europe that fought against the 'axis of evil' with the allies - India, Ethiopia, South Africa, China, Egypt, Philippines et al, also helped the West defeat Nazism - so it begs the question, why isn't NATO protection offered to allies outside of NA/Europe? You guessed it folks, we all know what underpins the Western agenda.

 

[bones]

I'm a common human. NATO has safeguarded the peace in Europe and allowed it to become a safe, just, free and prosperous place for the 750 million people who live there.

Please complete your statement.

...at the expensive of asian, african and south american countries.

 

[Technics 1210]

Please complete your statement.

...at the expensive of asian, african and south american countries.

The statement reeks of selfishness. On one hand the statement eludes to the common human, on the other the statement defines the common human as European. What about humans outside of Europe? Are they not human? Are they not common? Well no, not in terms of colour of skin or in terms of ideology compared to Europeans.

If there’s one silver lining of the Ukraine war, that is the expose of Western hypocrisy, racism, and selfishness of the West.

 

[JaDed]

https://www.businessinsider.com/imf...lash-most-countries-forecast-recession-2022-7

Despite sweeping sanctions, Russia's economic outlook has improved since April — but it's gotten worse for almost every other country

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I would like to believe that the price western nations are paying for current scenario would be worth in the long term.

 

[Technics 1210]

Russia is winning the real war, the economic war. Remember, the West always imposed sanctions to cripple the weaker nations into submission. Western sanctions on Russia have failed; totally outplayed by Putin.

Russia will not submit to the West! No country in the world outside the NA/European sphere should ever submit to the bullying tactics of the West and its religious underbelly agenda!

 

[KingKhanWC]

I wish we would.

I would be completely in favour of the USA and UK launching simultaneous conventional strikes on Russia's military facilities from Konigsberg in the West to Murmansk in the Arctic to Vladivostok in the East. And also on the gas pipelines from Russia to the rest of the world.

Your answer should have been , Europe and US should look for a peace treaty to end the suffering and end the threat to world peace.

But as a hardened supporter of western military , you want more bloodshed and a huge war. Because as you are aware, Russia will retaliate with their own missiles. Or do you believe Russia striking London with a nuclear missile in response would be wrong and only west is allowed to bomb?

 

[KingKhanWC]

I have limited input in this matter, but whatever I do know I'm convinced NATO are a barbaric alliance headed by the USA.

You should tag @Technics and [MENTION=4738]King Khan[/MENTION] who have much superior knowledge and input compared to me who wouldn't hesitate to correct you.

Brother, NATO is nothing mere than another alliance of United States and its poodles. Remember Tony Bliar the war criminal was called a poodle by the world after he supported over to George Bush and America in one a disgusting immoral war in Iraq. Children are still being born with defects because of the chemical weapons used against a civilian population, a huge war crime which has been ignored.

United States supports Israeli, its supports occupation, opression and state terrorism. Check its history, it has been at war for 90% of the time since WW2. It has changed elected governments. Only nation to use nuclear weapons. The list is too long.

Only an ignorant or undeducated person will ever consider the US, UK and its other poodles as the good guys. Its actually an insult to anyone's intelligence to even entertain this notion.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Main bridge our of kherson.... boom! That's 15k Russian troops trapped.

lol.

Do you have any photos?

Russia and the local leader have commented and shown photos. The bridge is intact, most of the missiles were shot down by Russian anti-air defences , only a few holes on the bridge.

 

[Manunited18]

Brother, NATO is nothing mere than another alliance of United States and its poodles. Remember Tony Bliar the war criminal was called a poodle by the world after he supported over to George Bush and America in one a disgusting immoral war in Iraq. Children are still being born with defects because of the chemical weapons used against a civilian population, a huge war crime which has been ignored.

United States supports Israeli, its supports occupation, opression and state terrorism. Check its history, it has been at war for 90% of the time since WW2. It has changed elected governments. Only nation to use nuclear weapons. The list is too long.

Only an ignorant or undeducated person will ever consider the US, UK and its other poodles as the good guys. Its actually an insult to anyone's intelligence to even entertain this notion.

Absolutely. You guys are spot on, only the insane person will turn a blind eye on the after effects of what USA and NATO have done outside of Europe. Smacks of utter hypocrisy.

 

[Technics 1210]

Your answer should have been , Europe and US should look for a peace treaty to end the suffering and end the threat to world peace.

But as a hardened supporter of western military , you want more bloodshed and a huge war. Because as you are aware, Russia will retaliate with their own missiles. Or do you believe Russia striking London with a nuclear missile in response would be wrong and only west is allowed to bomb?

Correction : Not to end the threat to world peace, but ensure peace in Europe. Liberals in this thread have let their mask slip, they only care about Europe, the common human, and their puppeteers in Amreeka. Rest of the world can go to hell as far as they are concerned, oh except Isreal - can’t say a word about Isreal, it is “anti-semetic”.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Is that the level of debate here? Really?

No wonder you excuse the most outrageous Russian atrocities and war crimes, and always find a way to defend the aggressor.

But there's a teeny-weeny flaw to your argument that NATO is the military arm of the imaginary "Judeo-Christian alliance".

Like, the "Judeo" part means Jewish. And you might not have noticed, but Israel isn't actually in NATO, while Turkey - an Islamic nation - is.

But you are going to be completely impervious to logic or argument as long as you believe nonsensical anti-semitic tropes like that the "Judeo-Christian alliance" is at play here.

To be honest, it's probably time for a number of us - especially [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] - to stop interacting with you at all, because if we are not careful now that you have shown your true colours you are going to get us all thrown onto some sort of watchlist or No-Fly list.

This is a cricket forum in which we amicably discuss politics and other sports on Time Pass and share a diversity of opinions. But if it is going to become a place for bigotry, and anti-semitism is just as evil as Islamophobia, then we need to call it a day before this backfires badly.

Embarrassing post to read.

I agree your debating skills along with others posters supporting US alliance blindly shouldn't continue to embarrass yourselves.

You cry bigotry but supporters like yourself want those who speak against foreign policy to leave the country but this is not bigotry?

You want an all out war but will you put your money where you mouth is and join the battle on the frontline ? I guarantee you wont as you'd rather cheerlead from the sidle lines esp knowing you'll be safe in Australia while us in Europe could face a war which the world has never seen.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Absolutely. You guys are spot on, only the insane person will turn a blind eye on the after effects of what USA and NATO have done outside of Europe. Smacks of utter hypocrisy.

Its worse, they support and cheerlead this hegemony on the planet. They dont believe US, UK troops in Iraq is an occupation ...even after the Iraqi parliament voted for them to leave. ITs only democracy if bombed into it and they accept being slaves of the US and its poodles.

This is directly related to this conflict. Oliver STone is an American, a very educated man who sees things with a clear unbiased mind.

I would also watch is showtime series of interviews with Putin. We have some here who call Putin evil but see Blair and Bush as heros, such is the brainwashed delusion.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Correction : Not to end the threat to world peace, but ensure peace in Europe. Liberals in this thread have let their mask slip, they only care about Europe, the common human, and their puppeteers in Amreeka. Rest of the world can go to hell as far as they are concerned, oh except Isreal - can’t say a word about Isreal, it is “anti-semetic”.

One of the reasons for this attack on Russia is Israel is worried having a powerful Orthodox Christian Russia. Muslims and Christians must be weakened or destroyed in order for Zionist plan to take over Jerusalem.

Now we have some clowns thinking US and its poodles cares about Ukrainians and is some moral light against aggression .the same clowns then support US, UK alliance with Israel, the biggest and longest occupier in modern history.

 

[Technics 1210]

One of the reasons for this attack on Russia is Israel is worried having a powerful Orthodox Christian Russia. Muslims and Christians must be weakened or destroyed in order for Zionist plan to take over Jerusalem.

Now we have some clowns thinking US and its poodles cares about Ukrainians and is some moral light against aggression .the same clowns then support US, UK alliance with Israel, the biggest and longest occupier in modern history.

Spot on. Zionists not only oppose Orthodox Christians, but also Orthodox Jews, and these Zionists have formed an alliance with the rightwing faction of Christians in the West. You only have to look at the House and Senate of Amreeka, to realise Amreeka isn't the land of the free given their government is owned and funded by Zionists. Guess who does the dirty work? NATO.

It saddens me, Muslim genocide in Bosnia and not a peep from Liberals, but mention Isreal, and the sheep come out in their droves to defend Isreal, including Athiests.

The brainwashing is strong. Got to hand it to the Zionist controlled media in the West. Sterling job.

 

[Reddy]

High Energy Prices Force One In Six German Firms To Cut Production

One of every six German industrial companies feels forced to reduce production due to high energy prices, a survey by the Association of German Chambers of Industry and Commerce, DIHK, showed on Monday.

The energy-intensive industries and firms are particularly hit, as 32 percent of the companies plan to or have already started to reduce production and even halt entire production lines, the DIHK survey showed.

Commenting on the poll, DIHK president Peter Adrian said "These are alarming numbers."

The survey shows how high energy prices could permanently erode Germany's industrial strength, the association's president added.

"Many companies have no choice but to close down or relocate production," Adrian said.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-...ne-In-Six-German-Firms-To-Cut-Production.html

 

[KingKhanWC]

High Energy Prices Force One In Six German Firms To Cut Production

One of every six German industrial companies feels forced to reduce production due to high energy prices, a survey by the Association of German Chambers of Industry and Commerce, DIHK, showed on Monday.

The energy-intensive industries and firms are particularly hit, as 32 percent of the companies plan to or have already started to reduce production and even halt entire production lines, the DIHK survey showed.

Commenting on the poll, DIHK president Peter Adrian said "These are alarming numbers."

The survey shows how high energy prices could permanently erode Germany's industrial strength, the association's president added.

"Many companies have no choice but to close down or relocate production," Adrian said.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-...ne-In-Six-German-Firms-To-Cut-Production.html

Reminds of history, WW1. Germany was the fastest growing industrial power in Europe. Most high Rabbis in Germany at the time were anti-Zionism. Germany then sees war as Zionists wanted to break the powerful nation. It eventually led to WW2 by the end almost all these anti-Zionist Rabbis were killed.

Its a different plan now but Germans need to wake up and end this madness of shooting yourself in both feet. Give two fingers to America, take the gas and open Nordstream2 also.

 

[JaDed]

Did anyone see the Vogue photoshoot , I mean wth how did they think that was appropriate in anyway, the PR firm should be fired for that.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/ukraine-president-volodymyr-zelensky-wife-appear-on-vogue-cover-internet-gives-mixed-reaction-3198628

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Did anyone see the Vogue photoshoot , I mean wth how did they think that was appropriate in anyway, the PR firm should be fired for that.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/ukr...e-cover-internet-gives-mixed-reaction-3198628

He is just a puppet.

 

[JaDed]

He is just a puppet.

Which is fine but even puppets require PR firm.. I can’t imagine any PR firm giving this a go ahead.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Which is fine but even puppets require PR firm.. I can’t imagine any PR firm giving this a go ahead.

Puppets do not care about common people. They are literal psychopaths who are incapable of empathy.

PR firm people would have been more worried about getting their paycheck.

 

[Pakpak]

I don't know instead of this mindless war of attrition where after months this war is dragging on why doesn't Russia just announce a mobilisation? And get it over with? Or are they scared that with a full mobilisation they'd have to announce the casualties which they've been hit with?

 

[Technics 1210]

Reminds of history, WW1. Germany was the fastest growing industrial power in Europe. Most high Rabbis in Germany at the time were anti-Zionism. Germany then sees war as Zionists wanted to break the powerful nation. It eventually led to WW2 by the end almost all these anti-Zionist Rabbis were killed.

Its a different plan now but Germans need to wake up and end this madness of shooting yourself in both feet. Give two fingers to America, take the gas and open Nordstream2 also.

You want to know the most hilarious yet cunning role of the Zionists in WW1? Zionists blamed Germany for WW1 and Germany had to pay repatriations (Treaty of Versailles), land taken from Germany, and of course, hyperinflation destroyed Germany - only one problem - Germany did not start WW1.

Zionists got their stooge, got their Balfour declaration, yet history wonders why Hitler despised the Jews, and the rest is history.

Zionists are the biggest backers and funders of war; it's how they got rich.

 

[bones]

Seems like the Americans haven't taken the humiliation in Ukraine that well. The Biden administration is desperate and they're on course to lose the mid-terms big time. Whats the best way to deal with this situation? You'd think making peace with Russia over Ukraine given that Ukraine is losing.

But no, the best idea is to provoke the Chinese who kept warning you.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mil...rrier-group-heads-towards-taiwan-tension-over

 

[bones]

I don't know instead of this mindless war of attrition where after months this war is dragging on why doesn't Russia just announce a mobilisation? And get it over with? Or are they scared that with a full mobilisation they'd have to announce the casualties which they've been hit with?

They don't need to mobilise. In fact they were and are rotating their troops on a daily basis. Right now the main Russian troops are resting whilst the mercenaries, Chechens and Donbas militias are fighting. Miliitary analysts are suggesting they're getting ready for one big push towards Kramatorsk and Slavayansk in the same way they made rapid moves around Severodonestk and Lysychansk.

The reason it's taking so long is because the Ukranians with the help with NATO have built fortified lines for the last 8 years. These are not easy to waltz through. Remember this is a huge country with a huge army. The tactics are simple from the Russians. Artillery, artillery and rockets on Ukranian lines. When they have been softened up, send in the infantry to finish off the remains. Then a clean up of the area is required because of all the mines and traps left behind. Once this is all done, they can establish their positions and then get ready to hit the next area. These tactics are slow, but they save so many lives in their armed forces. Just understand this territory they are taking, they are taking it for good. They have no plans to ever return any of it so a clean up is required.

 

[Pakpak]

They don't need to mobilise. In fact they were and are rotating their troops on a daily basis. Right now the main Russian troops are resting whilst the mercenaries, Chechens and Donbas militias are fighting. Miliitary analysts are suggesting they're getting ready for one big push towards Kramatorsk and Slavayansk in the same way they made rapid moves around Severodonestk and Lysychansk.

The reason it's taking so long is because the Ukranians with the help with NATO have built fortified lines for the last 8 years. These are not easy to waltz through. Remember this is a huge country with a huge army. The tactics are simple from the Russians. Artillery, artillery and rockets on Ukranian lines. When they have been softened up, send in the infantry to finish off the remains. Then a clean up of the area is required because of all the mines and traps left behind. Once this is all done, they can establish their positions and then get ready to hit the next area. These tactics are slow, but they save so many lives in their armed forces. Just understand this territory they are taking, they are taking it for good. They have no plans to ever return any of it so a clean up is required.

Russia was the second if not the third powerful nation in the world.

Ukraine, known for many things, was not known for any military prowess and had a garbage military with little to no or air power and no power compared to the Russians.

It's been half a year now. The only way the Russians win is to call for a full mobilisation and go at it with the 1 million active military they supposedly have. This paper tiger force of 90,000 men won't do any better. The number of men is simply too small. I'm amazed they've held onto the South with a skeleton army tho even there I'm hearing there are now losses near Kherson.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Russia was the second if not the third powerful nation in the world.

Ukraine, known for many things, was not known for any military prowess and had a garbage military with little to no or air power and no power compared to the Russians.

It's been half a year now. The only way the Russians win is to call for a full mobilisation and go at it with the 1 million active military they supposedly have. This paper tiger force of 90,000 men won't do any better. The number of men is simply too small. I'm amazed they've held onto the South with a skeleton army tho even there I'm hearing there are now losses near Kherson.

Russians have won a long time ago bro. Those Eastern regions will not be returning to Ukraine. Ukraine's military is in tatters, idiotically firing HIMARs into civilians areas. Ukraine would need around 200 HIMARs to make any serious moves against Russia. The Nazis of Azov have been killed in huge numbers too.

As for time, its on Russia's side. Dont forget this isnt just a military conflict but an economic war & a global world order change war. The longer the war continues, the more Europe will suffer.

Russia can turn off the gas and oil tap, this alone will send Oil to a price never imagined in history. Even us in the UK will have to pay higher prices for Gas because its linked to global markets. As for military, Russia has enough missiles to turn Ukraine in rubble. But Russia is not America, its not as cowardly. It doesn't want to destroy areas it will control forever now. Reason why Russia hasn't tried to liberate Odessa, its a historic religious city for them.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You want to know the most hilarious yet cunning role of the Zionists in WW1? Zionists blamed Germany for WW1 and Germany had to pay repatriations (Treaty of Versailles), land taken from Germany, and of course, hyperinflation destroyed Germany - only one problem - Germany did not start WW1.

Zionists got their stooge, got their Balfour declaration, yet history wonders why Hitler despised the Jews, and the rest is history.

Zionists are the biggest backers and funders of war; it's how they got rich.

Spot on.

Zionist Jews sold out Germany for a bag of chips. Only a fool would accept WW1 started because of the assassination of one man. One thing we have to accept is Zionists are very smart people, they are masters of deception. They have shaped the world for them without coming out in the open. Remember Russia and Israel have been in conflict over Syria and Iran. Zionists fear a strong Orthodox Christian nation and it almost seems like God is on Putins side too.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Ukraine war: Pro-Putin chants cause outrage at Turkish football match

Ukrainian officials have condemned Turkish football fans who chanted Russian leader Vladimir Putin's name at a Champions League clash in Istanbul.

Thousands of Fenerbahce supporters joined in the chant after their team conceded a goal to Ukrainian champions Dynamo Kyiv.

Ukrainian Ambassador Vasyl Bodnar said the incident had "saddened" him deeply.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62332847

Class from Fenerbache fans.

 

[Technics 1210]

Spot on.

Zionist Jews sold out Germany for a bag of chips. Only a fool would accept WW1 started because of the assassination of one man. One thing we have to accept is Zionists are very smart people, they are masters of deception. They have shaped the world for them without coming out in the open. Remember Russia and Israel have been in conflict over Syria and Iran. Zionists fear a strong Orthodox Christian nation and it almost seems like God is on Putins side too.

Orthodox Christians lay blame on the Jews for the death of Jesus, and the Zionists cannot stomach this fact.

What's more US Congress approves funding for Ukraine war, and who controls and represents the Congress in a majority? Yup, Zionists.

Zionists are profiteering from both sides on the Ukraine war, same way Zionists profited from both sides in WW2 by entering into an agreement with Nazis in WW2 - The Harvana Agreement.

History repeating itself, but Zionists have pulled out all the strings to ensure Zionists and Isreal are beyond critisim and as you know have made the questioning of Holocaust illegal in 14 nations.

God is definitely on Putin's side; the world has woken up, but the Amreekans and Europeans remain hypnotized by the Zionist propaganda.

 

[Technics 1210]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62332847

Class from Fenerbache fans.

Cold showers as German city of Hanover reacts to Russian gas crisis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62335911

Cold showers might cool the Germans during summer, but once winter is in, even the showers will be frozen.

The price you pay for siding with Zionist controlled Amreeka.

Perhaps Zelensky will be gifted a suit to keep warm, because his T-Shirt image will fail during winter.

 

[bones]

Ukraine and the west are winning according to some people who feast on western propaganda.

But check this out.

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-07-27/martin-lewis-warns-of-catastrophic-energy-price-hikes-in-january

How the feck is the Europe winning for example? Bills that were £300 per quarter are now £500. In January it could be £600. All because of these dumb sanctions from these ******** leaders of the collective west.

 

[Technics 1210]

Ukraine and the west are winning according to some people who feast on western propaganda.

But check this out.

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-07-27/martin-lewis-warns-of-catastrophic-energy-price-hikes-in-january

How the feck is the Europe winning for example? Bills that were £300 per quarter are now £500. In January it could be £600. All because of these dumb sanctions from these ******** leaders of the collective west.

Western Propaganda is strong, but reality is the pockets of Europeans and Amreekans says otherwise - Skint, and cold.

The fact is the West don't have the balls to admit the truth, so as usual they resort to lies.

 

[mazkhan]

This is all planned lockdowns , climate change con and ukraine war for the collapse of world economy and food crisis so the zionists can start a ww3 and prepare the grounds for the dajjal.

They need to destroy so they can put in a society controlled by the state , AI automation , peoples food money travel controlled dependent on the state since dajjal will have full control and if you don't accept you will go hungry .

 

[KingKhanWC]

Cold showers as German city of Hanover reacts to Russian gas crisis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62335911

Cold showers might cool the Germans during summer, but once winter is in, even the showers will be frozen.

The price you pay for siding with Zionist controlled Amreeka.

Perhaps Zelensky will be gifted a suit to keep warm, because his T-Shirt image will fail during winter.

Will Germany run out of toilet paper due to the crisis in Ukraine?

Due to the crisis in Ukraine, prices in Germany are rising sharply – experts are already warning of the first bottlenecks. In addition to the heavy dependence on Russia in the energy sector, aluminum producers and the food trade sector, including grain products, could also be affected by the change, as the Wholesale and Foreign Trade Association (BGA) explained in Berlin on Thursday. There could also be shortages of toilet paper and kitchen towels. Other goods in short supply could become chemical cleaning products and honey.

https://insidegermany.co/will-germany-run-out-of-toilet-paper-due-to-the-crisis-in-ukraine/

Germans in solidarity with Ukrainians willing not to use toilet paper anylonger. )

 

[Reddy]

Hungary's Prime Minister: We are sitting in a car that has a puncture in all four tyres: it is absolutely clear that the war cannot be won in this way.

Orban said the war, weapons and sanctions strategy has failed as governments in Europe are collapsing 'like dominoes', energy prices have surged and a new strategy was needed now.

Ukraine will never win the war this way 'quite simply because the Russian army has asymmetrical dominance'.

Orban said there was no chance for peace talks between Russia and Ukraine.

'As Russia wants security guarantees, this war can be ended only with peace talks between Russia and America,' he said.

 

[cpleigh]

Video of Russian soldiers castrating a captured Ukrainian soldier.

Animals

 

[JaDed]

This is all planned lockdowns , climate change con and ukraine war for the collapse of world economy and food crisis so the zionists can start a ww3 and prepare the grounds for the dajjal.

They need to destroy so they can put in a society controlled by the state , AI automation , peoples food money travel controlled dependent on the state since dajjal will have full control and if you don't accept you will go hungry .

What? Shouldnt that have happened during WW2 then? Are you saying Americans saved the world?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Video of Russian soldiers castrating a captured Ukrainian soldier.

Animals

Still waiting for evidence of the bridge?

Besides Im not sure if this is an issue for you as Nazis from Ukraine have done much worse on a large scale but thats ok?

 

[Reddy]

The discount on Russian oil shrinks from $20-$30 per barrel to $8-13$ due to high demand

"In May and June, Sinopec bought some 20 million barrels of Russian ESPO crude, but is expected to purchase less for July because it was outbid by Indian refiners. According to the report, Sinopec bid for Russian ESPO at a $20-per-barrel discount to the Middle East benchmark price. Other Chinese buyers, including state-owned CNOOC and PetroChina, outbid Sinopec in July.

That $20 discount is what Sinopec was getting in May and June, but for July, other bidders are offering to lift Russian ESPO for a $13 discount, and some for as low as an $8 discount, according to Reuters."

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-...-And-India-Are-Buying-Less-Russian-Crude.html

 

[cpleigh]

Still waiting for evidence of the bridge?

Besides Im not sure if this is an issue for you as Nazis from Ukraine have done much worse on a large scale but thats ok?

What worse? The Russian crimes are there for u to see... But you come back with "but Ukraine have done worse" with not evidence apart from some made up rubbish from RT.

British Intel pretty much confirmed it lad

 

[KingKhanWC]

What worse? The Russian crimes are there for u to see... But you come back with "but Ukraine have done worse" with not evidence apart from some made up rubbish from RT.

British Intel pretty much confirmed it lad

British Intel )

The same clowns who said Saddam can hit UK within in 45 mins? I guarantee you swallowed that too.

Russians have released photo, video, audio, witness evidence. You have provided the BBC and British Intel. lol

The Nazis are done, Russia is chilling now. But its ok, the UK citizens can keep suffering for the fascists. How very kind of you.

 

[Junaids]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-film-castrating-Ukrainian-prisoner-war.html

So within 24 hours of America confirming that Russia has lost 50% of its entire army men and materials, we know see that the Ukrainian people have all seen video taken by Russian soldiers cutting off the penis and testicles of a captured ethnic-Russian Ukrainian soldier.

I can’t see Ukraine ever making concessions to these Russian savages. And all the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian Russians whom Russia has forcibly relocated to Russia are now potential anti-Russian terrorists.

I’m struggling to see Russia’s exit strategy.

 

[Junaids]

Video of Russian soldiers castrating a captured Ukrainian soldier.

Animals

The Russians are just murderous rapists.

And everyone who defends them is beneath contempt.

 

[bones]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-film-castrating-Ukrainian-prisoner-war.html

So within 24 hours of America confirming that Russia has lost 50% of its entire army men and materials, we know see that the Ukrainian people have all seen video taken by Russian soldiers cutting off the penis and testicles of a captured ethnic-Russian Ukrainian soldier.

I can’t see Ukraine ever making concessions to these Russian savages. And all the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian Russians whom Russia has forcibly relocated to Russia are now potential anti-Russian terrorists.

I’m struggling to see Russia’s exit strategy.

Using a tabloid as a reference which in turn is using Belingcat as a reference. I mean do you actually think before you waste our time with this garbage?

The only people desperate for an exit strategy are the collective west, they haven't made any major inroads into the Russian economy and are capitulating themselves. Just look at the situation in German and Italy for example. Then let's not even start n how our bills here in the UK are going through the roof and will blow out of sight come the winter.

As for the America is seems they have realised they can't win this war so they've decided they'll pick another fight and this time with China over Taiwan, all just so they can remain in power.

 

[Technics 1210]

The Daily Mail (Daily Fail) used to support Hitler and Nazism! )

 

[bones]

The Russians are just murderous rapists.

And everyone who defends them is beneath contempt.

If they have been murdering and raping during this war, then those units need to be punished in the most severe way under their laws. However there is no evidence of murdering or rapes.

Can you tell us what you think of the Azov battalion who raped and murdered the people in Mariupol for years? Are you not beneath contempt for defending them?

 

[Junaids]

Orthodox Christians lay blame on the Jews for the death of Jesus, and the Zionists cannot stomach this fact.

What's more US Congress approves funding for Ukraine war, and who controls and represents the Congress in a majority? Yup, Zionists.

Zionists are profiteering from both sides on the Ukraine war, same way Zionists profited from both sides in WW2 by entering into an agreement with Nazis in WW2 - The Harvana Agreement.

History repeating itself, but Zionists have pulled out all the strings to ensure Zionists and Isreal are beyond critisim and as you know have made the questioning of Holocaust illegal in 14 nations.

God is definitely on Putin's side; the world has woken up, but the Amreekans and Europeans remain hypnotized by the Zionist propaganda.

Where do you get this anti-Semitic poison from?

On the one hand you call the Ukrainians "Nazis", but then you write all this anti-Semitic twaddle.

May I just remind you that:

1. Israeli Arabs have a life expectancy 10 years longer than any other Arab nation.
2. Israeli Arabs have a higher literacy rate than any other Arabs. Female Arab Israeli literacy is 88%, compared with 43% in Egypt.
3. Israeli Arabs have a higher median income than any other Arab nationality.
4. Israeli Arabs have the lowest infant mortality of any Arab nationality.
5. Israeli Arabs have the highest median house value of any Arab nationality.
6. Israel is the only country in the Middle East whose Arab citizens have democratic rights to vote.

I don't know why you swamp this thread with your anti-Semitic propaganda. Frankly, based on my points above, you should try being a Zionist!

 

[Technics 1210]

Where do you get this anti-Semitic poison from?

On the one hand you call the Ukrainians "Nazis", but then you write all this anti-Semitic twaddle.

May I just remind you that:

1. Israeli Arabs have a life expectancy 10 years longer than any other Arab nation.
2. Israeli Arabs have a higher literacy rate than any other Arabs. Female Arab Israeli literacy is 88%, compared with 43% in Egypt.
3. Israeli Arabs have a higher median income than any other Arab nationality.
4. Israeli Arabs have the lowest infant mortality of any Arab nationality.
5. Israeli Arabs have the highest median house value of any Arab nationality.
6. Israel is the only country in the Middle East whose Arab citizens have democratic rights to vote.

I don't know why you swamp this thread with your anti-Semitic propaganda. Frankly, based on my points above, you should try being a Zionist!

BORING and meaningless and irrelevant stats.

I suggest you read up on what Zionism is and their role in Western politics, but you cannot refute a word I say and all you have is the usual laughable cry of ‘anti-semitism’.

I will criticise right-wing Judaism as much as I want, in the same way users criticise right-wing Christianity [NEOCONs], Islam [Islamists], and Hinduism [Hindutva] - right wing Judaism [Zionism] is not free of criticism - you can cry anti-semitism all you want but you’re gonna need truck loads of aloe-vera coated Kleenex.

Now wake up from your western media hypnotism; Zionists are behind the Ukraine war, like every other war in the past 150 years involving the West.

 

[Manunited18]

Where do you get this anti-Semitic poison from?

On the one hand you call the Ukrainians "Nazis", but then you write all this anti-Semitic twaddle.

May I just remind you that:

1. Israeli Arabs have a life expectancy 10 years longer than any other Arab nation.
2. Israeli Arabs have a higher literacy rate than any other Arabs. Female Arab Israeli literacy is 88%, compared with 43% in Egypt.
3. Israeli Arabs have a higher median income than any other Arab nationality.
4. Israeli Arabs have the lowest infant mortality of any Arab nationality.
5. Israeli Arabs have the highest median house value of any Arab nationality.
6. Israel is the only country in the Middle East whose Arab citizens have democratic rights to vote.

I don't know why you swamp this thread with your anti-Semitic propaganda. Frankly, based on my points above, you should try being a Zionist!

It's blatantly obvious there's confusion on your part as theres a vast difference between the orthodox Jews in the middle East who have lived peacefully throughout history with their fellow Arabs, and theres the Zionists who are right wing extremists who are hell bent on the destruction of Palestine with the help of the West. The orthodox jews in israel and Palestine completely oppose the satanic ways of the Zionist extremists .

 

[Technics 1210]

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is a Zionist lobbying group that advocates pro-Israel policies to the legislative and executive branches of the United States. It is perhaps the most powerful lobby in the USA, after the religious lobby - which combined with right-wing Christians, forms the Judeo-Christian alliance.

This is the lobby that ultimately approves funding & weapons to Ukraine via the US House Of Representatives.

Watch the Israeli documentary film "The Kings of Capitol Hill" which depicts how AIPAC has influenced Amreekan foreign policy, and has moved towards the political extreme right wing.

Remember, the MSM in the West is also controlled by members of this lobby. The Banks are also controlled by members of this lobby.

Zionists have the funds, control the public message, and leverage their political power to fulfil Zionists goals - Ukraine war is just next in line.