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The RF Armed Forces liberated the settlement of Udy in the Kharkov region, according to the Russian Defense Ministry
 
⚡️Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine

* The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

* As a result of the Russian Armed Forces' offensive actions Udy in Kharkov Region has been completely liberated.

*High-precision strikes of the Russian Aerospace Forces against a temporary deployment point of 66th Mechanized Brigade near Djerzhinsk in Donetsk People's Republic have destroyed up to 40 nationalists and 9 pieces of military equipment.

*As a result of the Russian Aerospace Forces strikes against manpower and military equipment concentrations of 63rd Mechanized Brigade of AFU near Belaya Krinitsa and Belogorka, Kherson Region, 35 nationalists and 15 units of armoured vehicles and equipment have been destroyed.

* Concentrated strikes on positions of 53rd Mechanized Brigade of AFU near Sribnoye in Donetsk People's Republic have destroyed up to 200 nationalists and 15 pieces of military equipment.

* More than 200 servicemen of 56th Mechanized Infantry Brigade of AFU have refused to perform combat tasks near Opytnoye and Pervomaiskoye in Donetsk People's Republic and voluntarily abandoned their positions due to heavy losses. For example, the brigade's third battalion, which was operating near Mar'inka, had about 140 of its 580 men on its payroll.

* Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery strikes continue against military facilities in Ukraine.

* 1 radar detection and targeting station near Peresadovka in Nikolaev Region, 1 fuel depot near Slavyansk and 2 ammunition depots near Zvanovka in Donetsk People's Republic and Iskrovka in Kirovograd Region have been destroyed.

* In addition, 2 missile and artillery weapon depots of 58th Motorized Infantry Brigade in Artemovsk, Donetsk People's Republic, and 63rd Mechanized Brigade near Bereznevatoye, Nikolaev Region, have been destroyed.

* 5 command posts have been hit, including those of 43rd Airborne Brigade in Velikaya Novoselka, artillery group of 79th Airborne Assault Brigade near Chasov Yar in Donetsk People's Republic, headquarters of 247th Battalion of 127th Territorial Defence Brigade in Kharkov, 4 temporary deployment points of 113th Territorial Defence Brigade units near Zolochev in Kharkov Region, and 151 areas of manpower, weapons and military equipment concentration.

* In the course of counter-battery warfare, 1 platoon of Grad MLRS near Artemovsk, 1 artillery platoon of Giatsint-B guns, and 7 platoons of D-30 howitzers have been suppresed at the nationalist firing positions in Zvanovka, Kuz'minovka, Seversk, Pereyezdnoye, Vesyoloye and Vyemka in Donetsk People's Republic.

* Russian air defence means have shot down 2 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Lisichansk in Luhansk People's Republic, and Glubokoye in Kharkov Region.

* 1 Tochka-U ballistic missile over Lisichansk in Lugansk People's Republic and 15 shells of MLRS near Lisichansk in Lugansk People's Republic, Antonovka and Novaya Kakhovka in Kherson region have been intercepted.

**In total, 267 Ukrainian airplanes and 148 helicopters, 1,738 unmanned aerial vehicles, 365 anti-aircraft missile systems, 4,303 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 798 multiple launch rocket systems, 3,298 field artillery and mortars, as well as 4,888 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.
 
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So have I got this right?

The Ukrainians have used HIMARS to destroy all 4 major bridges in and out of Kherson. The Russians are encircled, and before the last bridge was blown up they evacuated their leaders across the final bridge.
 
So have I got this right?

The Ukrainians have used HIMARS to destroy all 4 major bridges in and out of Kherson. The Russians are encircled, and before the last bridge was blown up they evacuated their leaders across the final bridge.

The bridges are not destroyed. I've just seen so.e footage. They are repairable but I think the Russians won't repair the surface because they will get hit again. Bridges are structurally very very strong. They are built to withstand forces like earthquakes and Tsunamis.

Regarding the kherson counter offensive, we have been hearing about it since April. It's not happening. Even western MSM is accepting it's unlikely see the links I posted in my previous posts.

As for the himars, 16 were sent to Ukraine and at least 6 have been destroyed. The Americans usually have 8-10 himars in a single battery and they are supported by air and multiple ground units. They also have logistics for the maintenance and resupply. Right now the Ukrainians have to send the himars and m177 and lots of European equipment to Poland for repairs and maintenance because the Ukrainians don't have the tools or skills. Therefore it's difficult for them to hide from satellite surveillance.
 
The main reasons why the kherson offensive is unlikely to happen is because of the terrain. It's flat and open land. It also means that the Russians are going to have difficulty moving forward here.
 
General krivinos of the Ukrainian armed forces on a YouTube interview said that the supply is slowing from the west. In some cases countries are reaching into their reserves.

According to him the Russians went into 24-7 military production and because they are using only Russian /Soviet equipment this simplifies things for them.

As I said many times before. Western support for Ukraine is way exaggerated no one bothers to discuss logistics or supply.
 
The Donbas militias report that the Ukrainian troops have retreated from Soledar. The Russians of course will perform a sweep which could take a few days. After that they'll probably have to head south towards Bakhmut and start the encirclement. My guess is Bakhmut will fall in the next 2-3 weeks.

According to LiveUAmaps, which is a very pro Ukranian source, Zelensky has fired the head of security services in Kyiv and Lviv. Now this might be because of the fact so many western supplied weapons are going missing - who knows.
 
The bridges are not destroyed. I've just seen so.e footage. They are repairable but I think the Russians won't repair the surface because they will get hit again. Bridges are structurally very very strong. They are built to withstand forces like earthquakes and Tsunamis.

Regarding the kherson counter offensive, we have been hearing about it since April. It's not happening. Even western MSM is accepting it's unlikely see the links I posted in my previous posts.

As for the himars, 16 were sent to Ukraine and at least 6 have been destroyed. The Americans usually have 8-10 himars in a single battery and they are supported by air and multiple ground units. They also have logistics for the maintenance and resupply. Right now the Ukrainians have to send the himars and m177 and lots of European equipment to Poland for repairs and maintenance because the Ukrainians don't have the tools or skills. Therefore it's difficult for them to hide from satellite surveillance.

ha ha prove that 6 have been destroyed.... go for it... post the pictures
 
So have I got this right?

The Ukrainians have used HIMARS to destroy all 4 major bridges in and out of Kherson. The Russians are encircled, and before the last bridge was blown up they evacuated their leaders across the final bridge.

Yes you have got that right
 
Yes you have got that right

lol. They have been blindly shooting these, most arent even trained to use them. The bridge is intact.

I told you Ukrainians havent won any sort of real battle and you replied with two towns, both havent seen a full out battle to capture them.


Of course like Nato you will be happy for the last Ukranian to die fighting Putin. Even your friends have stated only way is for Putin to die. lol. This is an ignorant point btw, as Putin has so much support even if he were to die , others would follow the same policies as him.

I ask you again, which you run away from. Why havent the Brits sent in Dads army to beat this weak Russian country, as you think it is?
 
ha ha prove that 6 have been destroyed.... go for it... post the pictures

The evidence will come in good time. Remember when people laughed when the Russians said that they had destroyed m177 hoeitzers and now we are seeing the pictures. Well we will see destroyed himars up close soon enough.
 
The main reasons why the kherson offensive is unlikely to happen is because of the terrain. It's flat and open land. It also means that the Russians are going to have difficulty moving forward here.

Correct but dont forget the Russians feel now there is no rush. The longer this plays out, the worse for Europe. In fact this military operation has changed Russia forever, its prospering better than ever and is now seen as a world superpower.

If Russia breaks the western economy , it will break western hegemony too. Putin will be up there with the likes of Napoleon.
 
It took the West 3 months to concede Western sanctions were not working but early data was showing the abject failure of sanctions a few weeks after the sanctions were imposed.

Better than late than never I guess!
 
The evidence will come in good time. Remember when people laughed when the Russians said that they had destroyed m177 hoeitzers and now we are seeing the pictures. Well we will see destroyed himars up close soon enough.

So you can't provide it? Thought not. Crimea hit AGAIN today, 2 more ammo stores gone Capput. 2 x Ammo dumps gone in Kherson as well, these hit by the Ukranian air force. They STILL haven't destroyed that! Feels like something is building towards the 24th August, either way (Ukraine independance day)

Rmours that Putins inner circle are in negotiations with the west against Putins wishes.
 
I deplore this thread's descent into people arguing like this is a spectator sport. Come on chaps - people are dying, millions of refugees are fleeing, women are being raped. This is horrible.
 
So you can't provide it? Thought not. Crimea hit AGAIN today, 2 more ammo stores gone Capput. 2 x Ammo dumps gone in Kherson as well, these hit by the Ukranian air force. They STILL haven't destroyed that! Feels like something is building towards the 24th August, either way (Ukraine independance day)

Rmours that Putins inner circle are in negotiations with the west against Putins wishes.

The Russians are not like the Ukranians, the majority of their units don't have phones so the footage we see is mostly from Ukranians or the Russian MoD when they release it. They didn't release footage of of the capture of so many Ukranian PoWs, does it mean they weren't captured? Of course it doesn't because several weeks later we see them in captivity.

I found it very interesting how for months the sheep have kept quiet as the Russians destroys ammunition and weapon depos/factories all over Ukraine, but the moment the Ukranians hit them in return, these are gaming changing incidents.

The Ukranians are bound to land some blows, they of course have many many soldiers on the frontline and have some artillery. The question is can they land enough blows to mount any counter offensives? The answer so far is a decisive no.

Please provide a source for these rumours - because there is no way Russia are going to negotiate whilst they are winning and winning so easily.
 
women are being raped. This is horrible.

Perhaps from the Ukranian nationalist forces but not the Russians or Ukranian main army. Please provide verified information before making such claims.

Yes this is horrible - but that's what happens when you follow your western friends blindly.
 
Air base, Amo dumps and rail lines all hit in Crimea today by Ukranian special Ops, Must have help in Crimea to get there.

That 000000.1% of Crimeans who rejected Russia in the Referendum are causing some damage now...
 
Day-ahead prices in Germany set a new record on Tuesday

Power prices across the EU jumped to a fresh record high on Tuesday, as natural gas costs climbed further on falling supply from Russia, data from the European Energy Exchange AG shows.

Benchmark day-ahead prices in Germany advanced to €490.79 ($497) per megawatt-hour, from June’s average of €218.03, according to market data provider Nord Pool.

The current prices are almost six times higher than in August 2021.

The EU’s energy market is rattled by fears over whether power plants will be able to provide enough electricity this winter amid the tightening gas supply.

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This reminds me of the final scene in Superman 2. Russia in the chamber, while NATO on the outside.

Western sanctions have had a reverse effect! Instead of hurting Russia, Europe is feeling the pain!

:)))
 
Perhaps from the Ukranian nationalist forces but not the Russians or Ukranian main army. Please provide verified information before making such claims.

Yes this is horrible - but that's what happens when you follow your western friends blindly.

You can’t blame the Ukrainians for wanting prosperity as part of EU and security as part of NATO. Perhaps they should have waited ten years for Putin to die, though he did immanentise their lean west by invading Crimea in 2014.

Rape happens in war because rapists know they can get away with it.
 
Ukraine is neither member of the EU nor NATO, what prosperity?

Why do NATO apologists insist on lying? No one is falling for the propaganda other than NATO and EU fanatics.
 
To add, Ukraine's applications to NATO and EU prior to the war, were rejected.

This is what the EU/NATO think of Ukraine, even after 2014.
 
You can’t blame the Ukrainians for wanting prosperity as part of EU and security as part of NATO. Perhaps they should have waited ten years for Putin to die, though he did immanentise their lean west by invading Crimea in 2014.

Rape happens in war because rapists know they can get away with it.

Just saying Rape happens in war doesn't mean it's true. Who is doing the raping and where is your evidence?

As for the Ukranians wanting prosperity, right now the Russians are living with more prosperity than any European nation. People just cannot understand, Russia has all the key resources. Bills are doubling and tripling in Europe, they aren't in Russia.
 
Just saying Rape happens in war doesn't mean it's true. Who is doing the raping and where is your evidence?

As for the Ukranians wanting prosperity, right now the Russians are living with more prosperity than any European nation. People just cannot understand, Russia has all the key resources. Bills are doubling and tripling in Europe, they aren't in Russia.

Er what?.... the average salary in Russia is about £12k.. and roughly 60% of the population don't have an indoor toilet!

Don't confuse Moscow and St Petersburg with the rest of Russia
 
Er what?.... the average salary in Russia is about £12k.. and roughly 60% of the population don't have an indoor toilet!

Don't confuse Moscow and St Petersburg with the rest of Russia

Right now the Russians don't have to worry about food, water, fuel or energy. Basically the essentials of everyday life. Can you say the same about the average Italian or German right now? Can you say honestly people in the UK won't be worry about this coming winter especially if it's cold?
 
Right now the Russians don't have to worry about food, water, fuel or energy. Basically the essentials of everyday life. Can you say the same about the average Italian or German right now? Can you say honestly people in the UK won't be worry about this coming winter especially if it's cold?

Of course i can. Living standards in the EU are light years ahead of Russia. Stop spreading absolute rubbish. People will not starve in the EU this winter.

People will not freeze either BTW, forget all the doom rubbish in the press. Stop painting this paradise that isn't Russia.
 
Of course i can. Living standards in the EU are light years ahead of Russia. Stop spreading absolute rubbish. People will not starve in the EU this winter.

People will not freeze either BTW, forget all the doom rubbish in the press
. Stop painting this paradise that isn't Russia.

The UK government has to take action to prevent another fuel price hike or some British people really will die of cold this winter. Already people are taking only fresh food from food banks because they cannot afford to turn the gas or electricity on to cook a meal. I think power cuts are coming this winter.

I would renationalise electricity and gas.

The average German obviously does enjoy a much higher standard of living than the average Russian and Italy is a warm place so nobody there will freeze.
 
Just saying Rape happens in war doesn't mean it's true. Who is doing the raping and where is your evidence?

Plenty of reports, though by "evidence" I assume you mean war crimes cases. None of these so far. How many Red Army rapists were brought to trial in 1945? None. And yet a million Berliner women claimed to have been raped.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/15/rape-weapon-ukraine-war-crime-sexual-violence

As for the Ukranians wanting prosperity, right now the Russians are living with more prosperity than any European nation. People just cannot understand, Russia has all the key resources. Bills are doubling and tripling in Europe, they aren't in Russia.

Then that's the price we pay for freedom in Ukraine. I am proud to bear it. Easier for me than going to fight for them. Some things are more important than money.
 
Living standards in the West have been in steady decline, debt is the biggest killer, now inflation, and just this morning, wages have declined on average by 3%, food inflation on the up, and of course, energy rationing around the corner - sounds very 3rd world to me.

Once the Winter impact kicks in, liberals will be blaming the incumbent government, and as for EU, its over.

But no, NATO apologists do not value the basics of human survival, instead their idea of sucess is measured by number of iPhones, Ipads, laptops, BigMacs, Bullets, Bombs, and Missiles.
 
Living standards in the West have been in steady decline, debt is the biggest killer, now inflation, and just this morning, wages have declined on average by 3%, food inflation on the up, and of course, energy rationing around the corner - sounds very 3rd world to me.

Once the Winter impact kicks in, liberals will be blaming the incumbent government, and as for EU, its over.

But no, NATO apologists do not value the basics of human survival, instead their idea of sucess is measured by number of iPhones, Ipads, laptops, BigMacs, Bullets, Bombs, and Missiles.

Who is NATO bombing and firing missiles at?
 
Have you guys heard the latest genius statement from the Comedian?

To stop Russia from striking the nuclear plant that they have controlled since March, the Ukrainians will strike that very same nuclear plant.

Couldn't make it up.
 
Certainly not at Russia :)))

Nato is a wing of the US empire. US is weekly bombing kids, women, animals in various parts of the world. Try reading it will help.

Are you wanting a World Nuclear war?

Are Russia not actively bombing the same in various parts of the world? LAst time I checked Russia were involved in wars in 3 continents
 
The war has become a stalemate and war of attrition.

Western Long range weapons have begun to cause damage and put the russians on the backfoot those bases and ammunition dumps being hit have basically stalled their advances
 
Zelensky suprised to hear that Putin wants peace talks...

Wonder why Putin wants those?

Oh.... Crimea hit again tonight
 
There is a common theme in this thread. NATO apologists do not provide any links backing their claims, not an iota. This is the problem when regurgitating ZMSM sound bites.

I wonder why. Hmmmm.
 
This has been a different week.

We have seen the Ukrainians destroy every major bridge in and out of occupied Kherson, and the Russian leadership scuttling out of Kherson just before the last bridge was blown up.

We have seen Crimea hit for the second successive week, leading to a mass exodus of Russian tourists from Crimea before the Ukrainians blow up the bridge from Crimea to Russia.

We have seen Ukraine for the first time start to brazenly attack targets in Russia Proper, such as the transmitting tower in Belgorod, 40 km from the Ukraine border.

Still Russia keeps going with their World War 1 tactics in Donbas, destroying the property and infrastructure of the people they claim to be liberating.

I'm in no hurry at all for this to end. Every week that passes sees the Russians lose another 1-2% of their remaining conventional weapons and troops.
 
This has been a different week.

We have seen the Ukrainians destroy every major bridge in and out of occupied Kherson, and the Russian leadership scuttling out of Kherson just before the last bridge was blown up.

We have seen Crimea hit for the second successive week, leading to a mass exodus of Russian tourists from Crimea before the Ukrainians blow up the bridge from Crimea to Russia.

We have seen Ukraine for the first time start to brazenly attack targets in Russia Proper, such as the transmitting tower in Belgorod, 40 km from the Ukraine border.

Still Russia keeps going with their World War 1 tactics in Donbas, destroying the property and infrastructure of the people they claim to be liberating.

I'm in no hurry at all for this to end. Every week that passes sees the Russians lose another 1-2% of their remaining conventional weapons and troops.

Total fantasy. Watch the video I pasted in my post above.

The Ukrainians haven't been able to launch a BTG level counter offensive since 2015. According to military leaders who are not paid sills, the Ukrainians don't have the ability to. We are 6 months in the war, give us a single example of a single BTG level counter offensive.

You are right it does feel different now, the west and their proxy are getting more and more desperate. Also did you see Putin and Shoigu in their recent security meeting? Compare that to Joe Biden and Zelensky.
 
Total fantasy. Watch the video I pasted in my post above.

The Ukrainians haven't been able to launch a BTG level counter offensive since 2015. According to military leaders who are not paid sills, the Ukrainians don't have the ability to. We are 6 months in the war, give us a single example of a single BTG level counter offensive.

You are right it does feel different now, the west and their proxy are getting more and more desperate. Also did you see Putin and Shoigu in their recent security meeting? Compare that to Joe Biden and Zelensky.

You are conflating two separate issues.

The first is Ukraine’s ability to regain control over its occupied sovereign territory, which is what you are discussing.

The second is the progressive degradation of Russia’s conventional military power with every week that this war drags on. Already we are at a point where Russia could no longer concurrently maintain its military occupation of parts of Georgia and Moldova at the same time as fighting against Ukraine.

Six months ago, Russia would have been capable of holding its own if it attacked a country like Finland or Sweden. Now they would be wiped out in an afternoon by either of those countries, but what’s more they would find themselves at war with NATO!
 
For the record, Finland has 55 F/A18C Hornets with 64 F35’s on order.

Sweden has 80 active Gripen fighters with another 20 to be reactivated.

Not only are both countries doubling their defence budget in response to Russian aggression against Ukraine, but also an attack against either in the future will lead to a NATO military response.

Incidentally, for all Russia’s “deNazification” lies and propaganda, it was sad to see yesterday that 15% of Russian Jews have emigrated in the six months since their country started this war.

It’s a rare example of a country - in this case Russia - performing ethnic cleansing against itself!
 
It’s an unusual hat-trick for Russia:

1. Do It Yourself ethnic cleansing.
2. Making your enemies increase their defence budgets, and join NATO.
3. Disarming yourself by a futile deadlocked war.
 
Incidentally, for all Russia’s “deNazification” lies and propaganda, it was sad to see yesterday that 15% of Russian Jews have emigrated in the six months since their country started this war.

It’s a rare example of a country - in this case Russia - performing ethnic cleansing against itself!

Sad, though unsurprising. There have been many progroms in Russia, such as those after the publication of the faked Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Since CCCP fell, there was a major attempt to build the Jewish community in Moscow, but 20,000 of the 165,000 there have fled since the war began.

Chief Rabbi Goldschmidt has already bailed out and moved to Israel:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62564122.amp
 
"Politico" is reporting that for the first time, last week the US administration agreed to Ukraine using US-supplied weapons to strike Crimea, explicitly including bridges.

Which means that whereas previously Ukraine could not risk taking out the Kursk bridge from Russia to Crimea, now they can do it at the moment of their choosing.

That's bad news for Russia. Because it means that when Ukraine judges it to be the optimal moment, they can take out the Kursk bridge and the two northern bridges out of Crimea, and basically Russia will have placed themselves under siege in Crimea.
 
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Provide a source - otherwise it's more propaganda from you. Here is a good summary of what's actually happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJdNXR4zBEI

Ah... The col Macgregor, the fox news expert who championed the 2014 invasion and told Putin then to invade the donbass

Don't ever critize people for believing in reputable new agencies whilst you get your news from him.

May as well link me up to putin
 
Ah... The col Macgregor, the fox news expert who championed the 2014 invasion and told Putin then to invade the donbass

Don't ever critize people for believing in reputable new agencies whilst you get your news from him.

May as well link me up to putin

As predicted, rather than focus on the message, focus on the message. This guy worked in the defence department under Trump, he's certainly a lot more credible than the idiots who keep telling us the Kherson counter-offensive is imminent.

This Kherson offensive was first mentioned in March, it's now August, where is it?
 
You are conflating two separate issues.

The first is Ukraine’s ability to regain control over its occupied sovereign territory, which is what you are discussing.

The second is the progressive degradation of Russia’s conventional military power with every week that this war drags on. Already we are at a point where Russia could no longer concurrently maintain its military occupation of parts of Georgia and Moldova at the same time as fighting against Ukraine.

Six months ago, Russia would have been capable of holding its own if it attacked a country like Finland or Sweden. Now they would be wiped out in an afternoon by either of those countries, but what’s more they would find themselves at war with NATO!

It's almost likely going around in circles. Did you bother to read the article by the the British organisation RUSI that I posted a few weeks ago? Also the one by the Washington Post where they explain how the Russians are operating. If you did you'd have seen that there is no degradation of the Russian military power.

1. The Russian MIC (military industrial complex) entered large scale production quite some time ago in preparation for this conflict. How else do you think they continue to use 50-60k shells every single day after 6 months?
2. The west are depleting their stocks, they don't have much to send over anymore without compromising their own combat capability. The west haven't entered in mass production like the Russians - this is details in that article I presented by the British RUSI.
3. The Russians are not only holding the territory captured they are are gaining more and more albeit slowly.
4. There is no stalemate. The Russians are in no hurry, this is obvious because of point 1 and also they want to minimise their own losses. They simply bombard the Ukranians with their overwhelming advantage in artillery and when the defences have crumbled they will go in and sweep the area slowly because the Ukranians have mined all these areas.
 
As predicted, rather than focus on the message, focus on the message. This guy worked in the defence department under Trump, he's certainly a lot more credible than the idiots who keep telling us the Kherson counter-offensive is imminent.

This Kherson offensive was first mentioned in March, it's now August, where is it?

About 5 miles from the centre... if you bothered to look.
 
Anyone seen the video of the Russians storing ammo and military gear at the Nuclear plant? totally idiotic.

Also told Russians not to go to work today there, and moving people away from the site.
They also rejected a UN proposal to secure it yesterday..
 
Anyone seen the video of the Russians storing ammo and military gear at the Nuclear plant? totally idiotic.

Also told Russians not to go to work today there, and moving people away from the site.
They also rejected a UN proposal to secure it yesterday..

Good. Apparently the Russians were kind enough to let the plant supply northern and western Ukraine for months. Now they are switching to their own captured territories only - you can see why Zelensky and other Ukranian ministers are fuming.
 
More and more Russian outlets stating that the west are planning to launch some big missile/s on the power plant. That is why the Russians are clearning the plant of all non-critical workers.

I'm not sure what they're trying to achieve by hitting a nuclear site. You'd have thought if it was so important to them, they would have protected it much better than they did. Reember this plan has been in Russian control since March.
 
More and more Russian outlets stating that the west are planning to launch some big missile/s on the power plant. That is why the Russians are clearning the plant of all non-critical workers.

I'm not sure what they're trying to achieve by hitting a nuclear site. You'd have thought if it was so important to them, they would have protected it much better than they did. Reember this plan has been in Russian control since March.

YOU ARE DELUDED....

Russian state TV has been showing where the fall out would go... i'll let you know... not Russia.

Why won't Russia let the UN in?
 
Why would russians hit the plant when they are inside and it is on the other bank of the river under russian control.

The only people shelling the plant are the ukranians from the other bank.

Reason russia is going to connect the plant to crimea and taken it off the ukranian grid.

So the west has given the green light for Ukraine to hit the plant and crimea and do a nuclear blackmail.

Russian won't give up the plant hence why its evacuating the workers

Why would russia want to destroy such a large nuclear plant that can provide large amounts of energy .
 
Why would russians hit the plant when they are inside and it is on the other bank of the river under russian control.

The only people shelling the plant are the ukranians from the other bank.

Reason russia is going to connect the plant to crimea and taken it off the ukranian grid.

So the west has given the green light for Ukraine to hit the plant and crimea and do a nuclear blackmail.


Russian won't give up the plant hence why its evacuating the workers

Why would russia want to destroy such a large nuclear plant that can provide large amounts of energy .

Makes no sense. Why would "the West" risk eco-catastrophe on their soil? They wouldn't. No more Chernobyls.
 
Reason russia is going to connect the plant to crimea and taken it off the ukranian grid.

So the west has given the green light for Ukraine to hit the plant and crimea and do a nuclear blackmail .

Let’s by brutally honest here.

This week was the first time - after 8 long years - that the Russian Army realised that they are going to lose Crimea.

It’s obvious that Putin is a Dead Man Walking once he is humiliated in front of his own brainwashed population by the loss of Crimea.

The higher levels of Russian Army clearly have not told Putin yet that Crimea cannot be held. And this is just a distraction while they try to put together some kind of plan.
 
Yesterday was the 1st day of the war that Russia made no gains.

The tide is turning... and wait for the lend to lease scheme from the US to kick in (it starts 1st September)
 
Let’s by brutally honest here.

This week was the first time - after 8 long years - that the Russian Army realised that they are going to lose Crimea.

It’s obvious that Putin is a Dead Man Walking once he is humiliated in front of his own brainwashed population by the loss of Crimea.

The higher levels of Russian Army clearly have not told Putin yet that Crimea cannot be held. And this is just a distraction while they try to put together some kind of plan.

The level of delusion here. The Ukranians haven't been able to launch any counter offensive since 2015 and back then the Russians didn't deploy the type of numbers they have now.

If the Ukranians have spent 6 months trying to and uncussefully launch an attack on Kherson, how in the name of mickey mouse will they ever get as far as crimea?

Those attacks in Crimea have been proven to be sabotage. Which of course shows a lapse or deficiency in Russian intel there but does not change the outcome of the war one iota.

The Russians have been launching missiles to Lviv, Kyiv and other big western ukranian cities, does that mean they're about to take control of it? You haven't a clue. But please carry on listening to BBC and CNN.
 
The level of delusion here. The Ukranians haven't been able to launch any counter offensive since 2015 and back then the Russians didn't deploy the type of numbers they have now.

If the Ukranians have spent 6 months trying to and uncussefully launch an attack on Kherson, how in the name of mickey mouse will they ever get as far as crimea?

Those attacks in Crimea have been proven to be sabotage. Which of course shows a lapse or deficiency in Russian intel there but does not change the outcome of the war one iota.

The Russians have been launching missiles to Lviv, Kyiv and other big western ukranian cities, does that mean they're about to take control of it? You haven't a clue. But please carry on listening to BBC and CNN.

ha ha. First it was 'stray cigarette'.. now 'sabotage'.... all 'proven' from Russia outlets.
 
The Ukranians haven't been able to launch any counter offensive since 2015 and back then the Russians didn't deploy the type of numbers they have now.

If the Ukranians have spent 6 months trying to and uncussefully launch an attack on Kherson, how in the name of mickey mouse will they ever get as far as crimea?

Bucha?

The Ukrainians basically drove Russia back from the gates of Kyiv.

The Ukrainians have had most of the military victories so far.
 
Bucha?

The Ukrainians basically drove Russia back from the gates of Kyiv.

The Ukrainians have had most of the military victories so far.

The Ukranians did not drive Russians back from anywhere. The Russians withdrew, they withdrew from several sides once they had established supply and logistic lines in the south.

None of you seem to understand the Russians used 200k forces for this operation that is one third of what they're up again. In a straight shoot out you lose always. But if you can split the troops and shape the battlefield to use your strenths you have a chance.

But you guys are completely clueless, you have falled for the western propaganda so much that you spit out nonsense not worthy of response anymore.

Ask yourself this simple question. If the Ukranians are winning so much, why are they still pleading for weapons and why go through the 8th wave of mobilisation? Russia haven't issued any mobilisation orders even once and throughout July the Russian main army were resting while the militias and mercenaries were fighting.
 
ha ha. First it was 'stray cigarette'.. now 'sabotage'.... all 'proven' from Russia outlets.

Who said cigarette? Please provide a source. The Russians did not say anything initially, after investigations they confirmed it was sabotage using homemade bombs on off the shelf drones. It's like a pin ***** in the grand scheme of things.
 
Kerch Bridge closed to the public on Thursday night to enable the families of Russian officials to be evacuated from Crimea.

They know the noose is tightening around Crimea.
 
Kerch Bridge closed to the public on Thursday night to enable the families of Russian officials to be evacuated from Crimea.

They know the noose is tightening around Crimea.

Can you explain to the rest of us, how exactly the Ukranians are going to capture/surround/conquer Crimea? They haven't been able to even start the counter offensive in Kherson.

Or should we expect some paratrooper flying in? Or perhaps they will perform an amphibious assault?

Please explain.
 
Let’s by brutally honest here.

This week was the first time - after 8 long years - that the Russian Army realised that they are going to lose Crimea.

It’s obvious that Putin is a Dead Man Walking once he is humiliated in front of his own brainwashed population by the loss of Crimea.

The higher levels of Russian Army clearly have not told Putin yet that Crimea cannot be held. And this is just a distraction while they try to put together some kind of plan.

I don’t think that can happen.

The best that Ukraine can manage is to hold the line, not fall back further.

I’d like to think they could retake Kherson, cross the Dnipro river, while partisans continue to blow railways and substations up in the occupied territory.
 
They can resupply from the sea.

Nah, they would be in huge trouble if the bridge goes. Ukraine has shown it can take out Russian ships, I'm not even sure the black sea fleet has left Sevastapol since the Moskva went down.

The bridge will get blown.
 
I don’t think that can happen.

The best that Ukraine can manage is to hold the line, not fall back further.

I’d like to think they could retake Kherson, cross the Dnipro river, while partisans continue to blow railways and substations up in the occupied territory.

Unless Russia fully mobilises... they will be hopelessly outgunned and out numbered soon.
 
NEW: Western intelligence official just told reporters attack on Saky airfield in Crimea by Ukraine 'put more than half of Russia's Black Sea Fleet naval aviation combat jets out of use. The Russian system is busy seeking to allocate blame for the debacle.'

Ouch
 
Who is the western intelligence official? If he is so confident in his claim, why not put his name again the claim?
 
The number of petitions for insolvency has grown for a fourth consecutive quarter

Bankruptcy declarations in the EU increased by 2.2% in the April-June period of 2022, the latest data from the European statistics agency Eurostat shows.

“In the second quarter of 2022, the seasonally adjusted number of declarations of bankruptcies increased by 2.2% in the EU and by 2.5% in the euro area, compared with the first quarter of 2022,” the agency said in a report published on Wednesday.

The agency does not give the exact number of declarations, only the percentage. According to Eurostat, however, the number of bankruptcy filings has grown for a fourth quarter in a row.

Latvia observed the largest growth during the reporting period, with the number of companies filing for bankruptcy up by 74.4%. It was followed by Belgium, which saw a 14.7% increase, and Denmark (11.9%).

During this period, companies filed for bankruptcy in nearly all sectors of the EU economy, Eurostat says. Compared with the period before the Covid-19 pandemic, the number of declarations increased particularly in transportation, storage and accommodation, as well as food services.

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:))) Western sanctions kicking in!
 
I have argued with bones in this thread myself many times, who's posts I consider very biased sometimes, however Junaid absolutely takes the cake.

Sounds like petulant child instead of a grown up with no posts grounded in reality. If it was upto him our planet would be in the middle of a nuclear winter right now. The idiotic genocide he is proposing in the previous pages where he'd advocate the West striking Russia even if it would lead to war says more about him than the people he's arguing with.

Another to be blocked
 
Nah, they would be in huge trouble if the bridge goes. Ukraine has shown it can take out Russian ships, I'm not even sure the black sea fleet has left Sevastapol since the Moskva went down.

The bridge will get blown.

This is a point, they lost their Black Sea flagship Moskva but Ukraine can’t hit shipping on the East side of Crimea.
 
Are you wanting a World Nuclear war?

Are Russia not actively bombing the same in various parts of the world? LAst time I checked Russia were involved in wars in 3 continents

What a silly question aimed at me.

I want your family Mr Leigh and the families of other Brits on here to live in a safe , secure and prosperous future.

Its blind supporters of Nato who are the ones wishing for a nuclear war.

You cannot defeat Russia, its a huge nation with huge natural resources, large army, the most advanced missiles in the world and allied with the likes of China.

Any sane people would make peace with such a power, not try to destroy in cowardly fashion relying on the blood of Ukrainians.
 
This has been a different week.

We have seen the Ukrainians destroy every major bridge in and out of occupied Kherson, and the Russian leadership scuttling out of Kherson just before the last bridge was blown up.

We have seen Crimea hit for the second successive week, leading to a mass exodus of Russian tourists from Crimea before the Ukrainians blow up the bridge from Crimea to Russia.

We have seen Ukraine for the first time start to brazenly attack targets in Russia Proper, such as the transmitting tower in Belgorod, 40 km from the Ukraine border.

Still Russia keeps going with their World War 1 tactics in Donbas, destroying the property and infrastructure of the people they claim to be liberating.

I'm in no hurry at all for this to end. Every week that passes sees the Russians lose another 1-2% of their remaining conventional weapons and troops.


You are enjoying people dying esp Ukrainians in large numbers? You want Ukrainians to fight until the last blood drop because you're in no hurry?

What is very apt is your attitude is the attitude of the Americans, some Europeans, happy for others to die because you dont like Russia.

If you really feel this way, you should jump to the call of Zelinskly to help in fighting. When are you off?
 
When NATO was bullying weaker nations in the ME, the MSM and its disciples were having parties every day and sleeping like children.

Now NATO is facing Russia, the party goers have become jaded and are bricking it, hence they flock in their droves with propaganda cos it helps them sleep better at night.

NATO and its apologists are sweating bricks, they want war, just not nuclear war. Pathetic weaklings.
 
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