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The demographics of East Asia only became “white” when Stalin murdered 50,000 ethnic Chinese in Millionka in Vladivostok.

Biden has had a masterly war so far, but another opportunity is opening up now.

China is starting to see that Russia is not a powerful ally but rather a gangster state which is a burden dragging China down.

Biden needs to quietly speak with his Chinese counterpart and point out that all the other Russian colonies have returned to Chinese rule (eg Port Arthur) and that maybe he would rather get back Vladivostok next rather than Taiwan.

If Biden plays this well, he can effectively use the restoration of China’s lands which Russia currently occupies as a means to build up a US-China engagement based upon not having conflicting ambitions.

Don’t ever forget - Vladivostok is actually the Chinese city of Haisenwai.

China will only tolerate Russia for as long as it gains from that relationship - just like Hitler did in 1939-41.

But just as Hitler wanted to occupy the western USSR for lebensraum, China wants its land that remains occupied by Russia back. And as soon as the pros outweigh the cons, China will take it back.

Same way US became white majority by getting rid of the Native Americans. This has been done all over the world. Russia like US has changed the demographics in those areas, so will a Russian majority region in the east really want to leave Russia? I dont think so. If you think the fact Russia conquered land and they replaced the natives to become a majority is colonize, then the entire US is a colony.

Maybe the republics like Chechnya would want to leave, however they are receiving subsidize from Russia so you cant call it a colony. Its more like the status US gives Guam or Puerto Rico.

And since you are proposing we trade land and fixing alleged wrongs, will China give up Tibet, and East Turkestan? China also some Mongolian land, and Korean land as well. For some reason I don't think they will be giving any of this land up.
 
American officials admitted to CNN on Friday that US-led sanctions haven’t crashed Russia’s economy. Despite Russia’s record energy revenue and the strength of its currency, the officials insist that the effects of the sanctions are yet to be felt.

The US and its NATO and EU allies responded to Russia’s military operation in Ukraine by applying unprecedented economic sanctions to its economy. Russia became the world’s most sanctioned country within two weeks of the offensive, yet after successive rounds of penalties, energy embargos and excommunication from the SWIFT banking system, Moscow is reaping record profits from its fossil fuel exports, the ruble is as strong against the dollar as it was in 2019, and Russia’s inflation rate has fallen.
 
Russia became the world’s most sanctioned country within two weeks of the offensive, yet after successive rounds of penalties, energy embargos and excommunication from the SWIFT banking system, Moscow is reaping record profits from its fossil fuel exports, the ruble is as strong against the dollar as it was in 2019, and Russia’s inflation rate has fallen.

As we expected - we knew that the Russians had commodities which matter and we're too big to collapse but others, let's not mention names, were gullible enough and still are to think that they would work.
 
As we expected - we knew that the Russians had commodities which matter and we're too big to collapse but others, let's not mention names, were gullible enough and still are to think that they would work.
Hardly.

It’s only a fortnight since Putin last pressured for the sanctions to be lifted. And he has spent much of the last fortnight since then seeking a negotiated settlement.

We know that the sanctions are hurting him. The fact that he is now buying weapons from Iran, North Korea and Tajikistan shows that he can no longer make them in Russia.

We also know that his strategy in Modova, Georgia and Azerbaijan has been to try to “freeze” conflict so that he can retain troops in other countries.

The problem is that his strategies are copied directly from Hitler, and we in the west know what he is trying to do.

Russia has been thrown back out of much of the land that it took over in 2022.

But they have lost at least 50,000 of their most highly trainee soldiers and most of their modern equipment - and he has no way of replacing that equipment because of sanctions.

The sanctions are there to break his capacity to wage war in other countries. And they are working beautifully. Now he is getting his backside handed to him by little Ukraine, and even Azerbaijan is no longer respectful of Russian “peacekeepers” because we have reached a point where everybody knows that the Russian armed forces - which would commit national suicide if they ever used their rusty nukes - are no longer capable of fighting against even Finland or Poland, let alone all of NATO.

Putin has created a situation in which Russia no longer is in the top ten armed forces of Europe!
 
American officials admitted to CNN on Friday that US-led sanctions haven’t crashed Russia’s economy. Despite Russia’s record energy revenue and the strength of its currency, the officials insist that the effects of the sanctions are yet to be felt.

The US and its NATO and EU allies responded to Russia’s military operation in Ukraine by applying unprecedented economic sanctions to its economy. Russia became the world’s most sanctioned country within two weeks of the offensive, yet after successive rounds of penalties, energy embargos and excommunication from the SWIFT banking system, Moscow is reaping record profits from its fossil fuel exports, the ruble is as strong against the dollar as it was in 2019, and Russia’s inflation rate has fallen.

You cannot believe anything that CNN reports.
 
Such a sad and pathetic reality that liberal warmongering folk measure power based on weapons. Stuck in WW2 mindset; backwards and irrelevant.
 
This was not an all-out war. I think it is illogical to determine Russia's capability based on this conflict alone.

Russia is fighting the following:

1. The 2nd largest army in Europe
2. An army with a huge arsenal of weapons - including soviet era and modern weapons
3. An army being supplied with intel from Washington and London
4. An army being supplied with $billions of weapons and ammunition
5. An army who has built fortifications (concrete and steel) over the last 8 years all over Donbas and Southern Ukraine

They are doing this with:

1. Operational orders not to target civilian infrastructure - although this might be changing
2. With a force of 200k (less than 100k are active duty Russian soldiers)
3. With the collective west imposing all manner of economic sanctions on them

Anyone commenting on this conflict and not putting some context to it, can't be taken seriously.

I personally think the biggest issue for the Russians is the operational order to avoid civilian casualties at all costs. The moment they start to accept there will collateral damage, that's when things will change and very quickly. Let's see how long the Ukranian public will be happy without water or electricity.
 
Wolf blitzer is cringe. He was on the right advocating for wars all his life. He should be on fox

It’s more the name that I find amusing, given that he does not look at all wolffish or blitzing.
 
Ukraine's recent counter-offensive will not change Russia's plans, Vladimir Putin has said in his first public comments on the matter.

In a rapid counter-attack, Ukrainian forces say they captured over 8,000 sq km (3,000 sq miles) in six days in the north-eastern Kharkiv region.

But Mr Putin said he was not in a hurry, and the offensive in Ukraine's Donbas region remains on track.

He also noted that Russia had so far not deployed its full forces.

"Our offensive operation in the Donbas is not stopping.

They're moving forward - not at a very fast pace - but they are gradually taking more and more territory," he said after a summit in Uzbekistan.

The industrial Donbas region in east Ukraine is the focus of Russia's invasion, which Mr Putin falsely claims is necessary to save Russian-speakers from genocide.

Parts of the Donbas have been occupied by Russian-backed separatists since 2014.

The Kharkiv region, where Ukraine's recent counter-attack was launched, is not part of the Donbas.

In Friday's comments, Mr Putin threatened a "more serious" response if Ukrainian attacks continue.

"I remind you that the Russian army isn't fighting in its entirety... Only the professional army is fighting."
 
Seems like China and India are pulling away from Russian. Early. But let’s see

What is your evidence. Provide quotes and sources.

My understanding is the complete opposite. Xi will not be attending the Queen’s funeral which he was invited to but he did travel to meet Putin.

So source and quote please.
 
Very alarming comments from Biden about the possibility of Putin escalating to tac-nukes.
 
Very alarming comments from Biden about the possibility of Putin escalating to tac-nukes.

Alarming quotes from a desperate President just 2 months before the mid-terms?

Just two days ago, once again Putin gave a sensible and mature speech about the conflict. Even if you dislike the man or his policies there is no denying he is a much better speaker.
 
Alarming quotes from a desperate President just 2 months before the mid-terms?

Just two days ago, once again Putin gave a sensible and mature speech about the conflict. Even if you dislike the man or his policies there is no denying he is a much better speaker.

Biden is past his best. He should have gone up against W in 2000. He was something special back then.

I don’t think he is desperate, though. I think he is achieving his goals, getting legislation through. At 75 what has he got to fear?
 
Biden is past his best. He should have gone up against W in 2000. He was something special back then.

I don’t think he is desperate, though. I think he is achieving his goals, getting legislation through. At 75 what has he got to fear?

Achieving his goals but losing popularity. I mean data can be manipulated in many ways - but there is absolutely no denying the American public are more against than with him.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
 
Very alarming comments from Biden about the possibility of Putin escalating to tac-nukes.

That's the only way alongwith massive ordanace munitions and chemical weapons to put the handbrake on the ukranian advance .
 
Biden is not 75, he will turn 80 this November.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he gaffs his way through at the Queen’s funeral tomorrow, and no doubt he will be talking Putin with world leaders.

There is more chance Biden will start a nuclear war than Putin, keep Biden away from the launch codes!
 
Which advance ? The north was left open on purpose. Please explain the south ?
Let them have the moment. Have you seen how the propaganda on MSM is working, when Russia makes gains they zoom out of the map to show it's nothing, but when Ukraine capture a settle they zoom in to make it look like they captured so much.

Putin said clearly in his speech the other day- they are not using their full force and they have no intention of doing so. He also said clearly in no uncertain terms, there is no timeline for their operation it will take as long as it takes.
 
Let them have the moment. Have you seen how the propaganda on MSM is working, when Russia makes gains they zoom out of the map to show it's nothing, but when Ukraine capture a settle they zoom in to make it look like they captured so much.

Putin said clearly in his speech the other day- they are not using their full force and they have no intention of doing so. He also said clearly in no uncertain terms, there is no timeline for their operation it will take as long as it takes.

Putin does not need full force, he has achieved his economic goals.

Why NATO bots fail to understand this point is beyond me. Must be all that ZMSM brainwashing,
 
Wikipedia mapis updated everyday, so far I can see nothing much in terms of gains other than slither of land in the East, for Ukraine. Other than that front line remains as it did before.

If someone can post any upto date maps? Happy to be corrected!
 
Putin does not need full force, he has achieved his economic goals.

Why NATO bots fail to understand this point is beyond me. Must be all that ZMSM brainwashing,

I agree with you on the economic situation however on the military side if he wants more than Donbas either he mobilises or he lets his forces takes the gloves off completely. He has enough to defend what he has and complete the capture of Donbas. But I don’t know if he and Russia want more. Maybe Odesa isn’t an aim, who knows.
 
Wikipedia mapis updated everyday, so far I can see nothing much in terms of gains other than slither of land in the East, for Ukraine. Other than that front line remains as it did before.

If someone can post any upto date maps? Happy to be corrected!

Frontline is stable and has been for a week. The Russians and Ukrainians have traded small settlements here and there but nothing major. Area to watch out for is near Lyman and also Bakhmut.
 
Frontline is stable and has been for a week. The Russians and Ukrainians have traded small settlements here and there but nothing major. Area to watch out for is near Lyman and also Bakhmut.

This was inevitable.

The defeated Russian troops around Kharkiv and Donetsk left behind vast amounts of weaponry as they fled, and conceded around 6,000 square kilometers of territory.

The Ukrainians have to complete mopping up work in those areas and they need to ensure that they are not overextended beyond their own supply lines.
 
Achieving his goals but losing popularity. I mean data can be manipulated in many ways - but there is absolutely no denying the American public are more against than with him.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

Biden was in significant electoral trouble six weeks ago, but he's doing extremely well now.

There are a number of reasons:

1. He has got significant legislation through Congress - the Inflation Reduction Act and the Medicare Drug Bill.

2. His policy of limiting arms supplies to Ukraine appears to be paying off. Effectively the USA has gifted Ukraine the oldest and least modern 1% of the USA's weaponry, which was approaching retirement anyway, and it is proving enough to defeat Russia, but so slowly that Russia is running out of weapons and manpower week by week.

3. The Supreme Court abortion decision has mobilised women, especially college-educated women, against the Republican Party, and has effectively turned the residential suburbs of most American towns and cities into Democrat territory.

4. Donald Trump has re-entered the political fray, and as always is antagonizing floating voters and moderate Republicans. He already lost the last election by 7 million votes, but his blatant theft of the government's most classified secrets and his threats of civil unrest are harming the Republican Party.

I don't approve of anyone over 65 working, ever, in any capacity. But Biden is doing pretty well currently - and I say that as a person whose sympathies are with the traditional Republican Party.
 
Russia has just lost control of Lysychansk, which is in Luhansk Oblast and 80% of the way towards the city of Luhansk from Kharkiv.

It’s all starting to go very wrong for Russia: they only managed to hold the city for nine weeks.

And now Severodonetsk is just across the river.

What we are seeing now is that Ukraine is starting to liberate significant cities in Donbas

As an aside, it’s interesting to see on Twitter that people are now openly talking of Russia being stripped of its Asian Empire.

Putin’s crazy war is going to reduce Russia to being a crowded, impoverished European nation with no oil or gas reserves. He may well have to abandon his nuclear weapons as the price for keeping a rump portion of the Russian Empire.
 
The European Union presidency has called for an international tribunal over Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

The call, from the Czech Republic which currently holds the rotating presidency of the bloc, came after the discovery of hundreds of graves in Izyum, a town recently liberated by Ukrainian troops.

Many are said to be civilians, women and children among them.

"We stand for the punishment of all war criminals," Czech Foreign Minister Jan Lipavsky said.

Ukraine says it believes war crimes have been committed in Izyum, where 59 bodies have been exhumed so far - with more expected from the graves in a forest at the edge of the city.

"In the 21st Century, such attacks against the civilian population are unthinkable and abhorrent," Mr Lipavsky said.

"We must not overlook it. We stand for the punishment of all war criminals," he said.

"I call for the speedy establishment of a special international tribunal that will prosecute the crime of aggression."

In his regular address on Saturday evening, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said investigators had discovered new evidence of torture used against the people buried in Izyum, in Kharkiv region.

"More than 10 torture chambers have already been found in the liberated areas of Kharkiv region, in various cities and towns," Mr Zelensky said.

He said the Russians would have to answer "both on the battlefield and in courtrooms".

On Thursday, EU Commission President chief Ursula von der Leyen said she wanted Mr Putin to face the International Criminal Court over war crimes in Ukraine.

Russia claims it is fighting to de-Nazify Ukraine, in a conflict it still refers to as a "special military operation" rather than a war.

It has not commented on the burial sites at Izyum. Moscow has previously denied targeting civilians.

The discovery of the burial sites came as Ukrainian troops continue their counter-offensive in the country's north-east, after successfully recapturing territory from Russia in recent days.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Friday that Ukrainian counter-offensives would not change Russia's military plans in the east of Ukraine.

The UK defence ministry says Russia is intensifying attacks on civilian infrastructure in Ukraine.

"As it faces setbacks on the front lines, Russia has likely extended the locations it is prepared to strike in an attempt to directly undermine the morale of the Ukrainian people and government," it said in its daily assessment of the conflict.

But Mr Putin is failing "on all his military and strategic objectives" in Ukraine, UK Chief of the Defence Staff Admiral Sir Tony Radakin told the BBC on Sunday.

Adm Radakin, however, urged caution as "the likely result with all of this is that it's going to grind on for a long time.

"And that's why there's a wishfulness when people jump to conclusions that either President Putin is weak and his power base might be undermined, or that Ukraine has gained some ground and there's been a magnificent action in the north-east.

"But it doesn't automatically lead on to easy victories elsewhere."

BBC
 
I've heard about these mass graves, but all I have seen so far is pictures of individual graves that are marked, some of them with crosses. So it seems quite strange that if the Russians were killing innocent civilians to then go out of their way to bury them and mark their graves. That too when they didn't have enough manpower to defend the frontline there. You see how quickly these lies start to unravel?

On the BBC in this article you'll see a comment and video "Watch: Putin failing on all his strategic military objectives - Radakin"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62945155

My question is, what are the strategic military objectives that he's failing on? As far I can see the key one was the liberation of Donbas which is about 60-70% complete with a force of 200k. They keep telling us he's failing - one of the big ones is apparently "he failed to take Kyiv in 72 hours", yet no one can provide a source quoting someone from the Kremlin where they say this is an objective.
 
"Asked in a CBS interview if US troops would defend the island, Mr Biden said: "Yes, if in fact, there was an unprecedented attack.""

I now see why he made this statement - the strength shown in last week's SCO gathering and unity did not go down well in Washington. China and Russia in particular called NATO terrorists without naming them by arming Ukraine and targetting civilians. The BBC and other western MSM will always cut out the narrative that doesn't suit them. But it was clear to me from the transcripts that the SCO is very united and they have collectively welcomed Iran into the block and ultimately stuck a middle finger up to the Americans and their continued sanctions.

That said there are two minor negatives from the SCO - I don't know how the fragile relationship between China and India will hold up given they are both rivals have a common friend (Russia). The other is there was no mention of a solution to the energy reserves, mind you unlike Europe at least they will have reliable and cheaper supply for the next few years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-62951347

On a seperate note, I tried to paste some links to alternative media on social media but I was given messages along the lines of "this violates our policies". It's clear that social media is watered down and only painting one side of the picture - the side that gullible people will buy into.
 
Achieving his goals but losing popularity. I mean data can be manipulated in many ways - but there is absolutely no denying the American public are more against than with him.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

He appears to have rallied in the polls a little, and is getting legislation through to benefit blue-collar Americans.

I think he will beat Trump if the latter runs again. Trump alienated plenty of people with his insurrection, and press coverage regarding possible Federal charges will run and run. Trump lost a lot of women with the abortion ban. That may not be critical though, as the abortion states are red states.

Of course if Trump wins again, his ally Putin will be much more free as NATO becomes destabilised.
 
He appears to have rallied in the polls a little, and is getting legislation through to benefit blue-collar Americans.

I think he will beat Trump if the latter runs again. Trump alienated plenty of people with his insurrection, and press coverage regarding possible Federal charges will run and run. Trump lost a lot of women with the abortion ban. That may not be critical though, as the abortion states are red states.

Of course if Trump wins again, his ally Putin will be much more free as NATO becomes destabilised.

The pathway to the Presidency is through Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

The Abortion ban alienated suburban female voters in Philly, Milwaukee and outside Detroit.

That means that Trump has absolutely no open pathway to victory. Donald Duck has more chance of winning in 2024 than Trump.

Which also means that Putin will not have a client in the White House, and he is a dead man walking.
 
I've heard about these mass graves, but all I have seen so far is pictures of individual graves that are marked, some of them with crosses. So it seems quite strange that if the Russians were killing innocent civilians to then go out of their way to bury them and mark their graves. That too when they didn't have enough manpower to defend the frontline there. You see how quickly these lies start to unravel?

On the BBC in this article you'll see a comment and video "Watch: Putin failing on all his strategic military objectives - Radakin"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62945155

My question is, what are the strategic military objectives that he's failing on? As far I can see the key one was the liberation of Donbas which is about 60-70% complete with a force of 200k. They keep telling us he's failing - one of the big ones is apparently "he failed to take Kyiv in 72 hours", yet no one can provide a source quoting someone from the Kremlin where they say this is an objective.

It’s like Russia left a trail of bread crumbs; just like in cartoons.
 
Putin’s crazy war is going to reduce Russia to being a crowded, impoverished European nation with no oil or gas reserves. He may well have to abandon his nuclear weapons as the price for keeping a rump portion of the Russian Empire.

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The world needs a laugh on the day of the Queen’s funeral. Hear this folks, Russia has no oil or gas, AND is a European nation. Oh, the largest country by landmass is over-crowded. Delusional.

Heard it all now. I feel sorry for the patients.
 
The pathway to the Presidency is through Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

The Abortion ban alienated suburban female voters in Philly, Milwaukee and outside Detroit.

That means that Trump has absolutely no open pathway to victory. Donald Duck has more chance of winning in 2024 than Trump.

Which also means that Putin will not have a client in the White House, and he is a dead man walking.

GOP might be advised to nominate DeSantis instead. He is a Navy veteran who has said Biden should take a harder line against Putin. Obviously not the man Putin wants as POTUS.
 
Most republicans a are pro Russia now. So if desentona wins he will have to tow that line also.
 
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The world needs a laugh on the day of the Queen’s funeral. Hear this folks, Russia has no oil or gas, AND is a European nation. Oh, the largest country by landmass is over-crowded. Delusional.

Heard it all now. I feel sorry for the patients.
You have not understood my post.

The oil and gas fields are not in Russia - they are in Asia - in Siberia and the Caucasus.

Russia now needs to be disarmed and dismembered, with its Asian territories either given independence or restored to China.

Modern Austria is around 10% of its former empire, as is modern Turkey.

Russia’s flagrant aggression and war crimes mean that it must now forfeit its empire.

It’s over: Russia must be reduced to around 10% of its current surface area, stretching no more than 200 km east of Moscow and around 500 km south.

The rump Russia will still have around 90 million people, in an area one tenth of its current size.

But they will lose their oil and gas fields, they will lose their Black Sea warm water port, they will lose Vladivostok, they will lose Kaliningrad and they will return Finland and Japan and China their lost territories.
 
List of colonised lands for forfeiture by Russia.

Pacific Islands, to Japan.
North east Chinese coast, including Vladivostok, to China.
Central Asian lands, independent.
Siberia, independent.
Karelia, to Finland.
South Ossetia and Abkhazia, to Georgia.
Transnistria, to Moldova.
Kaliningrad, to Germany as Koenigsberg.
Donbas, to Ukraine.
Crimea, to Ukraine.
 
List of colonised lands for forfeiture by Russia.

Pacific Islands, to Japan.
North east Chinese coast, including Vladivostok, to China.
Central Asian lands, independent.
Siberia, independent.
Karelia, to Finland.
South Ossetia and Abkhazia, to Georgia.
Transnistria, to Moldova.
Kaliningrad, to Germany as Koenigsberg.
Donbas, to Ukraine.
Crimea, to Ukraine.

Who declares/determines these forfeitures? You?
 
I should have listed both Tatarstan and Bashkortostan for independence. Both have around 4 million citizens.

The time has come to strip Russia of its empire and its natural resources.

The oil and gas need to be used for the next fifty years to fund the reconstruction of Ukraine.
 
Who declares/determines these forfeitures? You?

Russia’s claim to those lands is the same as Britain’s claim to Pakistan.

If Putin hadn’t spent the last decade destabilising and invading his neighbours they could have kept their empire.

But he has just started a catastrophic war of imperial conquest, which he is losing, and now Russia needs to pay for it.

Carthago delenda est.
 
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You have not understood my post.

Is this the only only excuse you have left? As a self proclaimed Doctor I'd have thought you would be clear and thorough.

According to you Russia has no Oil or Gas reserves yet supplies up to 40% of Oil and Gas to Europe (and we can see how Energy price are effecting Europeans). You try to dupe the readers by claiming Siberia is not part of Russia, which is incorrect at worst, and desperate at best.

According to you, and only you, Russia is a European nation, now you are attempting to alter the geography of the world, still, if we grant your wishy washy nonsense, Russia has the lowest debt to GDP in 'Europe'. You are wrong, Russia is in Asia.

How you are a doctor is beyond me, but what remains true is that an argument from authority isn't an argument from credibility, and you and your posts in this thread are proof of this.

You need to brush up on knowledge and basic facts. You are spewing lies, infactual information, making stuff up, and unable to back your claims with any evidence, in this thread. Perhaps this is a reflection of your understanding and desperation, because right now, Putin's 'propaganda' machine has nothing on your drivel.
 
He appears to have rallied in the polls a little, and is getting legislation through to benefit blue-collar Americans.

I think he will beat Trump if the latter runs again. Trump alienated plenty of people with his insurrection, and press coverage regarding possible Federal charges will run and run. Trump lost a lot of women with the abortion ban. That may not be critical though, as the abortion states are red states.

Of course if Trump wins again, his ally Putin will be much more free as NATO becomes destabilised.

Abortion is going to be critical, especially in the mildly red states. The abortion ban has motivated young women in the states who didn’t bother voting. It’s highly likely that mildly red states could turn blue in the next couple of elections.
 
Abortion is going to be critical, especially in the mildly red states. The abortion ban has motivated young women in the states who didn’t bother voting. It’s highly likely that mildly red states could turn blue in the next couple of elections.

The midterms will be a bellweather. Current polling suggests that the Dems could gain a majority in the Senate.
 
Most republicans a are pro Russia now. So if desentona wins he will have to tow that line also.

The most anti USSR party is acting as a stooge for Putin. Republican politics has gone crazy. The far left ( I don’t count Bernie as far left) is not helping the democrats either, but atleast they are fringe.
 
Is this the only only excuse you have left? As a self proclaimed Doctor I'd have thought you would be clear and thorough.

According to you Russia has no Oil or Gas reserves yet supplies up to 40% of Oil and Gas to Europe (and we can see how Energy price are effecting Europeans). You try to dupe the readers by claiming Siberia is not part of Russia, which is incorrect at worst, and desperate at best.

According to you, and only you, Russia is a European nation, now you are attempting to alter the geography of the world, still, if we grant your wishy washy nonsense, Russia has the lowest debt to GDP in 'Europe'. You are wrong, Russia is in Asia.

How you are a doctor is beyond me, but what remains true is that an argument from authority isn't an argument from credibility, and you and your posts in this thread are proof of this.

You need to brush up on knowledge and basic facts. You are spewing lies, infactual information, making stuff up, and unable to back your claims with any evidence, in this thread. Perhaps this is a reflection of your understanding and desperation, because right now, Putin's 'propaganda' machine has nothing on your drivel.
Here is a map of where Russia hosted the 2018 World Cup.

They could easily have played matches in Asia which fans of countries like Iran and Japan could easily have attended. But they didn’t, because Russia is run for white Europeans living within 300 miles of Moscow: Asian Russia is simply a colony exploited for strategic and economic reasons.

Returning to the map, a defeated Russia needs to lose its Empire, like every other European Empire.

They can keep the red bits - the places where they bothered to host the World Cup for white European Russians. Everywhere else gets returned to its rightful owners.

The oil and gas isn’t in Russia - it’s in Asia. And Russia will have to get used to no longer living off other people’s assets.

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Russia’s criminal aggression provoked this. Now they need to accept the consequences. They have been exposed as military minnows, and it’s time for them to lose their Empire. Which also means they will lose their oil and gas - which isn’t actually in Russia - and they need to lose their place on the UN Security Council.

It’s their own fault.
 
Thanks [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION], I wondered who CCCP stole Kaliningrad from.

Prussia - the foundation of Germany - had two main cities. Danzig (Gdańsk) in the west and Koenigsberg (Kaliningrad) in the east, both with populations over 95% ethnic German right up until Stalin ethnically cleansed them in 1945.

Stalin gave Danzig to Poland in exchange for taking Lviv and Western Ukraine from Poland. He stole Koenigsberg for the USSR.

You don’t get to conquer places, ethnically cleanse them and keep them.

Russia’s illusion of military might has delayed the dismantling of its Empire, while all the other European Empires lost their colonies.

Now Russia has brought the same process onto itself.

It is such a useless ally for countries like China that they would almost certainly prefer to get their lost territory back from Russia rather than remaining as Russia’s ally.
 
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The most anti USSR party is acting as a stooge for Putin. Republican politics has gone crazy. The far left ( I don’t count Bernie as far left) is not helping the democrats either, but atleast they are fringe.

Well, the current GOP leaders and Russian oligarchs are hard-right plutocrat crony capitalists, so there is a commonality there.
 
I got to hand it to you, warp speed to something that is completely unrelated to your initial claims.
Like Vladimir Putin you seem to have a problem distinguishing between what is Russia and what is its Empire.

That map is a perfect display of what part is actually Russia proper.

And the oil and gas is thousands of miles outside Russia Proper.

Russia’s claim to the oil and gas is based on the same imperial colonisation as if British still claimed the oil in Arabia and the gold in South Africa. In fact, the oil and gas is just as far away from Russia as the oil in Arabia is from the UK.

You seem desperate to have Russia as some sort of Asian superpower, so you ignore the reality that it is a deeply racist white European country which owns a large part of Asia, as opposed to being an Asian nation.

Go back to the red dots on the Russia 2018 World Cup map. That is effectively Russia self-identifying which part is really Russia.

And that is what they need to be reduced to.

It contains 75% of their population but only 10% of their current land and only 2% of their oil and gas wealth.

That’s the future Russia. And it will be dirt poor.
 
Like Vladimir Putin you seem to have a problem distinguishing between what is Russia and what is its Empire.

You have a problem with comprehension and geography.

Do you live on another planet? We are talking about Russia the country, and if you have no idea what Russia the country is, pick up a global atlas.

You are a desperate soul who has been reduced to redefining borders, just to substantiate your ignorant claims, and what makes it worse, you use a World Cup to do so too.

Russia is a European country - what a belter :)))
 
Here is a map of where Russia hosted the 2018 World Cup.

They could easily have played matches in Asia which fans of countries like Iran and Japan could easily have attended. But they didn’t, because Russia is run for white Europeans living within 300 miles of Moscow: Asian Russia is simply a colony exploited for strategic and economic reasons.

Returning to the map, a defeated Russia needs to lose its Empire, like every other European Empire.

They can keep the red bits - the places where they bothered to host the World Cup for white European Russians. Everywhere else gets returned to its rightful owners.

The oil and gas isn’t in Russia - it’s in Asia. And Russia will have to get used to no longer living off other people’s assets.

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Russia’s criminal aggression provoked this. Now they need to accept the consequences. They have been exposed as military minnows, and it’s time for them to lose their Empire. Which also means they will lose their oil and gas - which isn’t actually in Russia - and they need to lose their place on the UN Security Council.

It’s their own fault.

You do know that the vast majority of siberia and the polar regions of Russia have barely any people and you have vast tracts of wilderness , so what football stadium could host a world Cup match ?
 
Russia could possibly be considered a Eurasian country? Transcontinental.

Alongside for example Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, and Turkey.
 
Russia could possibly be considered a Eurasian country? Transcontinental.

Alongside for example Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, and Turkey.

It is literally a Eurasian country. A portion of it is in Asia while a portion is in Europe.
 
Russia could possibly be considered a Eurasian country? Transcontinental.

Alongside for example Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, and Turkey.

Yes, but Russia is not a European country which was the claim.

Then you have claims like this : The oil and gas isn’t in Russia - it’s in Asia - LOL-WUT?

This claim along with others from Junaids are just pure insanity.

Basically according to him - Russia has no oil or gas because the oil/gas is in Asia, not Russia (Even though the oilfields are with Russian borders), and Russia is a European country because Russia has occupied Ukraine.

Unreal to the max.
 
I guess just like Mexico is geographically in North America it is culturally and socially more Central American. Likewise everything about Russia screams European rather than Asian.
 
1% of the British Empire was in Europe.

Russia is a nation run by white Europeans for white Europeans, which lives off the assets of its Asian colonies and uses its Asian subjects as cannon fodder to prevent European Russians from having to join the Army.
 
You do know that the vast majority of siberia and the polar regions of Russia have barely any people and you have vast tracts of wilderness , so what football stadium could host a world Cup match ?

37.3 million people live in Siberia and the Russian Far East.

European Russia lives off their natural resources.

It’s time for Siberia and Asian Russia to be a nation with 40 million rich citizens, while the nation of Russia will be just 100 million dirt poor Europeans.
 
37.3 million people live in Siberia and the Russian Far East.

European Russia lives off their natural resources.

It’s time for Siberia and Asian Russia to be a nation with 40 million rich citizens, while the nation of Russia will be just 100 million dirt poor Europeans.

You do know that 85% of siberian citizens are decendents russian and European colonisers , cossack groups that settled there they are white Europeans and they vastly outnumber any other primitive indigenous group.

The remaining indigenous groups many of them even have mixed european blood and large majority are russian orthodox and totally been russified , they're indigenous ways of life have more or less been destroyed and most of their youth and young men have gone to the big cities and settle there and find work.
 
You do know that the vast majority of siberia and the polar regions of Russia have barely any people and you have vast tracts of wilderness , so what football stadium could host a world Cup match ?

You do know that 85% of siberian citizens are decendents russian and European colonisers , cossack groups that settled there they are white Europeans and they vastly outnumber any other primitive indigenous group.

The remaining indigenous groups many of them even have mixed european blood and large majority are russian orthodox and totally been russified , they're indigenous ways of life have more or less been destroyed and most of their youth and young men have gone to the big cities and settle there and find work.
Yes, I’m aware of that - rather like Australia and Canada and New Zealand.

But it still isn’t Russia - it’s an Asian land that has been ethnically cleansed and colonised by Russia.

Russia has pulled the same stunt on multiple neighbours: claiming that Russian speakers are being discriminated against, requiring military intervention and separation from the country of which they are part.

The human rights atrocities are intolerable, and now Russia needs to be disarmed, stripped of its Empire and it also needs to have its oil and gas revenue used to pay for what it has destroyed in the Ukraine.
 
<b>Four areas of Ukraine under Moscow's control have announced plans for urgent so-called referendums on joining Russia, which would pave the way for Russian annexation.</b>

Russia's invasion has stalled in recent months and Ukraine has recaptured swathes of territory in the north-east.

Now Russian-backed officials in the east and south say they want votes on joining Russia starting this week.

Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, after a vote drew international condemnation.

Russian President Vladimir Putin had been expected to give an address to the nation on Tuesday evening but sources close to the Kremlin indicated later that it had been postponed, with no reason given.

Ukraine's Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said on Tuesday that "sham 'referendums' will not change anything".

The international community has never recognised the Crimea annexation, but it has long been clear that Russia intends to rubber-stamp its takeover of other occupied regions in the same way.

Annexing more Ukrainian territory would enable the Kremlin to claim Russia itself was coming under attack from Nato weapons.

Russia launched its invasion on 24 February.

There is speculation that Russia may announce a mass mobilisation, to beef up its forces in Ukraine.

The Russian parliament has approved tougher punishments for crimes such as desertion, damage to military property and insubordination during mobilisation or combat operations.

The deputy head of Russia's Security Council, Dmitry Medvedev, said early on Tuesday that holding votes in the eastern regions of Donetsk and Luhansk - also known as Donbas - would correct "historical justice" and be irreversible:

"After the amendments to the constitution of our state, no future leader of Russia, no official, will be able to reverse these decisions."

Soon afterwards the two breakaway Russian-backed authorities in Donetsk and Luhansk said they would stage votes on 23-27 September.

They were both recognised as independent by President Putin three days before Russian troops invaded Ukraine from the north, east and south.

Russian-installed officials in the southern region of Kherson said they would also hold a vote, and a similar declaration came from Russian-occupied areas of Zaporizhzhia.

Russian state media said people would be able to vote in person or remotely.
 
Mobilisation coming? [MENTION=135003]bones[/MENTION] [MENTION=145891]cpleigh[/MENTION]
 
Mobilisation coming? [MENTION=135003]bones[/MENTION] [MENTION=145891]cpleigh[/MENTION]

Partial mobilisation, no more than 40k according to alternative media. But apparently the Russians are banking on a tough and long winter for Europe in the hopes that Europe will convince Washington to negotiate.

If referendums are held and they join Russia as we expect, the Kremlin is trying to push through laws to police these regions. We are still some time away, Putin is no hurry.
 
This thread has seen a number of ethnically Asian posters defend Russia as a largely Asian country, and disputing my argument that Russia is effectively a European country which has annexed large areas of Asia and treats Asians as second-class sub-human citizens.

And now we have the story of how the Russian occupiers treated a group of Sri Lankan men and a woman whom they encountered in Ukraine, and turned into their slaves.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62948148

It's quite funny that ethnically Asian people on this forum whom the Russians view as inferior because they are Asian are actually defending Russia as a European country!
 
Russians were furious that Kharkiv was handed over without a fight. They feel humiliated even if militarily we all know that they didn't have enough men to fight there. Alternative media is saying that the Russian population wants Putin to step up and end this, but he also is not in a hurry because of winter.
 
Russians were furious that Kharkiv was handed over without a fight. They feel humiliated even if militarily we all know that they didn't have enough men to fight there. Alternative media is saying that the Russian population wants Putin to step up and end this, but he also is not in a hurry because of winter.

I can't believe that I am about to do this, but I'm going to almost take Putin's side here!

I half-agree with your basic argument: Putin went into this invasion with too few troops, because he expected that his Army would be viewed as liberating heroes and that the Ukrainian government would collapse inside 72 hours.

There is a comparison with Argentina invading the Falkland Islands in 1982 because they had misinterpreted a number of British actions such as the retirement of HMS Endurance as evidence that Britain would not fight back but would negotiate.

To Putin's surprise the Ukrainian people - even the Ukrainian Russians - did not welcome the Russian Army, and full-scale resistance occurred. But the Russian Army did not have the logistics to sustain the drive towards Kyiv, and their tanks and trucks with dodgy tyres and insufficient fuel broke down and he effectively lost a huge part of his best troops and material, before making fake claims that it was just a feint all along.

For the next six months he has lacked the advanced weapons to obtain a clean American-style victory and has instead been reduced to using WW2 artillery tactics to flatten Ukrainian towns and cities and to grind out tiny areas of advancement, but at the cost of completely destroying the lives - and support - of the very people he pretends to be liberating.

Putin has probably lost half his professional army, 90% of their advanced weaponry and the support of Ukrainian Russians, and he now has an overstretched army with weak points all over the south, east and northeast of Ukraine.

That is not to say that the Ukrainians have not suffered heavy losses too. But they are better trained and they increasingly are replacing their spent weaponry with superior western weapons, while Russia is reduced to shopping in Tajikstan, North Korea and Iran to try to replace its spent weaponry.

Russia's best troops and weapons are now defending Kherson, which is the only major place that they have conquered all year. They are making tiny progress at a single Donbas location - Bakhmut - while steadily losing what they had previously seized everywhere else in Donbas.

Putin is stuck. He hasn't got enough troops or modern weapons to hold all three of Donbas, Crimea and Kherson and that is after his Army had to retreat suddenly from Kharkiv, running away so fast that they left behind vast amounts of material.

The thing is, Biden is not going for broke by providing Ukraine with the weapons that it needs to finish the war off quickly. Part of this is political - there has been virtually no opposition to gifting Ukraine the most obsolete 1% of the USA's weapons, but giving them more advanced weaponry may not enjoy bipartisan support. But more importantly, every day that the war continues Russia's military is damaged further and it loses more influence in the former Soviet Republics. Already Kazakstan is democratising, and the protagonists in the Tajik-Kyrgyz and Armenaia/Azeri conflicts are brazenly ignoring Russia's attempts to intervene.

I don't think most Russians understand that they have just lost at Kharkiv. The elites know, and may be angry, but the diet of stultifying propaganda fed to the general public means that they think that their brave boys are still rooting out evil Nazis across Ukraine, and being welcomed as liberators as they do it.

The Army and political elite know that they can't win this war now, and that there is a genuine danger of losing what they already held in Crimea and Donbas. But I don't think that the Russian public knows that.
 
Western nations have condemned Moscow's plans to hold urgent so-called referendums in parts of Ukraine that are currently under Russian control.

The votes have been called by Russian-backed officials in four Ukrainian regions to ask whether they should become part of Russia.

The US, Germany and France have said they would never recognise the results of such "sham" ballots.

The Nato military alliance said the plans spelt an escalation in the war.

Plans to run polls for five days, starting on Friday, have been announced in the eastern regions of Luhansk and Donetsk - as well as Zaporizhzhia and Kherson in the south.

The quartet represent around 15% of Ukrainian territory - or an area the size of Hungary, according to Reuters news agency.

The suggestion that legitimate and fair polls could be run in the middle of a war were immediately scorned by the West.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz blasted the Russian plans for "sham" votes, while French President Emmanuel Macron labelled them a "parody" of democracy.

"If the Donbas referendum idea wasn't so tragic it would be funny," Mr Macron told reporters in New York, where he is attending the United Nations General Assembly.

He pleaded with neutral countries to change their stance to the war, saying silence or complicity was an "historic error".

US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said the US would never recognise the votes, calling them "an affront to the principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity".

Any referendum planned by invading forces contravenes international law and will have no legal force, the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) said in a statement.

BBC
 
Look at all these European leaders panicking, they now realise the reality Russia has consolidated most of the territory they have gained and it's never going to be a part of Ukraine again. The sanctions have hurt Europe more than Russia and now that Putin has declared partial mobilisation they can be flexible with the next goal.

The west did this, they prevented negotiations in Istanbul earlier this year. Now Russia will definitely take more land.
 
I'm reading 300,000 reserves to be mobilised. If its true I can see all of Ukraines gains being undone. The referendums will make it easy for Russia to claim that its their territory under fire leading to more escalation
 
I'm reading 300,000 reserves to be mobilised. If its true I can see all of Ukraines gains being undone. The referendums will make it easy for Russia to claim that its their territory under fire leading to more escalation

I think that's MSM dramatising the situation. Alternative voices, Johnson/MacGregor etc have said it'll be 30-40k troops.

If 300k were mobilised, then you'd see big/fast sweeping moves across the entire frontline. I don't see 300k additional being mobilised.
 
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