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cornered-tigers said:
Calling Kallis an all-rounder is a joke, when his bowling is so pedestrian, compare that with the bowling of Imran, Kapil, Hadlee and you would know,
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Compare their batting with Kallis' and they'll also be a joke. Silly comparison.
 
Jo_Don said:
Compare their batting with Kallis' and they'll also be a joke. Silly comparison.
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I think by call all-rounders... all-rounders we do them a dis-service.

You have two separate species.

Bowling all-rounders and batting all-rounders...

You can only realistically compare like for like.
 
Put it this way.... Statistically speaking you almost have....

Kallis = Sachin + Zaheer Khan.

:)
 
MR__KHAN__JI said:
I think by call all-rounders... all-rounders we do them a dis-service.

You have two separate species.

Bowling all-rounders and batting all-rounders...

You can only realistically compare like for like.
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Yeah that's exactly the point. Comparing a bowling allrounder to a batting allrounder makes no sense. Then you get those who are average at both, like Flintoff :P
 
Jo_Don said:
Yeah that's exactly the point. Comparing a bowling allrounder to a batting allrounder makes no sense. Then you get those who are average at both, like Flintoff :P
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The only one that can challenge Kallis is Sobers.
 
i hope someone breaks tendulkars records. records are meant to be broken. even better if an indian breaks them
 
W63L35 said:
If there was no world war, and 11-14 tests during Bradman's career, he would have ended up with 50K runs.


If only PCB has scheduled as many matches as BCCI during Miandad's career, he would have also easily ended up 20K in 1976-1992.

If Nehru was alive, he would still be Prime Minister on India.
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Even if you combine Inzi and JM's test runs it wont come anywhere close to 20K ... and between them they played 224 Test matches. But a certain Indian player who you like to diss will come very close (if not go past it ) to this combined RUNS tally of Inzi + JM ( = 17662) .
 
cricaddict said:
Even if you combine Inzi and JM's test runs it wont come anywhere close to 20K ... and between them they played 224 Test matches. But a certain Indian player who you like to diss will come very close (if not go past it ) to this combined RUNS tally of Inzi + JM ( = 17662) .
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A lot of people can talk about a lot of ifs and buts (specially :ibutt & :butt) but here is reality....which none of the 10-year old Sachinistas seemed to have digest very well and caused them severe heart burn... as you could see from the subsequent replies;

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=3212300&postcount=1
 
SID_ZONE said:
That has to one of your worst posts ever on PP!! Comparing combined efforts of Kallis and Cullinan against one batsman! Woah :)
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That is exactly why it still give a lot of people severe heart burn?? ;-)

I don't care if you call it the worst post of all the cricket forums in the world..... but I asked a simple question ... and am yet to hear a reply!

Read first two posts ... and then reply to a simle question in the 3rd one.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=3212300&postcount=1

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=3238101&postcount=39

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=3238131&postcount=41

Lets see your best reply to my worst post!
 
With Sachin reaching 15000... I thought it was time for an update....

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Kallis needs a couple of really good years

Smiths career seems to have plateaued.

Cook has 10ish years to get 9000 runs...


And our young pretenders.....

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MR__KHAN__JI said:
With Sachin reaching 15000... I thought it was time for an update....

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Kallis needs a couple of really good years

Smiths career seems to have plateaued.

Cook has 10ish years to get 9000 runs...


And our young pretenders.....

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Ponting reaches 13000..... but still 2000 runs behind Tendu.

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Taufeeq overtakes Kamran.... Umar Akmal being wasted.

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Mr KHAN JI - just one editing to your previous comment, Umar Akmal is not being wasted. He is not utilizing on his potential. He messes up his starts and loses concentration in the middle.
 
WithLoveFromCanada said:
Ponting deserves to over take Sachin. He has been the captain as well which makes life tough in the middle. With so much responsibility on his shoulder he has saved australia many times from crisis situations and also played match winning innings. Also got the title "Sir Ricky Ponting" in my books. :bow:
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Its almost an year now..and How right was back 1 year. Ponting plays for the team whereas Sachin played for records as its quite clear he doesnt care about team india. He cares about his 100th 100.

Ponting you're a LEGEND. Hope you keep scoring runs and one day overtake Tendulkar in # of centuries.
 
Cricket Australia needs to arrange few test series against Zimbabwe, Ponting only has 2 centuries against the minnows compared to 8 by Tendulkar, Without Zimbabwe and Bangladesh Punter is behind by only 4 centuries.
 
WithLoveFromCanada said:
Its almost an year now..and How right was back 1 year. Ponting plays for the team whereas Sachin played for records as its quite clear he doesnt care about team india. He cares about his 100th 100.

Ponting you're a LEGEND. Hope you keep scoring runs and one day overtake Tendulkar in # of centuries.
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lol why is that so clear,because u thought that in ur bathroom?:))
 
Saurav said:
lol why is that so clear,because u thought that in ur bathroom?:))
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Keeping jokes aside, I did mention why in other thread. He could have retired at the end of World cup but he didnt and he chose to play for records. Now this great 7-0 loss has taken some shine away from his career.
 
MR__KHAN__JI said:
I have added current PAKISTAN "Youngsters" to the list.....

I have also added columns for innings per 50 and innings per 100.
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Inzi, MO Yousaf and Younis could not do Javeds record?

No one from pakistan can catch Sachin long as we keep playing away from home and keep 2 test series.
 
WithLoveFromCanada said:
Keeping jokes aside, I did mention why in other thread. He could have retired at the end of World cup but he didnt and he chose to play for records. Now this great 7-0 loss has taken some shine away from his career.
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I posted the question there too,why should he have retired after WC
 
Saurav said:
I posted the question there too,why should he have retired after WC
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cuz that was the pinnacle of Cricketing sport and he had achieved everything at the end of it. He should have made way for Indian youngsters but because nobody could have raised any question to this great great man of Indian cricket, he decided to keep on playing for his records selfishly.

Until the World Cup, India benefited from him

now after the World Cup, he's benefiting from India.
 
WithLoveFromCanada said:
cuz that was the pinnacle of Cricketing sport and he had achieved everything at the end of it. He should have made way for Indian youngsters but because nobody could have raised any question to this great great man of Indian cricket, he decided to keep on playing for his records selfishly.

Until the World Cup, India benefited from him

now after the World Cup, he's benefiting from India.
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achieved everything,series win in Aus was remaining.sure he would never get it now,but nothing wrong in wanting to have a shot

n even if had achieved everything,so what?u play the game for its enjoyment,not achievements.by your logic guys like Ponting,Warne,McGrath should hv retired a lot earlier than they did since they had achieved everything.
 
Nayyyy, its pretty safe, Ponting wont last against SA, ENG or India @ India ofcourse, this may just be a short extended lease... SRT the top dawg...
 
This competition being kept alive is the best thing that a Sachin fan can ask for ( you know why) :)
 
I do not think Pakistan Player can ever get to 10 k ..... Pakistan plays have very short Test Careers , also the fact that they do not get enough hundreds.
 
^MoYo was going strong, would have done it for sure had ICL not happened.
 
Chris Gayle and MoYo ....identical record? Wow....
 

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Another ODI hundred. 13 hundreds in both formats. Overall 26.


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The quest for the 100th hundred however has made me believe that this hundreds record set by Tendulkar is gonna be a hard one to beat as we have seen now how it gets so difficult when one is chasing hundreds. Runs keep flowing but these hundreds don't come easy in desperation. Whenever some1 in future gets close to it, media will create pressure onhim and he will eventually break into pieces.
 
Is there any current batsman on track to beat Tendulkar's 100th 100?

Is there any batsman who is on track or seemingly on track on getting to a 100 100s himself?
 
it is one hell of a task but kohli seems right on track n the best thing is....... kohli ain't selfish
 
In future people will find it difficult the moment Tendulkar comparisons pop up.
 
Yup. Combining formats to beat sachins number of int. 100s will happen. Sooner or later I think international series will drop ODI's and we may see things like 10game 20/20 series springing up regularly. More fringe nations will get involved, more 20/20 international games against minnows outside the world cups and someone like Warner will probably get 30 test and 80 20/20 international centuries.
Sachin fans will say 20/20s dont count, New record holder fans will ask why didn't sachin score many 20/20 centuries if they are so easy and dont count. And bradman fans will wonder why dont either just average 100.
 
In ODI, I think Virat 'll cross him. Virat 'll play in top 3 most of his career & the ODI wickets are are going to get flatter. Also, the number of "ICC Philanthropic Match" 'll grow & he 'll play lot more matches against the likes of BD, ZIM to the likes of Canada, Afghanistan, UAE, may be even Nepal. However, I am not sure if Virat 'll be shamelessly selfish enough to play for his hundreds in ODI, he looks not like that.

In Test, Amla might, but he is almost 29 & need to play another 125+ Test matches & I don't think he can keep his form constant for another 10-12 years to score 2/3 hundreds every year. If Cook stops playing ODI after 2015 or 2019 & keeps playing till his late 30s, he 'll definitely give a real fight for 50+ Test hundreds. In 2004 Cook led an awful English U19 team in BD U19 WC; but personally was outstanding. I watched his 2 knocks from club house & told one of my friend that Cook 'll cross Gooch's English Test run record. He might challenge SRT for Test stats.

In Internationals, I doubt anybody ever, just like Bradman's 99.94 or JB Hobbs's 199 FC hundred (Or 61K+ runs).
 
Some of them end up umpiring. :23:
Nitin Sundar tweets: "Reiffel umpiring in Ind-Ban ODI. Dharmasena umpiring in Aus-WI ODI. Both debuted after Sachin."
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5-6 people will break this record within the next 10 years
 
Cook, the name is Alastair Cook. Proper heir to the throne.
 
Cook will overtake Tendulkar when it comes to test hundreds.
 
Sultan Yusuf said:
Quality vs Quantity
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Definitely. But why cant you have both? After all, as one of the most respected cricketer of all time, rated by all experts, ex and current players (before he broke even one single record), present in all top XI lists by any cricketer, rated second after Bradman by Wisden, Sachin does have loads of quality too. You cannot be rated by Bradman, Richards, Lara, Warne, etc, etc unless you are the highest in quality!.

And anyone who breaks his record, be it Cook, or Kallis or any other future player will also have lots of quality
 
NJamal said:
Nobody can catch Teenda, 14 100s in losing cause.
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Yet more hundred in winning causes that anyone in the Pakistan team too. Being bitter against one of the greatest player ever shows more about the person who is bitter than the player. I am always surprised when Indians have no issues with the greatness of Imran, Waim or Waqar but some Pakistanis have a huge chip in the shoulder about Sachin. Maybe its because he is still currently playing
 
amit said:
5-6 people will break this record within the next 10 years
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amit, has even one of your prediction ever come true? Is Shikar Dhawan in the Indian team yet? Surely he is the best young player, much better than Kohli and Pujara
 
^ Bro Shikhar was hot property like 4-5 years ago tbh. I believed in him as well. :adnan
 
WithLoveFromCanada said:
cuz that was the pinnacle of Cricketing sport and he had achieved everything at the end of it. He should have made way for Indian youngsters but because nobody could have raised any question to this great great man of Indian cricket, he decided to keep on playing for his records selfishly.

Until the World Cup, India benefited from him

now after the World Cup, he's benefiting from India.
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What is more selfish, retiring at your peak because you (personaly you) ahcieved everything including the world cup (again this is personal schievement) or still continuing for the team even if your reputation suffers?

Lara retired at his peak when I believed he still had a couple of years in him. Did you see how West Indies suffered after that, particularly because of their weak batting? In my opinion, retiring at your own personal peak is more selfish, because you still have something to offer to the country. But you are worried more about your reputation than your country
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Cricket as a game is all about quantity. More runs and more wickets - You win. More style, more pace and turn but less run and wickets - You lose.
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Yes, but love the way how they deny that Sachin has any quality whatsover. Its like all the greatest experts in the game have all been hood-winked and only a couple of posters here are the geniuses who figured out that Sachin has no quality

Also love the fact that they keep claiming Sachin is famous for his recrods, when Sachin was rated as the best ever before he broke one signle record
 
There is no way in hell Pakistan can be bitter of Tendulkar, Pakistan tamed Tendulkar at whim, and the numbers prove it.

I pray to almighty that Sachin lives a long life, long enough to see his records smashed into smithereens.
 
Namak_Halaal said:
There is no way in hell Pakistan can be bitter of Tendulkar, Pakistan tamed Tendulkar at whim, and the numbers prove it.

I pray to almighty that Sachin lives a long life, long enough to see his records smashed into smithereens.
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No doubt, Pakistani people are too good to be bitter about petty things. Guess most of them admire and respect Sachin. They know their Cricket.
 
Namak_Halaal said:
There is no way in hell Pakistan can be bitter of Tendulkar, Pakistan tamed Tendulkar at whim, and the numbers prove it.

I pray to almighty that Sachin lives a long life, long enough to see his records smashed into smithereens.
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I wonder NH how he won 3 MOMs vs Pakistan in WCs.LOL.Tamed.I can understand the pain of Pakistanis as they didnt have a batsman half as good as Tendulkar.Their hyped up Inzy failed miserably in comparision to Tendulkar.Then they hyped up Anwar and he was also no match for Tendulkar.I understand the pain.Mohali Centurion and even the 1992 WC defeat all hurt.Tendulkar tamed the famed Pakistani attack on the biggest stage of all.Records are meant to be broken but lets see how easy it will be to break this one.Keep hurting:)
 
Namak_Halaal said:
There is no way in hell Pakistan can be bitter of Tendulkar, Pakistan tamed Tendulkar at whim, and the numbers prove it.

I pray to almighty that Sachin lives a long life, long enough to see his records smashed into smithereens.
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I will tell you what, there is a good chance that something might happen 2 u in happyness and excitement of seeing that than sachin having a small heartbreak....you are more obsessed abt sach's records than Sachin himself..and most of his fanatics!!
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Cook, the name is Alastair Cook. Proper heir to the throne.
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Not really. He is an opener who plays 70 percent of his games in England. He is bound to get really good balls that you can not do much about every now and then. For anyone to break Sachin's records, he would to bat at no.4 . No pressure of a new ball, no pressure of losing partners at the other end. easy :jf
 
Gunther said:
Not really. He is an opener who plays 70 percent of his games in England. He is bound to get really good balls that you can not do much about every now and then. For anyone to break Sachin's records, he would to bat at no.4 . No pressure of a new ball, no pressure of losing partners at the other end. easy :jf
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Was phenomenal in Australia and now in India. All that matters for an English. (considering RSA is home cricket) :P
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Was phenomenal in Australia and now in India. All that matters for an English. (considering RSA is home cricket) :P
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But seriously, majority of the modern run machines like Kallis, Sachin, Jayawardane, Lara have batted at no.4. Top order is a tough place to play :kohli
 
freelance_cricketer said:
No doubt, Pakistani people are too good to be bitter about petty things. Guess most of them admire and respect Sachin. They know their Cricket.
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Smart followers of cricket, and in life in general, understand the difference between quality and quantity.

This is why Pakistanis respect Dravid/Gavaskar above Tendulkar.

Soon, the name of Alistair Cook will be etched in cricketing folklore.
 
Namak_Halaal said:
Smart followers of cricket, and in life in general, understand the difference between quality and quantity.

This is why Pakistanis respect Dravid/Gavaskar above Tendulkar.

Soon, the name of Alistair Cook will be etched in cricketing folklore.
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Dravid, Gavaskar are two other batting greats from India, so no surprises there. Dravid certainly inferior to the other two with Sachin being best. :)
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Dravid, Gavaskar are two other batting greats from India, so no surprises there. Dravid certainly inferior to the other two with Sachin being best. :)
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I'd say Dravid and Gavaskar are the only batting greats from India.

It was Gavaskar who first broke the Don's number of Test Centuries, and it was Gavaskar who first scored 10000 Test runs.

Barring Dravid, all other Indian batsmen went to school on Gavaskar's batting.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Cricket as a game is all about quantity. More runs and more wickets - You win. More style, more pace and turn but less run and wickets - You lose.
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And yet despite all his 'quantity', one of teendi's biggest criticism is that he hasn't won enough matches.

And please don't come out with the boo hoo argument of carrying a nations hopes. It is ridiculous, unfounded, dramebaaz and ultimately completely untrue
 
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