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Shakib al Hasan vs Ravindra Jadeja

How is this a debate? Shakib. Performed in all conditions and the pressure of the team is on his whole shoulders.

Then you have a part time all rounder who is yet to do anything notable with the bat and is a useful part time bowler in favourable conditions.

If you pick Jadeja, you must be trolling.
 
Sankalp said:
:46: Never again do this kinda comparison in future.

On the topic of this thread - Yes Shakib is ahead ATM...but Jadeja might catch him soon.
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First of all, I didnt make a comparison in the first place. 2nd, if shakib performs like this for the next 4-5 years then I think the comparison would be valid.

BTW, you cant ask Jadeja to catch up on sakib who find himself to bat at important positions, as opposed having to bat no. 7, when you have no choice but to slog at everything. You can compare jadeja to the likes of Robin Pietersen, or Sammy. Add to that, Shakib has to carry the weight of an ordinary team on his shoulders. India has more than enough match winners, BD has only a few of them
 
Executioner said:
First of all, I didnt make a comparison in the first place. 2nd, if shakib performs like this for the next 4-5 years then I think the comparison would be valid.

BTW, you cant ask Jadeja to catch up on sakib who find himself to bat at important positions, as opposed having to bat no. 7, when you have no choice but to slog at everything. You can compare jadeja to the likes of Robin Pietersen, or Sammy. Add to that, Shakib has to carry the weight of an ordinary team on his shoulders. India has more than enough match winners, BD has only a few of them
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Bad argument.. You're hell bent on projecting Shakib as a world beater :)))
 
Sandeep99 said:
Bad argument.. You're hell bent on projecting Shakib as a world beater :)))
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I am just stating facts.

I am just stating that shakib has been a excellent player, and no use of comparing him with someone who has mediocre for a majority of his career, however has shown signs of improvement over the past
 
some good performances against zimbabwe in 20/20 and bangladesh fans start overhyping shakib :)))

let shakib perform against the top 5 teams like jadeja before bumping this thread. jadeja has performed against big teams like england, australia, pakistan unlike shakib who feasts on weaker teams and inflates his stats
 
Shakib Al Hassan vs Sir Ravindra Jadeja

Shakib isn't a world class player. The mediocrity that he's surrounded with makes him look better.
 
this thread has become a joke now. jadeja is far better by miles

jadeja takes 5/36 today and took 3/6 when windies were looking to take the game away around the 20th over
 
Ravindra Jadeja no doubt, has a fantastic Test record. The guy is class.

Took a fiver when it mattered during Champions Trophy.

Ran out Peterson when South Africa were cruising, a certain candidate for player of the tournament in Champions Trophy.
 
Shakib hasn't played anywhere near the amount of ODIs Jadeja has since the start of 2012.

T20 bowling career - Shakib 109 matches - 137 wickets - BBI 6/6 - Economy rate 6.61 - Strike Rate 17.6 - bowling average 19.40.

T20 bowling career - Jadeja 100 matches - 51 wickets - BBI 5/16 - Economy rate 7.51 - Strike Rate 24.9 - bowling average 31.29.

Jadeja has played on helpful pitches so far and the big test will be coming Indian tours to South Africa, New Zealand etc. Out of the 2 Shakib is clearly the dangerous especially on turning pitches.
 
Energetic said:
Shakib hasn't played anywhere near the amount of ODIs Jadeja has since the start of 2012.

T20 bowling career - Shakib 109 matches - 137 wickets - BBI 6/6 - Economy rate 6.61 - Strike Rate 17.6 - bowling average 19.40.

T20 bowling career - Jadeja 100 matches - 51 wickets - BBI 5/16 - Economy rate 7.51 - Strike Rate 24.9 - bowling average 31.29.

Jadeja has played on helpful pitches so far and the big test will be coming Indian tours to South Africa, New Zealand etc. Out of the 2 Shakib is clearly the dangerous especially on turning pitches.
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:))) @ u comparing them in t20

at real formats,

shakib -

Code: 
Tests 	30 	50 	7242 	3476 	106 	7/36 	9/115 	32.79 	2.87 	68.3 	4 	9 	0
ODIs 	129 	128 	6578 	4729 	161 	4/16 	4/16 	29.37 	4.31 	40.8 	4 	0 	0
First-class 	65 		13296 	6202 	205 	7/32 		30.25 	2.79 	64.8 	6 	14 	0
List A 	156 	154 	7693 	5481 	190 	4/16 	4/16 	28.84 	4.27 	40.4 	7 	0 	0

jadeja -

Code: 
Tests 	5 	10 	1580 	536 	27 	5/58 	7/98 	19.85 	2.03 	58.5 	0 	1 	0
ODIs 	80 	77 	3773 	2907 	95 	5/36 	5/36 	30.60 	4.62 	39.7 	3 	1 	0
First-class 	48 	81 	11025 	4400 	171 	7/31 	10/65 	25.73 	2.39 	64.4 	8 	11 	2
List A 	120 	115 	5601 	4173 	150 	5/36 	5/36 	27.82 	4.47 	37.3 	6 	1 	0

jadeja clearly has the better bowling avg
 
Shakib, Though his performances often go to waste as he plays for a weak team
 
@amit. U are talking abt stats but jadeda has played 5 tests only. Sakib is the better allrounder
 
amit said:
:))) @ u comparing them in t20

at real formats,

shakib -

Code: 
Tests 	30 	50 	7242 	3476 	106 	7/36 	9/115 	32.79 	2.87 	68.3 	4 	9 	0
ODIs 	129 	128 	6578 	4729 	161 	4/16 	4/16 	29.37 	4.31 	40.8 	4 	0 	0
First-class 	65 		13296 	6202 	205 	7/32 		30.25 	2.79 	64.8 	6 	14 	0
List A 	156 	154 	7693 	5481 	190 	4/16 	4/16 	28.84 	4.27 	40.4 	7 	0 	0

jadeja -

Code: 
Tests 	5 	10 	1580 	536 	27 	5/58 	7/98 	19.85 	2.03 	58.5 	0 	1 	0
ODIs 	80 	77 	3773 	2907 	95 	5/36 	5/36 	30.60 	4.62 	39.7 	3 	1 	0
First-class 	48 	81 	11025 	4400 	171 	7/31 	10/65 	25.73 	2.39 	64.4 	8 	11 	2
List A 	120 	115 	5601 	4173 	150 	5/36 	5/36 	27.82 	4.47 	37.3 	6 	1 	0

jadeja clearly has the better bowling avg
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Sour grapes? lol Your domestic structure is weak. Even Bangladesh batsman can smack your bowlers all over the ground. Jadeja test bowling average will increase once he plays more tests.

But the T20 ones just shows how much of a joke batsman take Jadeja. Take him on and he gets smacked just like his stats show so really no skill. In the longer forms, batsman just make him look good. Real spinners also have good T20 records tough luck!
 
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amit said:
:))) @ u comparing them in t20

at real formats,

shakib -

Code: 
Tests 	30 	50 	7242 	3476 	106 	7/36 	9/115 	32.79 	2.87 	68.3 	4 	9 	0
ODIs 	129 	128 	6578 	4729 	161 	4/16 	4/16 	29.37 	4.31 	40.8 	4 	0 	0
First-class 	65 		13296 	6202 	205 	7/32 		30.25 	2.79 	64.8 	6 	14 	0
List A 	156 	154 	7693 	5481 	190 	4/16 	4/16 	28.84 	4.27 	40.4 	7 	0 	0

jadeja -

Code: 
Tests 	5 	10 	1580 	536 	27 	5/58 	7/98 	19.85 	2.03 	58.5 	0 	1 	0
ODIs 	80 	77 	3773 	2907 	95 	5/36 	5/36 	30.60 	4.62 	39.7 	3 	1 	0
First-class 	48 	81 	11025 	4400 	171 	7/31 	10/65 	25.73 	2.39 	64.4 	8 	11 	2
List A 	120 	115 	5601 	4173 	150 	5/36 	5/36 	27.82 	4.47 	37.3 	6 	1 	0

jadeja clearly has the better bowling avg
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Are comparing them in tests :facepalm:

JAdeja has played only 5 tests against very weak Aussie team
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
Ravindra Jadeja no doubt, has a fantastic Test record. The guy is class.

Took a fiver when it mattered during Champions Trophy.

Ran out Peterson when South Africa were cruising, a certain candidate for player of the tournament in Champions Trophy.
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Jadeja's test Record is basically record of one series

I dont think he will be a world-class test All-rounder
 
Shakib is better, atm Jadeja is just going through good form.
 
Energetic said:
Sour grapes? lol Your domestic structure is weak. Even Bangladesh batsman can smack your bowlers all over the ground. Jadeja test bowling average will increase once he plays more tests.

But the T20 ones just shows how much of a joke batsman take Jadeja. Take him on and he gets smacked just like his stats show so really no skill. In the longer forms, batsman just make him look good. Real spinners also have good T20 records tough luck!
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a bangladeshi fan talking about poor domestic structure of india.tells about what world has come to.
 
Re: Shakib Al Hassan vs Sir Ravindra Jadeja

Can't compare a talented human to a cyborg sent from 2099 AD
 
amit said:
this thread has become a joke now. jadeja is far better by miles

jadeja takes 5/36 today and took 3/6 when windies were looking to take the game away around the 20th over
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who told you that? sakib is far better quality player than your so called jadeja. no wonder sakib is
world number one all rounder and its on paper any doubt??
 
In ODIs, only against the top 8 teams, following is the stats. Now tell me who is better


RA Jadeja
Span________Mat__Runs____HS__Bat Av____100_Wkts__BBI___Bowl Av___5___Ct_ St
2009-2013____69___1063____78__29.52_____0___84__5/36____30.11___1___25__0

SA Hassan
Span________Mat__Runs____HS__Bat Av____100_Wkts__BBI___Bowl Av___5___Ct_ St
2006-2012___75__2079____108__30.57_____2___85__4/16_____34.31___0___23__0
 
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Jadeja has improved a lot, but i'd still take Shakib
 
Shakib is a better batsman than Jadeja by a huge margin. However their bowling is comparable - none of them is special.
 
The problem with Jadeja is that apart from his purple patch in 2013, he has been very ordinary. He is not good enough to bat at no.7

Binny is surely better, no?
 
Shakib has always been better

He is world class and has been for a 5-6 year period now
 
Four years later...where does this comparison stand?

I think it has tilted in Jaddu's favor by a distance!
 
Shakib is a much better batsman. As a bowler Shakib is better in LOIs, jaddu better performer in tests tho.
 
IgnitedMind said:
Four years later...where does this comparison stand?

I think it has tilted in Jaddu's favor by a distance!
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In tests it's a tie. In ODIs Shakib is lightyears ahead, Jadeja is still a tailender while Shakib is easily top 3 batsman for BDesh
 
BaankeJi said:
What is their statistics in last 2 years? Home and away.
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Shakib
Test
Bat avg- 42.83, Bowling avg- 29
ODI
Bat avg- 32.47, Bowling avg- 52.20

Jadeja
Test
Bat avg- 39.05, Bowling avg- 23.72
ODI
Bat avg- 22.00, Bowling avg- 67.09
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Shakib
Test
Bat avg- 42.83, Bowling avg- 29
ODI
Bat avg- 32.47, Bowling avg- 52.20

Jadeja
Test
Bat avg- 39.05, Bowling avg- 23.72
ODI
Bat avg- 22.00, Bowling avg- 67.09
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Thanks Joseph. Bases on those stats, Jadeja is ahead in Tests. Shakib is ahead in ODIs.

But judging based on just stats has its risks.
Based on what I have seen, I would take Shakib over Jadeja if I have to choose between them in all formats.

Jadeja despite huge batting potential, hasn't converted it to performance. If Jadeja's batting improves, then he can give tough fight to Shakib. Till then, it is Shakib for me.
 
Shakib is better at everything except fielding and Test bowling.
 
Shakib in LO and as a batsmen in tests. Jadeja is the better test bowler out of the 2.
 
BaankeJi said:
You are just drawing a conclusion from stats.
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I am not interested in stats. You don't need them if you are watching the game.

I will stick to what I said - Jadeja is a better Test spinner than Shakib and a better fielder, but that is where it ends. Shakib trumps him on other fronts.
 
Jadeja is a bowling all-rounder.

Shakib I will pick overall though but Jadeja gives you a lot extra with his fielding ability.

In LOs, given their batting position is 6 or 7, I would prefer an attacking all-rounder rather than these two.
 
Jadeja is a top cricketer. Potentially a better test bolwer than Shakib.

But Shakib is the best all rounder of this decade.

No comparison.
 
Oligochaetes said:
:mns Even prt timers will have better averages than these
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Yeah I was looking through the stats and finger spinners have had a torrid time in the last 2 years.

Apart from Axar (25.6), Maharaj (27.6) and Santner (37.8) not a single finger spinner averages less than 40. Many of them are averaging over 60!

No wonder teams are turning to wrist spinners.
 
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