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Should cricket grounds all be the same size?

jnaveen1980 said:
Ground is same for both sides. NZ grounds smaller. Have you seen Trentbridge. ? There are so many grounds are similar sized grounds. Not every ground i
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Honestly I played in much bigger grounds when I played club cricket compared to some of the international grounds these days.

Absolutely ridiculous.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
55m six is a joke tbh.
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Boundary are counted from the centre but broadcasting will show from the playing crease. The men’s ODI playing conditions all over the world, except Auckland, are same. The minimum requirement is 59.43 meters (from the center of the pitch). Indore meets that requirement too. The TV graphic shows the boundaries from the crease. From the center, it will be 59+ meters.
 
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Saj said:
Honestly I played in much bigger grounds when I played club cricket compared to some of the international grounds these days.

Absolutely ridiculous.
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Indore is always like this. Similar to Eden Park. But more than the ground it is the pitch the determines it. Modi stadium is a massive stadium with long boundaries. But that was the no.1 high scoring venue with so many sixes. Stadiums like Wanderers despite having 86 meter straight boundary and 64 meter side boundary is a high scoring venue as it is a high altitude venue. Trivandrum is not a big ground. But teams struggle against swing bowling there.
 
Devadwal said:
Boundary are counted from the centre but broadcasting will show from the playing crease. The men’s ODI playing conditions all over the world, except Auckland, are same. The minimum requirement is 59.43 meters (from the center of the pitch). Indore meets that requirement too. The TV graphic shows the boundaries from the crease. From the center, it will be 59+ meters.
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This is absolutely correct.
 
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Devadwal said:
Boundary are counted from the centre but broadcasting will show from the playing crease. The men’s ODI playing conditions all over the world, except Auckland, are same. The minimum requirement is 59.43 meters (from the center of the pitch). Indore meets that requirement too. The TV graphic shows the boundaries from the crease. From the center, it will be 59+ meters.
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And?

It's still tiny and ridiculous.

It doesn't matter where it is - India, Pakistan or The Moon.
 
Grounds have been small for decades except some big grounds. Indore is always a high scoring venue. Viru made 219. Australia with better batting depth should have made a dash at it.
 
Saj said:
And?

It's still tiny and ridiculous.

It doesn't matter where it is - India, Pakistan or The Moon.
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So, what's your suggestion? What should be the minimum boundary size? 70 m at least?
 
It's not necessary for all boundaries to be of the same size but ICC should establish a standard that ensures boundaries should not be smaller than this specific range.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
It's not necessary for all boundaries to be of the same size but ICC should establish a standard that ensures boundaries should not be smaller than this specific range.
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iCC already gave the instructions to BCCI that in world cup every ground boundary should not be smaller than 70m
 
Cricket Warrior said:
This is good thing otherwise the match can become too one sided in favor of the team with a strong batting lineup.
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Yes this is one of reason why spinners will get more success .also no cricket played in these pitches, starting of the season so fast bowlers will have a lot of upper hand in most of the surfaces. It's even contest where 1st innings avarage total will be around 280 .
 
Its good that boundaries size are different but thier should be a minimum size.
 
Ground size does not matter in high preassure world cups. 1996 quarterfinal PAK lost in a small chinnaswamy ground. India lost so badly in eden gardens which is a small ground too. 2019 ind vs nz, india lost in a relatively small ground.
 
A standardised ground doesn't necessarily mean that all the fields have to have the exact same dimensions but it would be useful to set a minimum and maximum.

I don't think any boundary in any international stadium should fall below 65m. The upper limit could be set at 100m but no one would be pushing boundaries out that far.
 
In international matches there should be a limit of minimum and maximum size of the boundary. This could be different for each format but it doesn't seem fair to have a 55meter boundary in one match and then a 80meter boundary in another match.
 
You cannot have a standard size for boundaries, it is not possible. Because there are multiple pitches, so rope has to be adjusted, plus where boudaries are big, the pitch has more bounce, so its equates. Where boundaries are small, the pitch has low bounce and its hard to strike the ball
 
MenInG said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1705977093140652492
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This guy is the most Shameless ex cricketer I've ever seen. Literally a troll, has no dignity or self respect.

As for this series, 2007 WC, Aussies lost 0-3 to NZ a month before the tournament... Then went on to win the WC, undefeated and unchallenged. They are like "Jeet lo baccho, Khush ho jao, hum apna game time aane pe batayenge..."

I'm not underestimating India either nor South Africa, of course we are amongst the top 3 favts to win the title, probably the favt, RSA are also a tough side, but it won't be east, no game will be easy... It's going to be close and we've got to respect our opponents... Not to behave like this shameless and arrogant troll.
 
sam_ahm said:
This guy is the most Shameless ex cricketer I've ever seen. Literally a troll, has no dignity or self respect.

As for this series, 2007 WC, Aussies lost 0-3 to NZ a month before the tournament... Then went on to win the WC, undefeated and unchallenged. They are like "Jeet lo baccho, Khush ho jao, hum apna game time aane pe batayenge..."

I'm not underestimating India either nor South Africa, of course we are amongst the top 3 favts to win the title, probably the favt, RSA are also a tough side, but it won't be east, no game will be easy... It's going to be close and we've got to respect our opponents... Not to behave like this shameless and arrogant troll.
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I don't understand your post at all. But what exactly did Irfan do to raise your ire so much? That tweet was in response to those who were undermining India's 399 by calling it a small ground when no other team has managed to score big here?

As for the trolling part, it's social media. What exactly did he do that was so offensive? How is he more shameless than Michael Vaughan or Akhtar or KP or many other ex-cricketer trolls on twitter? And what does RSA have anything to do with this?
 
Nikhil_cric said:
I don't understand your post at all. But what exactly did Irfan do to raise your ire so much? That tweet was in response to those who were undermining India's 399 by calling it a small ground when no other team has managed to score big here?

As for the trolling part, it's social media. What exactly did he do that was so offensive? How is he more shameless than Michael Vaughan or Akhtar or KP or many other ex-cricketer trolls on twitter? And what does RSA have anything to do with this?
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I'm saying based on his tweets in general. He mocks opposition and doesn't behave like an ex-cricketer, he behaves like a troll. His above tweet is also unnecessary... It was a flat track with small boundaries, that is a fact. India bowled better and Aussies had no answers, that's a different story... Also the ball started turning quite a bit in the 2nd innings.

My reference to RSA is irrelevant, I agree, what I meant is that Aussies might have lost 3 straight games to proteas and now to India, but their real game will begin on Oct 8th.

And yup, Vaughan and Jaffer are equally shameless.
 
sam_ahm said:
I'm saying based on his tweets in general. He mocks opposition and doesn't behave like an ex-cricketer, he behaves like a troll. His above tweet is also unnecessary... It was a flat track with small boundaries, that is a fact. India bowled better and Aussies had no answers, that's a different story... Also the ball started turning quite a bit in the 2nd innings.

My reference to RSA is irrelevant, I agree, what I meant is that Aussies might have lost 3 straight games to proteas and now to India, but their real game will begin on Oct 8th.

And yup, Vaughan and Jaffer are equally shameless.
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These things happen a lot everywhere. FoxSports and ex Aussie cricketers were losing their minds over the pitch for the 1st Test in India which was allegedly prepared to trouble left-handers and then it turned out that Axar was batting easily on that track and the pacers removed their left handers.

Trolling and counter-trolling is part of the Twitter space. Why take it so seriously? He was hardly abusive?
 
I have noticed that the grounds in this World Cup on which India will play have notably small boundaries.
 
Babar Azam regarding boundary sizes:

We have played two games till now and the conditions in India are similar to what we have in Pakistan. The only difference is that the boundaries are shorter here, so batsman can take advantage if bowlers deviate from their line.
 
Wasim Akram regarding boundary sizes:


“The wickets look unbelievably flat. 340, 350 is a par score,”

“I hate when the boundaries are 60 meters and short. It’s not fun. It’s really not fun for me to watch.”

“It’s getting boring.”
 
Modi stadium has a side boundary that is 76 meter. That is fairly a large boundary. Straight boundary is 76 meter same as MCG.
 
Mesozoic said:
Yes they do . Football, rugby, hockey, baseball, tennis all these have a fixed dimensions that every ground/venue adheres to.

They can always renovate the grounds you've mentioned.
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those are sports that all have a very rigidly defined scoring area. A goal, or goalpost, or endzone. Cricket permits scoring in 360 degrees. at times the game is not played in the geometric center of the field if played on a side pitch. Additionally, the grounds are not all level and some fields have a grade to them.

there is nothing fundamental to the game that would be improved by uniform, inflexible field sizes. if anything it brings variety and tests skills.

if by the argument that there must be uniformity in the dimensions, why not identical pitches? or weather patterns? or wind vectors?
 
MenInG said:
Wasim Akram regarding boundary sizes:


“The wickets look unbelievably flat. 340, 350 is a par score,”

“I hate when the boundaries are 60 meters and short. It’s not fun. It’s really not fun for me to watch.”

“It’s getting boring.”
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Yes we were all bored to watch Pakistan smashing 450 against Netherlands today.
 
So who's telling MCC they need to expand their boundaries and MCG they need to bring in theirs and telling Kiwis they need to build something bigger than a sheep pen?
 
Mesozoic said:
Yes they do . Football, rugby, hockey, baseball, tennis all these have a fixed dimensions that every ground/venue adheres to.

They can always renovate the grounds you've mentioned.
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Can't speak for hockey and tennis but in all the other sports mentioned here there's a range of accepted pitch/field dimensions, just like cricket boundary lengths.
 
MenInG said:
Wasim Akram regarding boundary sizes:


“The wickets look unbelievably flat. 340, 350 is a par score,”

“I hate when the boundaries are 60 meters and short. It’s not fun. It’s really not fun for me to watch.”

“It’s getting boring.”
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As if NSK boundaries are that big with ropes pulled in.

The only difference is that Indian outfields are faster and our pitches are skiddier which enables fast scoring .
 
I wonder if there is any other sport where the playing area and dimensions aren't standardized.


Like isn't it unfair that the same shot would be a six in India/Pakistan but might fall in no man's land and result in 2 runs or get caught well within the boundary line in Australia.
 
Syed1 said:
I wonder if there is any other sport where the playing area and dimensions aren't standardized.


Like isn't it unfair that the same shot would be a six in India/Pakistan but might fall in no man's land and result in 2 runs or get caught well within the boundary line in Australia.
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I agree.

It is unfair that a top edge can go for six at Eden Park, Auckland while a clean hit can result in a wicket at MCG.

Cricket needs to be revamped. Some of the unfair stuffs need to be changed.
 
Boundary length is big for lot of stadiums. They pull the rope in like they do in Australia, England. In 2019 if i remember right they pulled the rope well in.

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Australia, ENgland ( few of them), NZ (couple of them) have big stadium. But boundaries are generally adjusted.

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I guess No. Conditions are all different in each country so having a same size will not be suited to each ground IMO.
 
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These are the boundary dimensions in today's Match between India and Australia in chennai. Not a huge one to be honest. Straight is okaish.
 
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Boundary dimensions for today's match between Pakistan and India of the ICC World Cup 2023.This will provide a lot of entertainment for the 1 lac plus crowd.
 
Ground dimensions for today's Match between Pakistan and New Zealand.

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hassan918 said:
These boundaries were certainly not big enough for Fakhar, even we saw two sixes from Babar who doesn't hit sixes.
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Nothing to do with boundary size. Ball travels faster on this ground even mistimed sixes sometiems hit the roof. Faf Du plessi this year IPL hit a 115 meter six. That is the longest ever recorded here
 
There should be a comparison as to what the ground dimensions were in the 80s 90s and 2000s. Also variety has to be there - a uniform cricket ground size will be boring. Crucially it's the same for both teams...
 
deltexas said:
There should be a comparison as to what the ground dimensions were in the 80s 90s and 2000s. Also variety has to be there - a uniform cricket ground size will be boring. Crucially it's the same for both teams...
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A six at MCG and a six at Auckland, New Zealand shouldn't be same.

I think uniform cricket ground makes things fairer.
 
sweep_shot said:
A six at MCG and a six at Auckland, New Zealand shouldn't be same.

I think uniform cricket ground makes things fairer.
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Cricket is a game of challenges with different conditions and pitches. The ground size is the same for both teams.. you have to be able to adapt to different situations. That's why the suggestion that for tests - the pitches should be uniform also makes the game boring. Variety is the spice of life. In ind you want turning tracks, in aus and sa cin music, in eng seam and swing etc -- teams have to be able to adapt.. that's what makes the game of cricket different to other sports
 
sweep_shot said:
A six at MCG and a six at Auckland, New Zealand shouldn't be same.

I think uniform cricket ground makes things fairer.
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But what I agree on is that there should be minimum sizes.. and also with no limit on the maximum. So say if a ground wants to have 95m all over - am actually ok with it.. tests the skill level of both the teams..
 
Boundary dimensions for today's match between Pakistan and England in the ICC World Cup 2023.


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Really hate grounds with less than 80m boundaries.

A spinner who bowls a ball filled with deceit, guile and skill - could have deceived a batsman in flight and have him caught at long on or long off only for the ball to sail over the 59m boundary and commentators instead of praising the wit of the bowler are forced to praise the failure of the batsman. And you can think of similar scenarios with fast bowlers whose perfectly bowled bouncers disappear over the 55m ropes for a grand sixes instead of fetching deserving wickets.

Really hate small boundaries with gusto.
 
Fakhar Zaman in his pre game presser before the 1st T20I vs NZ:

About short boundaries at Eden Park:

“In cricket, I think we need to adapt to the conditions. If the wicket plays well, then it is really easy to score runs, especially on short boundaries. In 2018, I played a game here that was high scoring, and the history of this ground is similar. So, we are really looking forward to playing here.”
 
Ideally yes, but if not their should be a standard, and boundaries should be decent good size, no more of this 55 meters to 65 meters nonesense
 
stani_pak said:
Ideally yes, but if not their should be a standard, and boundaries should be decent good size, no more of this 55 meters to 65 meters nonesense
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There is a standard currently. There is a range.

But, I personally think this range is too big. It needs to be shortened if same size is not possible.
 
During the 1st T20 match today between Pakistan and New Zealand, the straight boundary in Auckland measures just 47 meters, which is significantly shorter than the standard playing conditions for Men’s T20Is. This ground is exempt from these conditions because it gained international status prior to the introduction of the current rules.​
 
Ravichandran Ashwin Ashwin said during a promotional event for his IPL team Rajasthan Royals:

"The stadiums built back in the day are not relevant in the modern day. The bats that were used back then were also used for gully cricket. With LED boards of the sponsors being used, the boundary has come in by 10 yards."

"If you look at the Industrial rate , we have gone for less. We defended 180 in Jaipur in one game which was huge."

"But you are certainly marvelled at ball-striking. At the end of the day spectators come to watch fours and sixes."
 
There can be minor variations in boundary lengths across stadiums. In Australia boundary lengths can be bit longer because of the bounce in the pitches and the speed at which ball moves off the bat... In NZ it can be bit small, because already there's lot of help for swing bowlers and batsmen should get value for shots whenever it comes out... In SA the boundary line is at medium level with fast outfield which again helps batsmen when he gets right (as the pitches are hard with lots of seam movement). In India there are variety of stadiums with different boundary sizes which offers batsmen/bowlers in different ways as they travel across (India doesn't fix 5-6 stadiums for international matches like SENA...)

So in all means I think the variations in boundary sizes across the world is fair enough... We need the variety... Cricket is a game which demands your adaptability to various conditions, it is such kind of game...
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
Though desirable , its not happening. ICC lacks the resolve to do it.
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It is impossible. You will have to stop hosting matches in certain grounds. It has financial and logistical reasons. These small grounds are not new. NZ ground size has not suddenly shrunk. Been that way for decades. Both teams play on the same ground. End of story.
 
sweep_shot said:
They should make it longer. I agree.

I think all cricket grounds should have same boundary lengths. Otherwise, it becomes unfair.
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You don't want the oldies to run too much to chase balls - all sorts of medical issues and don't think organizers are setup for medical insurance.
 
ICC tournaments should have standardized playing conditions and ground sizes ideally. Otherwise it will provide unfair advantage to certain teams.

But pitch is not an exact science and weather can't be controlled.

But at very minimum , boundary sizes can be controlled. In an Era where NRR is crucial in determining knockout positions one team getting to play vs a minnow on a postage ground stadium can be an unfair advantage.
 
Shorter boundaries are fine for the Legend League. Not for international matches. I think boundaries should be a minimum of 70m, nothing less than that all around the park.
 
MenInG said:
You don't want the oldies to run too much to chase balls - all sorts of medical issues and don't think organizers are setup for medical insurance.
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Good point.

Some of the guys are really out of shape.
 
At least there should be minimum standard for International cricket and regular leagues featuring current players eg. No boundary size smaller than 70m.
 
Back in 90s grounds down under and Caribbean had long boundaries and even scores like 200 were competitive but the advent of T20 has diluted the charm
 
Kianig89 said:
Back in 90s grounds down under and Caribbean had long boundaries and even scores like 200 were competitive but the advent of T20 has diluted the charm
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I miss old 90's Caribbean grounds. Current Caribbean grounds seem boring.
 
Short Answer: No.

As someone has already mentioned, vareity of ground sizes and shapes is what makes the matches fun.

However, I am definitely in the camp of bigger boundary sizes. Some grounds/stadia can easily have 100m boundaries, which would be great fun, seeing both batsmen and fielders running and scampering around respectively.
 
Should they. Yes.
Can they no.

Even football fields are not of same dimensions. They’re all different from each other. At end of the day both teams have the same advantage.
 
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