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Dimensions of cricket grounds vary worldwide. Some grounds are ridiculously small while some are massive. Do you think that cricket grounds should all have same size?

I personally feel that same size will make things fair and it is why I support it.

Discuss.
 
Yes definitely. Every sport has a certain ground dimensions that are universal but cricket does not.

Every ground must be 75 M radius so that even mis hits won't go into the stands.
 
sweep_shot said:
Dimensions of cricket grounds vary worldwide. Some grounds are ridiculously small while some are massive. Do you think that cricket grounds should all have same size?

I personally feel that same size will make things fair and it is why I support it.

Discuss.
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would be nice, but even in MLB grounds length varies
 
No.Cricket's main attraction is variety of playing conditions in every country
 
No. Whether the match is played with boundaries 90+ metres, or only 60 metres, the boundary size is the same for both teams.
 
HitWicket said:
No they don't.



And what about all the major grounds that can't meet those requirements? Are you really banning the likes of Lords and half the grounds in NZ?
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Yes they do . Football, rugby, hockey, baseball, tennis all these have a fixed dimensions that every ground/venue adheres to.

They can always renovate the grounds you've mentioned.
 
aloo paratha said:
No. Whether the match is played with boundaries 90+ metres, or only 60 metres, the boundary size is the same for both teams.
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It is same for both teams but it becomes unfair when it comes to statistics.

For example, players may hit a huge amount of sixes on a small ground and thus inflating their stats. It is not fair for teams who play on bigger grounds.
 
That's impossible and unrealistic.

There should be a minimum for boundary lengths though.
 
HitWicket said:
No they don't.



And what about all the major grounds that can't meet those requirements? Are you really banning the likes of Lords and half the grounds in NZ?
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Eden Park and some parts of Sky stadium are less than that, the new grounds like Hagley and Bay Oval are big grounds.
 
I don't see what this would accomplish. And if your response is to create consistency - then start with the pitches first. Should pitch conditions be identical in every ground as well?
 
Mesozoic said:
Yes they do . Football, rugby, hockey, baseball, tennis all these have a fixed dimensions that every ground/venue adheres to.

They can always renovate the grounds you've mentioned.
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I don't know about the rest but can tell you now that football and rugby don't have fixed dimensions.

Who's going to pay the billions required across the globe required to renovate/completely move these stadiums?
 
Aman said:
Eden Park and some parts of Sky stadium are less than that, the new grounds like Hagley and Bay Oval are big grounds.
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Hagley Oval would be the only major ground in New Zealand that would meet the user I quoted's requirements and even then only just with only 1 wicket suitable for international cricket.
 
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HitWicket said:
I don't know about the rest but can tell you now that football and rugby don't have fixed dimensions.

Who's going to pay the billions required across the globe required to renovate/completely move these stadiums?
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Renovating whole stadium makes no sense. However, pushing the boundary rope further is doable.

I personally would love to see 80 meters boundary (fixed for every ground).
 
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85 to 90 meters should be minimum. Also crowd should not be sitting mile from the boundary line. A problem in every pak stadium
 
HitWicket said:
I don't know about the rest but can tell you now that football and rugby don't have fixed dimensions.

Who's going to pay the billions required across the globe required to renovate/completely move these stadiums?
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hitthestump said:
No they don't.
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Apologies. I stand corrected. Although they are not exactly the same size, football and rugby grounds follow a certain rules where you must have a min & max width and length. Don't think there's any such rule in cricket.
 
The beauty of cricket is seeing the game played at differing venues around the world, but what I don't like seeing are boundaries that are tiny and around the 60m mark.
 
Saj said:
The beauty of cricket is seeing the game played at differing venues around the world, but what I don't like seeing are boundaries that are tiny and around the 60m mark.
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Some grounds have boundaries that are less than 60 meters. It is a complete farce.

All boundaries should be at least 80 meters long on each side.
 
sweep_shot said:
Some grounds have boundaries that are less than 60 meters. It is a complete farce.

All boundaries should be at least 80 meters long on each side.
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The horrible sight of a batsman being beaten all ends up by a bouncer and top-edging it for 6.
 
Personally yes or have a better standard but I do enjoy watching cricket when it's played in new zeland with the small boundaries but I would still say yes
 
Maybe they should make it a rule that if a new cricket ground is being built then the dimensions boundaries must be at least 70m on all parts in front of square.

But already existing small grounds like Eden park should remain. Eden Park has produced some classics and nail biters. Almost everytime I go there it's a really good game.
 
I think the minimum boundary size should be 70 meters, exceptions for smaller grounds that are already built like eden park, and max should be 85 meters.

I could not understand why the boundary in PSL was so small.
 
sweep_shot said:
Renovating whole stadium makes no sense. However, pushing the boundary rope further is doable.

I personally would love to see 80 meters boundary (fixed for every ground).
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Most grounds in the world cannot accommodate 80m boundaries.
 
As others have said, the beauty of cricket is that conditions across the world are not the same and you have to adapt to the situation.

What's next? All pitches should be the same?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Surely an international ground anywhere in the world should have bigger boundaries than 55 metres <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/INDvSA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#INDvSA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/ID4hd1VJlw">pic.twitter.com/ID4hd1VJlw</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1577307563409956864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2022</a></blockquote>
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MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Surely an international ground anywhere in the world should have bigger boundaries than 55 metres <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/INDvSA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#INDvSA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/ID4hd1VJlw">pic.twitter.com/ID4hd1VJlw</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1577307563409956864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2022</a></blockquote>
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75m sixes are disapearing in the crowd in India. That's so poor to watch, no value for good bowling.
 
I would love to see Shan Masood bat on these grounds in India
 
Rana said:
I would love to see Shan Masood bat on these grounds in India
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There are threads for Shan Masood. Here the thread is for ground sizes and rater than saying that these grounds are pathetics you are still picking on Shan Masood.
 
Mobashir said:
There are threads for Shan Masood. Here the thread is for ground sizes and rater than saying that these grounds are pathetics you are still picking on Shan Masood.
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This is a valid thread for a valid question

Can Babar, Shan Masood and our players clear these boundaries against International standard bowlers?

I’m not too sure they can
 
Not necessarily. NZ hosts multiple sporst on the same ground. So sometimes they are smaller.
 
Joke of a ground....90m hit lands on the roof and goes out of park.

We see the same in NZ.
 
Ideally cricket grounds should have minimum 75-80m boundaries

Problem is many of these grounds were built 20-30 years back when sixes were less common and bats were smaller in size. Difficult to increase boundary size of such grounds now. You have to demolish the whole stadium and rebuilt from scratch
 
Its similar to how Tiger Woods made golf courses look smaller 25 years back due to his massive golf swing. That led to organizers extending the length of golf courses as modern day golfers armed with powerful golf clubs started smashing it much further than before
 
This ground is too small...no intl matches should be played here ..but i like the old australian world series games with a bigger boundaries and slow outfield
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Surely an international ground anywhere in the world should have bigger boundaries than 55 metres <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/INDvSA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#INDvSA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/ID4hd1VJlw">pic.twitter.com/ID4hd1VJlw</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1577307563409956864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2022</a></blockquote>
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And back to the same venue (Indore) with slight adjustments for the Ind v NZ 3rd ODI:

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grounds shouldn't have same size, but the minimum dimensions should be increased by ICC. i think currently the minimum is 60m for the square and 63-64m down straight, from the striking batsman. 65 square & 70 straight should be a strict minimum. can have unique dimensions above those minimum at different venues to have uniqueness. this indore stadium is a joke. and in other stadium the organisers who pull the boundaries IN, resulting in small boundaries, should be given a kick on their back.
 
54 m is ridiculous to say the least.
A 70 or 75 m boundary should be minimum as it ll allow clear hits to be spearated from these mistimed shots which deserve to be caught and not awarded 6 runs.
 
Mobashir said:
75m sixes are disapearing in the crowd in India. That's so poor to watch, no value for good bowling.
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Pakistan would still struggle to score 350 against the same bowling attack, let alone near 400 like India did earlier today.

When I watch Babar and Shan Masood attempt to hit sixes, you know what comes to mind -"Where is the strentttt?"
 
Hyder said:
54 m is ridiculous to say the least.
A 70 or 75 m boundary should be minimum as it ll allow clear hits to be spearated from these mistimed shots which deserve to be caught and not awarded 6 runs.
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Karachi national stadium has 54 meter boundary SA/NZ/England/Pakistan all countries have very short corner boundary.

karachi stadium

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Indore ground is a ODI match ground. Check out the Raipur ground. Straight boundary is longer than MCG. Side boundary is around 75 meter
 
I wonder how small the boundary size needs to be for Shan Masood to hit a six.

Possibly 50 metres? But his arms might hurt and have to end up retiring hurt from the innings so that's probably pushing it. Perhaps 45 metres I'd say.

But I'm certain he can clear a 40 metre boundary for sure without retiring hurt.
 
topspin said:
I wonder how small the boundary size needs to be for Shan Masood to hit a six.

Possibly 50 metres? But his arms might hurt and have to end up retiring hurt from the innings so that's probably pushing it. Perhaps 45 metres I'd say.

But I'm certain he can clear a 40 metre boundary for sure without retiring hurt.
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Masood’s back lift load up dancing down the track is longer than Lara’s

He can definitely clear 50 meter boundaries
 
raipur stadium which hosted 2nd INDvNZ ODI had large outfield. it is the today's indore stadium which is a joke.
so generic statements like 75m disappearing into crowd in india is misleading. depends on the stadium, which is why ICC should increase minimum limits.
 
Front Foot Pull said:
raipur stadium which hosted 2nd INDvNZ ODI had large outfield. it is the today's indore stadium which is a joke.
so generic statements like 75m disappearing into crowd in india is misleading. depends on the stadium, which is why ICC should increase minimum limits.
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Some of the stadiums cannot be rebuilt. South African grounds are smaller too, NZ are pocket sized. Some England grounds are also smaller. Trent bridge has like 50 meter boundary in one corner.
 
There should be a minimum size standard but many old cricket stadium or multi purpose stadiums can't adhere to these standards.

To be honest, the stadium is same for both teams. The par score automatically become higher.

Indore is traditionally 350 score par and India got 385 today.
 
deep82 said:
There should be a minimum size standard but many old cricket stadium or multi purpose stadiums can't adhere to these standards.

To be honest, the stadium is same for both teams. The par score automatically become higher.

Indore is traditionally 350 score par and India got 385 today.
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Yup that is the thing Stadium is the same for both. West Indians have monster hitters. Even mishits trave. You think they will win here? No way.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Karachi national stadium has 54 meter boundary SA/NZ/England/Pakistan all countries have very short corner boundary.

karachi stadium

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[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] Bro, these are almost exactly the same as Indore. Difference is Indore had more pace in the pitch and the outfield is quicker. Hence, faster scoring than Karachi
 
deep82 said:
There should be a minimum size standard but many old cricket stadium or multi purpose stadiums can't adhere to these standards.

To be honest, the stadium is same for both teams. The par score automatically become higher.

Indore is traditionally 350 score par and India got 385 today.
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350 is not par on this pitch. Atleast not historically. In 12 ODI innings, there have been only 2 instances of 300 + being scored. Both were scored by India while batting first.

Maybe 350 was par today but not so always. I think people are extrapolating based on T20 scores on this pitch.
 
deep82 said:
There should be a minimum size standard but many old cricket stadium or multi purpose stadiums can't adhere to these standards.

To be honest, the stadium is same for both teams. The par score automatically become higher.

Indore is traditionally 350 score par and India got 385 today.
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350 is not par on this pitch. Atleast not historically. In 12 ODI innings, there have been only 2 instances of 300 + being scored. Both were scored by India while batting first.

Maybe 350 was par today but not so always. I think people are extrapolating based on T20 scores on this pitch.
 
This is defference between cricket and other sports.
This game is metaphor of life.
No day is same.
No situation is same.
You can be lucky and succeed.
You may work hard and fail.
Just like life it can be unfair.
That's why we love it.
You want set conditions??
I suggest Ping-pong.
 
This is difference between cricket and other sports.
This game is metaphor of life.
No day is same.
No situation is same.
You can be lucky and succeed.
You may work hard and fail.
Just like life it can be unfair.
That's why we love it.
You want set conditions??
I suggest Ping-pong.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Some of the stadiums cannot be rebuilt. South African grounds are smaller too, NZ are pocket sized. Some England grounds are also smaller. Trent bridge has like 50 meter boundary in one corner.
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i know but we can't keep playing in mini parks. have to think about a solution. should at least think.
 
people unaware of the limit. there are already minimum boundary size limits but they are very less and old international stadiums are exempted. here are the laws about boundaries from ICC ODI playing conditions.

19.1 Determining the boundary of the field of play

19.1.1 Before the toss, the umpires shall determine the boundary of the field of play, which shall be fixed for the
duration of the match. See clause 2.3.42 (Consultation with Home Board).
19.1.2 The boundary shall be determined such that no part of any sight-screen, will, at any stage of the match, be
within the field of play.
19.1.3 The aim shall be to maximize the size of the playing area at each venue. With respect to the size of the
boundaries, no boundary shall be longer than 90 yards (82.29 meters), and no boundary should be shorter
than 65 yards (59.43 metres) from the centre of the pitch to be used.
19.1.4 At all times, there must be 3 yards (2.74 meters) from the boundary rope to the first solid object (advertising
boards/LEDs, photographers, cameramen, dug outs, covers, perimeter fence) for the player’s safety run off.
19.1.5 If the boundary is positioned less than 90 yards (82.29 meters) from the centre of the pitch, the boundary
rope cannot be set at a distance of more than 10 yards (9.14 meters) from the perimeter fence. The 10
yards shall be inclusive of the 3 yards (2.74 meters) provided for the player’s safety run off.
19.1.6 Any ground which has previously been approved to host international cricket which is unable to conform to
the minimum boundary dimension shall be exempt. In such cases the boundary shall be positioned so as to
maximize the size of the playing area
 
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Front Foot Pull said:
i know but we can't keep playing in mini parks. have to think about a solution. should at least think.
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Batting has come a long way. Boundary sizes are not the reason. Only last year MCG saw the highest ODI score ever. Australia made 355/5.

In 2000s ATG Australian side scored at a rate of 5.27 in Australia
In 2010 Australia scored at a rate of 5.66
In 2020 Australia has scored at a rate of 5.93

Grounds are not the reason. With so many leagues springing up, T20 spreading its wing approach has changed big time. Even in Tests they are scoring at 5, 6. India has a purpose to hold matches in small towns. They cannot travel to big towns and watch matches. Indore stadium supposedly a smallish ground is on par with Karachi stadium. Look at Eden Park in NZ. It was always like a backyard from time immemorial.

At the end of the day both sides play on the same ground.
 
Obviously min boundary requirements make sense. Aside from that however an element of the beauty of cricket is that ground dimensions vary and players must adapt. Let’s not turn into into something as regimented as baseball.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Karachi national stadium has 54 meter boundary SA/NZ/England/Pakistan all countries have very short corner boundary.

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Nikhil_cric said:
[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] Bro, these are almost exactly the same as Indore. Difference is Indore had more pace in the pitch and the outfield is quicker. Hence, faster scoring than Karachi
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Karachi's national stadium is big.

The boundaries are made smaller for PSL mostly. And this is done for security reasons. There is big enoughgap between the fence and the boundary rope.
 
Sharjah cricket ground -dimensions

I'm very curious as a lot of odi matches and lately 20 20 cricket has been played at Sharjah. I loved the Sharjah cup.

How big are the straight and square boundaries in metres.

From my Google research:

-straight either side: 58 metres
-long on: 62 metres
-square: 60 metres, one side does look 70m
-midwicket: 65 metres

Having looked at many YouTube videos of the ground, it does appear, one side of the square is bigger than the other side. While the shorter square side looks 60 metres.

I'd assumed a straight hit either side is 60 metres, one side of the square 60 metres as one side looks small and the other side of the square boundary 70 metres.
 
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Thanks [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION]

I assume the straight hit at the other end is 58m and Sharjah?
 
Dulex9 said:
Thanks [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION]

I assume the straight hit at the other end is 58m and Sharjah?
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Good point - not too sure bro but looks like a good approximation.
 
What about the old Eden Park NZ? Very curious to know and pak played their SF where Imran got out to the short square leg boundary

I remember watching the 92 WC games and one side of the square definitely looked 75 metres, as batters ran four, the other square seemed 60 metres

The short straight hit 48 metres, the squares 52 metres on that side

The other straight hit 60 metres
 
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Boundary size in GSL for the Pak v NZ series - we happy with that?
 
No, the different dimensions at each ground is part of cricket and the challenge. At the end of the day, both teams are playing on the same ground so it will always be fair.

However, there should be minimum boundary requirements or something of that sort, for the sake of the product. It's an easily controllable factor to help maintain balance between bat and ball.
 
This is the Indore ground where an international games - India v Aus 2nd ODI is being played.

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MenInG said:
This is the Indore ground where an international games - India v Aus 2nd ODI is being played.

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For me that is just not right its an international mens cricket match not a u17 match. Cricket grounds should have a standard and should all be the same size
 
Ground is same for both sides. NZ grounds smaller. Have you seen Trentbridge. ? There are so many grounds are similar sized grounds. Not every ground is MCG.
 
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