Should IPL 2021 be Postponed Amid Rising Coronavirus Cases in India?

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

I know there has been no cases within the Bubble reported but just thinking when word broke out at PSL about cases Dan Christian took the next flight out before the event got cancelled and couldnt get out fast enough yet here their is 300K plus cases a day and sooner or later their is a chance it can get into the bubble yet no foreign player including Christian is perturbed enough to think I want to get out of the country while I still can.

Again. Dan Christian got out because the bubble was breached. In IPL it has not been breached yet

There is no comparison between PSL and IPL rn

 

[gazza619]

For the sake of international cricket, we need this IPL to finish in this alloted time slot. Otherwise it will drag into the World T20 or affect the England v Pakistan series later this summer.

They don’t seem to care about death outside of the bubble so just let them finish this and get rid of it

It is only a matter of time when a cricketer dies from this virus. Thats just the law of probability.

We always react late!

 

[Bewal Express]

Players will have to weigh up current and future earnings with the risks. So far the money trumps the risks.

 

[RohitD]

Players will have to weigh up current and future earnings with the risks. So far the money trumps the risks.

Risks are low because the Bio Bubble protocols are strictly adhered to so far. Foreign players like Buttler have even brought their family. Don't think they will risk their family for some money.

 

[mazkhan]

Atm india is in a Corona black hole it is the epicenter of the virus and deadly mutations

Its absolute hypocrisy these white players have not left when the whole indian healthcare setup has more or less collapsed and the country is burning bodies all over the place it's an open crematorium.

 

[RohitD]

Atm india is in a Corona black hole it is the epicenter of the virus and deadly mutations

Its absolute hypocrisy these white players have not left when the whole indian healthcare setup has more or less collapsed and the country is burning bodies all over the place it's an open crematorium.

There are many countries in the neighborhood which are equally bad if not worse. But no test, no Corona. There is stress in some cities in India atm, but Most of India is fine. Thanks for your concern.

 

[Sunzi]

It is only a matter of time when a cricketer dies from this virus. Thats just the law of probability.

We always react late!

I doubt it.

Has anyone young/healthy actually died?

A lot of sportsmen have contracted corona and they've all recovered. Mbappe, Hudson-Odoi, Pakistani players.

Corona can make someone seriously ill - but realistically survival rates are very high and the majority of people dying are oldies and those with health issues and underlying reasons.

Challenge you to actually name someone young and healthy that died.

 

[MenInG]

I doubt it.

Has anyone young/healthy actually died?

A lot of sportsmen have contracted corona and they've all recovered. Mbappe, Hudson-Odoi, Pakistani players.

Corona can make someone seriously ill - but realistically survival rates are very high and the majority of people dying are oldies and those with health issues and underlying reasons.

Challenge you to actually name someone young and healthy that died.

The current strain in India is sparing no age groups.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

There are many countries in the neighborhood which are equally bad if not worse. But no test, no Corona. There is stress in some cities in India atm, but Most of India is fine. Thanks for your concern.

Dil ko behlanay ka khyaal acha hai Ghalib

Though in pak it’s def on the way up and getting. Worse

 

[RohitD]

Dil ko behlanay ka khyaal acha hai Ghalib

Though in pak it’s def on the way up and getting. Worse

Well if you care to parse the news coming from India, most of it is from one City Delhi. Media is just extrapolating it to whole of India to sensationalise.

 

[Sunzi]

The current strain in India is sparing no age groups.

I'll check it out.

 

[RohitD]

The current strain in India is sparing no age groups.

Not true. Data is not showing any significant increase in infection among younger people in this wave.

 

[MenInG]

Not true. Data is not showing any significant increase in infection among younger people in this wave.

You seem to be defending India for the sake of it and its getting embarrassing now.

One of my off shore workers, early 30s is in critical condition in India at the moment. Thankfully he has found a place where there is oxygen.

 

[MenInG]

Not true. Data is not showing any significant increase in infection among younger people in this wave.

The numbers suggest that more than half (52%) of the people infected in India so far were between the ages of 18 and 44 years, while a majority (55%) of those who died of the viral disease were 60 years and older. People in between the ages of 45 years and 60 constitute 33% of all fatalities, while about 10% of the deaths were among people between the ages of 26 and 44. Those between 18 and 25 years, and those below 17 years of age, account for only 1% of fatalities each.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...p-govt-data/story-0RvZ2kT1CXMRonZjl6pGlL.html


Whilst I agree that sportsman are generally young but its a case of Russian Roulette when dealing with Covid-19.

Would you take the risk yourself?

 

[RohitD]

The numbers suggest that more than half (52%) of the people infected in India so far were between the ages of 18 and 44 years, while a majority (55%) of those who died of the viral disease were 60 years and older. People in between the ages of 45 years and 60 constitute 33% of all fatalities, while about 10% of the deaths were among people between the ages of 26 and 44. Those between 18 and 25 years, and those below 17 years of age, account for only 1% of fatalities each.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...p-govt-data/story-0RvZ2kT1CXMRonZjl6pGlL.html


Whilst I agree that sportsman are generally young but its a case of Russian Roulette when dealing with Covid-19.

Would you take the risk yourself?

Media sensationalism. Check the link below for accurate official data.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...vid-in-2nd-wave-govt-101618857932384-amp.html

 

[Sunzi]

The numbers suggest that more than half (52%) of the people infected in India so far were between the ages of 18 and 44 years, while a majority (55%) of those who died of the viral disease were 60 years and older. People in between the ages of 45 years and 60 constitute 33% of all fatalities, while about 10% of the deaths were among people between the ages of 26 and 44. Those between 18 and 25 years, and those below 17 years of age, account for only 1% of fatalities each.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...p-govt-data/story-0RvZ2kT1CXMRonZjl6pGlL.html


Whilst I agree that sportsman are generally young but its a case of Russian Roulette when dealing with Covid-19.

Would you take the risk yourself?

So I wasn't far off.

I wouldn't go looking for coronavirus of course but survivability rates are good for healthy individuals, which was my initial point.

 

[RohitD]

The numbers suggest that more than half (52%) of the people infected in India so far were between the ages of 18 and 44 years, while a majority (55%) of those who died of the viral disease were 60 years and older. People in between the ages of 45 years and 60 constitute 33% of all fatalities, while about 10% of the deaths were among people between the ages of 26 and 44. Those between 18 and 25 years, and those below 17 years of age, account for only 1% of fatalities each.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...p-govt-data/story-0RvZ2kT1CXMRonZjl6pGlL.html


Whilst I agree that sportsman are generally young but its a case of Russian Roulette when dealing with Covid-19.

Would you take the risk yourself?

The reality is the players' chances of contracting covid19 in bio bubble is less than that back home.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The numbers suggest that more than half (52%) of the people infected in India so far were between the ages of 18 and 44 years, while a majority (55%) of those who died of the viral disease were 60 years and older. People in between the ages of 45 years and 60 constitute 33% of all fatalities, while about 10% of the deaths were among people between the ages of 26 and 44. Those between 18 and 25 years, and those below 17 years of age, account for only 1% of fatalities each.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...p-govt-data/story-0RvZ2kT1CXMRonZjl6pGlL.html


Whilst I agree that sportsman are generally young but its a case of Russian Roulette when dealing with Covid-19.

Would you take the risk yourself?

Will i take the risk of staying in a BSE or at my home?

I will take the BSE any day.

 

[RamLakhan]

It would have been good if this IPL was cut short for 1 set of Round-Robin (7 matches). That's enough anyway to judge the best in any tournament (World cup events didn't even have 1 set of Round-Robin. Most world cups had teams pooled in groups to lessen the number of matches!) So having 14 matches for each team was to intentionally lengthen it to make more money and more drama! It has nothing to do with finding out the best teams! It would have been ideal if the current tournament was curtailed considering the present scenario! This should have been planned earlier itself by expecting things....

 

[MenInG]

Will i take the risk of staying in a BSE or at my home?

I will take the BSE any day.

Agreed in the current climate in India you would.

However, the argument from my point of view is less about personal safety then playing a competition in a situation where there is so much tragedy and strife (due to disease).

I would be uncomfortable.

 

[RohitD]

Agreed in the current climate in India you would.

However, the argument from my point of view is less about personal safety then playing a competition in a situation where there is so much tragedy and strife (due to disease).

I would be uncomfortable.

The same tragedy was playing out in UK, US in first quarter. Did they stop all sporting events ?

 

[MenInG]

Cricket Australia is monitoring the coronavirus situation in India after Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced fresh travel restrictions to and from the country amid sky-rocketing coronavirus numbers.

As several of Australia’s top male cricketers including Pat Cummins, Steve Smith and David Warner continue to play through the Indian Premier League currently being held at spectator-free grounds in India, the nation notched a sobering milestone on Thursday, with the 314,000 fresh COVID-19 infections recorded in India breaking the single-day world record.

Following a national cabinet meeting on Thursday, Mr Morrison announced that incoming traveller numbers from India would be reduced by 30 per cent, and that the government would be scaling back the approved exceptions list for travel to high-risk countries.

Sixteen top Aussies and several coaches are currently in India playing in the lucrative IPL, which runs through until the end of May. Players have been staying in bio-secure bubbles although all-rounder Daniel Sams tested positive to COVID-19 earlier this month.

Players must receive no-objection certificates from CA to play in the IPL, and are technically playing the event in their leave period, as opposed to when they are representing Australia.

But CA continues to keep in contact with players and is mindful of their wellbeing.

The Australian squad is scheduled to depart for a white-ball tour of the West Indies on June 25, which should leave enough time for players to return to Australia and go through a fortnight’s quarantine before heading to the Caribbean. However given the impending reduction of flights, sources indicated there could be a push for CA to charter a flight to ensure the players get home swiftly at the end of the tournament.

In the longer term, there is also the issue of the Twenty20 World Cup, scheduled to begin in India in October. CA said on Thursday it would continue to monitor the situation.

Along with blue-chip stars Cummins, Warner and Smith, white-ball guns Glenn Maxwell, Jhye Richardson, Kane Richardson, Adam Zampa and Riley Meredith - all of whom are in the national selection frame - are currently playing in the IPL.

CA had been due to release its list of central men’s contracts for the 2021-22 season on Thursday but pushed back its announcement after being unable to get in touch with all players, many of whom are on leave at the moment. With communication between players and selectors having long been an issue of concern, CA was keen not to rush the announcement before concerned players were informed their fate.

Sources indicated CA was likely to squeeze the contract list from 20 to 17, with Matthew Wade and Will Pucovski poised to be high-profile omissions.

Cummins smashed his T20-best score of 66 not out from 34 balls on Wednesday night but it wasn’t enough for his Kolkata Knight Riders to beat the Chennai Super Kings.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...resh-travel-restrictions-20210422-p57lcn.html

 

[RohitD]

It would have been good if this IPL was cut short for 1 set of Round-Robin (7 matches). That's enough anyway to judge the best in any tournament (World cup events didn't even have 1 set of Round-Robin. Most world cups had teams pooled in groups to lessen the number of matches!) So having 14 matches for each team was to intentionally lengthen it to make more money and more drama! It has nothing to do with finding out the best teams! It would have been ideal if the current tournament was curtailed considering the present scenario! This should have been planned earlier itself by expecting things....

The IPL is having record viewership, those who are sick also watching and forgetting their pains for a while. Only the woke brigade in India want the symbolism of IPL being cancelled in solidarity than doing anything practical to ease the Pandemic situation. IPL should only be curtailed or postponed if the bio bubble becomes impossible to maintain.

 

[IMMY69]

This thread is eye opening.

 

[RohitD]

You seem to be defending India for the sake of it and its getting embarrassing now.

One of my off shore workers, early 30s is in critical condition in India at the moment. Thankfully he has found a place where there is oxygen.

Many young people in US and UK have also died. Anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything. Aggregate data shows there is no significant increase in infection among younger people currently in India.

 

[gazza619]

So I wasn't far off.

I wouldn't go looking for coronavirus of course but survivability rates are good for healthy individuals, which was my initial point.

No you actually meant that survival rates for healthy individuals were 100% which is far from true. Healthy people have died.

As I said based on the law of probability cricketers are not immune to recover from this virus. Specially now that new variants are out and about.

 

[MenInG]

Many young people in US and UK have also died. Anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything. Aggregate data shows there is no significant increase in infection among younger people currently in India.

What is this fascination with UK/US?

We are talking about India only. I would imagine you must be concerned about that?

 

[RohitD]

Because you are implying more young people are affected in India than other countries, data doesn't support it at all.

 

[MenInG]

Because you are implying more young people are affected in India than other countries, data doesn't support it at all.

I am implying that your country has a problem and it could spill over to IPL, and that it looks odd that such a tournament being made in middle of time of misery in the country.

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

Things are scary, country running out of beds, ventilators and oxygen concentrators.

Government is busy in conducting elections in West Bengal.

Corporates are busy in IPL.

 

[RohitD]

I am implying that your country has a problem and it could spill over to IPL, and that it looks odd that such a tournament being made in middle of time of misery in the country.

The whole world is in misery for last one year. Nothing unique in India. Other countries also held sporting event when cases were surging. We are living in a new normal now, the virus is going no where soon.

 

[RohitD]

I am implying that your country has a problem and it could spill over to IPL, and that it looks odd that such a tournament being made in middle of time of misery in the country.

Most countries canceled SA tour because of SA variant. Pakistan team is currently in neighbouring Zimbabwe which is in crisis for decades, and there is no way to know the situation of Covid19 there. But I don't see any active thread if Pakistan should abandon the tour and return home. Given it's a Pakistani forum I would think Pakistan team will be bigger priority, but more desire for IPL to be cancelled even though no Pakistani players are playing

 

[silentkiller187]

Most countries canceled SA tour because of SA variant. Pakistan team is currently in neighbouring Zimbabwe which is in crisis for decades, and there is no way to know the situation of Covid19 there. But I don't see any active thread if Pakistan should abandon the tour and return home. Given it's a Pakistani forum I would think Pakistan team will be bigger priority, but more desire for IPL to be cancelled even though no Pakistani players are playing ��

Situation in Zimbabwe seems ok, situation in india looks very bad that's the difference. Wouldn't fill me with much confidence if my country was running out of oxygen and beds but carrying on spending millions on a cricket tournament , suppose it would show their priorities, india never cared about their poor or lower castes anyway so can't say im not surprised.

 

[RohitD]

Situation in Zimbabwe seems ok, situation in india looks very bad that's the difference. Wouldn't fill me with much confidence if my country was running out of oxygen and beds but carrying on spending millions on a cricket tournament , suppose it would show their priorities, india never cared about their poor or lower castes anyway so can't say im not surprised.

India can do what Zimbabwe is doing. No tests, no Corona. But have to say I am overwhelmed to see the concern for India.

 

[silentkiller187]

The same tragedy was playing out in UK, US in first quarter. Did they stop all sporting events ?

In the UK The premiership stopped when the numbers were a lot lower than anything happening in india, globally that is what IPL wishes it could be but the UK showed money wasn't the be all and end all. so did other sports. At the moment there's less than 50 people dying a day yet we are still in pretty much lockdown conditions.

 

[silentkiller187]

India can do what Zimbabwe is doing. No tests, no Corona. But have to say I am overwhelmed to see the concern for India.

we have all seen what india is doing in the mainstream media, you can carry on defending all you want.

zimbabwe doesn't have a population of billion either.

 

[RohitD]

we have all seen what india is doing in the mainstream media, you can carry on defending all you want.

zimbabwe doesn't have a population of billion either.

Lol. How does the population size matter ? Is Zimbabwe doing enough tests ? Do they have the money to maintain proper bio bubble for players ?

 

[cricket4all]

The situation in Zimbabwe is nothing near as bad as India. South Africa variant is there too but if the situation is as bad as India and they playing a 2 month International tournament then I would say the same. The Pakistan series was quite short in comparison.

I think you are in denial and very defensive making it sound as its because some people aren't a fan of India and thats why they are saying. (Probably that maybe the case for some). However, the situation is bad whether its one city or pockets that have been highlighted as you said before. The problem is there, its bad and can easily spread. I would say the same if what is happening in India is happening anywhere else whether in Pakistan, Timbuktu or wherever. This isn't about having a go at any country but more about the well being and safety of the people and controlling the spread.

 

[silentkiller187]

Lol. How does the population size matter ? Is Zimbabwe doing enough tests ? Do they have the money to maintain proper bio bubble for players ?

because they are not breaking the world record for new cases on a daily basis, also 2.5k people are not dying everyday in zimbabwe from covid. Bubble is the least of the concerns when the entire country is crippling.

 

[RohitD]

because they are not breaking the world record for new cases on a daily basis, also 2.5k people are not dying everyday in zimbabwe from covid. Bubble is the least of the concerns when the entire country is crippling.

As I said number of cases and deaths depend of number of tests done. Entire India is not crippling, it is only your wish.

 

[cricket4all]

Also, if the situation in Zimbabwe or South Africa or elsewhere is as bad as India, then yes tournaments and sport should not continue as it is. I don't think it is as bad and if it is then I haven't seen the situation reported all over the International media like the India situation. For me it could be any country I would say the same. The country could be any name, its about controlling and protection from this killer virus.

 

[RohitD]

Also, if the situation in Zimbabwe or South Africa or elsewhere is as bad as India, then yes tournaments and sport should not continue as it is. I don't think it is as bad and if it is then I haven't seen the situation reported all over the International media like the India situation. For me it could be any country I would say the same. The country could be any name, its about controlling and protection from this killer virus.

It depends on number of tests done. India is a big country, so all the numbers coming look big. So lot of focus of international media as it makes good story. Can you rationally explain how a country like Zimbabwe which is in crisis for decades now is managing Covid19 so well ?

 

[silentkiller187]

As I said number of cases and deaths depend of number of tests done. Entire India is not crippling, it is only your wish.

india has more infected cases then the whole of zimbabwe population so its a silly comparison. getting back to the topic all i am saying is i am sure theres more important concerns currently , all the IPL owners should be banding together putting in some relief rather than focusing on this circus of an IPL. I live in the UK i couldnt care less what happens in india but i am entitled to my opinion on this topic, and a country with no oxygen, no ventitlators, no hospital beds, no space in crematoriums , piles of bodies burned in one go to save time in my opinion is on its knees.

 

[RohitD]

india has more infected cases then the whole of zimbabwe population so its a silly comparison. getting back to the topic all i am saying is i am sure theres more important concerns currently , all the IPL owners should be banding together putting in some relief rather than focusing on this circus of an IPL. I live in the UK i couldnt care less what happens in india but i am entitled to my opinion on this topic, and a country with no oxygen, no ventitlators, no hospital beds, no space in crematoriums , piles of bodies burned in one go to save time in my opinion is on its knees.

Thanks for your concern again. But we are managing.

 

[cricket4all]

It depends on number of tests done. India is a big country, so all the numbers coming look big. So lot of focus of international media as it makes good story. Can you rationally explain how a country like Zimbabwe which is in crisis for decades now is managing Covid19 so well ?

I really don't know if they are or not. Your probably right on Zimbabwer no doubt. If that is the case same applies to Zimbabwe as India. However, you miss the point and it still doesn't take the fact that India is going through 'hell' with Covid right now. If other countries are making the same mistakes and have the same problem then that should be called. It doesn't mean that any country that is known to have the problem (like India etc) deny the problem and instead say 'well other countries have this as well, or aren't showing a true picture'. Yes, that maybe right but as this thread is about the known high cases in India currently being reported which is a fact, one that your trying to play down or deny.

 

[cricket4all]

Thanks for your concern again. But we are managing.

Well lets hope India manage and your right, and this doesn't get worse.

 

[Sunzi]

No you actually meant that survival rates for healthy individuals were 100% which is far from true. Healthy people have died.

As I said based on the law of probability cricketers are not immune to recover from this virus. Specially now that new variants are out and about.

Pretty sure survival rate is something like 98%+ in total

So... for healthy individuals it might not be 100%, but if you're in a good health, you're pretty safe, even if you do get unwell.

It's not the same beast for a top class athlete as it is for random members of public. How many sportsman do you know have died?

 

[RohitD]

I really don't know if they are or not. Your probably right on Zimbabwer no doubt. If that is the case same applies to Zimbabwe as India. However, you miss the point and it still doesn't take the fact that India is going through 'hell' with Covid right now. If other countries are making the same mistakes and have the same problem then that should be called. It doesn't mean that any country that is known to have the problem (like India etc) deny the problem and instead say 'well other countries have this as well, or aren't showing a true picture'. Yes, that maybe right but as this thread is about the known high cases in India currently being reported which is a fact, one that your trying to play down or deny.

Do you think Zimbabwe has the money and infra to manage bio bubbles for players ? The SA variant is also prevalent in Zimbabwe which many believe is resistant to vaccines. Don't you think there should be more concern for safety of Pakistani players ? Why restrict to IPL, let's discuss all cricket going on around the world.

 

[cricket4all]

Do you think Zimbabwe has the money and infra to manage bio bubbles for players ? The SA variant is also prevalent in Zimbabwe which many believe is resistant to vaccines. Don't you think there should be more concern for safety of Pakistani players ? Why restrict to IPL, let's discuss all cricket going on around the world.

Yes, your probably right. Go for it start a thread if you want If there is a thread on this I am happy to discuss. However, you still don't accept there is a massive covid crisis in India (which at the moment and God forbid it to is not affecting the IPL).

If cricketers in Zimbabwe and the cases and the problems are like in India then yes the cricket series involving Pakistan is inappropriate and should be cancelled. Instead the focus should be helping the people of Zimbabwe. The PSL should not be played in June either if cases and problems in Pakistan regarding Covid remain as they are today.

As I said to you before, for me its not restricted to IPL, PSL EPL etc but anywhere, everywhere and anyone who is in this danger. Not about politics, race, country, religion, likes, dislikes, preferences or anything else but stopping the Covid killer.

 

[RohitD]

Yes, your probably right. Go for it start a thread if you want If there is a thread on this I am happy to discuss. However, you still don't accept there is a massive covid crisis in India (which at the moment and God forbid it to is not affecting the IPL).

If cricketers in Zimbabwe and the cases and the problems are like in India then yes the cricket series involving Pakistan is inappropriate and should be cancelled. Instead the focus should be helping the people of Zimbabwe. The PSL should not be played in June either if cases and problems in Pakistan regarding Covid remain as they are today.

As I said to you before, for me its not restricted to IPL, PSL EPL etc but anywhere, everywhere and anyone who is in this danger. Not about politics, race, country, religion, likes, dislikes, preferences or anything else but stopping the Covid killer.

But how will you know the real situation in Zimbabwe without enough tests ? I don't deny Covid surge is there. But the BCCI is managing the IPL well. We don't know how long the covid surge will continue. What do we do ? Stop everything for indefinitely ? It is already a year now, the virus keeps coming back. Delhi is seeing its fourth surge currently.

 

[cricket4all]

Your right about the real situation in Zimbabwe and places like that as they don't keep a proper count. Mexico, Pakistan and many other developing countries are examples of that where the true picture is not shown because there is no proper reporting and counting system, as well as officials not wanting to show. Well done to the BCCI. Thank you for clearing that up that you do not deny there is a surge. It is a difficult one and I know what you mean what do we do now? Maybe if the cases weren't as high I personally think carry on with the IPL, but the cases are very high so personally I wouldn't carry it on right now. I just find it inappropriate and insensitive. With the IPL itself though they are managing very well so credit there. Life doesn't stop your right but more and more help for those suffering with volunteers as well as track, trace, control and vaccinate is the way forward. (Maybe India is already doing that anyways and if they are thats great).

Test and trace and reporting is good if we want to control Covid. Countries not doing that as you said we don't know the tru picture and they are doing themselves and their people no favours in fighting Covid.

 

[RohitD]

Your right about the real situation in Zimbabwe and places like that as they don't keep a proper count. Mexico, Pakistan and many other developing countries are examples of that where the true picture is not shown because there is no proper reporting and counting system, as well as officials not wanting to show. Well done to the BCCI. Thank you for clearing that up that you do not deny there is a surge. It is a difficult one and I know what you mean what do we do now? Maybe if the cases weren't as high I personally think carry on with the IPL, but the cases are very high so personally I wouldn't carry it on right now. I just find it inappropriate and insensitive. With the IPL itself though they are managing very well so credit there. Life doesn't stop your right but more and more help for those suffering with volunteers as well as track, trace, control and vaccinate is the way forward.

Test and trace and reporting is good if we want to control Covid. Countries not doing that as you said we don't know the tru picture and they are doing themselves and their people no favours in fighting Covid.

The numbers look big, because India is very big country. Life is fine in most of India. The stress is there in few cities only. Out of 30 states and 7 Union Territories, 90% of new cases are only from five states. Of course there is lot more hue and cry in media, because most of rich and elite live in those cities.

 

[cricket4all]

If what you say its in a few cities only then fine (but obviously not fine for them as people still getting sick and dieing regardless if a few or many. However, the problem with Covid19 is that it can rapidly spread very quickly especially as its invisible, so if not controlled in them cities it could spread much wider and infect all the country (God forbid), just like it started in Wuhan and now look its everywhere in the world. Lets hope they control it in them cities and stop the spread any further, and those suffering are helped.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Agreed in the current climate in India you would.

However, the argument from my point of view is less about personal safety then playing a competition in a situation where there is so much tragedy and strife (due to disease).

I would be uncomfortable.

Right now a BSE is a safer option than any country except perhaps NZ.

 

[IMMY69]

Right now a BSE is a safer option than any country except perhaps NZ.

But thats not really the point.

 

[cricket4all]

which country is BSE sorry I can't think lol.

 

[IMMY69]

which country is BSE sorry I can't think lol.

Bio Secure Environment

Should actually be BSB (Bubble).

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I know you're being sarcastic and mocking India but unfortunately our leaders genuinely believe what you wrote. Not just the politicians and the rich and powerful, but the regular Indian citizen, even in the face of the second wave, remains arrogant that it is not a big deal. I have seen even the educated ones behaving this way.

They are behaving that way on this very thread. Actually if you think about it, I am the one who is actually showing genuine concern for Indians, at least I have brought the common man to attention rather than worrying whether the foreign VIPs will catch the bug and risk ruining IPL's reputation.

Not just an Indian thing either, I have often made the same point about Pakistan army casualties which are often hidden or kept quiet in contrast to the fuss which is made over every British or American soldier who loses his life.

 

[CanadianG00se]

IPL should be postponed. All the interest I had in IPL have vanished. Now I just don’t really care anymore.

Things that I’m seeing and hearing from relatives Gujarat is quite heart breaking. I can’t think of entertainment in such climate.

 

[sharmaji]

I completely agree with you. I hope sanity prevails.

They are behaving that way on this very thread. Actually if you think about it, I am the one who is actually showing genuine concern for Indians, at least I have brought the common man to attention rather than worrying whether the foreign VIPs will catch the bug and risk ruining IPL's reputation.

Not just an Indian thing either, I have often made the same point about Pakistan army casualties which are often hidden or kept quiet in contrast to the fuss which is made over every British or American soldier who loses his life.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

I completely agree with you. I hope sanity prevails.

Also since majority of the IPL players are Indians surely a lot of them have family members struggling as well. I can’t see a situation where they can just switch themselves off in the bio secure bubble and go along with the game.

 

[TheNeutralist]

Ground reality in India is not good. Corona has spread a lot in cities, no city is spared. Right now few North Indian and west Indian states have more issues as there is unavailability of oxygen/remdisivir/hospital beds, things are better in other states. That said this wave will go long, may last couple of months may be.

All deaths are under reported a lot, very easily ten times. Most of my extended family have been affected, no one git tested as known doctors have prescribed medications. Only those who have high symptoms get testes for covid and are admitted to hospital.

 

[sharmaji]

Yes, that's also a factor.

I don't know if anyone from IPL/BCCI has made any statement about the pandemic that the rest of the country is going through and how they are monitoring/assessing the situation and what would they do if the situation gets worse.

Also since majority of the IPL players are Indians surely a lot of them have family members struggling as well. I can’t see a situation where they can just switch themselves off in the bio secure bubble and go along with the game.

 

[WengerOut]

You dont bring circus into town when people are dying around. I understand about financial implications. Should find a way to postpone.

 

[Saj]

The more I watch the news coverage of the pandemic in India, the more I feel that the IPL should not be happening in the country at the moment.

If it was in UAE or elsewhere, fair enough, but the tournament is going on in a country where Covid is out of control.

What's interesting is that apart from Livingstone none of the foreign players have left India yet.

 

[Zeshan547]

The more I watch the news coverage of the pandemic in India, the more I feel that the IPL should not be happening in the country at the moment.

If it was in UAE or elsewhere, fair enough, but the tournament is going on in a country where Covid is out of control.

What's interesting is that apart from Livingstone none of the foreign players have left India yet.

Saj it's all about damn money, pay them big enough and they will probably play during all out war. That's the sad reality of world. If PSL was paying equal money i can bet my house no player would have cared about bubble.

 

[street cricketer]

I'm pretty sure the BCCI is taking full precautions in keeping the bio secure bubble safe. I heard Lynn saying in an interview saying that there are about 150 people in the Mumbai Indians camp bubble and everyone is being tested twice a day daily, once in the morning and another in the night.

But regardless of whether the bio secure bubble is safe or not, I just feel it's a bit tone deaf in conducting a sports tournament when people are running out of breaths due to oxygen scarcity and dying in the hundreds and thousands daily. On the flip side, I read an argument that when there's all doom and gloom happening in the country, the IPL sort of provides the people an avenue for getting detached from the reality which is pretty sombre and at least helps in lifting the mood somewhat for people locked inside homes. I personally feel cricket matches should only be happening in western countries which have succeeded in controlling covid somewhat, particularly the antipodean ones.

 

[ahsan17]

How are the ratings for IPL right now? With all the focus on the virus, I wonder if some people have tuned out mentally.

 

[Golden arm]

There are many countries in the neighborhood which are equally bad if not worse. But no test, no Corona. There is stress in some cities in India atm, but Most of India is fine. Thanks for your concern.

These are delusional thoughts. God bless you ❤

 

[Golden arm]

There are many countries in the neighborhood which are equally bad if not worse. But no test, no Corona. There is stress in some cities in India atm, but Most of India is fine. Thanks for your concern.

I'm pretty sure the BCCI is taking full precautions in keeping the bio secure bubble safe. I heard Lynn saying in an interview saying that there are about 150 people in the Mumbai Indians camp bubble and everyone is being tested twice a day daily, once in the morning and another in the night.

But regardless of whether the bio secure bubble is safe or not, I just feel it's a bit tone deaf in conducting a sports tournament when people are running out of breaths due to oxygen scarcity and dying in the hundreds and thousands daily. On the flip side, I read an argument that when there's all doom and gloom happening in the country, the IPL sort of provides the people an avenue for getting detached from the reality which is pretty sombre and at least helps in lifting the mood somewhat for people locked inside homes. I personally feel cricket matches should only be happening in western countries which have succeeded in controlling covid somewhat, particularly the antipodean ones.

The other possibility is UAE

 

[redmaverik84]

What is really appreciable is the efficiency of the bubble and no active cases yet being reported amongst the players. While I agree that the IPL should have been conducted in the UAE this year too , to better use the resources at our disposal, the way the whole affair is being handled by BCCI/IPL committee is admirable. No other country could pull off this kind of mega event with so many cases alongside. Lets see how the Tokyo Olympics unfold.

 

[redmaverik84]

I also believe Covid rise is not limited to India but all of South Asia. High numbers in India is only because of the large scale of testing happening. While in India 1 in 5 have been tested officially, its 1 in 20 in Pak and 1 in 33 in Bang. SL admirably showing greater control over Covid.

 

[pakistani pride]

I doubt it.

Has anyone young/healthy actually died?

A lot of sportsmen have contracted corona and they've all recovered. Mbappe, Hudson-Odoi, Pakistani players.

Corona can make someone seriously ill - but realistically survival rates are very high and the majority of people dying are oldies and those with health issues and underlying reasons.

Challenge you to actually name someone young and healthy that died.

Its more panic created by the media. A country like Pak has a death rate of 8.000 people per day pre covid-19. No one talks about that. There are serious issues in both Pak and India, one could only wish they would get the same hype and attention, but of course not.

I was in Pak (Kharian area) during December and seriously no one follows the pathetic rules that are pushed on people in Europe. If you would not follow the media , most people would not even know that there is a pandemic.

 

[pakistani pride]

I'm pretty sure the BCCI is taking full precautions in keeping the bio secure bubble safe. I heard Lynn saying in an interview saying that there are about 150 people in the Mumbai Indians camp bubble and everyone is being tested twice a day daily, once in the morning and another in the night.

But regardless of whether the bio secure bubble is safe or not, I just feel it's a bit tone deaf in conducting a sports tournament when people are running out of breaths due to oxygen scarcity and dying in the hundreds and thousands daily. On the flip side, I read an argument that when there's all doom and gloom happening in the country, the IPL sort of provides the people an avenue for getting detached from the reality which is pretty sombre and at least helps in lifting the mood somewhat for people locked inside homes. I personally feel cricket matches should only be happening in western countries which have succeeded in controlling covid somewhat, particularly the antipodean ones.

There are 1000000s of cases with false positives. Its impossible that out of 150 people not even 1 does not test positive (false) on these PCR tests.

 

[Thanos]

Situation in Zimbabwe seems ok, situation in india looks very bad that's the difference. Wouldn't fill me with much confidence if my country was running out of oxygen and beds but carrying on spending millions on a cricket tournament , suppose it would show their priorities, india never cared about their poor or lower castes anyway so can't say im not surprised.

India doesn't care about poor and lower castes?? LOL.

The level of ignorance some guys have about India is unimaginable. Every country has its own share of poor population and they suffer everywhere. So pointing out India doesn't make any sense. And FYI, rich, poor, politician, middle class everyone is getting infected and have seen death from all class. The son of prominent left leader Sitaram Yechury has died two days ago. So not sure why you taking this opportunity to make it between poor and rich.

About lower casts, I belong to a backward class and in my personal opinion it's the upper castes in India who are suffering more due to reservation and quota system. You chose any field and quota system will come your way. Candidates from upper caste will not be selected despite scoring high in exams, and reserved category candidate will secure place with lesser marks. Plus reimbursement of education fee to reserved category.
I've seen with my eyes how my friend from upper cast despite being poor had to take bank loan for fees and still didn't get job. And my reserved category friends who studied free of cost though their parents, brother, sister, whole family were in high salary govt jobs due to reserved category.

Some Pakistanis talk about India treating its lower caste/minorities unfair, ignore the fact that India has/had President, Vice President of country, Film stars, Scientists, Team Captain and what not from all communities/religion. It's not a country where constitution says that you have to belong to particular religion to become PM or President of the country.

Coming to the point of using millions of money from IPL for current covid situation, it's not the money which is making the situation worse. Hell our politicians scam ten folds of what IPL turnover would be in one season. Not something we are proud of but that should give you the idea.

Indian govt and states have enough money to spent on resources needed to treat corona but it's the gap between demand and supply making situation alarming.
Just like everyone else in world (and I am sure Pakistanis too), we thought Covid is not that dangerous and People started living normal life without taking precautions. Govt scheduled elections, exported vaccines and medicine, offices started asking employees to come back to office etc. If we had used that time to increase Remdesivir/Oxygen production, situation would have been much better. As I mentioned in one post, it's like a situation where we have money to buy food but food is not available. And you can't grow food overnight.

Those who are taking this opportunity to take jibe at India, Indian leadership, IPL etc. just to remind you that corona is not gone from remaining countries of the world. Indians are fighting with a mutant variant of covid and I pray to god that no other country has to go through the same. But take this opportunity to improve the system and prepare to fight if it ever happens because I doubt few countries are even financially capable enough.

 

[Rajdeep]

The more I watch the news coverage of the pandemic in India, the more I feel that the IPL should not be happening in the country at the moment.

If it was in UAE or elsewhere, fair enough, but the tournament is going on in a country where Covid is out of control.

What's interesting is that apart from Livingstone none of the foreign players have left India yet.

If the pandemic situation was like this in the beggining, IPL could have been postponed or moved to UAE. But since they are already in a bubble, it makes little sense to cancel now since they are not posing any risk to anyone.

 

[Junaids]

It's so disrespectful to the dead and dying in India to be squandering precious Covid testing kits and resources on testing and retesting IPL participants so that they can play a game.

It's a gesture of absolute contempt towards the Indian public.

 

[cricketjoshila]

These are delusional thoughts. God bless you ❤

No they aren't.

 

[asifp]

Reality is that if it was any other tournament all the foreign players would have left by now, but it's the IPL and given the money at play, these players will stick around

You and I would do the same, so let's not call these players hypocrites. My risk appetite for earning one million dollars will be a lot different then 50k

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Reality is that if it was any other tournament all the foreign players would have left by now, but it's the IPL and given the money at play, these players will stick around

You and I would do the same, so let's not call these players hypocrites. My risk appetite for earning one million dollars will be a lot different then 50k

Zero cases have entered the IPL bubble. Real test of their resolve and your claim would be if there were positive tests inside the bubble