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Should Mohammad Hasnain and Haris Rauf be picked for the ODI series against Australia?

Should Mohammad Hasnain and Haris Rauf be picked for the ODI series against Australia?

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We've seen both bowlers impress with their skills and pace at the ongoing Pakistan Super League, but do you think they should be picked for the upcoming ODI series against Australia?
 
Yeah, why not? A meaningless ODI series where we can see which one of them could potentially make it to the World Cup squad.
 
Go for both. We need some new blood.
 
Yes.One could see that these two are way better than the others and whoever performs well in the series against Australia should go ahead and play in the world cup.


Ideally.
 
Also PP’ers if you are told that you are only able to select one, which out of the two would it be & why?
 
Idk.

Amir, Faheem and Junaid need to get in rhythm. Imad just came back and Shadab is probably needed for the UAE conditions.

I wouldn't mind them being picked but it could be useless as they don't have any 50 over experience. So it remains to be seen whether or not that pace can last 10 overs.
 
Absolutey! Guys like Hasan, Shaheen and Amir need some rest anyway. Who else are we going to pick? Shinwari and Rahat?
 
Amirforpresident said:
Is there a way we could reach out to Mickey and Ask him for their inclusion.
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[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] grateful if you can have a brief chat with Mickey post PSL and solely discuss with him about the emerging players/prospects he has witnessed in PSL and what his short/long term plans are with them.
 
Yeah sure, give them a go in a couple of matches, wil help rotate Amir, hasan and shaheen for a bit too.

From now till May its all about preparation.
 
When is the deadline for the world cup squad? for the last world cup it was in January IIRC, 2 months before the world cup, so is the deadline gonna be early April this time?
 
Definitely should be in the squad. Hasnain is a bit raw atm to play the longer format. Rauf has the skillset and temperament to play ODIs.
 
Theo_14 said:
Also PP’ers if you are told that you are only able to select one, which out of the two would it be & why?
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Hasnain, he looks like a natural athlete and natural express bowler with good rhythmic run up and good action. Also he has emerged through the system, age limit cricket, PSL and now knocking at the national tea,. Rauf, has not played any serious cricket, not even club cricket. His action is not good at all and unlikely to add more yards to his pace, Hasnain's future potential, sky is the limit for him.
 
Waqar Younis was in the same age and situation when picked by Imran , rest is history.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Junaid te Musa kithon aa gaye nay.
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Samjha nahi. :danish

But I knew you wouldn't agree with Junaid. It's realistic though, and he can do a decent job of a backup pacer in the WC squad ahead of Usman, who's fallen down in the pecking order.

Wish Arshad got chances in the PSL too.
 
Looks like the main bowlers will rest.

Could try a bowling attack of:
Junaid Khan, Amir Yamin, Haris Rauf, Yasir Shah and Imad Wasim.

Pace depth looks decent but backup spinner is a real problem with Shadab and Yasir the only two non-SLA in PSL atm.
 
I wish Musa, Rauf and Hasnain get chances against Australia. They all are good.

But our problem was never bowling. Every team now-a-days give away 300 runs or more. Our main problem is batting. We cannot expect our bowlers will bowl opposition under 200 in a flat track. Batting needs to be addressed more than bowling. Our current bowing is still good even with Shiwari in the team.
 
Rest all three of Amir, Hasan, and Shaheen. Take Hasnain, Rauf, and Musa to the Australian series. The one who bowls best should be picked for the world cup.
 
Square Drive said:
Samjha nahi. :danish

But I knew you wouldn't agree with Junaid. It's realistic though, and he can do a decent job of a backup pacer in the WC squad ahead of Usman, who's fallen down in the pecking order.

Wish Arshad got chances in the PSL too.
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Got much better prospects now. No time to waste on Junaid. Need to get them in.
 
Would like to see all three musa ,haris rauf and husnain in odi squad but i think it won.t happen

At worst atleast one should be replace with shaheen who seems to be on brink of getting injured pretty soon .Shaheen is our main weapon and need to be protected.
 
Judging by what Inzi said recently, I dont think any of them is going to be tried out for the Australian series. Ideally the front line attack should all be rested and rest played.
 
Amir should be 'rested' for the Aus ODI series - it's not like he will transform into something else all of a sudden, he is predictable and you know what you will get with him, decent economy , a couple past the edge and maybe a 2-fer on a really good day.

I would try both of these young guns Hasnain and Rauf v Australia, and who knows , all you need is one electrifying spell with one of these guys taking a 5-fer (which many have done before on debut, so its not exactly impossible) and taking apart the Australian batting line up. That can give Pakistan a secret 'weapon' to take into the World Cup, giving a possible X-factor to the Pakistan attack.

In any case what's the worst that can happen and why fear taking this chace with youngsters ? if things dont work out , you still have Amir, Wahab, Rahat Ali and Sohail Tanvir who are all predictable bowlers and you can call on their services any time if these new kids turn out to be useless.
 
Hasnain looks like the real deal. Haris Rauf in my opinion will be more suitable for t20 only.
 
I would like to see Pakistan go in with following pace bowling attack for the World Cup: -

Junaid Khan
Shaheen Afridi
Mohammed Hasnain/Haris Rauf (give both chance v Aus pick whoever shines)
Hasan Ali

(Mohammed Amir as reserve in squad to replace either Junaid or Hasan if they get into woeful form again.)
 
Majid Khan said:
I would like to see Pakistan go in with following pace bowling attack for the World Cup: -

Junaid Khan
Shaheen Afridi
Mohammed Hasnain/Haris Rauf (give both chance v Aus pick whoever shines)
Hasan Ali

(Mohammed Amir as reserve in squad to replace either Junaid or Hasan if they get into woeful form again.)
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Thousand salutes sire!

A joke, club level bowler Junaid will now play in our world cup squad. That too ahead of our premier, best fast bowler Amir.

Salute!

:salute
 
Try both of them against Australia.

By the end of the Aus series we will get to know which two pacers have won the battle of the fittest out of Amir, Junaid, Hasnain and Rauf. Yes Amir and Junaid have experience but cant carry just experience in both batting and bowling without impactful performances.

Hassan and Shaheen are obvious for the WC.
 
Hawkeye said:
Thousand salutes sire!

A joke, club level bowler Junaid will now play in our world cup squad. That too ahead of our premier, best fast bowler Amir.

Salute!

:salute
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Sir, with due respect, please do check the statistics of both bowlers in ODI cricket. Our so-called 'premier, best fast bowler' Amir has a bowling average touching 32 having taken 60 wickets from ~ 50 games - with 1 4-wicket haul - which was taken many many moons ago, 10 years ago v Sri Lanka.

And furthermore my dear Sir, I wish to inform you that Junaid Khan as an ODI bowler, the same bowler who you refer to as a 'joke, club level bowler' has an ODI average of 26 , and has taken 4-wickets on four occasions for Pakistan - including his 2nd to last game played for Pakistan before being dropped a few months ago, taking 4-19.

As for economy rate, yes our 'premier' bowler does have an edge on that , but still not bad stats from our 'club level' bowler , what do you think Sir ? :)
 
Neither should be in the World Cup squad but yes, they should be introduced into the IT20 team.

For the ODIs, the main WC bowlers should be rotated. Those would be Amir, Hasan, Shaheen, Junaid, Faheem, Shadab and Imad.
 
Looks like Pakistan will have an amazing team for the T20 WC in 2020.

Just need a few bats and we will do really well in the T20 WC.
 
Titan24 said:
Try both of them against Australia.

By the end of the Aus series we will get to know which two pacers have won the battle of the fittest out of Amir, Junaid, Hasnain and Rauf. Yes Amir and Junaid have experience but cant carry just experience in both batting and bowling without impactful performances.

Hassan and Shaheen are obvious for the WC.
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It would be extremely dangerous to take three newbies to England. Bowling in the UAE is much different to bowling in England. We've seen what Hasan, Amir and Junaid can do in England and I don't think Hasnain or Rauf are going to better that.
 
Yes try them. But we need to also try some batters.

The line up I think we will go with isn't good enough.
 
Bilal7 said:
It would be extremely dangerous to take three newbies to England. Bowling in the UAE is much different to bowling in England. We've seen what Hasan, Amir and Junaid can do in England and I don't think Hasnain or Rauf are going to better that.
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Agreed, that Junaid and Amir were brilliant last time in UK however there is no harm in trying youngsters against Aus and if anyone performs really good than it would be hard to ignore the performance.

I would also love to go with the same bowling attack as last time around, Shaheen being obvious inclusion and Rumman will sit out because of him but only if Junaid and Amir are in their full fitness rhythm and form. Since CT 17 Amir has really struggled and selectors always put question marks over Junaid's fitness otherwise he should have even played tests in recent times as well considering his record.
 
Hasan123 said:
Yes try them. But we need to also try some batters.

The line up I think we will go with isn't good enough.
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Saud Shakeel deserved a chance long time ago and could have been tried in ZIM series so he should be considered as he is the best upcoming batsmen we have. Umer Amin, Ahsan Ali and Umer Siddiq have shown some glimpses of their talent in PSL but to be honest there arent many upcoming batsmen knocking the door.
 
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Titan24 said:
Saud Shakeel deserved a chance long time ago and could have been tried in ZIM series so he should be considered as he is the best upcoming batsmen we have. Umer Amin, Ahsan Ali and Umer Siddiq have shown some glimpses of their talent in PSL but to be honest there arent many upcoming batsmen knocking the door.
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I fear Saud Shakeel will be inducted too late. I don't understand why he wasn't played in some earlier bilateral games.

Umar Akmal and Hussain Talat seem to be the 2 batters who will be given a game.
 
no reason for Hassan and Amir to play Oz ODIs.

Shaheen, Hasnain, Rauf, Faheem should be a go
 
They should be in for AUS series, from there we can access them for WC.

They both are very good, most people don’t realize “FAST” in fast bowling is fundamentally very important. They just don’t have pace for the sake of it, decent control....

Raif bowls with pretty short action and has very good control on Yorkers. He is holding fort for LQ in death, that is not a nceasy thing in T20...

Hussian has right away change the composition of QG attack, now with Bravo and him they are looking strongest team...

If Pakistan takes Afridi, Hasan, Rauf, Hussian, Amir, there is lot of upside. Two years ago Amir was our best bowler, now he is looking the weakest. Likes of Junaid, Faheem, Reese has no place, they two tiers below the rest...These two guys have raise the bar. Bowling 10 overs is not that much, people were hesitant of playing Afridi in ODI, but as soon as they introduced, he made impact right away... These guys should be tried in ODI. Era of trundlers is over, time to unleash pace battery!!!

Test is a big problem for all of our bowlers, non of them has stimana to bowl in test, but that’s a completely different discussion...
 
How can Pakistan play both and what is the point? We already have our pace battery relatively secure for the world cup. Its the batters where we require some experimentation. Maybe try out guys like Umar Akmal and Umar Amin. Maybe one can make the squad and that would be Hasnain
 
Absolutely , wouldnt harm us much even if we lose the series 5-0.
Sad to see that the PSL hasnt given any chances to either saad ali or saud shakeel. They could have made their case as well.
 
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