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Sindh Knights vs Balochistan Warriors | 6th January, 2015 | Pentangular Cup | Karachi

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Players to watch

Players need to perform well for our future prospect

Fawad Alam, Mir Hamza , Sami Aslam, Sohaib Maqsood , Ehsan Adil ,Zia ul Haq.

Players need to perform bad for our future prospect

Sharjeel Khan, Anwar Ali , Asad Shafiq, , Azhar Ali, Zulfiqar Babar (Too old), Junaid Ilyas
 
Azhar get out already. 11 of 22. And it will get worse.

Want to see Maqsood.
 
Can anybody tell me what are the standings so far in this tournament?
 
Sami Aslam looking good...
Azhar Ali Struggling to score as usual.
Mir Hamzas Around 130-135 kmh.
 
Sohaib batting as if he's angry. Smashes Fawad for a six and is generally looking in a hurry. 95-2. 22 overs.
 
Maqsood looking gold out there.


It will be catastrophic if he misses out on a WC spot.
 
Sohaib looking very good. at least no signs of discomfort from the injury.
Having said that, some very friendly bowling he is facing.
 
MRSN said:
Maqsood is a must. He can play big shots when required.
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Nobody doubts his ability to play the big shots when required, it's his ability to refrain from playing aerial shots when they're not required that's in question.
 
umar akmal and sohaib too similar for my liking for a misfiring batting order. in any case on current form: in a squad of maqsood, harris, and akmal: junior will miss out in the play eleven.

maqsood doing an umar akmal as i type this
 
Anchorman said:
Nobody doubts his ability to play the big shots when required, it's his ability to refrain from playing aerial shots when they're not required that's in question.
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And Sohaib proves this point
 
Maqsood had the chance to seal his place here and he has given it away :facepalm:
 
Pete Rose said:
umar akmal and sohaib too similar for my liking for a misfiring batting order. in any case on current form: in a squad of maqsood, harris, and akmal: junior will miss out in the play eleven.

maqsood doing an umar akmal as i type this
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Tue but having both akmal and Maqsood in the 11 gives you more chance of winning than having lots of tuk tuk

The only bat in pakistan who has shown any real potential in pacing an innings is Haris and its early days for him
 
fawad bring himself back on to bowl his version of filthy spin, as sohaib departs
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Tue but having both akmal and Maqsood in the 11 gives you more chance of winning than having lots of tuk tuk

The only bat in pakistan who has shown any real potential in pacing an innings is Haris and its early days for him
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2 quickfire 30's are going to get us a win? ok
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Tue but having both akmal and Maqsood in the 11 gives you more chance of winning than having lots of tuk tuk

The only bat in pakistan who has shown any real potential in pacing an innings is Haris and its early days for him
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Ideally yes but realistically with YK scoring 100 in NZ series and Harris sealing his place both wont play in eleven

Though both are must for final 15
 
Pete Rose said:
2 quickfire 30's are going to get us a win? ok
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No they aren't

But they won't do as much damage as 45 ball 20s and both have won games for us in the past, something the the other tuk tuks bar Shezhad cannot claim to have dine
 
Sohail is a lot better than yk and shafiq.

Yk and shafiq will consume more deliveries and score less than him. Sohaib any day over these two.
 
Pete Rose said:
umar akmal and sohaib too similar for my liking for a misfiring batting order. in any case on current form: in a squad of maqsood, harris, and akmal: junior will miss out in the play eleven.

maqsood doing an umar akmal as i type this
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Agree. Harris is a lock and one of Maqsood/Junior will be in the XI based on form.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
No they aren't

But they won't do as much damage as 45 ball 20s and both have won games for us in the past, something the the other tuk tuks bar Shezhad cannot claim to have dine
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I can completely see retrospection to the affect of: "of course when you play hit or miss players like afridi, sohaib, and akmal in the same line up you have to accept that you can be dismissed for 150 odd"
 
Typical Maqsood innings, promises a lot but doesn't deliver. I agree we need one of Maqsood or Akmal in the side but not both. Too much instability if you have both. One gives you 3 aggressive players if you add in Afridi and Sarfaraz, and both Harris and Shezad can switch gears when needed
 
Pete Rose said:
I can completely see retrospection to the affect of: "of course when you play hit or miss players like afridi, sohaib, and akmal in the same line up you have to accept that you can be dismissed for 150 odd"
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And I'm more than comfortable to live with that when are current line has done crap and our 80/ strategy has been doing crap for years
 
Firebreaker said:
Azhar is a really disgrace to watch
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you know what, I though the same as well while Sohaib was batting with him.
But the thing is Azhar is playing to his strength and he is still out there, whereas as sohaib played to his strength and he is back in the hut.
you have to ask yourself, objectively, which player is better at playing to his strengths?
 
The problem with tuk tuks is they fire less often than the so called reckless players , even when the tuk galore fires we wont be able to score 250. With the socalled reckless player fire we have a good chance to score 280 300.
 
Pete Rose said:
sounds like a "cut my nose to spite my face" strategy.
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Call it what you want

Risks have to be taken to improve, Pakistan's batting is stagnat, our strategy outdated. People think scoring 20 of 50 balls is still a good thing. I'd rather pick the players who give you a better chance of winning rather than continuously limping to 220 each game
 
JibranAnsari said:
The problem with tuk tuks is they fire less often than the so called reckless players , even when the tuk galore fires we wont be able to score 250. With the socalled reckless player fire we have a good chance to score 280 300.
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It's a bias that exists without our cricket

20 off 50 is considered good

40 of 30 is considered bad
 
JibranAnsari said:
The problem with tuk tuks is they fire less often than the so called reckless players , even when the tuk galore fires we wont be able to score 250. With the socalled reckless player fire we have a good chance to score 280 300.
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sounds like gambling.
Pakistani has a hopefully temporary problem of batting quality.
The so called talented players dont last more than 5 overs.
the slow ones score too slowly despite consuming plenty of overs.
a mix of players is acceptable but you cannot replace every with a 30 ball superstar. I am really against YK's selection: but when I think that our playing eleven could conceivably have: hafeez, afridi, akmal, sohaib even I feel the need to seek refuge in the boring batting of yk, and misbah.
 
Pete Rose said:
sounds like gambling.
Pakistani has a hopefully temporary problem of batting quality.
The so called talented players dont last more than 5 overs.
the slow ones score too slowly despite consuming plenty of overs.
a mix of players is acceptable but you cannot replace every with a 30 ball superstar. I am really against YK's selection: but when I think that our playing eleven could conceivably have: hafeez, afridi, akmal, sohaib even I feel the need to seek refuge in the boring batting of yk, and misbah.
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Why ?

Misbah the anchor is only ever useful if we are chasing under 220, yk is never useful


One can easily accomodate both akmal and Maqsood

This is all whisful thinking but post WC a top 6 like this isn't out if the question

1. Shezhad
2. Babar Azam
3. Sohail
4. Akmal
5. Sarfraz
6. Maqsood
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Why ?

Misbah the anchor is only ever useful if we are chasing under 220, yk is never useful


One can easily accomodate both akmal and Maqsood

This is all whisful thinking but post WC a top 6 like this isn't out if the question

1. Shezhad
2. Babar Azam
3. Sohail
4. Akmal
5. Sarfraz
6. Maqsood
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conceivable. all depends on if they can figure out how to prolong their stay on the crease. its a non-negotiable in the game, always has been,.
Only in Pakistan do we hear "we should select xyz player becaue either he will sccore quickly or get out without scoring and not eat up a lot of deliveries"
most of these guys need to learn to play longer innings. In Sohaib and Haris's case they are young and will learn. Junoirs been around for a 100 odi's.
 
if you are playing out a maiden to anwar ali in the power play: i think your pedigree as a batsman is quite clear
 
Pete Rose said:
conceivable. all depends on if they can figure out how to prolong their stay on the crease. its a non-negotiable in the game, always has been,.
Only in Pakistan do we hear "we should select xyz player becaue either he will sccore quickly or get out without scoring and not eat up a lot of deliveries"
most of these guys need to learn to play longer innings. In Sohaib and Haris's case they are young and will learn. Junoirs been around for a 100 odi's.
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Honestly there is zero point in playing a long innings if your output is going at a strike rate of 60 most of the time

Plus all the people who we claim can play a long innings are the ones who barely last 5 overs with the exception of shezhad and Misbah
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Honestly there is zero point in playing a long innings if your output is going at a strike rate of 60 most of the time

Plus all the people who we claim can play a long innings are the ones who barely last 5 overs with the exception of shezhad and Misbah
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have yet to see the opposite to be true: that a team comes in and everyone score 50 off 30 and the team wins
 
hur rizvi said:
Today 10:27
Originally Posted by m.shah
This leggie is quality
Shahzaib ahmed?


Yup ...He should be a back up spinner for tests
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
You are just generalising

Maqsood and akmal have won us more games than the tuk tuk champions
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as are you i believe. I will take Misbah SR for a higher average because it will complement the hit and miss of the others. and much as I dont like YK, I think they will need him. If the young guns show that that they can do both: score and stay at the pitch guys like YK will disappear.
 
Pete Rose said:
sounds like gambling.
Pakistani has a hopefully temporary problem of batting quality.
The so called talented players dont last more than 5 overs.
the slow ones score too slowly despite consuming plenty of overs.
a mix of players is acceptable but you cannot replace every with a 30 ball superstar. I am really against YK's selection: but when I think that our playing eleven could conceivably have: hafeez, afridi, akmal, sohaib even I feel the need to seek refuge in the boring batting of yk, and misbah.
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We have shehzad and misbah for the stability purpose , any more than this means we are puposely attempting a suicide.

Haris is a good batsman with all gears , fawad can accelerate when we require. Sarfraz is probably the most versatile of them all. So yes we have a room for sohaib and akmal in our team. We dont need the guys who will consume all the strike and score so low that the late middle order has no choice but to go for infinity per over.
 
Replace akmal and fawad with younis and asad and the lineup will not even pass for 80s.
 
JibranAnsari said:
We have shehzad and misbah for the stability purpose , any more than this means we are puposely attempting a suicide.

Haris is a good batsman with all gears , fawad can accelerate when we require. Sarfraz is probably the most versatile of them all. So yes we have a room for sohaib and akmal in our team. We dont need the guys who will consume all the strike and score so low that the late middle order has no choice but to go for infinity per over.
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Shehzad, Hafeez, Misbah, Haris, Sarfaraz, Umar Akmal, Sohaib, fawad: 8 batsmen. pretty sure we need some bowlers as well.
 
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