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Sohail Tanvir - When will the torture end?

pakistanigoneaussie said:
Who gives a crap if his tool kit is smaller than Tool Kit Tanvir if the latter barely does anything
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bcz he has the tools. why arent you getting this? he just needs a good captain, supporting management, purchase from pitches ( ICC is thinking about making all the pitches he bowls on bowler friendly) and this is the most important, over 20 matches of failure which should not be held against him as he is trying to get back in rhythm. Dont worry he is at a tender age of 29. He will come good.
 
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saiyan0312 said:
bcz he has the tools. why arent you getting this? he just needs a good captain, supporting management, purchase from pitches ( ICC is thinking about making all the pitches he bowls on bowler friendly) and this is the most important. over 20 matches of failure which should not be held against him as he is trying to get back in rhythm. Dont worry he is at a tender age of 29. He will come good.
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I think what he needs is an apprentice that can help him mangage his giant just tool kit
 
Mamoon should actually be given credit for providing inspiration for Sohail's new nickname- Tool Kit Tanvir
 
This is baffling to see him again and again in ODI cricket.

He is only a T20 specialists but our selectors are too dumb to note that.
 
Asif321 said:
also Umar Akmal was calling Tanvir today "Comon Tiger" :zoni
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Aircrafts would fall down seeing his weird action using those tools unless the pilot was a batsmen then perfect landing.
 
oh my god, i can't stop laughing, both at the picture posted above and at Mamoon's post

If Tanvir is indeed a good new ball bowler, he should have done something by now. If i am not wrong, he bowled with the new ball in UAE and failed to do anything significant. He bowled with the new ball today and was horrible. Mamoon, needs to quit the excuses, if Junaid had bowled this terribly, you'd be calling for him to be kicked off the team. Stop the hypocrisy
 
Secondly Tanvir would be a great model for Spec Savers, can Junaid claim to do that ?


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saiyan0312 said:
I think majority already thinks that way other then a few trolls. :jf
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hush bhai!!! otherwise the troll will call his english masters and friends from other side of the border to defend him and his campaign.

i want to know what happened to his campaign against amla ajmal and junaid today you know anything?

he got nothing to say today?

and today i cant find him in that saeed ajmal class thread
 
Why do you guys hate him so much? :/ he was average today. Bowled brilliantly in the middle overs as well. Anwar is the one you should be trolling!
 
God,the tool posts(pretty much all)made me LOL pretty hard!:)))
Mamoon you are being royally trolled here:p

On a serious note his average is seriously pathetic,Webguru's other thread is about it..but personally I don't think he is that bad in t20s though!
 
I'm not the only creative guy in here, apparently :butt

Like the new nick, Sohail the Toolman.

I hope it goes viral.
 
after facing loads of embarrassment now this guy is talking about the creativity :)))

where is your creative army today mamoon today i dont see them to defend you and your agenda?
 
Strike Rate said:
after facing loads of embarrassment now this guy is talking about the creativity :)))

where is your creative army today mamoon today i dont see them to defend you and your agenda?
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I don't know, I am also wondering :shakib
 
Its become a habit to misquote me.

Fun aside, I never said Tanvir should play at Junaid's expense and I don't understand why it has become a one on one duel between the two.

Its just that Tanvir has more variety and offers something different.

He will compliment the likes of Irfan and Junaid very well as a 3 man combo but like I said, Tanvir is pretty useless on flat decks which is why the conditions should be kept in check before giving him a go.
 
Mamoon_ said:
Its become a habit to misquote me.

Fun aside, I never said Tanvir should play at Junaid's expense and I don't understand why it has become a one on one duel between the two.

Its just that Tanvir has more variety and offers something different.

He will compliment the likes of Irfan and Junaid very well as a 3 man combo but like I said, Tanvir is pretty useless on flat decks which is why the conditions should be kept in check before giving him a go.
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varieties and tools and tool box and brain and blah blah Tanvir got everything except wickets!!!
 
Strike Rate said:
varieties and tools and tool box and brain and blah blah Tanvir got everything except wickets!!!
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You lack the capacity to look beyond averages and wickets.

Lacking foresight is a common disease amongst Pakistani fans.
 
His new name should be - Sohail ''The Tool'' Tanvir
 
I don't think Tanvir is a world class bowler and he won't become one. Of course.

I am not blind.

However, Tanvir is different from all our other pacers and has a unique skill set. Thus, if utilized better, he can play an important role in ODI/T20 cricket.
 
Mamoon_ said:
Its become a habit to misquote me.

Fun aside, I never said Tanvir should play at Junaid's expense and I don't understand why it has become a one on one duel between the two.

Its just that Tanvir has more variety and offers something different.

He will compliment the likes of Irfan and Junaid very well as a 3 man combo but like I said, Tanvir is pretty useless on flat decks which is why the conditions should be kept in check before giving him a go.
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Ironically this assumption that others 'misquoted' was actually borne after your comparison of Kukri with JK.

Considering you thrive on his new ball skills, how exactly will he fit in to the 3 man 'pace' attack.
 
Mamoon_ said:
You lack the capacity to look beyond averages and wickets.

Lacking foresight is a common disease amongst Pakistani fans.
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yes because we want results not tools and tool boxes we dont need those smooth and classic actions of sir jimmy and and swings of tanvir i can trade 10 sir jimmies for 1 steyn.

junaid is producing result it doesn't matter how he produce but the guy is giving us wickets go and check the average of tanvir since his return and the sample is big enough to show his class.

and you telling us pakistani fans to look beyond average and wickets you first go and learn the difference between a swing and seam bowler i know your cricketing knowledge you are just an exposed in every thread keyboard warrior and search google and learn the difference between seam and swing bowler!
 
Haroon786 said:
Ironically this assumption that others 'misquoted' was actually borne after your comparison of Kukri with JK.

Considering you thrive on his new ball skills, how exactly will he fit in to the 3 man 'pace' attack.
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Like I said, Tanvir is useless when there is no swing on offer. But whatever the reason is, he utilizes swing better than all of our pacers.

In such conditions, I'll drop Afridi and go with 3 pacers + Ajmal + Hafeez.
 
Mamoon_ said:
Like I said, Tanvir is useless when there is no swing on offer. But whatever the reason is, he utilizes swing better than all of our pacers.

In such conditions, I'll drop Afridi and go with 3 pacers + Ajmal + Hafeez.
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Considering most wickets in LOIs are flat and that we play mostly in Asia Kukri shouldn't be in the team, moreover, like I mentioned on another thread, he swings it very nicely onto the bats of the opposition.
 
Haroon786 said:
Considering most wickets in LOIs are flat and that we play mostly in Asia Kukri shouldn't be in the team, moreover, like I mentioned on another thread, he swings it very nicely onto the bats of the opposition.
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It isn't about pitch only, overhead conditions play a part too.

Anyhow, its clear we disagree on this subject.
 
Mamoon_ said:
It isn't about pitch only, overhead conditions play a part too.

Anyhow, its clear we disagree on this subject.
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How many times do you see overcast conditions in Asia, they are a convivial rarity.
 
Haroon786 said:
How many times do you see overcast conditions in Asia, they are a convivial rarity.
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overcast conditions are regular in Asia apart from UAE, obviously you live in the UK you wouldn't know.
 
Mamoon we have had some good battles but now I truly feel sorry for you.

Annihilation.
 
Mamoon_ said:
overcast conditions are regular in Asia apart from UAE, obviously you live in the UK you wouldn't know.
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Well when they do occur they aren't much of an influence on a match, as the pitch is usually slow or a highway, which negates natural movement.
 
Haroon786 said:
Well when they do occur they aren't much of an influence on a match, as the pitch is usually slow or a highway, which negates natural movement.
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Bullet Drive said:
Exactly.
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They do have an influence in the first 10 overs, and its important to have a bowler in such conditions who can move the new ball.

Irfan isn't that type of a bowler because his main weapon is his steep bounce and Junaid is flat.

We should go with a three pace attack in such conditions, with Tanvir being the third pacer.

However, if Sadaf Hussain can really swing the ball then he should be preferred. Lets see how he goes.
 
Tanvir may have offered something different in his first three or four months of Cricket when he had the novelty factor.

Issue is, he has been figured out by every man and his dog and does not justify a spot in the side.
 
I would simply drop him based on his fielding even if he was averaging under 25 brings the entire team down and is simply disgraceful.
 
Mamoon_ said:
They do have an influence in the first 10 overs, and its important to have a bowler in such conditions who can move the new ball.

Irfan isn't that type of a bowler because his main weapon is his steep bounce and Junaid is flat.

We should go with a three pace attack in such conditions, with Tanvir being the third pacer.

However, if Sadaf Hussain can really swing the ball then he should be preferred. Lets see how he goes.
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I'm sorry, but the influence they do have is largely negligible, hence you can't have a trundler who moves it an inch or two and lacks any clinical penetration. :junaid

I love the subtle dig you've made at Junaid.
 
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Kukri is total garbage and still keeps on getting selected when he should be dropped from the side ASAP.
 
Mamoon_ said:
I'm not the only creative guy in here, apparently :butt

Like the new nick, Sohail the Toolman.

I hope it goes viral.
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I was AMAZED, SHOCKED to listen Umar Akmal calling him TIGER whenever the ball was hit towards him in the field. Now which tiger are we talking about

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I DO NOT CARE HOW MUCH HE CAN SWING THE BALL. It is irrelevant. He fails to pick up anything with the new ball. He could swing it miles like Wasim Akram, but if he isn't getting wickets with the new ball, than he is useless

Junaid consistently picks up wickets with the new ball. I don't care how "flat" a bowler he is, his opening spell in the 2nd odi was far better than any opening spell by Tanvir. Tanvir had 6 chances to prove himself with the new ball, yet he only picked up 5 wickets with a wonderful average of 46 +

Enough of the excuses. Would guys like Zia, Hamza, Talha, Adil, Rahat, Sadaf etc possibly be any worse? No. They ought to be given chances. He has had 56 matches to prove himself. What could any captain possibly do to help him bowl well? Nothing whatsoever

I will give him credit for trying his best but that is it. He is not an international cricketer.
 
You may call it a bias or an obession, I don't mind, but I strongly believe that a natural swing bowler is essential in all formats of the game.

I don't agree with the allergy from trundlers. Sami wasn't a trundler was he?

Tanvir the Toolman is a big no no for Tests. The last bowler I'd have in my Test team and that is because bowlers with too many variations can't cut it in Tests, unless he is Wasim Akram.

The reason I don't advocate discarding Tanvir is because at the moment, he's the only swing bowler in the squad. If there are swing bowlers superior to him in domestic cricket, draft him in immediately which is why someone like Sadaf should be given a chance before bringing Gul and his half trackers back.

To compliment Irfan and Junaid, we need a Bhuvneshwar Kumar or pre 2008 Anderson (expecting better would be asking too much from our bowlers in domestic cricket).

Someone you know that regardless of how he balls - good or bad, he will move the ball around and get purchase from the surface and the conditions.

Irfan will never do that because he is in the mould of Morkel and he's very good in his own right and Junaid's swing bowling once or twice a year isn't going to work out.

A beautiful swing bowler with silky smooth action to give more options. Our bace battery is very one dimensional and flat.

I'd stick with Tanvir in a 3 man attack until we find one.
 
see who is on backfoot now :))


just wait and see if junaid fail to pick a wicket in next 1 or 2 matches or remain wicketless in first spell with new ball and you will notice same guy who is giving us lecture on new ball swing will come out of the crease to hit every other junaid related thread with hate!!!
 
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Don't know why people take Mamoon seriously, all he does is comment in threads like these or wherever India is insulted he'll come up and be their white knight to rescue hence no surprise he comes out with garbage.
 
Mystrey said:
Don't know why people take Mamoon seriously, all he does is comment in threads like these or wherever India is insulted he'll come up and be their white knight to rescue hence no surprise he comes out with garbage.
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because sometimes its amusing to take him seriously
 
Mystrey said:
Don't know why people take Mamoon seriously, all he does is comment in threads like these or wherever India is insulted he'll come up and be their white knight to rescue hence no surprise he comes out with garbage.
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because we love to expose his hidden agenda and hate campaign!!!
 
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