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South Africa (138 & 285/5) defeat Australia (212 & 207) by 5 wickets in the final to clinch the World Test Championship 2023/25 title

Bavuma did not review that because he thought he might have edged it…

He reviewed it out of hope that maybe hawkeye will show the ball going over the stumps

Weird weird decision!
 
Bavuma did not review that because he thought he might have edged it…

He reviewed it out of hope that maybe hawkeye will show the ball going over the stumps

Weird weird decision!

Very fine edges are often not felt by the batsmen.
 
Never understood the inside edge in reviews issue

A player knows if he has made contact or not. It shouldn’t take so long for them to make the call if they knew they hit it.

Another big flaw in DRS.
I believe it was a faint edge and as rightly pointed out by Graeme that Bavuma is not always sure about an edge.
 
Umpire gave zero LBW decison during South Africa innings in favour of Africa but here they given it out despite edge

Umpire 4-0 so far in favour of australia . :kp
 
I believe it was a faint edge and as rightly pointed out by Graeme that Bavuma is not always sure about an edge.
This isn’t about Bavuma though

Many times I have seen Batsmen unsure about LBW decisions on line and impact, but get lucky with faint edges because they took a review for the sake of it. The ones who know they have hit it do not waste a second and review straight away.

IMO, if a batsman doesn’t review for inside edge in the first 5 seconds of a decision…then the DRS should not be looking for inside/outside edge at all for LBW decisions.
 
Well. That was as close as it can get... I would say that Benfit of the doubt goes to batter here..

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This isn’t about Bavuma though

Many times I have seen Batsmen unsure about LBW decisions on line and impact, but get lucky with faint edges because they took a review for the sake of it. The ones who know they have hit it do not waste a second and review straight away.

IMO, if a batsman doesn’t review for inside edge in the first 5 seconds of a decision…then the DRS should not be looking for inside/outside edge at all for LBW decisions.
Why not? If technology is there it should be used to overrule any wrong decision.
 
Really? Then what test team is better playing for atm? Such comments are embrassing.
Carey is great. Yeah for sure. Peoples cricketing iq really really makes me fruious sometimes.

He is playing for aus necause they don't have anyone else and i am sure inglis ll put him out sooner than later.

Alex carey is nothing soecial but ofc ur gira sucking mindset ll make u believe they sre greatest
 
Where's that guy who doubled down on insisting Bavuma was a "walking wicket" despite averaging 70 the last 3 years? Good little captains knock so far.
 
Carey is great. Yeah for sure. Peoples cricketing iq really really makes me fruious sometimes.

He is playing for aus necause they don't have anyone else and i am sure inglis ll put him out sooner than later.

Alex carey is nothing soecial but ofc ur gira sucking mindset ll make u believe they sre greatest
Carey's 2023 wtc innings is greater then anything rizzu will ever do.

He is not great but to act like he doesnt walk into the Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh team is downright hilarious. (Your own words were that other sides wouldnt accept him)

Rizwan and babar avg high in test 40+ solely due to the flat track era that ramiz designed for Babar. Under ramiz babar and rizwan were avg 70 and 50+ not realising that khawaja was avg 105, Brooks Bradman was avg 150+, root avg 200+. It was only after aqib jabed created minefields that things settled down.

Since then both babar and rizwam's test avg have fallen drastically, however despite falling drastically, They havent been good.

As soon as ramiz left their was a time period before aqib intervened. Excluding the first Test against England, the Pakistani test pitches were still batting friendly case in point Bangladesh series.

Babar flunked it, Rizwan avg 40 in that series but he averaged 19 in the series against England.

Unlike wi doctored pitches, the pitches vs England were bad for 2nd and 3rd, they were spin friendly and similar to indian conditons.

It was poor batting from England as KG and Saud had no issues on such pitches.

Carey is far far > Rizwam.and both babar and rizzu are 30+ avg batters in test, thats it.

In odi and t20 Rizwan is > Carey but Carey isnt an odi and t20 keeper. Aus have replaced him with inglis for a whole now but in ct played them together as they work well with each other, both of them.have been the most succesful lower order partnership duo in recent times.
 
2nd day is best for batting side. But one wicket can start the collapsed and my money on Cummins to get the breakthrough.
Atm SA has an advantage. If they can get a lead today, Aus will be toast by day 3.
 
Cummins has the last laugh... Bavuma gone... I think Saffers will be back in the dugout before 150
 
@jeeteshssaxena

Told you he'll fail in wtc. He's just another rizwan in test cricket although not as ugly in batting.

Played for that 37 avg and now its over.
 
@jeeteshssaxena

Told you he'll fail in wtc. He's just another rizwan in test cricket although not as ugly in batting.

Played for that 37 avg and now its over.
When did i say he will score a hundred in WTC.

You called him a walking wicket in test and i replied saying that this has not been a case in the past 12 months because he actually has done well.

Why did you get triggered at that? And why do you think this was even a taunt at you?

You can quote the post too if you want.

Secondly he scored 36, good enough for someone you call a walking wicket on a difficult pitch.
 
When did i say he will score a hundred in WTC.

You called him a walking wicket in test and i replied saying that this has not been a case in the past 12 months because he actually has done well.

Why did you get triggered at that? And why do you think this was even a taunt at you?

You can quote the post too if you want.

Secondly he scored 36, good enough for someone you call a walking wicket on a difficult pitch.
I didnt get triggered, nor did I take it as a Taunt. I just don't agree with him being even semi decent.

I don't rate any of his performances in the past 12 months in the same way I dont care about shan masood scoring 150 vs England and avg 37 in test cricket for Pakistan in recent times and being their 2nd best test batter statistically after rizzu in past 12 months.

He is rubbish and 100x worse then Agha, in the same way bavuma is possibly one of the worst players to ever represent SA.

Not trying to be racist but its only because hes a black batsmen that he gains any attention.

SA has amazing.black bowlers and white batsmen, but their black batters of the past have been doo doo. Bavuma therefore looks like a goat in comparison 🤣
 
36 runs scored is not a total failure under current circumstances . Today he was playing nicely before a soft dismissal .
He just isnt a good batsmen for SA. SA has a talent pool that can easily replace him.

Its just that hes ⚫️ and SA hasnt had any black batsmen that can even avg 15, hence bavuma seems like a goat in comparison.
 
And umpires too right?

So why isn’t the umpire’s call not applied here?
Because the technology is deemed accurate enough to pick up on the edges. Tracking on the other hand is supposedly not absolutely accurate for marginal decisions so the umpire's judgement is considered key to decision making.

At least this is how ICC would explain it.
 
He just isnt a good batsmen for SA. SA has a talent pool that can easily replace him.

Its just that hes ⚫️ and SA hasnt had any black batsmen that can even avg 15, hence bavuma seems like a goat in comparison.
He is not any ATG or anything special but played well in the current cycle. He has 2nd best batting AVG in current WTCcycle.
 
Cricviz said yesterday was the 2nd toughest bowling on an opening day of an England Test since 2005

Conditions not that easy for batting.
 
Carey's 2023 wtc innings is greater then anything rizzu will ever do.

He is not great but to act like he doesnt walk into the Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh team is downright hilarious. (Your own words were that other sides wouldnt accept him)

Rizwan and babar avg high in test 40+ solely due to the flat track era that ramiz designed for Babar. Under ramiz babar and rizwan were avg 70 and 50+ not realising that khawaja was avg 105, Brooks Bradman was avg 150+, root avg 200+. It was only after aqib jabed created minefields that things settled down.

Since then both babar and rizwam's test avg have fallen drastically, however despite falling drastically, They havent been good.

As soon as ramiz left their was a time period before aqib intervened. Excluding the first Test against England, the Pakistani test pitches were still batting friendly case in point Bangladesh series.

Babar flunked it, Rizwan avg 40 in that series but he averaged 19 in the series against England.

Unlike wi doctored pitches, the pitches vs England were bad for 2nd and 3rd, they were spin friendly and similar to indian conditons.

It was poor batting from England as KG and Saud had no issues on such pitches.

Carey is far far > Rizwam.and both babar and rizzu are 30+ avg batters in test, thats it.

In odi and t20 Rizwan is > Carey but Carey isnt an odi and t20 keeper. Aus have replaced him with inglis for a whole now but in ct played them together as they work well with each other, both of them.have been the most succesful lower order partnership duo in recent times.
He wont get into pak ind srl england nz and thats true. He ll be replaced as soon as aus finds a decent replacement or as soon as inglis gets going
 
And umpires too right?

So why isn’t the umpire’s call not applied here?
Edge is an event that actually took place meanwhile ball tracking is just a prediction which might vary because it cant be definite
There is avceotable error of plus minus 0.05 ig and it ball is predicted be hitting more than 59 percent so even with the error it ll continue to hit but if the ball is hitting less than 50 percent then with error it might not hit so then the umpire call is used.
 
He wont get into pak ind srl england nz and thats true. He ll be replaced as soon as aus finds a decent replacement or as soon as inglis gets going
Unless nepotism is at play, he'd shove rizzu aside in a heartbeat. Theirs a reason no serious side ever selects rizwan in leagues.

Rizzu is fortunate that their is no test league at play. Otherwise that reality would have been exposed as well.

His wtc 2023 innings alone is > what most keepers from minnow teams in international cricket would play.

Also dont know why you're bringing in NZ when I clearly referenced minnow test teams. Nz is a strong test team with a decent keeper bat.
 
He is not any ATG or anything special but played well in the current cycle. He has 2nd best batting AVG in current WTCcycle.
Yes and No.

His 58 avg is solid, but SA didnt make it into WTC fairly.

I like wtc as a format but only edition 1 and 2 were good. SA found a loophole and tried to cheese it.

Pakistan is also copying and trying to cheese it although Pakistan will fail cause they suck.

Main problem is Eng, India, Aus despite being the 3 strongest cannot cheese it because ashes, BGT, and India vs England now called (TA) will 100% be a normal occurrence.

So while these 3 are duking it out, NZ, SA, Pak, WI will try to cut corners
 
@mominsaigol if you think SA has great white players then why do all of them average in the 30s?

I think Bavuma makes it into SA team based on performances.
Its extremely easy to tell that the likes of makram, Ryan rickelton are more talented then Bavuma in all formats. If SA grooms them and gives them good batting positions they'll all avg better then Bavuma.

Bavuma is the rizwan of SA.
 
Cricviz said yesterday was the 2nd toughest bowling on an opening day of an England Test since 2005

Conditions not that easy for batting.
i like this condition ... real battle between bat and ball...

Pakistan vs India... 5 test matches series in England.. Just Imagine :D

Bigger than Aussies :P
 
on serious note... this would be a tough competition... India has edge in batting but Pakistani bowlers always perform better in England .. so it is 50/50..
 
on serious note... this would be a tough competition... India has edge in batting but Pakistani bowlers always perform better in England .. so it is 50/50..
India test batting standard nowadays same as pakistan apart from Jaiswal .
 
I can confirmed the New version of Duke ball for INDIA - England series but not sure about this.
I think it is. Last time an opening day of a Test match had such difficult batting conditions was back in 2018 when that Dukes ball was swinging and seaming around corners.

The quality had come down dramatically in 2022,2023, 2024.

Also, do you have any source for the new version of the Dukes ball ?
 
Cummins again!
Cummins is easily the best old ball bowler in test cricket.

Bumrah is better with the new ball, Cummins is a master with the old ball.

Ps: Indian fans, no i am not stating Cummins > Bumrah. Bumrah is obviously better. Just pointing out a fact.
 
Gotta appreciate Bedingham, easily SA's best lower order batter in test cricket. Unlike that fraud Bavuma
 
Goat bowling by Cummins, 5 ferry, turned the game around. Australia will win this
 
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