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South Africa [496/3d & 247/6d] beat Bangladesh [320 & 90] by 333 runs in the first Test

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Bangladesh have won the toss and have opted to field

Teams:

Bangladesh (Playing XI): Imrul Kayes, Tamim Iqbal, Mominul Haque, Mahmudullah, Mushfiqur Rahim(c), Liton Das(w), Mehidy Hasan, Taskin Ahmed, Mustafizur Rahman, Shafiul Islam, Rubel Hossain

South Africa (Playing XI): Aiden Markram, Dean Elgar, Hashim Amla, Temba Bavuma, Faf du Plessis(c), Quinton de Kock(w), Andile Phehlukwayo, Keshav Maharaj, Kagiso Rabada, Morne Morkel, Duanne Olivier

Aiden Markram and Andile Phehlukwayo are making their Test debuts for South Africa.
 
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Big test for SLs new found confidence in Tests
 
Bangladesh is going to be thrashed i think.Mustafizur should have taken bowling.Negative attitude on batting friendly condition.
 
Almost forgot about this.

Good to see Markram making the best of his debut. Apparently, he's tipped to be next big thing from SA.
 
This thread is a bit quiet.

Anyway score is 125/0, why is Mushfiqur not giving Shakib a bowl ?
 
Team management are stupid. They should have opted for batting after winning the toss. Now they surely be thrashed under 600+ runs. Mushfiq should be fired from captaining. So defensive. Not even trying by part timers. :facepalm:
 
There should be at least 3 centuries and 1 double century in SA innings. Mushfiq should be sacked as Captain.
 
It's just disgusting.... blaming COACH for everything... nonsense stuff..... players don't perform but u find a way to shift the blame from players to coach....
Ridiculous
 
Moral victory to us - didn't allow them 300 in a day & didn't allow them to go wicket less for 1st day of a Test.
 
AIDEN MARKRAM ticked an important box for the Standard Bank Proteas when he scored 97 on debut before being unluckily run out and sharing a first-wicket stand of 196 with Dean Elgar.

With Elgar going on to his 9th Test century and his 4th this year the Proteas were comfortably placed at stumps, having being sent into bat and finishing the day on 298 for the loss of Markram’s wicket.

It was the first time the Proteas had had an opening partnership in excess of 150 in the past seven years. What really stood out was the mastery and composure of Markram who looked as though he had spent all his life playing Test cricket. And, if there was disappointment in not getting to three figures this time, it was little more than a blips on the way to what promises to be an outstanding career.
Markram’s 97 came off 152 balls (13 fours) and the partnership was worth 196 in 54.2 overs.

Elgar batted through to the close (128 off 285 balls, 9 fours and 2 sixes) and shared a follow up partnership of 102 with Hashim Amla (68 off 103 balls, 7 fours and a six). Elgar has now gone past Cheteshwar Pujara of India as the leading runs scorer in Test cricket this year and needs another 5 for an aggregate of 900 runs at an average in excess of 52.

The run out was the closest Bangladesh came to taking a wicket as their attack posed few problems on a pitch, that apart for some uneven bounce, was ideal for batting.

The Proteas also gave a first cap to Andile Phehlukwayo in the all-rounder spot and the pair become the 97th and 98th player to represent the Proteas in Test cricket.
 
Bangladesh need to find some pacers. Absolutely no way should you only manage one wicket in a day's play in South Africa.
 
Fizz was superb on a tough day. He looked another level to any other pacer on show - across all broadcasts.
 
The pitch was an absolute road so stop being harsh on the Bangladeshi pacers. Taskin and Mustafizur are pretty good.
 
Well Just in Case if people were wondering what the situation was after day 1.

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The good news, however, is that as they say in cricket 'we only judge a pitch after both sides have batted' :)) :))

This should be a sticky thread, just for the heck of it :ma :yk
 
LOL at bangladesh!! At least they should have picked a wicket or 2! This is embarrassing!!
 
Almost all Cricket playing nations now a days remain tiger in home condition and whenever they go abroad become cat.
 
rajimam said:
Almost all Cricket playing nations now a days remain tiger in home condition and whenever they go abroad become cat.
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Saffers won in Aus ,also they haven't lost to Bangla in Bangla not sure what u on,they are the only decent touring team.
 
JaDed said:
Saffers won in Aus ,also they haven't lost to Bangla in Bangla not sure what u on,they are the only decent touring team.
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India also here and there but I am not fully convinced about them except in West Indies.
 
JaDed said:
Amla padding his average.. congrats to the lad!
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He's an excellent Test batsman averages about 50 overall and has the following averages in these countries:

India: 62.73
England: 60.33
Australia: 45.87
UAE: 78.40
 
Silly Amla. Should have got an easy double ton here. Needs to learn from the master FTBs of the world...

shaz619 said:
Bangladesh being mauled here, they can't buy a wicket
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They definitely can. It'll cost them over a hundred runs each though.
 
Bilal7 said:
Silly Amla. Should have got an easy double ton here. Needs to learn from the master FTBs of the world...



They definitely can. It'll cost them over a hundred runs each though.
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One was a run out and the other was a fluke and now it's too late to be taking wickets :yk2 Bangladesh is Bangladeshing :yk
 
shaz619 said:
One was a run out and the other was a fluke and now it's too late to be taking wickets :yk2 Bangladesh is Bangladeshing :yk
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I don't like trolling our younger brothers. :sanga

Please desist.
 
Bilal7 said:
I don't like trolling our younger brothers. :sanga

Please desist.
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To be honest I've been excited for this series was disappointed when Shakib took his ball home, is there another Test or is this only one ? Surely they will improve on this performance, plus they are a well oiled machine compared to BD sides in the past
 
Oh, SA have declared to great to see; big hearts :afridi BD should bat out of their skins here, everything is on Tamims shoulders hope he gets a big score
 
shaz619 said:
Oh, SA have declared to great to see; big hearts :afridi BD should bat out of their skins here, everything is on Tamims shoulders hope he gets a big score
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Go back to berating this BD side, it's no fun when you're being lenient with them :sanga

This is beyond a joke from BD. Only thing that'll make it worse is if they get out for 200 or so.
 
And these fans describe Indians as lambs on overseas conditions. Even at their worst, Indians bowl out their opposition in overseas conditions.
 
squarecut said:
Even at their worst, Indians bowl out their opposition in overseas conditions.
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That's why so many wins in recent years in SA, Aus, NZ and Eng?

Main reason for India not winning many games despite dominating was failure to take 20 wickets. Anyway, being better than BD is not really saying much here.
 
Not bad, 50 in 12th over - looks like we are trying to win the match. Not a bad start, just need to do it for another 170 overs or so, to put pressure on SAF on last day.

Mushi actually knew it, his Coach as well - well thought out plan.
 
We have long, long way to learn the game - it was stupid for the opener out of field when declaration was a possibility. I am sure, Mushi or even Hathura didn't know the rule, neither Tamim and these are Captain, coach & deputy of a Test side!!!!
 
MMHS said:
Not bad, 50 in 12th over - looks like we are trying to win the match. Not a bad start, just need to do it for another 170 overs or so, to put pressure on SAF on last day.

Mushi actually knew it, his Coach as well - well thought out plan.
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Seriously, I am confused as well. BD needs to bat for a long time to try to save this game. Making a quick 350 all out will help SA more than taking much longer time to make 300.
 
Buffet said:
Seriously, I am confused as well. BD needs to bat for a long time to try to save this game. Making a quick 350 all out will help SA more than taking much longer time to make 300.
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Test cricket is a culture, more than a game. I am sure, most current teams will do the same in similar situation - that's throw bat & try to reduce deficit.

When I started to grow my interest for Test, the critical decision making factor for me was that this is a game of character - 4 slips & 2 gullies with whose ground open for making runs .... still why top players shoulder arms to an out swinger? It's not that Gavaskar or Javed or Viv or AB are dumb - that actually was the start to know the game in-depth.

Our boys will never learn to play out time, because these generation started playing cricket seriously in T20 era & that culture hasn't been embedded in the thought process. I am sure the strategy is to play out time (That's the only explanation to put SAF in), but execution can't happen unless you master that in FC system. If they try to play out time, probably will get out cheaper - rather this isn't worse, score quickly & try to reach the critical mark (follow-on) - then stop SAF build up lead quickly.
 
Buffet said:
That's why so many wins in recent years in SA, Aus, NZ and Eng?

Main reason for India not winning many games despite dominating was failure to take 20 wickets. Anyway, being better than BD is not really saying much here.
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In last ten years, India have beaten Australia, South Africa and New Zealand once each, and England twice. In this century, India have won more tests abroad (14) than the total test matches won by Bangladesh throughout their test history.
 
I am really surprised - how people justify that this guy Mahraj is in SAF team for his skin color. Easily he is twice the spiner, when it comes to plan an attack & set up batsmen than any other spinner from ENG, AUS & NZ, barring Lyon.
 
squarecut said:
In last ten years, India have beaten Australia, South Africa and New Zealand once each, and England twice. In this century, India have won more tests abroad (14) than the total test matches won by Bangladesh throughout their test history.
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What's your point? IND played 1st Test in 1934, won 1st Test in 1951. Won first Test away from home in 1967 ....
 
squarecut said:
In last ten years, India have beaten Australia, South Africa and New Zealand once each, and England twice. In this century, India have won more tests abroad (14) than the total test matches won by Bangladesh throughout their test history.
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Did India fail to win many tests in the last few years due to not able to take 20 wickets? Answer is resounding yes. India needs to improve a lot to capitalize on their strong batting.

Not sure what's the point of talking about winning more than BD here. Next you will point out that India has won more than Scotland.
 
These Kookaburra balls should be banned from International cricket. It's bad for Test & worse for ODI - for most of recent one sided ODI these days, that machine stitched ball is one main reason. May be, only for 20 overs game it can stay, because it's harder for 20 overs.
 
The question asked was how many away matches has India won against Autralia South Africa, New Zealand and England. If you check the players profiles, the Indian players who have won these test matches abroad are not playing cricket since 1934, but since last few years only, just like the players of every other team.
 
squarecut said:
The question asked was how many away matches has India won against Autralia South Africa, New Zealand and England. If you check the players profiles, the Indian players who have won these test matches abroad are not playing cricket since 1934, but since last few years only, just like the players of every other team.
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I understand, no issues, just don't bring BD for every negative stats, which automatically brings a comparison.
 
This guy Oliver has exceptional FC stats, but must be a green track bully. This guy can't average 21 with ball in SAF domestics bowling even 25% matches on good wickets.
 
MMHS said:
What's your point? IND played 1st Test in 1934, won 1st Test in 1951. Won first Test away from home in 1967 ....
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Which is true. they probably played less than 100 matches during those 33 years, whereas Bangladesh has already played 100+ matches. First twenty years of those cricket playing days were spent either fighting for independence or dealing with losing half its country. I am sure cricket was last on its or populace mind. India also managed to draw a lot of matches whereas BD seems to lose a lot of matches. May be later today i will pull up some statistics to see how India fared in the same number of matches as BD, but i am sure they drew more matches had a better W/L ratio (not that that W/L was anything to be proud of)

BD actually has a much more passionate fan base and a good board backing them. BD cricket is also financially self reliant and confident setup. I am honestly surprised they have not been doing better than they have. Zimbabawe, i am sure, has done better compared to them
 
Buffet said:
Did India fail to win many tests in the last few years due to not able to take 20 wickets? Answer is resounding yes. India needs to improve a lot to capitalize on their strong batting.

Not sure what's the point of talking about winning more than BD here. Next you will point out that India has won more than Scotland.
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That is very much true. India recently was not able to close out a test match in WI. They also lost an opportunity to win test series in Australia due to their poor bowling
 
MMHS said:
This guy Oliver has exceptional FC stats, but must be a green track bully. This guy can't average 21 with ball in SAF domestics bowling even 25% matches on good wickets.
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Law of averages to kick in tomorrow and he cleans up the entire team :P

Seriously though, I'm not sure what to make of him at this stage. Suppose he should be given a half decent run.
 
I think BD should start developing totally different team for Test matches. They seem to lose sessions due to their batsman's LOI mentality. They had a good opportunity to end second day with no more than one wicket loss and would have been in a fairly good position to compete by playing time tomorrow. I remember they also lost a test match in NZ after competing so well for first three days. Most of the current BD team members are brought up with LOI diet.
 
Gubol123 said:
Which is true. they probably played less than 100 matches during those 33 years, whereas Bangladesh has already played 100+ matches. First twenty years of those cricket playing days were spent either fighting for independence or dealing with losing half its country. I am sure cricket was last on its or populace mind. India also managed to draw a lot of matches whereas BD seems to lose a lot of matches. May be later today i will pull up some statistics to see how India fared in the same number of matches as BD, but i am sure they drew more matches had a better W/L ratio (not that that W/L was anything to be proud of)

BD actually has a much more passionate fan base and a good board backing them. BD cricket is also financially self reliant and confident setup. I am honestly surprised they have not been doing better than they have. Zimbabawe, i am sure, has done better compared to them
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Without going to the stats, I can tell you that - lot, lot more draws. But, apart from cricket skills, you have to consider many other factors in that. We started playing Test when the game was a bit standardized - 450 overs, lost time make up, extended hours for slow over rate, strict regulations on over rate/time waste, super sopper, flood light, neutral umpires ..... it's really tough to bail out a draw for the underdogs these days. Besides, apart from SRL & ZIM, every other country started Test cricket as the only format of the game - our boys had to deal with 3. Against direct stats, try to figure out the context of the game, before putting the final judgement. For example take this Test - 20 years back, 65 overs would have been lost by now, with no make up in Day 3, 4 & 5.....

On record, in first 12 years (Before 1947), IND actually played 9 or 10 Tests - rest are after 1948, but I understand your point.
 
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MMHS said:
Without going to the stats, I can tell you that - lot, lot more draws. But, apart from cricket skills, you have to consider many other factors in that. We started playing Test when the game was a bit standardized - 450 overs, lost time make up, extended hours for slow over rate, strict regulations on over rate/time waste, super sopper, flood light, neutral umpires ..... it's really tough to bail out a draw for the underdogs these days. Besides, apart from SRL & ZIM, every other country started Test cricket as the only format of the game - our boys had to deal with 3. Against direct stats, try to figure out the context of the game, before putting the final judgement. For example take this Test - 20 years back, 65 overs would have been lost by now, with no make up in Day 3, 4 & 5.....

On record, in first 12 years (Before 1947), IND actually played 9 or 10 Tests - rest are after 1948, but I understand your point.
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i think that is the problem. almost all other countries had a good test footing before they ventured onto LOIs. But BD and Zimbabwe had a LOI footing before venturing into test. That is why we see so many BD players bringing the same attitude to test cricket. It is wrong attitude that BD needs to fix than skills. Once the attitude is fixed the skills will follow. They have a very good cricket setup. it is just a matter of all coming together and clicking for them. If and when that happens, they will do very well in test.
 
shaz619 said:
He's an excellent Test batsman averages about 50 overall and has the following averages in these countries:

India: 62.73
England: 60.33
Australia: 45.87
UAE: 78.40
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He defn is,but just the logic of some below 50 not ATG,unless some diff variables will come into play there.
 
Amla is a legend, if any sane person disagrees with me, then you are wrong.
 
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