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South Africa versus India - Second test (Day 5)

Light dropped from 16 to 13 in four minute. If it goes below 8 players would be offered.

update: Reading 11 now ....
 
Sreesanth gets hit on arm and now more time wasting will occur.
 
Physio is out treating Sree ... might help convincing umpire that ball is not visible.

It's getting funny ....
 
Rob H said:
Christ almighty. This is as bad as Moin Khan in Karachi.

It's all good till it's legal. Saffies did the same to India in 97 series and managed a draw.

Smith biting all of his nails ...
 
Ntini and sreesanth mouthing off at each other now!

hilarious stuff!

India 177/8
 
Z khan gone.

gets a good ball from nel and its taken at 2nd slip.

Hall takes the catch.

india 9 down.
 
Amazing celebrations by the proteas. What on earth was Zaheer doing though. Very good short ball by Nel.
 
India 179/9

id laugh my balls off if india get a draw now!
 
edge and gone to the keeper. Sreesanth gone. Hall strikes. SA win. :))) at India
 
Hall on and takes a wicket 1st ball.

S.A go nuts!

S.A win by 174 runs and level series 1-1
 
Sree never hit that..........it goes to show the poor umpiring in this match to both sides.

Well done SA.
 
Great win by the Afrikanns, well deserved.. Indians did the same mistake as what they did against Pakistan in the bangalore test, tried to play for the draw during that test while it was for the lights in this one, instead of going for the win. It showed with the loss today that positive cricket was needed... With the series 1-1 we are in for a cracker, hopefully we will take the next one.....
 
Rob H said:
Rough decision but for all his timewasting it was just desserts.

losers like sree deserve this. World best batting lineup couldn't pass 250 in 4 innings so far.
 
AWAN IN A MILLION said:
LoL! India back into their groove.

Another memorable contribution by Tendulkar during India's hour of need.
What a year Tendu had without playing against Bangladesh. :P
 
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YEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAA

Great stuff.

Certainly puts us in the driving seat for the 3rd Test where India will have it all to do. Cricinfo seems remarkably quiet about this game....didn't they have like a 700 million word special report after the 1st Test?

Justice has been done today due to a) Indian timewasting b) Sreesanth acting like a baby even though he could clearly see the ball and c) Indian arrogance after the 1st Test.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Great win by the Afrikanns, well deserved.. Indians did the same mistake as what they did against Pakistan in the bangalore test, tried to play for the draw during that test while it was for the lights in this one, instead of going for the win. It showed with the loss today that positive cricket was needed... With the series 1-1 we are in for a cracker, hopefully we will take the next one.....

Hopefully we will, Munaf will be back. I hope Indias bad decisions agaisnt them in the 4th innings (even SA knew that was'nt out), comes back to bite them.
 
plz some body start another thread to congrats SA. They played brilliant cricket even when two days were lost. So they beat India in just about 3 days.
 
India have come back down with a CRASH... LoL LoL!

All that bull I was hearing after the first test! Good!

Well done SA.
 
Playa said:
Hopefully we will, Munaf will be back. I hope Indias bad decisions agaisnt them in the 4th innings (even SA knew that was'nt out), comes back to bite them.

I really think India should have won this match.....
Sreesanth bowled beautifully but both indian batsmen and umpiring were pthetic......
Nel Vs Sresanth and all associated bias from **** sahib directed towards sresanth selectively was really pthetic.....that was very poor from SA and umpires and again asad rauf....i m sorry but he is a *****....not capable of umpiring at international level......i have seen it so many times....he can raise his finger to any sort of appeal, if the bowler happens to be white and pressurizes him by dancing infornt of him....poor....
 
Long_Live_Pakistan said:
I really think India should have won this match.....
Sreesanth bowled beautifully but both indian batsmen and umpiring were pthetic......
Nel Vs Sresanth and all associated bias from **** sahib directed towards sresanth selectively was really pthetic.....that was very poor from SA and umpires and again asad rauf....i m sorry but he is a *****....not capable of umpiring at international level......i have seen it so many times....he can raise his finger to any sort of appeal, if the bowler happens to be white and pressurizes him by dancing infornt of him....poor....

Thanks.........India's batting let the fans and thier whole team down, the batting really messed it up which might have won the series for India, and now we are tied 1-1 with 1 match to go. Questions has to be asked about the umpiring, Dravid, Sreesanth was not out, Tendulkar's decision was questionable, India was robbed a lot of lbw appeals, SA aswell had some decisions go agaisnt them.

Nel is a idoit anyway, he as always been like that. Sreesanth wants to fightback, and he too sometimes goes over the top.

The umpiring was very pathfetic, something which as let asian teams down when they tour overseas, mostly in Australia, which they have got some history there.
 
Not the first time this year that India's batting was unable to bear the pressure. Reminds me of a piece Amit Varma wrote earlier this year:

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/englandinindia/story/0,,1724092,00.html

England pressure can exploit fourth-innings frailties


Amit Varma
Sunday March 5, 2006
The Observer

The last timeEngland toured India, in 2001-02, the fifth day of the Ahmedabad Test began with India needing 357 to win with all their wickets intact. If England declare overnight, as expected, India will need 368 to win today. Five years ago England set defensive fields and India, already a game up in the series, batted cautiously to a draw. This time the tourists should press for a win. India's miserable record batting fourth demands it.

India's batting line-up first took shape in 2002, when Virender Sehwag opened the batting against England at Lord's. Since then, they have been asked to chase more than 300 runs six times, and have lost five times and drawn once, when the chase wasn't realistic and they had only eight overs to survive. The records of all the batsmen in this side, with the exception of Rahul Dravid, are abysmal when it comes to the fourth innings. And the worry starts at the top.

Sehwag has batted in the fourth innings of a Test match 13 times in his career, averaging a meagre 26, less than half his average otherwise. He has just one half-century to his name, against Australia in Nagpur in 2004-05, when the fourth innings, with India needing 543 on a green top, began as a lost cause. Sehwag has won India many games with his explosive batting at the top of the order, but these have mainly come in his side's first innings. Put him under pressure and he struggles to perform, either poking around tentatively or, as the three stumpings among his 11 fourth-innings dismissals indicate, being over-aggressive.

Sachin Tendulkar fares a little better. The first century of his career was a match-saving 119 against England in the fourth innings of the Old Trafford Test in 1990, but he didn't go on as he had started, and averages 34.5 in 36 fourth innings. Barring his Manchester century, he has just one other fourth-innings hundred to his name: a brilliant 136 against Pakistan in Chennai in 1998-99, which came in a lost cause as he battled back spasms and a high turnover at the other end. Besides these two centuries, he has passed 50 in the fourth innings of a Test only twice, both times in losing causes.

VVS Laxman is also 'Very Very Shaky' when it comes to chasing down a target on the last day of a Test. He's been in that situation 19 times, and averages just 27.9, with no centuries. One of his efforts helped India win a Test - indeed, a series - when his 66 helped India chase down 155 to beat Australia at Chennai in 2001. But although he has bailed India out of many crises since, none has come in the last innings.

The only Indian who inspires confidence in a chase is Dravid. He has batted 32 times in the fourth innings of a Test and averages 47, an outstanding indicator of his temperament under pressure. His most famous knock in a chase was 72 not out against Australia in Adelaide in 2003-04, a win he had set up with 233 in the first innings. India won that Test by only four wickets, as a visibly fatigued Dravid kept on going as wickets fell at the other end. For years now, he has been India's most responsible batsman, and captaincy will only enhance that. Of course, it might add to the pressure.

In an ideal morning for England, Sehwag would get out early with an injudicious shot, exposing Dravid to the new ball, to which he would succumb. And the rest would sigh and follow. But India have a couple of surprises up their sleeve. They have experimented with sending Mahendra Singh Dhoni and Irfan Pathan up the order in one-day matches recently, and they might do the same here. Dhoni, especially, is capable of turning a match in a session, but as India's other batsmen know so well, pressure does strange things to capabilities. England must pile it on.
 
Long_Live_Pakistan said:
I really think India should have won this match.....
Sreesanth bowled beautifully but both indian batsmen and umpiring were pthetic......
Nel Vs Sresanth and all associated bias from **** sahib directed towards sresanth selectively was really pthetic.....that was very poor from SA and umpires and again asad rauf....i m sorry but he is a *****....not capable of umpiring at international level......i have seen it so many times....he can raise his finger to any sort of appeal, if the bowler happens to be white and pressurizes him by dancing infornt of him....poor....

How did you come to that conclusion?

SA were by far the better team, they out played India and deserved to win this match.
 
When SA win this series against India...they will be supremely confident and look who is touring SA.........PAKISTAN........Best result for us would be a drawn series!!!
 
lutonbadboy said:
When SA win this series against India...they will be supremely confident and look who is touring SA.........PAKISTAN........Best result for us would be a drawn series!!!

The series is not over yet..............
 
Really pathetic performance by us...repeating same mistakes time and again.....Top order was crap in pressure situtaions...even now I am convinced that Tendulkar can't play in pressure situations......

Apart from the top order, i am esp baffled by Dhoni. he did all the hard work and just 2 balls before tea, he played a horrible stroke......he should ahev known that only half an hour batting after tea would be enough for a draw....

Now looking ahead....time for couple of changes...

Sehwag must be dropped(and not rested)......Munaf in place of VRV and hope the batting will click for a change!
 
India din deserve to loose this one.....indian top order failed in the secn innings , but other than that we played better cricket......never seen such bias umpiring ,we have easily taken 30 SA wickets in this match..they shud have never crossed 200 in the first innings..if this continues ,we stand no chance in the third test as well ....mark my words , pak will will not be allowed to win a match in SA !
 
jusarrived said:
India din deserve to loose this one.....indian top order failed in the secn innings , but other than that we played better cricket......never seen such bias umpiring ,we have easily taken 30 SA wickets in this match..they shud have never crossed 200 in the first innings..if this continues ,we stand no chance in the third test as well ....mark my words , pak will will not be allowed to win a match in SA !
Disagree! Indian top order has been absymal right through out the year and here it has been no exception. With such batting we won't be able to win games...also playing out of form batsman like Sehwag n tendulkar is also a reason for disaster. Mainly we didn't hold the key moment well....the pitch was not that difficult....lower order showed that.....bad umpiring as excuse won't do....
 
jusarrived said:
India din deserve to loose this one.....indian top order failed in the secn innings , but other than that we played better cricket......never seen such bias umpiring ,we have easily taken 30 SA wickets in this match..they shud have never crossed 200 in the first innings..if this continues ,we stand no chance in the third test as well ....mark my words , pak will will not be allowed to win a match in SA !
"mark my words , pak will will not be allowed to win a match in SA"

If they play well they will win just like India did in first test.
 
Indian batting is to blame here. They didn't passed 250 runs in 4 innings played so far and u can't expect bowlers to bowl out teams for under 100 again and again. Pathetic form of Dravid and Sehwag is another concern.
 
I would rather blame Indian top order for the defeat. They are consistently exposing Dravid/ Tendulkar/ Laxman to a new ball. Sehwag looks to slash almost every ball to boundary and doesn't try to stay to wicket at all. If openers can manage to stay 25+ overs at crease, I am sure we have enough resources to reach a good total. As of now there's too much reliance on Laxman and if he fails, we would be just be like we were today i.e. around 180 total. and accept it, we are among worst test playing nations when it comes to batting out in 4th innings. Regarding bad umpiring, we honestly I don't think that could have made a difference in match's outcome. Cricket is a team game, you don't need to rely on just one player to bail you out of trouble.
I still feel we can defeat this SA team. They as vulnerable as we are. One good opening stand 3rd test can be ours. And this logic applies to Pak team as well. They would require good openers to shield there middle order else it's gonna be pretty much same story.
 
kablooee87 said:
Now for Ganguly to make a semi-decent score which is ultimately futile and his supporters pointing to Tendulkar's duck to justify Ganguly's eternal exclusion.

What, a guy can dream can't he?
I guess dreams do come true.
 
Ganguly played such an irresponsible innings when his job was just to defend
 
amusing to see Cricinfo not interviewing every aira ghaira about how India has finally turned the corner. wonder where all those special reports and interviews went?

on the other hand, if India manage to win the last test and the series, I expect Cricinfo to have some major orgasms.
 
It is an expected result. Batting last against Ntini and co is no mean task. India's only chance was to bat first and put Saffers under pressure in 4th innings. But even given that two dreadful decisions to the captain of the side did not help their cause either. To be honest India put up a great fight. South Africa constantly had to bark like dogs in the field to distract indians through out the second innings. What all they talked to Indian batsmen. Nel said to jaffer "You can't handle the pressure man" on to his face. You know what. They stood like men bar few "super stars" and fought the battle real hard.


India is also placing "false hopes on known failures" in the line up . Sehwag a known failure, Jaffer another failure keep getting chances endlessly.
 
Khalil said:
Ganguly played such an irresponsible innings when his job was just to defend


he is not a team player ... his objective was just to score a few runs so as to have an excuse not to get dropped. he never intended on staying at the crease.
 
jackal786 said:
Jaffer another failure keep getting chances endlessly.

Is he a failure?
Given the context of this series, I guess he did a decent job by batting out 20 overs in this match. If we had another operner like him, it would have been great job of taking the shine off the ball, allowing Dravid to come after 20th over.
 
watching the highlights now.

Tendulkar: this must be the umpteenth time, he squatted or jumped like a pansy when he is either lbwed or bowled. A shot unbecoming of one of the greatest batsmen ever

jaffer: what a ridiculous shot. The target is too save the game ya moron.

Laxman: thought the ball kept low when in fact it hit the bails. We also got another exhibition of 'The Face'

ganguly: cowardly shot. Guided the ball to gully. Probably did'nt want to stick around.

kumble: got a good ball. hanged around as much as he could.

dhoni: same as jaffer

zaheer: nothing shot but did stick around with dhoni and sreesanth

Sreesanth: incorrectly given caught behind when the ball hit the shoulder.

If the top order should the same resilience as kumble, zaheer and sreesanth then india would have saved this game.


Expect a cracker in cape town
 
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I sincerely hope that the match referee sits down with both captains, both coaches and certain players and the umpires and explains to them the expected levels of behaviour from international cricketers.

Some of the theatrics and behaviour during this test have been absolutely shocking and a disgrace to the name of cricket. I'm all for agression and the will to win, but I dont particularly enjoy watching grown men acting like 6 year olds in the playground.
 
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