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South Africa vs India | 1st test | Chennai | 26/3/2008 to 30/3/2008

Wow, what BCCI is thinking . Such a boring test match between two wonderful test playing nations .
 
Just curious - why does everyone blame the BCCI for the pitches? I thought the curators of each ground work for the respective regional associations, not the BCCI? What does the BCCI have to do with pitch preparation?
 
saffer said:
India getting a few easy boundaries due to S.a have 5 slips and gullies . Steyn up to 146 now .
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Wow the supposed to be terrorizer upto 146, our 19 year old kid Ishant seems faster than that :)))
 
Wow the supposed to be terrorizer upto 146, our 19 year old kid Ishant seems faster than that
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Seems....isn't close to . This is a slow wicket and extra hot conditions . Your "world beating" """fast""" bowlers were in the 120's most of the day. Prepare a decent pitch and we'll see how great these batsmen of yours are too for that matter . I could pick any south african domestic cricket player and if they played on india wickets they'd all average above 50 against test opposition .


What a potentially good match turned into a bore festival by negative indian tactics .
 
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what a pitch. I didn't know the match was on the first day and then I was glad I didn't know it because I didn't watch it the next day. Will see on Day 5 as this is what this match about now and not good cricket
 
OZGOD said:
This will be a draw. India should bat on till Day 5 before declaring their first innings closed.
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Ya, and Saffers will get such a good TAN by then that all 11 will declare themselves eligible under COLORED quota :))
 
OZGOD said:
Just curious - why does everyone blame the BCCI for the pitches? I thought the curators of each ground work for the respective regional associations, not the BCCI? What does the BCCI have to do with pitch preparation?
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It has been alleged that BCCI instructs the curators to prepare pitches that will favor team India. I remember reading that some former Indian captain (dont remember who) had complained that Indian pitches should be tailor made to suit Indian team's strengths.
But with recent progress in India's pace attack and lack of quality spinners, I dont think BCCI would have preferred a dead track.
 
saffer said:
Seems....isn't close to . This is a slow wicket and extra hot conditions . Your "world beating" """fast""" bowlers were in the 120's most of the day. Prepare a decent pitch and we'll see how great these batsmen of yours are too for that matter . I could pick any south african domestic cricket player and if they played on india wickets they'd all average above 50 against test opposition .


What a potentially good match turned into a bore festival by negative indian tactics .
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Fruitcake

Our "world beater fast bowlers" know what it is like to beat Australia while your pretenders still havent done it soo SHHHHHHHHHHHhh :15: .. Last time I checked it was "Steyn can get wickets on any ground".. Dont make excuses Glen Mcgrath avg under 20 in Indian wickets, a champion bowler doesnt need a wicket to determine how he will get the wicket. Unfortunately for you fruitcake you dont have a 'champion' bowler so till then, if you ever get one. shut you pie hole..
 
u can throw a egg on my face or whatever

but i feel that we will see a result in this match or somewhat close to a result

just wait till tea of day 4 :D
 
Our "world beater fast bowlers" know what it is like to beat Australia while your pretenders still havent done it soo SHHHHHHHHHHHhh ..
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Yes of course we have won tests against Australia . You are sadly misinformed . You won one game and an odi series...honestly...get the hell over it !!!


Dont make excuses Glen Mcgrath avg under 20 in Indian wickets, a champion bowler doesnt need a wicket to determine how he will get the wicket. Unfortunately for you fruitcake you dont have a 'champion' bowler so till then, if you ever get one. shut you pie hole..
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The guy has bowled 5 overs and you are counting him out ? Would mgrath average 20 on this pitch ? Somehow I don't think so . You seem like a silly little teenager who's struggling with the changes going on in your body and a lot of emotional hormonal based issues . Don't worry...it will pass in time .

Who'se india's champion bowler ? Kumble ? He's pretty good for sure . You certainly don't have any good fast bowlers . S.A has 2 in the top 10 which you obviously seem to envy through your teeth. Try Johnson and Johnson baby shampoo .....it's ensures that you will have "no more tears" on the bottle .
 
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saffer.. everyone in real life is polite..

but when u r on internet.. and u have these opposition ppl on net who keep bi!ching around, then we forget how polite we really are and just reply back how we really should..

in real life we are different.. over interenet. all are diff @ saffer
 
saffer.. everyone in real life is polite..

but when u r on internet.. and u have these opposition ppl on net who keep bi!ching around, then we forget how polite we really are and just reply back how we really should..

in real life we are different.. over interenet. all are diff @ saffer
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I hope so . Just seems a trend lately .
 
saffer said:
Yes of course we have won tests against Australia . You are sadly misinformed . You won one game and an odi series...honestly...get the hell over it !!!




The guy has bowled 5 overs and you are counting him out ? Would mgrath average 20 on this pitch ? Somehow I don't think so . You seem like a silly little teenager who's struggling with the changes going on in your body and a lot of emotional hormonal based issues . Don't worry...it will pass in time .

Who'se india's champion bowler ? Kumble ? He's pretty good for sure . You certainly don't have any good fast bowlers . S.A has 2 in the top 10 which you obviously seem to envy through your teeth. Try Johnson and Johnson baby shampoo .....it's ensures that you will have "no more tears" on the bottle .
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When was the last time Sa won a test match vs Aus ? just curios I cant remember maybe I am getting old
 
saffer said:
Yes of course we have won tests against Australia . You are sadly misinformed . You won one game and an odi series...honestly...get the hell over it !!!




The guy has bowled 5 overs and you are counting him out ? Would mgrath average 20 on this pitch ? Somehow I don't think so . You seem like a silly little teenager who's struggling with the changes going on in your body and a lot of emotional hormonal based issues . Don't worry...it will pass in time .

Who'se india's champion bowler ? Kumble ? He's pretty good for sure . You certainly don't have any good fast bowlers . S.A has 2 in the top 10 which you obviously seem to envy through your teeth. Try Johnson and Johnson baby shampoo .....it's ensures that you will have "no more tears" on the bottle .
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Mcgrath would have avged 20 in this pitch and not just that he would have had the Indian batting in a lot of strife barring SRT & Laxman ;-) . Yeah SA has 2 terrorizers who terrify the likes of bangladesh, WI lol OHHHH I AMMM SOOOOO jealouss, yes you got mee there :)))
 
PAUL HARRIS IS in.. big test for him...


lets see how he goes.. starts with a wide delivery.. which can't really be called one in test
 
bablu_khan said:
PAUL HARRIS IS in.. big test for him...


lets see how he goes.. starts with a wide delivery.. which can't really be called one in test
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Very negative bowling by Harris.
 
PlanetPakistan said:
Very negative bowling by Harris.
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the first ball he bowled.. i really wanted to use the word u used pp.. that is "negative"

but then i thougt, if i woudl use that, our fellow friend saffer would erupt in disarray.. hence i didn't use

but now i have to say.. whole over he bowled that stuff

very negative line.. lets see how he bowls later.. that was just first over
 
bablu_khan said:
but now i have to say.. whole over he bowled that stuff

very negative line.. lets see how he bowls later.. that was just first over
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Yeah Thorpe is saying the same thing
 
I dont blame harris for bowling negatively. This is a negative cricket wicket .
 
saffer.. thats not how u bowl when u have 540 on the board..

i mean still a bloody massive trail.. saf are up in the game.. and if such a thing is being applied by the team who has such a massive score ont he board alredy.. goes on to show.. that they don't have any hope..


now finally Paul harris has changed the side after knowing his negative tactics ain't gonna be workin at this time..
 
Flat pitch and India at home - pack your bags SA friends - nothing to see here!
 
Thanks to sehwag for injecting some excitement in this dull flat pitched cricket. Gawd, BCCI [Edit by Mods: Easy with the expletives pls]
 
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Indian_fan.. not cursing time at this moment

it's the time to cherish the batting after seeing 2 boring days of Indian bowling..

enjoy the batting mate
 
Heres my scenario:

India score 700, double time
SA collapse to spin in their second inn
India win, late on final day
 
saffer.. thats not how u bowl when u have 540 on the board..

i mean still a bloody massive trail.. saf are up in the game.. and if such a thing is being applied by the team who has such a massive score ont he board alredy.. goes on to show.. that they don't have any hope..
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If they get a wicket maybe . What is the point is putting the ball up there to get it hit ? The wicket offers nothing to our bowlers . Boring cricket if I ever saw it ...and I said the same while s.a were batting .
 
South Africa will just go into defensive mode now . It's up to india to try and make something of this game ...S.A will hope in doing so they throw away a few wickets .
 
Going by the assertions made on this board, I thought the fearsome south african pace quartet were going to take the pitch out of the equation. Talk is cheap.

Virender sehwag once again underscores his worth. He gives India the best chance to wrest the initiative with his aggresive approach. Cannot think of too many players who are as prolific an accumulator of runs at a strike rate of almost 80. I am not too much into the predicting game but I am fairly confident that by the time Sehwag finishes his career he'd be hailed as one of the greats.
 
Romali_rotti said:
When was the last time Sa won a test match vs Aus ? just curios I cant remember maybe I am getting old
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You are getting old. South Africa won the most recent Test vs Australia.

But carry on celebrating your one Test win :19:
 
Random Aussie said:
You are getting old. South Africa won the most recent Test vs Australia.

But carry on celebrating your one Test win :19:
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So long you've the likes of bucknor, benson and Oxenford celebrating with your team : )
 
Plz stick to the topic Guys.

Harris is bowling negatively and is testing Sehwag's patience in the same way, Giles used to test Sachin by resorting to left arm over the wicket line piching outside leg stump.

But Sachin was a bit circumspect and had more patience, where as Sehwag is more audacious against spinners and probably not as calm as Sachin.

Will Smith bowl some of his rippers too???
Interesting session ahead.
 
sgt.pepper said:
So long you've the likes of bucknor, benson and Oxenford celebrating with your team : )
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Yes all of us white teams get together and have a celebration with the umpires after we beat a subcontinent team :D

Who is Oxenford?

Rajan if the cricket was worth talking about and not so dull we would not be digressing.
 
Random Aussie said:
Yes all of us white teams get together and have a celebration with the umpires after we beat a subcontinent team :D

Who is Oxenford?Rajan if the cricket was worth talking about and not so dull we would not be digressing.
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RA,

i think Oxenford is the TV umpire who ruled Symmonds not out in sydney when the replays showed his foot was in the air, when dhoni stumped him.
 
Rajan said:
RA,

i think Oxenford is the TV umpire who ruled Symmonds not out in sydney when the replays showed his foot was in the air, when dhoni stumped him.
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Ok thanks :19:
 
Random Aussie said:
Yes all of us white teams get together and have a celebration with the umpires after we beat a subcontinent team :D

Who is Oxenford?

Rajan if the cricket was worth talking about and not so dull we would not be digressing.
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Surprised you don't know him. He is the australian umpire who, with the luxury of television replays, chose not to give symonds out in the sydney test when everyone else was convinced otherwise, including Channel 9 commentators. For many, it was the clearest case of cheating, as a third umpire does not have to make his decision in a flash and there is no room for "human error".

he also officiated as a third umpire in the second finals of CB series and took an eternity to adjudge hussey out when there was visibly no room to entertain any doubt whatsoever. I think it's instinctive for him and the rest of his breed.
 
saffer said:
As interesting as watching a throw down net practice .
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Are you saying that steyn, ntini, morkel, kallis and harris are nothing more than net bowlers? Or you concede that Indian batsmen make them look that way.

Either way, i am happy.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Glen Mcgrath avg under 20 in Indian wickets, a champion bowler doesnt need a wicket to determine how he will get the wicket.
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I agree. Shouldn't performance on such kind of pitches be measures of a bowler's skill; just like the performance on fast and bouncy pitches of Aus and SA are measures of a batsman's skills.
 
sgt.pepper said:
Surprised you don't know him. He is the australian umpire who, with the luxury of television replays, chose not to give symonds out in the sydney test when everyone else was convinced otherwise, including Channel 9 commentators. For many, it was the clearest case of cheating, as a third umpire does not have to make his decision in a flash and there is no room for "human error".

he also officiated as a third umpire in the second finals of CB series and took an eternity to adjudge hussey out when there was visibly no room to entertain any doubt whatsoever. I think it's instinctive for him and the rest of his breed.
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What is BCCI doing? ;-)
how can he officiate after such a great performance in the sydney test?
he should be banned for all matches in future, especially against india!!!heloo, Lalit Modi, do u hear me?plz call CA. :D
 
sehwag is so dangerous. if you dont get him before he makes 10 runs or so he will go on and score huge runs.

When he is in the zone nobody can stop him. If SA could have got him out last night they had a chance but now he is on his way to a double 100.
Not to mention his strike rate awsome !
 
I agree. Shouldn't performance on such kind of pitches be measures of a bowler's skill; just like the performance on fast and bouncy pitches of Aus and SA are measures of a batsman's skills.
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A fast bowlers skill is his ability to swing and seam the ball . On a track this flat , in this heat and these air conditions he has no chance to show his skill . It doesnt matter where you bowl nothing is going to happen for you except for luck .
 
sgt.pepper said:
Surprised you don't know him. He is the australian umpire who, with the luxury of television replays, chose not to give symonds out in the sydney test when everyone else was convinced otherwise, including Channel 9 commentators. For many, it was the clearest case of cheating, as a third umpire does not have to make his decision in a flash and there is no room for "human error".

he also officiated as a third umpire in the second finals of CB series and took an eternity to adjudge hussey out when there was visibly no room to entertain any doubt whatsoever. I think it's instinctive for him and the rest of his breed.
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It must be expensive for CA to pay all these umpires to 'cheat" for us.

Conspiracy theories much?
 
Woohoo the Saffers have a wicket.

Everyone grab a drink and sit down it's Rahul Dravid time! Here come the runs!
 
saffer said:
A fast bowlers skill is his ability to swing and seam the ball . On a track this flat , in this heat and these air conditions he has no chance to show his skill . It doesnt matter where you bowl nothing is going to happen for you except for luck .
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Sorry but will have to disagree there.

A fast (for that matter any) bowler's skill is to get the batsman out in the given circumstances just like a batsman's skill is to play the swinging and seaming ball and score runs.

If conditions are favourable then how do they test your skills?
 
saffer said:
A fast bowlers skill is his ability to swing and seam the ball . On a track this flat , in this heat and these air conditions he has no chance to show his skill . It doesnt matter where you bowl nothing is going to happen for you except for luck .
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So are you suggesting that Bowlers need assistance to perform good ? So why are batsmen heavily criticized for not performing on 'bowler friendly' wicket (i.e. green wicket).

I am not saying its easy to bowl on flat tracks, but bowlers have to toil harder to get wickets on flatter tracks and this is where there patience/ability is tested. Greener wickets help bowlers display their skill rather than their patience.
 
Sorry but will have to disagree there.

A fast (for that matter any) bowler's skill is to get the batsman out in the given circumstances just like a batsman's skill is to play the swinging and seaming ball and score runs.

If conditions are favourable then how do they test your skills?
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they dont have to be favourable..there should be some form of encouragement though...else you may as well have bowling machines . I'm sorry , on this wicket no bowler would want to bowl . Maybe there will be some uneven bounce starting now and that will help ...but without that only spinners will get wickets here .
 
So are you suggesting that Bowlers need assistance to perform good ? So why are batsmen heavily criticized for not performing on 'bowler friendly' wicket (i.e. green wicket).

I am not saying its easy to bowl on flat tracks, but bowlers have to toil harder to get wickets on flatter tracks and this is where there patience/ability is tested. Greener wickets help bowlers display their skill rather than their patience.
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There are flat wickets ...and there are these kinf of stupid wickets...no bounce...no pace...so seam...so nothing...pathetic .
 
Random Aussie said:
Woohoo the Saffers have a wicket.

Everyone grab a drink and sit down it's Rahul Dravid time! Here come the runs!
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I thought Dravid was crawling wall of India :))
 
If the wickets starts to do something...and S.a can get 2 or 3 wickets before india are 200 behind....it could still be an S.a win .
 
saffer said:
they dont have to be favourable..there should be some form of encouragement though...else you may as well have bowling machines . I'm sorry , on this wicket no bowler would want to bowl . Maybe there will be some uneven bounce starting now and that will help ...but without that only spinners will get wickets here .
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Welcome to test cricket. If you don't have patience to play in this format of the game, then I am afraid test cricket is not your cup of tea. You simply cannot have your own way (i.e. suitable wickets for your bowling style). Display your skills and patience, wickets will be rewarded for your hard work ;-)
 
random aussie and some other Indians here.. can u please cut this India - Aussie umpiring **** talk away? please.. its been boring.. haven't u got bored?

please folkz..
 
Display your skills and patience, wickets will be rewarded for your hard work
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and which fast bowler from india "showed their skill" on this wicket ?
 
india_fan said:
Welcome to test cricket. If you don't have patience to play in this format of the game, then I am afraid test cricket is not your cup of tea. You simply cannot have your own way (i.e. suitable wickets for your bowling style). Display your skills and patience, wickets will be rewarded for your hard work ;-)
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This isn't test cricket. This is a disgrace, akin to the opening tests of the Pak-India test series in 06.
 
saffer said:
they dont have to be favourable..there should be some form of encouragement though...else you may as well have bowling machines . I'm sorry , on this wicket no bowler would want to bowl . Maybe there will be some uneven bounce starting now and that will help ...but without that only spinners will get wickets here .
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This is the reason performance in away games is so valued; ask us Indians how much "abuse" we cop when supporting our team 'cause of their poor away record.
 
switchblade said:
Can anybody explain why was Jaffer picked ahead of Gambhir ?
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BECAUS jaffer had a good test series @ home against pakistan.. and just one bad serie sin between which was against Australia.

certainly don't deserve to be dropped..

It's hard luck for Gambhir.. but jaffer to deservz to play.. he is a very good player at home
 
Jeevs said:
None did... but do you hear us complaining about the pitch..
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Yes. I've been in touch with an Indian office (work-related) over the past few days and every single one (well, about 4 in total!) of them have bitched and moaned about the pitch and the 2-spinner strategy. Test cricket is dieing because of pitches like this, and the diminishing crowds in India are testament to that. Why do you think India are only playing 2 tests against England? Do you think the same would happen in England?
 
bablu_khan said:
BECAUS jaffer had a good test series @ home against pakistan.. and just one bad serie sin between which was against Australia.

certainly don't deserve to be dropped..

It's hard luck for Gambhir.. but jaffer to deservz to play.. he is a very good player at home
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Ya, I checked out some of his batting videos, seems to be a classy player with hints of Laxman.
 
Sheikh said:
Yes. I've been in touch with an Indian office (work-related) over the past few days and every single one (well, about 4 in total!) of them have bitched and moaned about the pitch and the 2-spinner strategy. Test cricket is dieing because of pitches like this, and the diminishing crowds in India are testament to that. Why do you think India are only playing 2 tests against England? Do you think the same would happen in England?
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Sheikh, my comment was in the context of Saffer's statement that SA bowlers are not performing because of the pitch.

Overall I agree with you that pitches of this type do make tests boring to watch.
 
Saffer/RA
This is what i posted as an interesting session coming up.
agree?

67.4 Ntini to Sehwag, 3 runs, that's his 200, take a bow Virender Sehwag, he's been unadulterated entertainment, he gets there by flicking off his hips through midwicket, the fielder gives chase and pulls it in just inside the boundary, this is the third quickest double-hundred in Test cricket ever
67.3 Ntini to Sehwag, SIX, smashed! Sehwag picks up the ball from middle stump and hoicks it over the leg side, I don't think he hit that cleanly but the ball soared over the long leg boundary, he's on fire, and that is an understatement
 
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Man O Man.. What A Freakin Knock That Was

I Mean He Kept Hitting Four And Sixes All Around..

No Fear

No Fear

No Fear

Thats What This Guy Attitude Is..

He Even Got Hist 300 By Hitting A Six..
 
perefect tea interval for him..to rest uop and come back and bash some more .I wont be surprised to see him make a HUGE score here .
 
Sounds like a good atmosphere. Good (and extremely encouraging) to see that Indians are still prepared to turn out to watch Test cricket at a time when so many of us are are concerned about the possibility of one day and T/20 cricket taking over.

In fact, the crowd looks significantly bigger than I would have expected for this fixture.
 
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