South India

[Slog]

It just seems like a different world.... kerala and tamil nadu especially

whenever I meet Indians from delhi, Punjab, haryana or even Mumbai I have a lot in common with them and can even speak in hindi/Urdu amongst each other if we want to. but its not just language (I end up speaking in English to most anyways), they just seem to be from a foreign country.

the food,culture, outlook on life, habits etc etc are wildly different to the point that they are polar opposites. was particularly surprised by how different the food is


they also seem generally more rational and educated abt social issues which plague Pakistan and north india and also seem more educated. this is enviable. you don't hear abt messed up news as much from over there.

is there a big chasm between south india and north Indians. an indian forum I surf sometimes seems to have a big divide. one of my indian friends said the only thing in common between south and north india are:
- love for cricket
- Hinduism
I mean he said it as a joke but the point was to tell how diff they are.

in what points of history before british colonization were they ever united as one country?

also how is their integration in terms of being in the cricket team. I know ashwin is from tamil nadu. any other big names from there or kerala?

this is a topic that has fascinated me for a few weeks ever since I played cricket with a bunch of tamil guys a few weeks ago and talked to them abt it.

 

[Slog]

would like to see some posters share their views. just hoping for an open discussion.

in the indian independence movement did any ppl from these states play any big role in Congress?

the muslims from these states seem not to have played any role either way

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

South Indians that I came across have always been mellow and chill about the whole India-Pak thing .A lot different than Northies . I am very interested to what PP indians have to say in this thread.

 

[IgnitedMind]

yeah...Andhra, Tamil, Kerala and Karnataka are a different altogether..compared to North India.

Relatively educated, rational people, peacefull places compared to the north India. \

culture...movies..everything is so different. even among us south indians...I am from Andhra...Kerala and Tamil Nadu as different to me as anybody else..language ..movies..everything.

All four states in south India are different to each other as well...

As far independence goes...Yes we were involved..but more regionally due to indian being princely states ..but very few national level leaders.

 

[Slog]

South Indians that I came across have always been mellow and chill about the whole India-Pak thing .A lot different than Northies . I am very interested to what PP indians have to say in this thread.

That's what ive noticed too.

they don't care either way and are very chill abt it

north Indians are either ambassadors of aman ki asha or just plain hate Pakistan to the core generally

 

[IgnitedMind]

That's what ive noticed too.

they don't care either way and are very chill abt it

north Indians are either ambassadors of aman ki asha or just plain hate Pakistan to the core generally

It is because we have been less affected by terrorism...religious differences. Literacy too is quite high...Kerela is 100 percent literate state ..and beef is one of popular dishes of the place and nobody cares as they mind their own religion and bussiness. compare that maharashtra.

And I donno when it started..but people in South India are very education oriented...and that is how parents brought up their kids in last decade or two especially..results are becoming more and more prominent now..

 

[Slog]

where does Mumbai fall?

on the map it looks to be more south but ppl from there seem to identify more with north.

 

[eradicator]

Maharashtra and Gujarat are not North Indian states , same goes for Bengal , Orissa and North Eastern states. Only a fool would divide India into North and South.

 

[IgnitedMind]

^^^ If that was for me, We can still talk about the differences in culture..and problems we have while staying united mate.

 

[eradicator]

That was for people who differentiate India in North and South , its mostly a south thing where everything apart from the 4 states is North Indian Hindi Culture. Dont forget there is east and west along with North and South. Maharashtra ( Mumbai ) , Gujarat , Bengal, Goa , Orissa to name a few are not North Indian states.

 

[mithun_minhas]

South Indians - More conservative, more reserved in gatherings. They do not become friends that easily. But when they do, you got a friend for life. More educated and balanced in their views. Having lived in South India for almost 20 years, I laugh when people call everyone from there as Madrasis. South Indians differ in each state. Their English has different accents. Languages are very different, scripts are different too. South Indian Muslims speak local languages (Except for the ones in Hyderabad. They speak Hyderabadi Urdu).

North Indians - Less conservative, free flowing, become friends very quickly. They can also leave you very quickly if you move to a new location. They make friends anywhere and everywhere very quickly. Less educated (especially their female folk). A lot of people still study arts (which south Indians will laugh at).

 

[FreeBird]

I was buying lunch from my office's cafeteria once when a newly hired South Indian was next to me.

We were having a small chit chat when it came our turn,

I casually asked him, so u r a strictly vegetarian?

He immediately said, No man, I am strictly a non-vegeterian as he ordered beef and I ordered only vegetable due to no halal meat options.
We both laughed and moved on.

He later became a good batsman of our, then, office's tennis ball cricket team.

It was kind of a funny introduction with a Tamil South Indian Hindu.

 

[kaayal]

You will see a malayali in every corner of the world. They didn't even spare the top of Eiffel tower...

 

[mithun_minhas]

I was buying lunch from my office's cafeteria once when a newly hired South Indian was next to me.

We were having a small chit chat when it came our turn,

I casually asked him, so u r a strictly vegetarian?

He immediately said, No man, I am strictly a non-vegeterian as he ordered beef and I ordered only vegetable due to no halal meat options.
We both laughed and moved on.

He later became a good batsman of our, then, office's tennis ball cricket team.

It was kind of a funny introduction with a Tamil South Indian Hindu.

Tamil people (Non-Brahmin ones) seem to love their beef. In my university where I worked in cafeteria(On-campus job), Tamil people ate Cheese Burgers(Beef) and Pepperoni Pizza. They are almost everyday. To me, they are the biggest Carnivores in India

 

[Slog]

who are some south famous indian cricketers?

ashwin, sreesanth/

 

[Slog]

You will see a malayali in every corner of the world. They didn't even spare the top of Eiffel tower...

malayali=keralites?

and whats mallu? just short form for that I assume

 

[kaayal]

malayali=keralites?

and whats mallu? just short form for that I assume

yep...but some people don't like to be called as mallu. Prefer malayali or keralite.

 

[mithun_minhas]

who are some south famous indian cricketers?

ashwin, sreesanth/

Ashwin, Krish Srikanth - Tamils
Laxman, Rohit Sharma - Telugu
Kumble, Prasad, Srinath, Uthappa - Kannadiga
Sreesanth - Malayali

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

who are some south famous indian cricketers?

ashwin, sreesanth/

Krishnamachari Srikanth (TN), Erapalli Prasanna (Karnataka), Venkatraghavan (TN), VVS Laxman (Andhra), Ojha (Andhra), Rohit Sharma (from Andhra I think though he played for Mumbai), Anil Kumble (Karnataka), Javagal Srinath (Karnataka), KL Rahul (Aus series opener - Karnataka), Murali Vijay (TN), Dinesh Karthik (TN), Laxmipathi Balaji (TN), Vinay Kumar (Karnataka), Rayudu (Andhra), Laxman Sivaramakrishnan (TN), Sadagopan Ramesh (TN).

I might have missed a few.

 

[kaayal]

Ashwin, Krish Srikanth - Tamils
Laxman, Rohit Sharma - Telugu
Kumble, Prasad, Srinath, Uthappa - Kannadiga
Sreesanth - Malayali

Rohit telugu???? thought he was from mumbai.

And uthappa is half malayali from mothers side.

 

[kaayal]

Ashwin, Krish Srikanth - Tamils
Laxman, Rohit Sharma - Telugu
Kumble, Prasad, Srinath, Uthappa - Kannadiga
Sreesanth - Malayali

Rohit telugu???? thought he was from mumbai.

And uthappa is half malayali from mothers side.

 

[mithun_minhas]

Rohit telugu???? thought he was from mumbai.

And uthappa is half malayali from mothers side.

Rohit is Telugu. Think he was born in Visakhapatnam. Both his parents are doctors. Moved to Mumbai when he was young.

Read an Interview a few years ago in a Telugu News Paper.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Rohit is Telugu. Think he was born in Visakhapatnam. Both his parents are doctors. Moved to Mumbai when he was young.

Read an Interview a few years ago in a Telugu News Paper.

Are you Telugu? Or southie?

Or northie?

 

[mithun_minhas]

Are you Telugu? Or southie?

Or northie?

EVerything bro.

I have Telugu, UP, Tamil, Kannada connections. My family is a Jeeta Jaagta example of National Integration.

Brought up in Andhra. Hence I can read and write Telugu fluently.

 

[sully3]

I have to say the South Indians i come across in the UK are all very decent hard working people. But what surprises me most is how much emphasis on education they put and how civilised they are. And the best thing is you will hardly ever meet a south indian with anti Pak sentiment so they are good to get along with.

 

[Slog]

Rohit telugu???? thought he was from mumbai.

And uthappa is half malayali from mothers side.

he speaks very good hindi. Rohit ie

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Well you can watch Indian tv for more then 5 minutes before a fair cream or saboon ad appears, so I guess there is quite a lot blacks.

That's your basis? )

Well...so a country filled with 1 billion+ people even has 10% of dark complexioned people, then that would be 100 million people which is about half the population of Pakistan. If I do 20%, that would more people than entire Pakistan.

Anything and everything has a market in India due to our population.

Of course there are a significant % of darker complexioned people (probably majority - I don't have a clue to be honest)....but that doesn't mean everyone is like that.

Anyhoo....I am not dark complexioned but I am tired of north Indians and Pakistanis referring to South Indians as black (as if its some kind of inferior thing).

 

[Slog]

I have to say the South Indians i come across in the UK are all very decent hard working people. But what surprises me most is how much emphasis on education they put and how civilised they are. And the best thing is you will hardly ever meet a south indian with anti Pak sentiment so they are good to get along with.

It depends tbh

I get along well with north Indians but maybe that's due to a unique situation.

the south Indians ive met are all recent immigrants to US and didn't go to college her mostly so their English isn't that great and they don't speak hindi either so hard to strike a friendship

when I was in college almost all the Indians were either delhi, Punjab or Mumbai so had little or no interaction with south Indians.

so prolly that's why my experience has been of making friends with ppl from north

but south india does fascinate me. I would like to visit there some day as it also seems to be a very beautiful area. esp kerala and tn. evventough my grandparents are from delhi and UP, I have never been fascinated with those areas or the though of visiting tme has ever crossed my mind.

 

[Slog]

That's your basis? )

Well...so a country filled with 1 billion+ people even has 10% of dark complexioned people, then that would be 100 million people which is about half the population of Pakistan. If I do 20%, that would more people than entire Pakistan.

Anything and everything has a market in India due to our population.

Of course there are a significant % of darker complexioned people (probably majority - I don't have a clue to be honest)....but that doesn't mean everyone is like that.

Anyhoo....I am not dark complexioned but I am tired of north Indians and Pakistanis referring to South Indians as black (as if its some kind of inferior thing).

are you tamil, sif?

 

[Slog]

what is this theory that north Indians are Aryans and south Indians are dravidians are that north indiians pushed the original Dravidian inhabitants south due to their ivasions.

just an old crackpot theory?

also where did Hinduism originate. is there any credible version of what part of india it was

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

are you tamil, sif?

Yeah I am.

 

[JamalAfridi]

That's your basis? )

Well...so a country filled with 1 billion+ people even has 10% of dark complexioned people, then that would be 100 million people which is about half the population of Pakistan. If I do 20%, that would more people than entire Pakistan.

Anything and everything has a market in India due to our population.

Of course there are a significant % of darker complexioned people (probably majority - I don't have a clue to be honest)....but that doesn't mean everyone is like that.

Anyhoo....I am not dark complexioned but I am tired of north Indians and Pakistanis referring to South Indians as black (as if its some kind of inferior thing).

Na na you got it wrong there.

I said South Indian are dark skinned {MOD Deleted} and North Indian are less dark skinned.
So if I meet someone like Ashwin or Srikanth I can with a good probability guess the person is from South. Someone like Kohli or Yuvi my guess would be North. That's how I differentiate between Southern and Northerns because I know little about all other things.

Of course there is exception to the rule, but that's a pretty accurate thumb rule.

 

[Slog]

Well you can watch Indian tv for more then 5 minutes before a fair cream or saboon ad appears, so I guess there is quite a lot blacks.

we are all dark bro. just varing degrees of brownness.

and be proud of it. American (in my experience) and i guess European chicks dig it if you are confident and can strike up a conversation

 

[mithun_minhas]

we are all dark bro. just varing degrees of brownness.

and be proud of it. American (in my experience) and i guess European chicks dig it if you are confident and can strike up a conversation

Agreed.

The same way, Europeans are not white. They are Pink. There are no white people.

 

[Slog]

Yeah I am.

how come yur hindi is so good

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

what is this theory that north Indians are Aryans and south Indians are dravidians are that north indiians pushed the original Dravidian inhabitants south due to their ivasions.

just an old crackpot theory?

also where did Hinduism originate. is there any credible version of what part of india it was

From a religious POV,

Bharat (India, Pakistan, Nepal, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, parts of China) was one entity ruled over by Kings according to Vedic dharmas.

SL is not part of Bharat even though Tamils reside in SL.

Krita Yuga - Narasimha avatar took place in modern day Andhra Pradesh.

Treta Yuga - Lord Rama was from Ayodhya (Uttar Pradesh) and Sita was from Nepal. From Rameshwaram (Tamil Nadu), Rama's army crossed the sea (a part where the water level is at its lowest). There are rocks still there (risky to take boats near that area cos some capsized hitting these rocks which are just a touch below water level) but of course, there are differing views about its origin (it being natural and not man made).

Dwapara Yuga - Lord Krishna was from Dwaraka the submerged city of Gujrat (stated to have submerged towards the end of Dwapara Yuga - recently found by History Channel divers). Gandhari, Shakuni were from modern day Afghanistan. The Mahabharata War took place in Kurukshetra (Haryana).

As far as Hinduism is concerned, Bharat was one entity and there was no invasion by North Indians to push out South Indians.

As for origin of Hinduism, scientifically you can say Vedic scriptures were found to be as far as 300 BC...maybe 1000 BC - dunno about the dates.

Religious POV - it was there as always. No one has a claim to have written Vedas. Its something that's called as being there for eternity. Veda Vyas just compiled it in written form. The 4 cyles (Krita, Treta, Dwapara, Kali) repeat itself.

Around Ashoka period, Budhism started gaining momentum in India from where it spread to other places.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

how come yur hindi is so good

Lived in Delhi for 8 years (till 5th standard) and used to go to Delhi for vacations from 6th-9th standard.

 

[prakash]

Krishnamachari Srikanth (TN), Erapalli Prasanna (Karnataka), Venkatraghavan (TN), VVS Laxman (Andhra), Ojha (Andhra), Rohit Sharma (from Andhra I think though he played for Mumbai), Anil Kumble (Karnataka), Javagal Srinath (Karnataka), KL Rahul (Aus series opener - Karnataka), Murali Vijay (TN), Dinesh Karthik (TN), Laxmipathi Balaji (TN), Vinay Kumar (Karnataka), Rayudu (Andhra), Laxman Sivaramakrishnan (TN), Sadagopan Ramesh (TN).

I might have missed a few.

No one mentioned Dravid (Karnataka)

and the person who controls Cricket: Srinivasan (TN) - he wasn't a cricket player.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

No one mentioned Dravid (Karnataka)

and the person who controls Cricket: Srinivasan (TN) - he wasn't a cricket player.

Oh God...

How could I miss Dravid?

And I didn't misss legund Vinay Kooomar.

 

[Slog]

karnattaka seems to produce the best cricketers from the south

 

[eradicator]

LOL. Dravid is a Maharashtrian Brahmin. Sabko South Indian bana do.

 

[kaayal]

Kerala supplies nurses to the whole world..

 

[Slog]

LOL. Dravid is a Maharashtrian Brahmin. Sabko South Indian bana do.

)

sachin's grandparents were south indian

 

[mithun_minhas]

Just to add to SIF, Rigveda was written in Peshawar.

Sanatana Dharma originated in Pak/Afghan border looks like. Spread to Gangatic plain when Vedic people migrated to Gangetic plain.

Ravana the king of Lanka was a Shiva Worshiper. So SriLanka was also Hindu Kingdom until Emperor Ashoka spread it there. The same goes for countries like Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia.... They were all once upon a time Hindu Kingdoms ruled by Kings from Bengal, Orissa etc..
If not for Adi Shankara from Kerala, we would all be Buddhists.

Subcontinent accepted all kinds of foreigners with various beliefs. They all got integrated into Hindu culture. Absorbed into various castes.

Islam was the first religion which never accepted Hindu culture. Instead it took a big chunk of people away from it.

 

[mithun_minhas]

LOL. Dravid is a Maharashtrian Brahmin. Sabko South Indian bana do.

I consider Marathis as South Indians. Vast majority of them look no different from a Kannadiga or Andhra person.

Dravid is a Maharashtrian descent.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Yeah...Ravana was a Shiva Bhakt.

 

[Slog]

I consider Marathis as South Indians. Vast majority of them look no different from a Kannadiga or Andhra person.

Dravid is a Maharashtrian descent.

tamils are the most distinct

and keralites I guess.

I didn't even know vvs was south indian technically

 

[zzebie]

I consider Marathis as South Indians. Vast majority of them look no different from a Kannadiga or Andhra person.

Dravid is a Maharashtrian descent.

Also that Maharashtra and Karnataka border has few places on either side split up such that there are bi lingual people on either side. You find Marathi origin people in Karnataka and the other way round as well

 

[Slog]

but then srivinivasan doesn't look the typical tamil I have in my mind either and someone mentioned he is

its all mumbo jumbo

 

[eradicator]

Srini is Brahmin, they come in better shades compared to Non-Brahmin Tamils imo. Typical Tamil would be someone like Muralitharan.

 

[prakash]

It used to be South Indians migrating to North for jobs in 60s,70s. Now it is reversed. In Chennai, I see people from north and north east doing all the menial and low paying jobs. Construction workers are imported from Bihar/UP. I can see them in interior Tamil Nadu too. In the last 10 years the demographics has changed so much. All 4 southern states are booming, the locals are lazy and demanding more for low skilled jobs, where as people from northern states work for half the wages, because there are no jobs in their states. Lot of students from north study in Chennai, Vellore.

Many construction firms in Chennai and TN have an army of interpreters just to manage the workforce. If you are fluent in Hindi and Tamil, there are plenty of jobs available. Entire infrastructure in Chennai is being built by people from UP/Bihar/Bengal/Orissa. In my locality I hardly saw any out of state people when I was growing up (80s/90s). But now nearly 30% are from northern states. Is this temporary or will they leave once their region produces jobs? No one knows.

 

[Slog]

is cricket as popular in south india as in Punjab, delhi, Mumbai etc?

how did it even reach there. after 1983 wc win. did that side have any south Indians?

like in Pakistan, cricket wasn't that popular among Pathans but after Imran Khan and then Afridi funnily enough the popularity of the sport in NWFP/KPK skyrocketed. and now a significant number of national cricketers are from KPK whereas it was negligible before 2000s

 

[zzebie]

Just to add to SIF, Rigveda was written in Peshawar.

Sanatana Dharma originated in Pak/Afghan border looks like. Spread to Gangatic plain when Vedic people migrated to Gangetic plain.

Ravana the king of Lanka was a Shiva Worshiper. So SriLanka was also Hindu Kingdom until Emperor Ashoka spread it there. The same goes for countries like Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia.... They were all once upon a time Hindu Kingdoms ruled by Kings from Bengal, Orissa etc..
If not for Adi Shankara from Kerala, we would all be Buddhists.

Subcontinent accepted all kinds of foreigners with various beliefs. They all got integrated into Hindu culture. Absorbed into various castes.

Islam was the first religion which never accepted Hindu culture. Instead it took a big chunk of people away from it.

Also the interesting part is: As far as Vedas are concerned, much of the 4 vedas were actually spoken/written in and around modern day Pakistan like Swat Valley etc.

 

[Slog]

It used to be South Indians migrating to North for jobs in 60s,70s. Now it is reversed. In Chennai, I see people from north and north east doing all the menial and low paying jobs. Construction workers are imported from Bihar/UP. I can see them in interior Tamil Nadu too. In the last 10 years the demographics has changed so much. All 4 southern states are booming, the locals are lazy and demanding more for low skilled jobs, where as people from northern states work for half the wages, because there are no jobs in their states. Lot of students from north study in Chennai, Vellore.

Many construction firms in Chennai and TN have an army of interpreters just to manage the workforce. If you are fluent in Hindi and Tamil, there are plenty of jobs available. Entire infrastructure in Chennai is being built by people from UP/Bihar/Bengal/Orissa. In my locality I hardly saw any out of state people when I was growing up (80s/90s). But now nearly 30% are from northern states. Is this temporary or will they leave once their region produces jobs? No one knows.

good for india in the medium and long term

more integration throughout india

this is the great thing abt USA. ppl keep on moving from one state to another so it doesn't get to a point where you think youre in a different country from one state to another

in subcontinent moving from one city to another within the country permanently is rare

 

[prakash]

is cricket as popular in south india as in Punjab, delhi, Mumbai etc?

how did it even reach there. after 1983 wc win. did that side have any south Indians?

Cricket didn't come through Khyber, Bolan. British spread it and Madras was an important base for East India Company.

Srikkanth (TN) was the top scorer in 1983 WC final.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

but then srivinivasan doesn't look the typical tamil I have in my mind either and someone mentioned he is

its all mumbo jumbo

In Tamils, there are 2 distinct kinds.

One is a Brahmin look and a non Brahmin look.

Not necessarily colour though that also plays a role.

Srini has a pukka Tamil Brahmin look.

Of course exceptions are there. Ashwin doesn't look like a pukka Tam Brahmin even though he is.

 

[eradicator]

Cricket was always popular in Southern States of Andhra, Karnataka , TN as much as it was in North India. Only Kerala was an exception , where until recently Football was the most popular sport in the state. Its also one of the reasons why the state has produced very very few International Cricketers.

 

[Slog]

Cricket didn't come through Khyber, Bolan. British spread it and Madras was an important base for East India Company.
Srikkanth (TN) was the top scorer in 1983 WC final.

I was looking at some old british era scorecards from india and no south india teams

it was just specilation my part

thanks for info, but still in sheer numbers south doesn't produce as many cricketers

 

[Slog]

In Tamils, there are 2 distinct kinds.

One is a Brahmin look and a non Brahmin look.

Not necessarily colour though that also plays a role.

Srini has a pukka Tamil Brahmin look.

Of course exceptions are there. Ashwin doesn't look like a pukka Tam Brahmin even though he is.

yea I was referring to the murali skin tone.

ashwin isn't that either. Balaji was but nore sure if he is from TN.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

yea I was referring to the murali skin tone.

ashwin isn't that either. Balaji was but nore sure if he is from TN.

Balaji is a TN guy.

 

[hafeezrocks]

Which part of India/Province produced majority of Cricketers ?

 

[Slog]

Which part of India/Province produced majority of Cricketers ?

Maharashtra and Punjab im guessing

 

[iHammad]

Reminds me of this video:

 

[zzebie]

Which part of India/Province produced majority of Cricketers ?

Maharashtra first. Then i would say Delhi(mostly Punjabi speaking folks)

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Reminds me of this video:

What the hell? )

Homo stuff.

 

[mithun_minhas]

Also the interesting part is: As far as Vedas are concerned, much of the 4 vedas were actually spoken/written in and around modern day Pakistan like Swat Valley etc.

I should have said compiled. Not written. Rigveda is supposed to be compiled in Peshawar area somewhere.

 

[mithun_minhas]

In Tamils, there are 2 distinct kinds.

One is a Brahmin look and a non Brahmin look.

Not necessarily colour though that also plays a role.

Srini has a pukka Tamil Brahmin look.

Of course exceptions are there. Ashwin doesn't look like a pukka Tam Brahmin even though he is.

As you go down south, that look gets noticed easily, In UP, I find it hard to tell apart a Brahmin from a Rajput or Gujjar or Jat or Yadav.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

As you go down south, that look gets noticed easily, In UP, I find it hard to tell apart a Brahmin from a Rajput or Gujjar or Jat or Yadav.

One genuine question I always wanted to know..

Are all the Yadavs the clan of Krishna's Yadava clan?

Does Umesh Yadav (or any Yadav for that matter) belong to the same clan or its just a name?

 

[mithun_minhas]

One genuine question I always wanted to know..

Are all the Yadavs the clan of Krishna's Yadava clan?

Does Umesh Yadav (or any Yadav for that matter) belong to the same clan or its just a name?

Great question. I have no idea.

There are Yadavs in Andhra too.

 

[HRP270]

Yadavs were a group generic low caste cow herder castes also known as ahirs in north India. About 150 years ago, during a sanskritization period they reformed themselves as Yadavs and claimed to be of Rajput origin. In some areas, they are quite dominant and in other areas they are one step above Dalits.

They are probably found in Pakistan also...probably whatever name they give to the cow herder caste.

 

[HRP270]

Yadavs were a group generic low caste cow herder castes also known as ahirs in north India. About 150 years ago, during a sanskritization period they reformed themselves as Yadavs and claimed to be of Rajput origin. In some areas, they are quite dominant and in other areas they are one step above Dalits.

They are mostly found in Bihar, U.P and central India. They go far north as Haryana, Delhi and western U.P and are quite notorious criminals. However, in these areas the Jats and Gujjars keep them under control and are more dominant.

They are probably found in Pakistan also...probably whatever name they give to the cow herder caste.

 

[zzebie]

One genuine question I always wanted to know..

Are all the Yadavs the clan of Krishna's Yadava clan?

Does Umesh Yadav (or any Yadav for that matter) belong to the same clan or its just a name?

As far as i have heard, yes, some if not all of the Yadav's consider themselves from Krishna's yadava clan.

So next time you see Umesh yadav on the TV, show some respect SIF, will you (j/k)

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

As far as i have heard, yes, some if not all of the Yadav's consider themselves from Krishna's yadava clan.

So next time you see Umesh yadav on the TV, show some respect SIF, will you (j/k)

Does that mean I have to show great reverence to Mulayam Singh Yadav too?

I have immense respect for Umesh Yadav either way. Heard he is a gem of fellow too.

Thanks for the answer. So are Yadavs are kshatriyas, right.

Don't Yadavs come under the backward caste category in our country (I dunno...just asking).

 

[mithun_minhas]

Does that mean I have to show great reverence to Mulayam Singh Yadav too?

I have immense respect for Umesh Yadav either way. Heard he is a gem of fellow too.

Thanks for the answer. So are Yadavs are kshatriyas, right.

Don't Yadavs come under the backward caste category in our country (I dunno...just asking).

There were Yadav Kings in the past. Even during Chanakya time, it was Nand (Yadav King) that insulted Chanakya. My guess is Yadavs were Kshatriyas when they ruled land and they were goat herders and cow herders when they reared cattle.

In South India, Yadavs are backward caste. But again, Forward caste and backward caste has no meaning in modern India. Anybody can be backward caste to get Reservation.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

There were Yadav Kings in the past. Even during Chanakya time, it was Nand (Yadav King) that insulted Chanakya. My guess is Yadavs were Kshatriyas when they ruled land and they were goat herders and cow herders when they reared cattle.

In South India, Yadavs are backward caste. But again, Forward caste and backward caste has no meaning in modern India. Anybody can be backward caste to get Reservation.

Yeah bro. This is exactly what my mom said too. Its lost its meaning. Any community can be made backward for appeasement and stuff.

Krishna was a Kshatriya who spent his childhood like a Vaishya (but that shouldn't matter cos his clan was something existing before his avatar).

I dunno whether Yadavas are considered people from a certain kingdom or specific caste.

 

[zzebie]

Does that mean I have to show great reverence to Mulayam Singh Yadav too?

I have immense respect for Umesh Yadav either way. Heard he is a gem of fellow too.

Thanks for the answer. So are Yadavs are kshatriyas, right.

Don't Yadavs come under the backward caste category in our country (I dunno...just asking).

Yes SIF,in addition to the post above from mithun_minhas, there were Yadava kings in the past way after Krishna. Forward backward, either ways, there were many occasions in the Indian sub continent, when people from different sections of the society went on to be kings. Yadavas considered to be from professions like cow herders etc also were kings and established empires like kings from Devgiri etc. There are quite a few you will find, if researched

 

[archetype]

This discussion on Yadav caste has very little to to with the topic at hand.

 

[archetype]

Back to the topic at hand. I think South India has some of the best breakfast foods in the world.

 

[Electron]

One thing that really surprised me in South India was that it is hard to find regular bananas there. They have two more common varieties.

Here are the midget ones :

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Ans the red ones :

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[Slog]

the red one looks like just a banana gone bad lol