South India

[gani999]

It used to be South Indians migrating to North for jobs in 60s,70s. Now it is reversed. In Chennai, I see people from north and north east doing all the menial and low paying jobs. Construction workers are imported from Bihar/UP. I can see them in interior Tamil Nadu too. In the last 10 years the demographics has changed so much. All 4 southern states are booming, the locals are lazy and demanding more for low skilled jobs, where as people from northern states work for half the wages, because there are no jobs in their states. Lot of students from north study in Chennai, Vellore.

Many construction firms in Chennai and TN have an army of interpreters just to manage the workforce. If you are fluent in Hindi and Tamil, there are plenty of jobs available. Entire infrastructure in Chennai is being built by people from UP/Bihar/Bengal/Orissa. In my locality I hardly saw any out of state people when I was growing up (80s/90s). But now nearly 30% are from northern states. Is this temporary or will they leave once their region produces jobs? No one knows.

The only South Indians who migrated to the North, mainly to Delhi, in the 1960s and 70s were Civil Services(IAS/IPS) Officers. More the 90% of the IAS qualifiers used to be from the South in those days. There was never any movement of low skilled labour from the South to the North.

The four South Indian states are actually the diving force for most of India's development. India's IT revolution was mostly powered by the Telugus from AP, who constitute more than half of India's IT workforce.

And the locals in South Indian states are far from lazy. They're too educated to be willing to do any menial job. People from UP/Bihar etc also come cheap and are attractive to local businesses. So they are hired in large numbers.

I don't see much hope of UP/Bihar developing to an extent where they can provide enough employment for their own people. Their politicians are too rotten and self seeking for that.

 

[mithun_minhas]

I have visited places in Kanpur, Meerut, Lucknow, Patna etc. back in 2010 The way people live in UP/Bihar reminded me of how people in Andhra Pradesh used to live back in late 80's and early 90's. Everyone still looks for Govt jobs. Lots of jobless youth standing around street corners. Way too many people crowding the streets.

After staying in UP for a couple of weeks, when I flew back to Hyderabad, I felt like I came back to civilization. The less said about Bihar and Orissa the better. Not that Andhra Pradesh is super developed or something, but the difference is too much to ignore.

 

[Electron]

Really? Must have some really screwed up Tamil people u have met .

Have u ever been to Coimbatore?

No, something special about the place?

 

[Romali_rotti]

Malayalee politicians are the biggest crooks in the world no one would come close to them, and this is the reason why Kerala will never progress and remain the same till the end of time... It is over for that state, too late........

 

[shah_1]

My father has travelled around India, he finds Kolkata the best in India. He loved that city. India is most diverse place he has visited, so many different cultures, different type of people in one country.

He also liked Jaipur and Bhopal, when asked about South India. He said the their food is delicious- Chicken Chettinad, Gonguru Mamsam, Coorg Pandi Curry and there is that Prawn curry that he didn't write it down in his notepad so he doesn't remember the exact name.

 

[Thivagar]

The only South Indians who migrated to the North, mainly to Delhi, in the 1960s and 70s were Civil Services(IAS/IPS) Officers. More the 90% of the IAS qualifiers used to be from the South in those days. There was never any movement of low skilled labour from the South to the North.

The four South Indian states are actually the diving force for most of India's development. India's IT revolution was mostly powered by the Telugus from AP, who constitute more than half of India's IT workforce.

And the locals in South Indian states are far from lazy. They're too educated to be willing to do any menial job. People from UP/Bihar etc also come cheap and are attractive to local businesses. So they are hired in large numbers.

I don't see much hope of UP/Bihar developing to an extent where they can provide enough employment for their own people. Their politicians are too rotten and self seeking for that.

Not lazy, insecure, they don't want their friends, families and relatives talking nonsesne about getting a job that they are over qualified for.

 

[Thivagar]

What age does an average youth start working in India ? Lot of the men under 25 seem to give the impression that they just chill till they are about 26-27.

 

[Abhilash93]

My father has travelled around India, he finds Kolkata the best in India. He loved that city. India is most diverse place he has visited, so many different cultures, different type of people in one country.

He also liked Jaipur and Bhopal, when asked about South India. He said the their food is delicious- Chicken Chettinad, Gonguru Mamsam, Coorg Pandi Curry and there is that Prawn curry that he didn't write it down in his notepad so he doesn't remember the exact name.

That one is yummy though cooked in coconut oil!

Each state/region has their own version of Prawn curry, Goan/Kerala/Chettinadu/Konkan etc

 

[Abhilash93]

What age does an average youth start working in India ? Lot of the men under 25 seem to give the impression that they just chill till they are about 26-27.

Mostly after graduation (22) or may be Post-graduation (24-26), that is if they are lucky to find a decent job.

 

[mithun_minhas]

For all Tamils and Mallus, why do you use the alphabet "Zh"? Wouldn't it be simple to use "L" instead?

Like Karunanidhi's daughter's name is "Kanimozhi". A non-tamil/mallu person will read it as he sees it. Can't it be written as "Kanimoli" instead? This one never made sense to me.

In Telugu, there is a similar alphabet. People substitute it with "L" in English.

 

[par]

For all Tamils and Mallus, why do you use the alphabet "Zh"? Wouldn't it be simple to use "L" instead?

Like Karunanidhi's daughter's name is "Kanimozhi". A non-tamil/mallu person will read it as he sees it. Can't it be written as "Kanimoli" instead? This one never made sense to me.

In Telugu, there is a similar alphabet. People substitute it with "L" in English.

Why do you write your name as 'Mithun' and not 'Midhun'?

 

[Varun]

I'm a South Indian, from a place far far away from Pakistan.

*waves*

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

For all Tamils and Mallus, why do you use the alphabet "Zh"? Wouldn't it be simple to use "L" instead?

Like Karunanidhi's daughter's name is "Kanimozhi". A non-tamil/mallu person will read it as he sees it. Can't it be written as "Kanimoli" instead? This one never made sense to me.

In Telugu, there is a similar alphabet. People substitute it with "L" in English.

Cos Kanimoli would be pronounced as Kanimoli which is not how Kanimozhi is pronounced.

 

[vivek]

For all Tamils and Mallus, why do you use the alphabet "Zh"? Wouldn't it be simple to use "L" instead?

Like Karunanidhi's daughter's name is "Kanimozhi". A non-tamil/mallu person will read it as he sees it. Can't it be written as "Kanimoli" instead? This one never made sense to me.

In Telugu, there is a similar alphabet. People substitute it with "L" in English.

Robert Caldwell's transliteration system for Dravidian languages uses an adjoining h as an indication of palatalization/retroflexion. That is the difference between*s*and*sh*is that tongue is bent backwards. In the same way, pronounce*z*and then pronounce the same with tongue bending backwards (as much as you can) you will be able to pronounce*

Why not rh? As*Preeti Pratap*pointed out in a comment, zh sounds closer to r than z. But if we look at the way we pronounce it, Tamil*r*is different from English*r. There is a lot of friction when we pronounce Tamil*r*- both*r's in Tamil are fricatives. and is an approximant, that is there is not so much friction. That is why, may be they chose 'zh' over 'rh'.
Please note that as we bend the tongue more and more backwards, the distinction between z,l,r fades away.

http://www.quora.com/Tamil-language...-the-letter--in-English/answer/Nagarjuna-Asam

 

[TM Riddle]

what does chicken 65 tastes like?

 

[JaDed]

I'm a Punjabi and have been in South almost whole of my life either in Chennai or Bangalore.I do visit Delhi often and i can tell you that other than my relatives i don't really get along with people from Delhi,Punjab and Haryana.
I have lot of friends who are tamil,telugu,Malyalis and i get along well with ppl from Bihar,Bengal,Jharkhand.
Pakistanis should get along well with people from the north States with mostly Punjabis or haryanvis.
As for the South states Karnataka might not have the literacy of Kerala but in general i have met the most loyal and forgiving people from Karnataka well brought up children with great values.
Tamil Nadu is what i call my home state and support em in regional sports but they have their share of problems esp in Madurai and Namakkal where caste situations exist and its terrifying imo.
Over all South is diff but so are most parts in India. Shillong would have nothing common with Mumbai or Bangalore or Delhi.
Basically its diversity and i'm glad India enjoys that and hopefully we will stop stuffing down Hindi and nationalism down people's throat and at least try to learn one more Indian language other than Hindi.

 

[JaDed]

Islam to South India has come from Arab and they are neither interested in Urdu nor Sufism.

 

[ihsri aha]

Who said we are not interested in Sufism? [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]

 

[Syed1]

We Pakistanis have very little in common with South India. Indian Punjab and the northern provinces have the same culture, diet and moral values, but South India is totally different and is shrouded in mystery for most Pakistanis.

 

[JaDed]

Who said we are not interested in Sufism? [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]

I live in Chennai and the Tamil Muslims are least interested in it!Although Ar Rahman converted to sufism but most don't care.Please mind the keyword=tamil and not other muslims living here.

 

[mithun_minhas]

http://www.quora.com/Tamil-language...-the-letter--in-English/answer/Nagarjuna-Asam

Still Kanimoli is sounds better than writing Kanimozhi.

I have seen people write Tamil as Tamizh.

 

[Thivagar]

We Pakistanis have very little in common with South India. Indian Punjab and the northern provinces have the same culture, diet and moral values, but South India is totally different and is shrouded in mystery for most Pakistanis.

In Canada, Tamil youths and Punjabi youths have a lot in common, esp when it comes to fighting, looking tougher than they actually are, and etc. If a university hosts a party night for Punjabi students or Tamil students at a banquet hall, you are expecting at least 2 fights, 1 ambulance and several police cars to be present at the end of the night. Pakistani and guju parties are harmless. A newly arrival Pakistani kid in a highschool is more likely to get a long with another Indian kid(also newly arrival) if he can't find any other Pakistani newly immigrated friend. If a newly immigrated South Indian kid arrives, he is more likely to get along with Sri Lankan tamil speaking kid. I went to a school full of immigrants, this is very common. But for some reason, newly arrived trouble makers from Punjab and newly arrived troublemakers from Sri Lanka,Malaysia/Singapore(Tamil speaking countries) seem to get along real nice lol.

 

[archetype]

In Canada, Tamil youths and Punjabi youths have a lot in common, esp when it comes to fighting, looking tougher than they actually are, and etc. If a university hosts a party night for Punjabi students or Tamil students at a banquet hall, you are expecting at least 2 fights, 1 ambulance and several police cars to be present at the end of the night. Pakistani and guju parties are harmless. A newly arrival Pakistani kid in a highschool is more likely to get a long with another Indian kid(also newly arrival) if he can't find any other Pakistani newly immigrated friend. If a newly immigrated South Indian kid arrives, he is more likely to get along with Sri Lankan tamil speaking kid. I went to a school full of immigrants, this is very common. But for some reason, newly arrived trouble makers from Punjab and newly arrived troublemakers from Sri Lanka,Malaysia/Singapore(Tamil speaking countries) seem to get along real nice lol.

As someone going to university in Canada, I notice that Sri Lankan Tamils are totally different from Indian Tamils. Not sure why. A lot of SL Tamil guys are into the "gangster" culture. Indian Tamils tend to be very academic and studious.

 

[Slog]

In Canada, Tamil youths and Punjabi youths have a lot in common, esp when it comes to fighting, looking tougher than they actually are, and etc. If a university hosts a party night for Punjabi students or Tamil students at a banquet hall, you are expecting at least 2 fights, 1 ambulance and several police cars to be present at the end of the night. Pakistani and guju parties are harmless. A newly arrival Pakistani kid in a highschool is more likely to get a long with another Indian kid(also newly arrival) if he can't find any other Pakistani newly immigrated friend. If a newly immigrated South Indian kid arrives, he is more likely to get along with Sri Lankan tamil speaking kid. I went to a school full of immigrants, this is very common. But for some reason, newly arrived trouble makers from Punjab and newly arrived troublemakers from Sri Lanka,Malaysia/Singapore(Tamil speaking countries) seem to get along real nice lol.

time to change schools maybe...

 

[Slog]

its fascinating to see so many muslims in these south states whereas there doesn't seem to be an overpowering external force (like Mughals)which explains this

 

[Thivagar]

Still Kanimoli is sounds better than writing Kanimozhi.

I have seen people write Tamil as Tamizh.

Tamil has 247 alphabetical letters and 4 alphabets, 1 one of the alphabet only contains 1 alphabetical letter(used to have 249 but they murdered couple of them because they were evil) and we have 3 "L' sounds. They sound like this "L", "EL" and "ELLE"(roll your tongue and touch the roof deeper). No "SH" sounds though. So you'd say her name like "KANIMOLLIEE". When pronouncing the "LLIE" part you need to roll your tongue and touch the furthest part of the roof.

 

[Slog]

[MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION] who's in your avatar?

 

[Thivagar]

time to change schools maybe...

Too late, i graduated from that schools, only to discover there were better looking girls in every other schools in Canada. My school consisted of large newly migrated population, so it wasn't a surprise to see Gujarati being spoken extremely loud across the hallway, we'd use to walk around after school and yell "PATEL" and like 10 different people would turn around and look at us, it used to be entertaining then lol.

 

[mithun_minhas]

Are the Dalits of India doing better than the Kafirs of Pakistan? Are there laws against Dalits as well?

Dalits get oppressed in villages and other remote areas. It is slowly fading away though. A lot of them have converted to Christianity and Islam. Mostly Christianity. In Cities, nobody cares who the other person is.

There are laws against atrocities committed on Dalits. You cannot even call them names without getting your **** getting kicked in the Police Station. Dalits and tribals enjoy reservations in Educational institutions and Govt Jobs. I think it is 20-30% in most states. Of course these reservations are misused. The rich Dalits keep using the facilities and the poor ones do not even know they have it.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Are the Dalits of India doing better than the Kafirs of Pakistan? Are there laws against Dalits as well?

at least the minorities in pakistan have a representative in you on PP. Don't think there is any dalit on this forum.

 

[mithun_minhas]

at least the minorities in pakistan have a representative in you on PP. Don't think there is any dalit on this forum.

We had one guy who is a tribal. I remember him mentioning that he belonged to Mahar tribe from Maharashtra. But again, tribals are different from Dalits.

Dalits I have known showed no interest in Cricket. Even the rich ones. They just did not care much about it. I remember a few Dalits in my school and college days who were Vinod Kambli fans. The moment he got out, they all left. He was Tendulkar for them.

 

[Sandeep]

[MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION] who's in your avatar?

Remember Phil Hughes?

 

[yeh cheez]

at least the minorities in pakistan have a representative in you on PP. Don't think there is any dalit on this forum.

Perhaps because this is a Pakistani forum, not an Indian one. [emoji15]

 

[Slog]

Remember Phil Hughes?

ohh how did I miss it

ill say its a weird angle :/

 

[Sandeep]

It is not in our culture or religion to deem anyone "untouchable". I agree non-Muslims (nobody uses the word Kafir, which is highly derogatory) are not highly protected by the law, but there is no specific agenda to keep them at bay.

The senate and national assembly have reserved seats for non-Muslims in both the houses, I don't know if India has the same for Dalits.

Let's not go there mate. India has reservations for everything including the legislative representation.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Guys, this thread is about South India. Not about minority rights in Pakistan.

 

[praveen]

Still Kanimoli is sounds better than writing Kanimozhi.

I have seen people write Tamil as Tamizh.

Because it IS Tamizh and not Tamil The English language doesn't have an alphabet to capture that particular phonetic. So the closest representation is 'Zh'. Substituting it with 'L' is incorrect but it simplifies a lot of things and hence used widely.

And Kanimoli does not sound better. Mozhi means language and Moli (as far as my limited knowledge goes) does not mean anything.

 

[kaayal]

For all Tamils and Mallus, why do you use the alphabet "Zh"? Wouldn't it be simple to use "L" instead?

Like Karunanidhi's daughter's name is "Kanimozhi". A non-tamil/mallu person will read it as he sees it. Can't it be written as "Kanimoli" instead? This one never made sense to me.

In Telugu, there is a similar alphabet. People substitute it with "L" in English.

L and zh are totally different sounds...how can we use L instead of zh??

 

[par]

Why is Cronje pronounced Cronye?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Why is Cronje pronounced Cronye?

jajaja

 

[Syed1]

Why is Cronje pronounced Cronye?

Because its a dutch name.. and 'j' is pronounced as 'ye' in dutch.

 

[Swanny]

Why do most southies have a snobbish attitude ?

 

[CricketCartoons]

In Kerala, a couple is living in fear amidst threat to their life as they belong to different religions. Isn't Kerala a secular state, or was that a lie?

 

[kaayal]

In Kerala, a couple is living in fear amidst threat to their life as they belong to different religions. Isn't Kerala a secular state, or was that a lie?

From where did you get that secular nonsense from??? We have that bullying muslims,christians and hindus everywhere here.

 

[ihsri aha]

Naan Thamizhan da [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]

 

[CricketCartoons]

From where did you get that secular nonsense from??? We have that bullying muslims,christians and hindus everywhere here.

Oh yes. Kerala is God's Own Country. How can it be secular. I used to think that Kerala is an example of communal harmony and secularism. But I guess it was another myth just like the "rational minds". I see more [MENTION=77677]IgnitedMind[/MENTION] s than RationalMinds.

 

[JaDed]

Why do most southies have a snobbish attitude ?

I would beg to differ.They only thing that gets them annoyed is rubbing hindi down their throats.

 

[kaayal]

Oh yes. Kerala is God's Own Country. How can it be secular. I used to think that Kerala is an example of communal harmony and secularism. But I guess it was another myth just like the "rational minds". I see more [MENTION=77677]IgnitedMind[/MENTION] s than RationalMinds.

Ofcourse Kerala is God's own Country because of it's natural beauty. Only thing I noticed different from other states is that we have uniform development in both villages and cities. Even the villages are not village anymore...they are all miniature cities.

 

[Swanny]

I would beg to differ.They only thing that gets them annoyed is rubbing hindi down their throats.

Northies are brash but well meaning like virat, uv, GG; Mah, Kar people are humble like rahane, sachin, dravid, etc; but southies are snobbish like ashwin.

Southies are least welcoming people that is the general feeling you get.

 

[JaDed]

Northies are brash but well meaning like virat, uv, GG; Mah, Kar people are humble like rahane, sachin, dravid, etc; but southies are snobbish like ashwin.

Southies are least welcoming people that is the general feeling you get.

I don't wanna generalize so lets just leave it.I have had a great time time with my south Indian friends.

 

[niishaa]

Northies are brash but well meaning like virat, uv, GG; Mah, Kar people are humble like rahane, sachin, dravid, etc; but southies are snobbish like ashwin.

Southies are least welcoming people that is the general feeling you get.

Kar means karnataka !! if so then karnataka is in south!! Also Andhra/Telangana people are the most welcoming and friendly people i have ever met.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Kar means karnataka !! if so then karnataka is in south!! Also Andhra/Telangana people are the most welcoming and friendly people i have ever met.

Of course, since your husband is from AP.

 

[niishaa]

Of course, since your husband is from AP.

That too! but the locals here are very nice.both bangalore and hyderabad are very welcoming to outsiders.

 

[Swanny]

Chillax guys its ipl season

It was just an observation based on casual conversation with freinds who have lived there for studies & my own interactions with co passangers on the trains.

 

[mallu]

It was just an observation based on casual conversation with freinds who have lived there for studies & my own interactions with co passangers on the trains.

So you have included Maharashtra in your list. Another poster had said it was not in the north (West India).
What do you have to say about the creation of ShivSena then ?

It was just an observation based on casual conversation with freinds who have lived there for studies & my own interactions with co passangers on the trains.

People in trains are robbed in Bihar. So should we paint the whole north with the same brush?

 

[RWAC]

Absolutely love Tamil food!

 

[mithun_minhas]

The most awesome name I heard in my life was of a Tamil boy from my Engineering days. His name was - Tamizhendi.

I asked him its meaning and he told me, it means - Glory/Victory to Tamil.

 

[CricketCartoons]

People in trains are robbed in Bihar. So should we paint the whole north with the same brush?

If a train is passing through Bihar, it will slow down, and people will board even the AC compartments and ask for a seat. There is no security at all.

 

[endymion248]

Why is Cronje pronounced Cronye?

"je" means small in dutch and is pronounced ye.

 

[Slog]

"je" means small in dutch and is pronounced ye.

small time cronie?

 

[saintgrace]

at least the minorities in pakistan have a representative in you on PP. Don't think there is any dalit on this forum.

I am dalit. Too much generalization here about how dalit and tribals treated in India.
Pros to be a Dalit :
reservation
more political protection because of vote bank.

cons to be dalit:
untouchability
people's view change once they know you are dalit
hard to get girls even if you are good looking. People dont give girls to dalits but dont mind marrying one.

Untouchability is still true in my village. I never lived there but i have visited in 2015 Jan. My driver lost the way and he asked for location inside the village about particular "locality". you can see how they don't like us from their face expression. Later when we reached our house neighbors told my dad that villagers are not liking the successful people from our cast for obvious reasons.

Now, another aspect, my brother in law just got married to upper cast girl. so let's not generalize about how dalit's are treated in india. They do have difficulty in rurar area but urban areas nobody care.

By the way I live in canada and even here, there are upper cast groups which doesn't allow us to in their special garba party. So when people say " You can never get the india out of indian", it always implies me the castism.

 

[saintgrace]

For some reason, south india dalits are really well off then their northen part.

 

[mithun_minhas]

2 of my relatives married Dalit guys.

One guy is from UP and the other is from Andhra Pradesh. They all live in Bangalore where people do not care about Caste much. If they live in villages, they will surely get noticed.

 

[saintgrace]

Ofcourse Kerala is God's own Country because of it's natural beauty. Only thing I noticed different from other states is that we have uniform development in both villages and cities. Even the villages are not village anymore...they are all miniature cities.

Kerala is "Allah's own country". that is what we talked when i was growing up in india. Too much support for marxis , muslim goons there. Quit a bit hold of muslims and christians in politics and they do misuse it some times.

 

[mithun_minhas]

For some reason, south india dalits are really well off then their northen part.

Huge vote bank. Some Dalits used Reservation to the max and they are very rich now.

Dalits are again divided into various castes. Some Dalit Castes are rich while other are dirt poor.

 

[saintgrace]

Huge vote bank. Some Dalits used Reservation to the max and they are very rich now.

Dalits are again divided into various castes. Some Dalit Castes are rich while other are dirt poor.

Education and reservation have done wonders for southern state dalits. Some casts does utilize it to max so they are good well off financially right now.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I am dalit. Too much generalization here about how dalit and tribals treated in India.
Pros to be a Dalit :
reservation
more political protection because of vote bank.

cons to be dalit:
untouchability
people's view change once they know you are dalit
hard to get girls even if you are good looking. People dont give girls to dalits but dont mind marrying one.

Jai Bhim.

 

[Slog]

2 of my relatives married Dalit guys.

One guy is from UP and the other is from Andhra Pradesh. They all live in Bangalore where people do not care about Caste much. If they live in villages, they will surely get noticed.

how do u know that someone is a dalit

why cant they just get away with lying abt it?

 

[mithun_minhas]

how do u know that someone is a dalit

why cant they just get away with lying abt it?

In India, for weddings, Parents ask the Gothra (Lineage) of Guy or Girl. It is very important because people of same Gothra cannot marry.

If a guy is a Dalit, he has no Gothra. Even if the guy or girl fakes, once families meet, it will be crystal clear. Parents gather info from neighbors about the family. Total Jasoosi is done privately.

 

[saintgrace]

In India, for weddings, Parents ask the Gothra (Lineage) of Guy or Girl. It is very important because people of same Gothra cannot marry.

If a guy is a Dalit, he has no Gothra. Even if the guy or girl fakes, once families meet, it will be crystal clear. Parents gather info from neighbors about the family. Total Jasoosi is done privately.

you can accurately guess from last name also.
In gujarat, Shah, Patel, bhat, joshi are upper cast. Parmar, vankar, mochi surnames are usually belong to dalit.

 

[saintgrace]

Jai Bhim.

Jai Bhim.
not sure what that mean by the way? how ambedkar related to bhim?

Dr ambedkar lately was converted to buddhism(sri lankan one). He was invited to convert into islam, sikhism, christanitity but he chose buddhism. I still didnt understand from where the jai bhim came from.

 

[mithun_minhas]

you can accurately guess from last name also.
In gujarat, Shah, Patel, bhat, joshi are upper cast. Parmar, vankar, mochi surnames are usually belong to dalit.

Parmar is Rajput.

My colleague is a Parmar. He is a Gujju and Rajput.

 

[mithun_minhas]

Jai Bhim.
not sure what that mean by the way? how ambedkar related to bhim?

Dr ambedkar lately was converted to buddhism(sri lankan one). He was invited to convert into islam, sikhism, christanitity but he chose buddhism. I still didnt understand from where the jai bhim came from.

His name is Bhim Rao Ambedkar.

 

[saintgrace]

Parmar is Rajput.

My colleague is a Parmar. He is a Gujju and Rajput.

Not every one. Another exaple is Rathod. Half of my family are rathod and other half are parmar. Rathod considered as rajput so as parmar. but not all.

 

[Adil_94]

In India, for weddings, Parents ask the Gothra (Lineage) of Guy or Girl. It is very important because people of same Gothra cannot marry.

If a guy is a Dalit, he has no Gothra. Even if the guy or girl fakes, once families meet, it will be crystal clear. Parents gather info from neighbors about the family. Total Jasoosi is done privately.

Dont people of the same caste have the same lineage somewhere down the line

 

[mithun_minhas]

Dont people of the same caste have the same lineage somewhere down the line

Nope.

Brahmins for example have several Gothras (Lineages) from various Sages (Rishis). People who have the same lineage cannot marry each other. it is considered inbreeding if people of Same Gothras marry.

 

[Adil_94]

Nope.

Brahmins for example have several Gothras (Lineages) from various Sages (Rishis). People who have the same lineage cannot marry each other. it is considered inbreeding if people of Same Gothras marry.

So say if you were related to someone from 10 generations back would that be considered inbreeding.


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[mithun_minhas]

So say if you were related to someone from 10 generations back would that be considered inbreeding.


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If I were to marry a Tamil Girl or Punjabi Girl with the same Gothra as mine, it would be considered inbreeding. It does not matter how many generations or the location of the Bride and Groom.

Sounds ridiculous sometimes.

 

[Electron]

So say if you were related to someone from 10 generations back would that be considered inbreeding.


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Technically, yes. Big shots pandits have a database where they can track my ancestry to last many many generations. I was in Haridwar where I met a random big-shot Pandit. I was surprised to see that he knew more about my forefathers than me or my father. He still had all the data about their Kundlis and offsprings.

I still don't know how these things work, but the level of details they have held on to since generations is astounding.

 

[Electron]

If I were to marry a Tamil Girl or Punjabi Girl with the same Gothra as mine, it would be considered inbreeding. It does not matter how many generations or the location of the Bride and Groom.

Sounds ridiculous sometimes.

Really? Makes no sense.