South India

[street cricketer]

Jallikattu ban is actually a joke,all the calves that were trained to be doing Jallikattu are being given away for slaughter and butchers are buying them,remarkable hypocrisy of SC,they just never seem to be on right side this past 2 years.

Guess from being indifferent to it finding this annoying habit of any regional culture being looked down upon,I understand casteism as that promotes discrimination and division but this ban looks totally flawed.

Problem with the SC and these organizations like PETA is that they hardly understand the ground realities. Jallikattu isn't even a universal practice among tamilians. It's restricted to rural areas and that too in specific areas of TN (mainly centred around Madurai). I doubt any of these uptight snobs in the SC and the PETA know about the kind of relationship the farmers share with the cattle they rear. They consider them almost a part of their family, cows are given the utmost reverence by them as they are an integral part of their life.

Problem with oxen are that their uses have become obsolete now apart from breeding purposes. They were used for ploughing fields in the past but they have been replaced now by tractors. So there's practically no incentive for people to raise them and jallikattu is probably the only reason they are still in use. So the abolition of the festival might result in the eradication of native breeds which I think is a vaild enough reason.

Secondly it's a part and parcel of maatu pongal in villages which is basically a day to celebrate the cattle which play a starring role in the lives of farmers in villages. I don't think you should interfere in that. Bursting of crackers cause pollution to the environment but I don't know how well it would be received by the public if the SC implements a nation wide ban on the bursting of crackers on Diwali. The SC should stay out of cultural customs like that.

 

[JaDed]

Problem with the SC and these organizations like PETA is that they hardly understand the ground realities. Jallikattu isn't even a universal practice among tamilians. It's restricted to rural areas and that too in specific areas of TN (mainly centred around Madurai). I doubt any of these uptight snobs in the SC and the PETA know about the kind of relationship the farmers share with the cattle they rear. They consider them almost a part of their family, cows are given the utmost reverence by them as they are an integral part of their life.

Problem with oxen are that their uses have become obsolete now apart from breeding purposes. They were used for ploughing fields in the past but they have been replaced now by tractors. So there's practically no incentive for people to raise them and jallikattu is probably the only reason they are still in use. So the abolition of the festival might result in the eradication of native breeds which I think is a vaild enough reason.

Secondly it's a part and parcel of maatu pongal in villages which is basically a day to celebrate the cattle which play a starring role in the lives of farmers in villages. I don't think you should interfere in that. Bursting of crackers cause pollution to the environment but I don't know how well it would be received by the public if the SC implements a nation wide ban on the bursting of crackers on Diwali. The SC should stay out of cultural customs like that.

Couldn't have said it better,I too support PETA but they are defn on wrong side of it,you should check out how this case actually got expanded its a joke honestly.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Madurai/Lawyer-reminisces-the-day-jallikattu-was-banned-first/article17039812.ece

SC leaves half of the things to parliament anyway how come they didn't do the same,travesty.Trusts are actually adopting these bulls when they are being given away for massacre,I don't support the personal remarks against Trisha as she has done a lot for animals esp Chennai street dogs,but SC is at total fault here.

 

[street cricketer]

Those who said remarks against Trisha are idiots obviously.

PETA isn't an evil organisation. It does a lot of good things. It's just that it's out of sync with the ground realities in certain issues..

 

[CricketCartoons]

Not sure what you are referring to , but am a kannadiga(Technically) and I like Tamilians . Genuine people , only problem being they are not diplomatic and are often misunderstood .

Technically? Is your mother tongue Kannada? Your liking Tamilians is good, but you must be aware of the issues between the two communities. How cars having tamil nadu numbers are vandalized whenever their is cauvery issue, for example.

 

[Thivagar]

Those who said remarks against Trisha are idiots obviously.

PETA isn't an evil organisation. It does a lot of good things. It's just that it's out of sync with the ground realities in certain issues..

Disrespecting a woman and her family is Tamil culture? You should be ashamed to call yourself a Tamilian or even speak about Tamil culture.”

They are idiots but she had it coming. In social media when you say stupid things you are expected get attacked by trolls, especially those issue that has ballooned it like this jallikattu issue. She should have just said how she never supported the ban on jallikattu, but nope. She started shaming the trolls about how they should be ashamed of being "Tamilians"(hate this word) and fueled them even more. You can't blame them for finding pictures of her drinking and uploading them after what she said. I don't have twitter account, after reading all the tweets and memes, I'm thinking about signing up.

 

[Pollack]

Jalikattu ki wajah se liberals and peta ki jali hui hai.

 

[SandyB]

So that is where the saree tax and the namboodiri-nair marriage ritual comes from.

I beleive what you are referring to is "Mulakkaram: aka Breast Tax ,by which women of lower caste were required to pay a tax to cover their bosom in public.

 

[Thivagar]

That has always been there mate,till 1965 or something the DMK,DK's were asking for independence as well, guess later with sedition get outlawed and MGR being pro Indian and death of Rajiv Gandhi things turned around.

In this issue tbh I find the SC at fault,the whole case how it exploded was remarkable ,it wasn't even a case on Jallikattu and got expanded on that by a judge in Madras HC.

This is the problem with Indian SC when it comes to laws like this and then BCCI they want to interfere directly but then when Homosexuality law or beef laws are concerned they pass it on to Parliament ,don't even understand how they function here.They didn't know anything when Karnataka was supposed to release water to TN which was their order.

I'm a supporter of PETA but sometimes they are too radical for their own good,also how people are picking on Trisha is terrible shows how low people can go.

Like I said before, even the Lefts/Liberals in India are actually more extreme than the ones here. So far only the feminists in India hasn't got to the level of feminists here and I hope they don't get to that level. In US and Canada, it is very bad. These "feminists" shame men and everything associated with men at all costs. Women get treated way better here and yet they have problem with this society. I see pictures of Peta India ceo with leather clothes being shared. SC of India wants to make themselves look tough. It is a good in one way but banning on jallikatttu is dumb.

 

[JaDed]

Like I said before, even the Lefts/Liberals in India are actually more extreme than the ones here. So far only the feminists in India hasn't got to the level of feminists here and I hope they don't get to that level. In US and Canada, it is very bad. These "feminists" shame men and everything associated with men at all costs. Women get treated way better here and yet they have problem with this society. I see pictures of Peta India ceo with leather clothes being shared. SC of India wants to make themselves look tough. It is a good in one way but banning on jallikatttu is dumb.

Yeah but that is because women are still not treated well in India in most rural areas(which form large part of our society).
TBF though with many NGO and GOI initiatives and women working things are turning around but such huge population ,I reckon this will be a decade where women do really well in India professionally ,lets see how that effects the social structure though.

 

[Thivagar]

Sarathkumar beefing with Rajnikanth

 

[JaDed]

Wow I didn't evn know Cho Ramasamy died ,most useless TN news comes on alert to me ,hated when there was just side news of Raghuvaran's death

 

[street cricketer]

Wow I didn't evn know Cho Ramasamy died ,most useless TN news comes on alert to me ,hated when there was just side news of Raghuvaran's death

Died a day after Jaya died..

 

[JaDed]

Died a day after Jaya died..

Yeah my parents were in town then as well,that's the reason i missed it darnit! He deserved more fame than what he deserved atleast the PM paid tribute to him.

Feels like the legends of TN are dying off late eventhough that's just exaggerated in my mind.

 

[JaDed]

Seeing really stupid comments by many people now including my friends the hatred everyone had is coming out,everyone is making massive assumptions and lol as usual Brahmins getting the brunt for being part of Animal Welfare board ) ,sorry to say but so many years of discrimination this was bound to happen.

 

[troodon]

Seeing really stupid comments by many people now including my friends the hatred everyone had is coming out,everyone is making massive assumptions and lol as usual Brahmins getting the brunt for being part of Animal Welfare board ) ,sorry to say but so many years of discrimination this was bound to happen.

I am too lazy to go over all the comments, but can you explain the bolded part?

 

[troodon]

So it was veggie Brahmin conspiracy to ban Jallikattu.

I don't exactly know what Jallikattu is, but is this where bulls are made to run and men have to wrestle them while breaking their bones like they do in spain?

 

[JaDed]

So it was veggie Brahmin conspiracy to ban Jallikattu.


I don't exactly know what Jallikattu is, but is this where bulls are made to run and men have to wrestle them while breaking their bones like they do in spain?

Not sure about the Brahmin conspiracy could be :/

No ,get on the bull and stop it after its released into the crowd. Bulls are trained since calf and same bulls are used to breeding too.

There has been a increase in selling off these trained bulls to butchers after Jallikattu got banned due to the stupidity of PETA. Some charities bought them and are taking care of them.

 

[Thivagar]

Seeing really stupid comments by many people now including my friends the hatred everyone had is coming out,everyone is making massive assumptions and lol as usual Brahmins getting the brunt for being part of Animal Welfare board ) ,sorry to say but so many years of discrimination this was bound to happen.

Not sure if I told you this but my friend, his college mates from Madurai and I were having a dinner at a Chettinad restaurant here. When we were done and walking out, one of the Madurai guy said "The restaurant is filled with Brahmins" with a disgruntled face. I questioned how he knew they were all Brahmins and he said he knows from his experience. I can confirm this hatred.

Also lot of memes calling for a ban on Eid since it involves killing a cow.

 

[Thivagar]

This jallikattu issue is the boiling point. With weaker leaders like Sasikala/O.Paneerselvam and Stalin/Alagiri set to rule Tamil Nadu people of Tamil Nadu and youth especially will be more active. Politicians in power have to now work for the people.

 

[JaDed]

This jallikattu issue is the boiling point. With weaker leaders like Sasikala/O.Paneerselvam and Stalin/Alagiri set to rule Tamil Nadu people of Tamil Nadu and youth especially will be more active. Politicians in power have to now work for the people.

Full day of protests,even my Office whole area blocked everyone was going for 1 hr here and there to protest not liking the "boiling" point though some people are getting really agitated when anyone has opposite view.

 

[BeautifulGame]

We are protesting to preserve Jallikattu not just because its the cultural sport of Tami Nadu and its the key to preserve our native breeds.There were 130 or so cattle breeds in India 100 years ago and now there are only 37.If not preserved they will also soon become extinct and without Jallikattu its not possible.

https://thewire.in/19157/banning-jallikattu-will-decimate-indias-indigenous-cattle-breeds/

 

[street cricketer]

Protesting against the jallikattu ban is definitely justified.

But I just hope that we are able to focus on the farmers plight as well which is a more pressing issue imho but is not getting anywhere near the same attention. More than 200 farmers have died in the state due to drought which should never happen and is very saddening when you hear their stories.

 

[Thivagar]

Jallikattu is still banned and meeting with Modi hasn't changed anything. Interesting times.

 

[Thivagar]

Did any of you participate in the Jallikattu protest?

 

[SandyB]

Not taking a stand on the Jallikattu issue here, since in Kerala we too have a mixed track record when it comes to elephants being used in all our temple rituals .. The SC has every right to come after us too . And once they start going for everyone, I do see a complete Meat Ban in India happening at some point .. So irrespective of the rights/wrongs the protests are vital to send a message to our SC's overreach. !

But I'm finding it hard to fathom the sheer hypocrisy of Artists like Vishal who was vociferous in his protest of Kerala's decision to kill stray dogs that were attacking people..


Now that jallikettu is an issue that can affect his movie's business, he has stuffed his extreme animal love under the table !

Pretty much the same with all those Animal loving celeb's in South India.. The moment it risks affecting their public standing they all take spectacular U-turns.. Ditto with Dhanush's statements today.. http://www.hindustantimes.com/regional-movies/jallikattu-peta-s-hottest-vegetarian-award-an-insult-says-dhanush/story-JPg6m9GloUP0ATXiw27GeI.html


Its amazing how people still fall for the holier-than-thou attitudes of these celebs..

 

[Thivagar]

Not taking a stand on the Jallikattu issue here, since in Kerala we too have a mixed track record when it comes to elephants being used in all our temple rituals .. The SC has every right to come after us too . And once they start going for everyone, I do see a complete Meat Ban in India happening at some point .. So irrespective of the rights/wrongs the protests are vital to send a message to our SC's overreach. !

But I'm finding it hard to fathom the sheer hypocrisy of Artists like Vishal who was vociferous in his protest of Kerala's decision to kill stray dogs that were attacking people..
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Now that jallikettu is an issue that can affect his movie's business, he has stuffed his extreme animal love under the table !

Pretty much the same with all those Animal loving celeb's in South India.. The moment it risks affecting their public standing they all take spectacular U-turns.. Ditto with Dhanush's statements today.. http://www.hindustantimes.com/regional-movies/jallikattu-peta-s-hottest-vegetarian-award-an-insult-says-dhanush/story-JPg6m9GloUP0ATXiw27GeI.html


Its amazing how people still fall for the holier-than-thou attitudes of these celebs..

Vishal is a crook, he just got exposed. 2 weeks ago he said that everyone must abide by the law of SC in the matter of Jallikattu and then he claimed he never said he was against jallikattu. He claimed he didn't even know the acronym of PETA and someone found an audio of his speech where he clearly says the full form. He is being beaten black and blue on twitter. Use #vishal hashtag on twitter and look it up. Vishal is not even Tamil. Politicians and actors are also getting butchered on social media. People have had enough of this. Supposedly Virat Kohli signed for Jallikattu to be banned as well.

LOL Vishal claimed he was going to see see Modi and talk about his as if he matters to Modi. People only watch Vishal movies on pirated dvds and online, who is Vishal to Modi ? LOL. Never trust these actors or actresses.

 

[JaDed]

There has been some ugly turns in the protests as to where the protesters are not ready to listen to the opposing views and there seems to be a massive underlying Tamil Culture superiority thereby alienating the non-Tamil speaking population.

Overall though its a very good time to be in Chennai for Tamilians,people are helping each other out and since the flood this has once again created massive unity among people here where they are not letting any political party/actor take advantage of the situation.

My neighbors and family friends are actually going around giving food and biscuits to all protesters who are protesting in Marina,imo in long term this will be very good for Tamil Nadu as such.

 

[troodon]

There has been some ugly turns in the protests as to where the protesters are not ready to listen to the opposing views and there seems to be a massive underlying Tamil Culture superiority thereby alienating the non-Tamil speaking population.

Overall though its a very good time to be in Chennai for Tamilians,people are helping each other out and since the flood this has once again created massive unity among people here where they are not letting any political party/actor take advantage of the situation.

My neighbors and family friends are actually going around giving food and biscuits to all protesters who are protesting in Marina,imo in long term this will be very good for Tamil Nadu as such.

I Hope it does not create US vs THEM culture in Tamilnadu.

Tamils are very accepting people as long as you don't mess with their language.

 

[JaDed]

I Hope it does not create US vs THEM culture in Tamilnadu.

Tamils are very accepting people as long as you don't mess with their language.

True and no it won't as politicians haven't been able to hijack the agenda,they are being kept at a distance.

 

[Thivagar]

I Hope it does not create US vs THEM culture in Tamilnadu.

Tamils are very accepting people as long as you don't mess with their language.

The government and national media has already did. It took some time for the mass to realize, when they did they couldn't do much. Politics is governed by 2 corrupt parties and even film stars are scared of these parties. Now they realize this is their turn to raise their voice and are very stubborn about it. Jallikattu was banned in 2014 but where were these people then ? It is a matter of people not being able to handle anymore.

 

[Thivagar]

There has been some ugly turns in the protests as to where the protesters are not ready to listen to the opposing views and there seems to be a massive underlying Tamil Culture superiority thereby alienating the non-Tamil speaking population.

Overall though its a very good time to be in Chennai for Tamilians,people are helping each other out and since the flood this has once again created massive unity among people here where they are not letting any political party/actor take advantage of the situation.

My neighbors and family friends are actually going around giving food and biscuits to all protesters who are protesting in Marina,imo in long term this will be very good for Tamil Nadu as such.

Like I said before, everything in sub continent is extreme, liberal = extreme, conservative = extreme and this one too. General people are overtly abusing DMK and ADMK which no one did other than TV channels belonging to parties. Everyone knows that both parties and their politicians are just as corrupt. Only Jayalalitha had some what of respect among people but now she is dead, Sasikala/OP and Deepa (lol) groups all appear fake. Their body language is not all right and even Jayalalitha expelled her from the party. Interesting time for Tamil Nadu. I wonder how it is among less multicultural cities. I'm okay with Vishal and Arya being abused but not okay with being called Telugu/Malayalee while being accused. Arya can't even speak Malayalam properly and Vishal was born and raised in Chennai all his 40 years of his life.

How are non-Tamils viewing this ? Is there any ill feeling towards North Indians in Chennai after this ?

 

[kaayal]

The government and national media has already did. It took some time for the mass to realize, when they did they couldn't do much. Politics is governed by 2 corrupt parties and even film stars are scared of these parties. Now they realize this is their turn to raise their voice and are very stubborn about it. Jallikattu was banned in 2014 but where were these people then ? It is a matter of people not being able to handle anymore.

Tbh i was wondering the same. What were they doing 2yrs back when the ban actually started?? What happened now suddenly to start such a protest?? Traditions were also same back then...

 

[Thivagar]

Tbh i was wondering the same. What were they doing 2yrs back when the ban actually started?? What happened now suddenly to start such a protest?? Traditions were also same back then...

Post #670 and #671. Basically people got sick and tired of being treated like they don't matter. TN politicians are worst of the worst, especially the DMK, they sold their people out for power and money. DMK and ADMK have many corruption charges and when they try to act up, the central government put pressure on them by bringing up their old cases. DMK will do anything for power. Younger generation (40 and under) hated politics as long as I can remember, the simple phoniness of these politicians only made them boil up. only 57% of voters voted in TN in the last election. Year and a half ago about 20 workers from Tamil Nadu were murdered by the Andhra Police in the name of "encounter", accused of smuggling Red Sandalwood and attempting to attack the police when confronted. Apart from police no one believed the story and even the investigators were baffled by the claim. Eye witnesses and autopsy indicated that they were shot at very close proximity. Apparently the murder was a warning sign from one politician to another politician in Andhra. Political rivalry took the lives of innocent people that had nothing to do with it. Google "2015 Red Sandalwood Encounter". Everyone was ticked off in Tamil Nadu and Jayalalitha couldn't say or talk much since CM of Andhra Pradesh was Chandra Babu Naidu, who is an ally of Modi and BJP. This is just one example. MPs from Tamil Nadu can topple the central government at anytime and always had the power of doing it but they never did it or threatened as power was more important than anything else.

This is the result of suppressed anger and disappointment from all these years. This is not just about Jallikattu.

 

[JaDed]

Like I said before, everything in sub continent is extreme, liberal = extreme, conservative = extreme and this one too. General people are overtly abusing DMK and ADMK which no one did other than TV channels belonging to parties. Everyone knows that both parties and their politicians are just as corrupt. Only Jayalalitha had some what of respect among people but now she is dead, Sasikala/OP and Deepa (lol) groups all appear fake. Their body language is not all right and even Jayalalitha expelled her from the party. Interesting time for Tamil Nadu. I wonder how it is among less multicultural cities. I'm okay with Vishal and Arya being abused but not okay with being called Telugu/Malayalee while being accused. Arya can't even speak Malayalam properly and Vishal was born and raised in Chennai all his 40 years of his life.

How are non-Tamils viewing this ? Is there any ill feeling towards North Indians in Chennai after this ?

I see many Malayalees being supportive even the telugu people who grewup here are supporting the cause and asking for revoking the ban and banning PETA,I know only 2 North Indian families with whom I grew up in Chennai and they are ok,have a couin of mine and he is more Tamil oriented than Punjabi so he is supporting it.

My friends working with me from other states same(not bothered) and the reason 2014 was controlled is because TN had a CM ,this time though atleast Chennaites have completely given up on politicians and cine stars and forming their own movement,and have been seeing Police and traffic police at every event maintaining calm too.

 

[Thivagar]

[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] forgot to mention this. Lot of people believe pharmaceutical companies are behind this ban through PETA. They claim that if they get rid of Jallikattu, this Alpha Bull breed will die out as they have no use and then they can bring in western cows & bulls to mix with the local breed. Already several states in India are being granted with these western imported cows. These imported cows offer A1 milk which is proven to cause diabetes, cancer and various other disease. The local cows offer A2 milk which is supposed to be much more healthier. Already people claim that there are evidences of strong correlation between rise of diabetes, cancer and other health issues and rise of A1 milk consumption from these imported cows into India. So basically pharmaceutical companies want to make money of Indians and their health. Coca Cola has already penned a deal to manufacture packaged milk drink in India, so people believe they may be also behind it as well.

 

[EliteCynical]

Vishal is a crook, he just got exposed. 2 weeks ago he said that everyone must abide by the law of SC in the matter of Jallikattu and then he claimed he never said he was against jallikattu. He claimed he didn't even know the acronym of PETA and someone found an audio of his speech where he clearly says the full form. He is being beaten black and blue on twitter. Use #vishal hashtag on twitter and look it up. Vishal is not even Tamil. Politicians and actors are also getting butchered on social media. People have had enough of this. Supposedly Virat Kohli signed for Jallikattu to be banned as well.

LOL Vishal claimed he was going to see see Modi and talk about his as if he matters to Modi. People only watch Vishal movies on pirated dvds and online, who is Vishal to Modi ? LOL. Never trust these actors or actresses.

I can't even watch those online. I don't even remember a single movie of his where he was decent.

 

[EliteCynical]

There has been some ugly turns in the protests as to where the protesters are not ready to listen to the opposing views and there seems to be a massive underlying Tamil Culture superiority thereby alienating the non-Tamil speaking population.

Overall though its a very good time to be in Chennai for Tamilians,people are helping each other out and since the flood this has once again created massive unity among people here where they are not letting any political party/actor take advantage of the situation.

My neighbors and family friends are actually going around giving food and biscuits to all protesters who are protesting in Marina,imo in long term this will be very good for Tamil Nadu as such.

Indeed. I asked a question to a friend of mine and he got offended. My question was "who are thes epeople who are protesting? Coz guys like you and me are here in office, so i am wondering whoch cross section do they belong to". He thought I am opposing it and sent me lots of forwards and videos (which i had already seen) which I didn't need. I see a lot of international traction. Tamil folks abroad are actually staging a quiet protest as well. I saw a lot of invites being sent out. Incredible really. This is where social media can be a double edged sword

 

[EliteCynical]

I sincerely believe if JJ was alive she wouldn't have allowed this protest to take place. OP as a chief minister is equated to Goundamani mixture memes these days. I am sure you guys would have caught it [MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION] [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION] and [MENTION=139664]street cricketer[/MENTION]

 

[JaDed]

Indeed. I asked a question to a friend of mine and he got offended. My question was "who are thes epeople who are protesting? Coz guys like you and me are here in office, so i am wondering whoch cross section do they belong to". He thought I am opposing it and sent me lots of forwards and videos (which i had already seen) which I didn't need. I see a lot of international traction. Tamil folks abroad are actually staging a quiet protest as well. I saw a lot of invites being sent out. Incredible really. This is where social media can be a double edged sword

It is indeed incredible from my office my lead(Woman) and team mates everyone was going for 2-3 hrs daily outside the premises to stage protest and give hand to the full day protesters..

True JJ wouldn't have allowed this,but this was something else have been in Chennai for so long but never seen this,people have come out of flats with their children for 2 hrs standing outside gates holding cards,remarkable.

 

[Thivagar]

I sincerely believe if JJ was alive she wouldn't have allowed this protest to take place. OP as a chief minister is equated to Goundamani mixture memes these days. I am sure you guys would have caught it [MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION] [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION] and [MENTION=139664]street cricketer[/MENTION]

It would have been interesting to see how she would have handled this. She may have made a bold statement which would have kept the crowd at bay. I have a feeling that rise of this has something to do with non-existence of a strong leader.

"Coffee with DD, Mixture with Modi"
"Acham Enbadhu Madamayada, Mixture thinbathu Kadamayada"

 

[Thivagar]

I can't even watch those online. I don't even remember a single movie of his where he was decent.

Even Avan Ivan was whack. Don't understand how someone who is so whack can act in 15+ movies. If it wasn't for his background this guy wouldn't have never been an actor. No acting skills what so ever. Avan Ivan and Sathyam may have been the only movie that I have watched from start to finish, even that in a pirated DVD. The news is he is somehow able to produce and sell the movie to distributors, which means he makes money whether the movie runs or not.

 

[Thivagar]

Indeed. I asked a question to a friend of mine and he got offended. My question was "who are thes epeople who are protesting? Coz guys like you and me are here in office, so i am wondering whoch cross section do they belong to". He thought I am opposing it and sent me lots of forwards and videos (which i had already seen) which I didn't need. I see a lot of international traction. Tamil folks abroad are actually staging a quiet protest as well. I saw a lot of invites being sent out. Incredible really. This is where social media can be a double edged sword

What is your background ?

 

[Thivagar]

This is the Bull that was traditionally used during Jallikattu. Now a days they go soft and use less dangerous bulls.

 

[SandyB]

I Hope it does not create US vs THEM culture in Tamilnadu.

Tamils are very accepting people as long as you don't mess with their language.

Sorry to say it's pretty Much US vs THEM on social media..

You can check Kerala FB pages and you can find that most are pro-jallikattu .(for reasons I have already stated) .

But every time someone from Kerala voices support on tamil pages you get opinions like.. "Don't want their support , they dont give us water " "They are just liars, don't trust them ! " and more...

This really pisses me off !! They always try to make it out to be the "Tamil exceptionalism " thing.. Why do some of these people think that they sort of "Own" south India and its cultural heritage ???


Yes we all agree that Tamil preceeded the other south languages and that the ruling Kingdoms from way back spoke what was Tamil back then..

The Brits established Madras as their base in South which is why every resource they needed was arranged to be brought from all the nearby surplus states (eg Water from Kerala & Karnataka ). But does that me that you have the right for the same preferential treatment even now ?

Now we are independent !.. Each state (atleast as per constitution ) is equal in India.. But many people in TN (not all ) voice opinions as if their interests (culture,water,development) are the only ones that matter . This completely chauvinistic stand on issues is actually turning off nearby states from supporting you guys ..

People should learn to take each issue objectively .. Lumping everything together in the name of "India against Tamils "is doing your cause no good.. Already there are pages in FB saying outlandish things like : "No more India, Tamil Nadu is our country,Tamil is our language, Tamil National Anthem , New flag blah blah.. This basically constitutes sedition .. !

What make this a concern is that there are many people who actually beleive this and support these views.. That is not some crazy minority .. !!

The politicians keep promoting these views because this means Tamil people are agitated and will keep the dravidan parties in power.. But in the kind of interdependent Indian economy we live in this can have disastrous consequences. ! Do you think TN can survive as an independent state without resources from the neighbouring states or a market to sell all the products made in its many industries ?.. Good luck !

Sorry to offend the more knowledgeable Tamil posters here, but the last few days on social media really tipped me over !.
Irrespective of all the wholehearted support we have given our neighbors during troubled times (the tsunami,floods) even with all those water wars going on by the side, many people still keep discrediting/disrespecting us as some sort of inferior breakaways from their "super race".. !

And these opinions are not isolated views, they are a result of years & years of propaganda and social engineering by politicians done to make people to think this way.. They can consolidate their vote banks this way but this is happening at a price !

I just hope the protests achieve their objective.. But your relationship with your neighbors and the way they are perceived needs serious working ! We are better of staying together !. You cant win against the Hindi imperialists fighting alone

 

[street cricketer]

Have personally never seen this much unity and revolution among the youth till now. Only seen in films like the jana gana mana song in aayutha ezhuthu. Power of social media makes all the difference.

Looks like the tide has turned against MNC companies like KFC, Pepsi, Coca Cola, etc., and there are calls to use Indian manufactured products only. Pepsi, Coke, Sprite ----> Fresh juice, nungu sharbat, bovonto

Perhaps the biggest positive is that the youth have chased away the political parties and film actors taking advantage of the situation and has largely been done in a peaceful manner without politicising it. Hopefully we can unite for many other causes plaguing the society and let go of the worshipping of political and film icons. As they say, the youth decide the fate of the nation.

 

[street cricketer]

Sorry to say it's pretty Much US vs THEM on social media..

You can check Kerala FB pages and you can find that most are pro-jallikattu .(for reasons I have already stated) .

But every time someone from Kerala voices support on tamil pages you get opinions like.. "Don't want their support , they dont give us water " "They are just liars, don't trust them ! " and more...

This really pisses me off !! They always try to make it out to be the "Tamil exceptionalism " thing.. Why do some of these people think that they sort of "Own" south India and its cultural heritage ???


Yes we all agree that Tamil preceeded the other south languages and that the ruling Kingdoms from way back spoke what was Tamil back then..

The Brits established Madras as their base in South which is why every resource they needed was arranged to be brought from all the nearby surplus states (eg Water from Kerala & Karnataka ). But does that me that you have the right for the same preferential treatment even now ?

Now we are independent !.. Each state (atleast as per constitution ) is equal in India.. But many people in TN (not all ) voice opinions as if their interests (culture,water,development) are the only ones that matter . This completely chauvinistic stand on issues is actually turning off nearby states from supporting you guys ..

People should learn to take each issue objectively .. Lumping everything together in the name of "India against Tamils "is doing your cause no good.. Already there are pages in FB saying outlandish things like : "No more India, Tamil Nadu is our country,Tamil is our language, Tamil National Anthem , New flag blah blah.. This basically constitutes sedition .. !

What make this a concern is that there are many people who actually beleive this and support these views.. That is not some crazy minority .. !!

The politicians keep promoting these views because this means Tamil people are agitated and will keep the dravidan parties in power.. But in the kind of interdependent Indian economy we live in this can have disastrous consequences. ! Do you think TN can survive as an independent state without resources from the neighbouring states or a market to sell all the products made in its many industries ?.. Good luck !

Sorry to offend the more knowledgeable Tamil posters here, but the last few days on social media really tipped me over !.
Irrespective of all the wholehearted support we have given our neighbors during troubled times (the tsunami,floods) even with all those water wars going on by the side, many people still keep discrediting/disrespecting us as some sort of inferior breakaways from their "super race".. !

And these opinions are not isolated views, they are a result of years & years of propaganda and social engineering by politicians done to make people to think this way.. They can consolidate their vote banks this way but this is happening at a price !

I just hope the protests achieve their objective.. But your relationship with your neighbors and the way they are perceived needs serious working ! We are better of staying together !. You cant win against the Hindi imperialists fighting alone

Looks like you're listening to too much of Seeman and his followers.

It's funny how it's always TN which gets accused of being against other states and not accepting of other cultures, yet it is almost always the TN vehicles and shops which get vandalized as soon some water dispute arises and almost never the other way around. There was even a running joke among our friends that never show you're a tamil and speak some kannada or malayalam words when you're in Karnataka or Kerala, lest you may get bashed by the right wing groups of any particular state when tensions were high during the water dispute.

I don't deny that there is a slight negative sentiment with the governments of Karnataka and Kerala due to their governments building dams across the rivers flowing from their states to TN. TN is located in the southernmost edge of India and has a naturally arid climate unlike Kerala or even Karnataka. It doesn't receive rainfall as much as the other states and so is dependent on the rivers flowing from the other states for its water supply. I understand that the states want to secure their own interests first but there are certain things which you can't claim ownage for and water is one among those. Water is the most important thing for life and if there is a water shortage in Karnataka and Kerala, TN will receive even less after what's remaining but has a large agrarian landscape and hence you see so many farmer deaths in times like these (more than 200 have died already).

Anyway even that gripe is only against the state leadership and not the people per se. Nearly 30% of Chennai's population is telugu while a large proportion of Coimbatore's population is malayali. If people had negative sentiments towards people or culture of other states, you won't see such a situation. A lot of TN's leading icons in the past and present have been from outside TN, be it MGR or Rajnikanth or Ajith or even many of the present actors like Vishal, Arya, etc. You won't find people worshipping the above mentioned people if people really weren't accepting of other cultures. There are a minority who may be like that but the majority of people are very accepting as long as you don't mess with their culture. Every guy identifies strongly with some thing, you will find some people getting angry if their religion is insulted, or race is insulted. People identify strongly with their language above most things in the case of tamils and it isn't something unique.

 

[JaDed]

Looks like you're listening to too much of Seeman and his followers.

It's funny how it's always TN which gets accused of being against other states and not accepting of other cultures, yet it is almost always the TN vehicles and shops which get vandalized as soon some water dispute arises and almost never the other way around. There was even a running joke among our friends that never show you're a tamil and speak some kannada or malayalam words when you're in Karnataka or Kerala, lest you may get bashed by the right wing groups of any particular state when tensions were high during the water dispute.

I don't deny that there is a slight negative sentiment with the governments of Karnataka and Kerala due to their governments building dams across the rivers flowing from their states to TN. TN is located in the southernmost edge of India and has a naturally arid climate unlike Kerala or even Karnataka. It doesn't receive rainfall as much as the other states and so is dependent on the rivers flowing from the other states for its water supply. I understand that the states want to secure their own interests first but there are certain things which you can't claim ownage for and water is one among those. Water is the most important thing for life and if there is a water shortage in Karnataka and Kerala, TN will receive even less after what's remaining but has a large agrarian landscape and hence you see so many farmer deaths in times like these (more than 200 have died already).

Anyway even that gripe is only against the state leadership and not the people per se. Nearly 30% of Chennai's population is telugu while a large proportion of Coimbatore's population is malayali. If people had negative sentiments towards people or culture of other states, you won't see such a situation. A lot of TN's leading icons in the past and present have been from outside TN, be it MGR or Rajnikanth or Ajith or even many of the present actors like Vishal, Arya, etc. You won't find people worshipping the above mentioned people if people really weren't accepting of other cultures. There are a minority who may be like that but the majority of people are very accepting as long as you don't mess with their culture. Every guy identifies strongly with some thing, you will find some people getting angry if their religion is insulted, or race is insulted. People identify strongly with their language above most things in the case of tamils and it isn't something unique.

Good post,most people have formed opinions based on news and social media I can personally vouch that its not like how people assume,would say that even my family in Delhi/Punjab have made massive assumptions.

But one thing stands Chennai has the worst auto guys imo ,and being a guy is mental torture but even in that I actually made friends with the auto stand outside my flats and was sad when one of them died recently as I had been seeing him for ever now.

Glad for OLA/Uber.

 

[EliteCynical]

Sorry to say it's pretty Much US vs THEM on social media..

You can check Kerala FB pages and you can find that most are pro-jallikattu .(for reasons I have already stated) .

But every time someone from Kerala voices support on tamil pages you get opinions like.. "Don't want their support , they dont give us water " "They are just liars, don't trust them ! " and more...

This really pisses me off !! They always try to make it out to be the "Tamil exceptionalism " thing.. Why do some of these people think that they sort of "Own" south India and its cultural heritage ???


Yes we all agree that Tamil preceeded the other south languages and that the ruling Kingdoms from way back spoke what was Tamil back then..

The Brits established Madras as their base in South which is why every resource they needed was arranged to be brought from all the nearby surplus states (eg Water from Kerala & Karnataka ). But does that me that you have the right for the same preferential treatment even now ?

Now we are independent !.. Each state (atleast as per constitution ) is equal in India.. But many people in TN (not all ) voice opinions as if their interests (culture,water,development) are the only ones that matter . This completely chauvinistic stand on issues is actually turning off nearby states from supporting you guys ..

People should learn to take each issue objectively .. Lumping everything together in the name of "India against Tamils "is doing your cause no good.. Already there are pages in FB saying outlandish things like : "No more India, Tamil Nadu is our country,Tamil is our language, Tamil National Anthem , New flag blah blah.. This basically constitutes sedition .. !

What make this a concern is that there are many people who actually beleive this and support these views.. That is not some crazy minority .. !!

The politicians keep promoting these views because this means Tamil people are agitated and will keep the dravidan parties in power.. But in the kind of interdependent Indian economy we live in this can have disastrous consequences. ! Do you think TN can survive as an independent state without resources from the neighbouring states or a market to sell all the products made in its many industries ?.. Good luck !

Sorry to offend the more knowledgeable Tamil posters here, but the last few days on social media really tipped me over !.
Irrespective of all the wholehearted support we have given our neighbors during troubled times (the tsunami,floods) even with all those water wars going on by the side, many people still keep discrediting/disrespecting us as some sort of inferior breakaways from their "super race".. !

And these opinions are not isolated views, they are a result of years & years of propaganda and social engineering by politicians done to make people to think this way.. They can consolidate their vote banks this way but this is happening at a price !

I just hope the protests achieve their objective.. But your relationship with your neighbors and the way they are perceived needs serious working ! We are better of staying together !. You cant win against the Hindi imperialists fighting alone

Sorry to hear that you feel like that however I feel social media is the wrong place to judge a section of people. Indian psyche is yet to come to terms to have a decent debate on social media. It is either idol worship or keyboard war. I think we will mature in that aspect as well. Until then unfortunately people would copy paste some nonsense spouted by some dimwit and create memes out of those and publish each time there is a discussion, to prove their point. I believe things would change TBH.

 

[street cricketer]

Apparently youngsters sent 7kg mixture (snack item) to the chief minister's office by parcel..

Is this true lmao?

 

[EliteCynical]

What is your background ?

Namma Chennai thaan. Reg Avan Ivan, it was a poor man's pithamagan and Bala was horrible with that. Another guy who knows nothing about acting is Arya. Kollywood is laden with fools like these, unfortunately who end up getting some title and fan club. Among all these I find Karthi to be decent and in fact I like his movies.

 

[EliteCynical]

Apparently youngsters sent 7kg mixture (snack item) to the chief minister's office by parcel..

Is this true lmao?

ROFL if this is true.

 

[street cricketer]

Good post,most people have formed opinions based on news and social media I can personally vouch that its not like how people assume,would say that even my family in Delhi/Punjab have made massive assumptions.

But one thing stands Chennai has the worst auto guys imo ,and being a guy is mental torture but even in that I actually made friends with the auto stand outside my flats and was sad when one of them died recently as I had been seeing him for ever now.

Glad for OLA/Uber.

I can understand why people feel the way they feel about TN from outside. But you don't judge a book by its cover, people should judge after they live in the state.

Auto guys are the worst in Chennai. They swindle so much money and if they detect you're new to Chennai, then you can forget your money. My mom is the expert in bargaining lol. The auto guys in Kerala are god send. Once I travelled in an auto in Kerala and asked for the fare expecting 70 or 80 rupees. The guy told 29 rupees. I was shocked and enquired again because I have never heard of such odd numbers from Chennai auto drivers. They only deal in whole numbers - 50, 100, 150, 200, etc..

 

[street cricketer]

I hope youngsters rise against casteism in TN one day.

Don't see it happening but one can dream.

 

[EliteCynical]

I hope youngsters rise against casteism in TN one day.

Don't see it happening but one can dream.

I would be really happy if it happens some day but it is nearly impossible IMO. Was watching neeya naana regarding this topic and in that some teachers or primary school said that a 5th standard student asks fellow classmates for their jaathi and only mingles around with same folks. Apparently they have been directed to do so by their parents. I don't even think the next generation would be out of this. May be the ones after that.

 

[SandyB]

I can understand why people feel the way they feel about TN from outside. But you don't judge a book by its cover, people should judge after they live in the state.

Auto guys are the worst in Chennai. They swindle so much money and if they detect you're new to Chennai, then you can forget your money. My mom is the expert in bargaining lol. The auto guys in Kerala are god send. Once I travelled in an auto in Kerala and asked for the fare expecting 70 or 80 rupees. The guy told 29 rupees. I was shocked and enquired again because I have never heard of such odd numbers from Chennai auto drivers. They only deal in whole numbers - 50, 100, 150, 200, etc..

The Kerala auto guys vary from district to district... The ones at Kochi are the worst ! Just YouTube to videos of them threaten Uber/Ola drivers from taking trips . Even women passengers were threatened .. The trade unions in our state have empowered many goons among them to do as they please .. Its more goonda Giri here than higher prices ..

 

[Thivagar]

Namma Chennai thaan. Reg Avan Ivan, it was a poor man's pithamagan and Bala was horrible with that. Another guy who knows nothing about acting is Arya. Kollywood is laden with fools like these, unfortunately who end up getting some title and fan club. Among all these I find Karthi to be decent and in fact I like his movies.

Vishal, Arya, Shiva, Vimal have all hit jackpots and lets not even talk about Udhayanidhi . Even Karthi is doing the same thing again and again. I watched his Naan Mahaan Alla and Aayirathil Oruvaan in theatre and enjoyed both. AO should only be experienced in theatre. Then watched Siruthai in theatre and never watched any of his movies ever in theatre.

 

[JaDed]

Vishal, Arya, Shiva, Vimal have all hit jackpots and lets not even talk about Udhayanidhi . Even Karthi is doing the same thing again and again. I watched his Naan Mahaan Alla and Aayirathil Oruvaan in theatre and enjoyed both. AO should only be experienced in theatre. Then watched Siruthai in theatre and never watched any of his movies ever in theatre.

Dude Santhanam killed it in Siruthai! Its one f the few movies hit in 3 languages of India although the hindi one was cringeworthy.

Karthi's Madras was good dude,really liked it much better than overhyped Vishwaroopam, Jai is actually very underrated imo ,does good cinema.

 

[JaDed]

I have come to realize that on screen Rajni-Ajith-Vijay's Murgadoss ones are the Tamil actors I like seeing , hated Jayam Ravi speaking to camera in Thani Oruvan but Arvinth Killed it.

Among Malayalees Mamooty is remarkable and so is his son(whom I have grown recently fond of),Nivin Pauly is another actor who would not get the fame of Dulquer but is better actor. Not a fan of Mohanlal.

I ve tried to watch Telugu movies multiple times not able to bear it sadly,I think I can take the Tamil-Hindi OTT action because I've watched them since childhood,if not that too would had been a tough thing.

 

[Thivagar]

Dude Santhanam killed it in Siruthai! Its one f the few movies hit in 3 languages of India although the hindi one was cringeworthy.

Karthi's Madras was good dude,really liked it much better than overhyped Vishwaroopam, Jai is actually very underrated imo ,does good cinema.

Comedy was the only good thing in Siruthai and that is when Sanathanam used to be funny and didn't try be a full fledged actor. I forgot Madras, Madras was good and Kaakitha Kappal is very underrated, they just messed up the visualization. Jai is not bad at all, Nandha is underrated. I hope he acts in more movies.

 

[Thivagar]

Have personally never seen this much unity and revolution among the youth till now. Only seen in films like the jana gana mana song in aayutha ezhuthu. Power of social media makes all the difference.

Looks like the tide has turned against MNC companies like KFC, Pepsi, Coca Cola, etc., and there are calls to use Indian manufactured products only. Pepsi, Coke, Sprite ----> Fresh juice, nungu sharbat, bovonto

Perhaps the biggest positive is that the youth have chased away the political parties and film actors taking advantage of the situation and has largely been done in a peaceful manner without politicising it. Hopefully we can unite for many other causes plaguing the society and let go of the worshipping of political and film icons. As they say, the youth decide the fate of the nation.

Never been this proud of TN youths, always thought they were useless as ever but now this is special. During a Puthiya thalaimurai interview, they had couple of politicians and few organization with youngsters go ahead and have a debate. The politicians surely have no respect, they are deluded and will do anything. They all got destroyed to the max. Jaya TV and Sun News reporters had to report from roofs since the Youth kicked them away from the premises. Only few Tv channels are being allowed into the crowd. I'm surprised that even Rajnikanth is being mocked. Hopefully celebrity worshiping and politician fear are gone forever.

 

[Thivagar]

Good post,most people have formed opinions based on news and social media I can personally vouch that its not like how people assume,would say that even my family in Delhi/Punjab have made massive assumptions.

But one thing stands Chennai has the worst auto guys imo ,and being a guy is mental torture but even in that I actually made friends with the auto stand outside my flats and was sad when one of them died recently as I had been seeing him for ever now.

Glad for OLA/Uber.

Go into more details bro, I'd like to hear.

 

[EliteCynical]

I have come to realize that on screen Rajni-Ajith-Vijay's Murgadoss ones are the Tamil actors I like seeing , hated Jayam Ravi speaking to camera in Thani Oruvan but Arvinth Killed it.

Among Malayalees Mamooty is remarkable and so is his son(whom I have grown recently fond of),Nivin Pauly is another actor who would not get the fame of Dulquer but is better actor. Not a fan of Mohanlal.

I ve tried to watch Telugu movies multiple times not able to bear it sadly,I think I can take the Tamil-Hindi OTT action because I've watched them since childhood,if not that too would had been a tough thing.

Yes agreed. Dulqeer is very talented. I even like Mohanlal. His movie Thala vattam which was a copy of one flew over the cuckoo's nest, was epic. I like the low profile Tamil movies of the ones starring Atharva or the Thegudi guy. As you say Jayam Ravi, Vikram Prabhu, Udayanithi etc. who are around only because of their dad, and all are a pain to watch. Jeeva is the exception IMO. I really liked Ko.

I can speak Telugu, so do watch the movies. Some of the movies are good, but as you say majority are OTT masala action, which is also something I don't mind watching.

 

[Thivagar]

7 1/2 Sani has started for Ram Gopal Varma.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Tamil <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/jaijallikattu?src=hash">#jaijallikattu</a> culture is about brutalising poor animals then Al Qaeda's culture of beheading innocent people also is right</p>— Ram Gopal Varma (@RGVzoomin) <a href="https://twitter.com/RGVzoomin/status/822492659658813441">January 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Thivagar]

This is creative way to protest and it was initially started when the electricity around the Marina beach was deactivated to prevent protesting. Now they are doing this regularly.

 

[JaDed]

Go into more details bro, I'd like to hear.

For one thing if they figure out u r not from Chennai mate u r getting robbed as they never put "meter" secondly so many times if u bargain and agree to a destination then they would never reach the destination and say like u said here we won't go inside and all,another if u refuse an auto from autostand they wouldn't let u get another(although that has changed now).
Plus in my office side they make 5 people sit in that small auto and take 15 bucks from each to go a distance of 2 km man,terrible I say and dangerous too.

 

[JaDed]

Yes agreed. Dulqeer is very talented. I even like Mohanlal. His movie Thala vattam which was a copy of one flew over the cuckoo's nest, was epic. I like the low profile Tamil movies of the ones starring Atharva or the Thegudi guy. As you say Jayam Ravi, Vikram Prabhu, Udayanithi etc. who are around only because of their dad, and all are a pain to watch. Jeeva is the exception IMO. I really liked Ko.

I can speak Telugu, so do watch the movies. Some of the movies are good, but as you say majority are OTT masala action, which is also something I don't mind watching.

Yeah Jeeva is hot and cold imo some movies he does well and so not,my wife likes him though and see bothh of us didn't even speak about Kannada movies but apparently they are really doing well in the independent movies.

 

[Thivagar]

For one thing if they figure out u r not from Chennai mate u r getting robbed as they never put "meter" secondly so many times if u bargain and agree to a destination then they would never reach the destination and say like u said here we won't go inside and all,another if u refuse an auto from autostand they wouldn't let u get another(although that has changed now).
Plus in my office side they make 5 people sit in that small auto and take 15 bucks from each to go a distance of 2 km man,terrible I say and dangerous too.

Is that share auto ? When I was in Trichy, you order an auto and only you rode on it, they wouldn't even bring another one.

 

[JaDed]

Is that share auto ? When I was in Trichy, you order an auto and only you rode on it, they wouldn't even bring another one.

Yes that one is share auto but same size. basically its should be made as illegal for so many ppl to sit.

 

[Thivagar]

Yes that one is share auto but same size. basically its should be made as illegal for so many ppl to sit.

Never had it or seen that in Trichy till i was there. In North America there is "Uber Pool" which is same as share auto.

 

[Thivagar]

They are clearing protesters and there only about several hundred protesters on the beach as of now. Is that all you guys got ?

 

[JaDed]

Never had it or seen that in Trichy till i was there. In North America there is "Uber Pool" which is same as share auto.

No its not bro! We have Ola pool its not the same i can tell u.

 

[Thivagar]

Hip Hop Thamizha is a dud. He told everyone to go home all of a sudden citing that there are few anti-muslim and anti-national elements. How stupid this guy can get ? How can you tell people to go home because of few idiots. Brain dead behaviour.

 

[JaDed]

Hip Hop Thamizha is a dud. He told everyone to go home all of a sudden citing that there are few anti-muslim and anti-national elements. How stupid this guy can get ? How can you tell people to go home because of few idiots. Brain dead behaviour.

Not really man,apparently his photo and name was being used for those rallie and it was Coimbatore ones not the Chennai ones, basically political outfits were trying to sabotage it.

 

[Thivagar]

Not really man,apparently his photo and name was being used for those rallie and it was Coimbatore ones not the Chennai ones, basically political outfits were trying to sabotage it.

Then he should have just shut up and left, why is he telling people to go home ?Among 100,000s, you will have few idiots. GV and Samuthurakani are on to him.

 

[JaDed]

Then he should have just shut up and left, why is he telling people to go home ?Among 100,000s, you will have few idiots. GV and Samuthurakani are on to him.

That's what he actually did, but people questioned as to why he left,Coimbatore is tough nut mate also what is the protest still going on for?

RJ Balaji is like they are going to do it for every issue,but the initial protest IIRC was done by taking permission from police.

 

[SandyB]

Yes agreed. Dulqeer is very talented. I even like Mohanlal. His movie Thala vattam which was a copy of one flew over the cuckoo's nest, was epic. I like the low profile Tamil movies of the ones starring Atharva or the Thegudi guy. As you say Jayam Ravi, Vikram Prabhu, Udayanithi etc. who are around only because of their dad, and all are a pain to watch. Jeeva is the exception IMO. I really liked Ko.

I cannot bring myself to understand people's fascination (especially non-keralites)with this dude.!!

His dad is the most powerful man in the Kerala film industry and has practically spoon-fed him a successful movie career. Right from his debut he has had the best directors and scripts lined up for him simply by virtue of being Mammooty's son. The guy even decides his co-stars and leading ladies.

Compare that to poor Nivin Pauly who had had to struggle A LOT to get to the position he is in the industry .

In terms of talent most movie-going keralites put him behind Prithviraj, Fahad Fazil and Nivin. His last few performances have been better, but check out his work before 2016; he plays pretty much the same kind of charachter in most of his films.. Can't dance or do decent comedy..

I'm no way deriding him as talentless.. But this goes to show that nepotism provides such a safe cushion to reasonably talented actors to have a successful career. Something talented outsiders like Nivin could barely afford.. Even Prithviraj , who is a Late actor's (Sukumaran, who dies when he was only a child) son , had to go through a long grind of hits & flops and work his way to where he is.. ! Really pains it to see some have it way too easy .

 

[JaDed]

I cannot bring myself to understand people's fascination (especially non-keralites)with this dude.!!

His dad is the most powerful man in the Kerala film industry and has practically spoon-fed him a successful movie career. Right from his debut he has had the best directors and scripts lined up for him simply by virtue of being Mammooty's son. The guy even decides his co-stars and leading ladies.

Compare that to poor Nivin Pauly who had had to struggle A LOT to get to the position he is in the industry .

In terms of talent most movie-going keralites put him behind Prithviraj, Fahad Fazil and Nivin. His last few performances have been better, but check out his work before 2016; he plays pretty much the same kind of charachter in most of his films.. Can't dance or do decent comedy..

I'm no way deriding him as talentless.. But this goes to show that nepotism provides such a safe cushion to reasonably talented actors to have a successful career. Something talented outsiders like Nivin could barely afford.. Even Prithviraj , who is a Late actor's (Sukumaran, who dies when he was only a child) son , had to go through a long grind of hits & flops and work his way to where he is.. ! Really pains it to see some have it way too easy .

if that's ur logic then u wud hate bollywood,agreed on Nivin more dynamic actor,didn't even realize he was in Bangalore days till i saw it second time.

 

[JaDed]

God how stupid can the TN police be got caught spreading fire to Autos )

 

[SandyB]

if that's ur logic then u wud hate bollywood,

I do dislike bollywood , unless its an Amir Khan flick . Some of the recent Akshay movies are better too .Also a sucker for crime films (Rakht Charitra etc) . Otherwise I avoid bollywood.

But Malayalam cinema used to have such higher standards in the past when it came to talent atleast . Star kids almost always flopped .Nepotism never got an actor/actress beyond the first 2-3 films. You needed serious talent & effort to survive. That was a big differentiator from the general trend in South (Tamil-Telugu)..

It seems our starts too have aped the Telugu - Tamil model., where every start goes out of his way to launch every male in his family to the screen, pretty much riding on the family name.! Not just Dulquer , Mohanlal, Jayaram, Suresh Gopi are all at various stages of launching their sons careers..

Its far more damaging in Malayalam because its a small film industry , when Mammootty & Mohanlal control a lions share of the entire movie business ( Production, distribution, Studios) and have loyalists among producers & directors, it creates such an unbalanced environment for newcomers(outsiders) to succeed.

Had "Thattathin marayathu"(2012) flopped, Nivin's career as a lead actor would have been over for most purposes.. Look at another promising youngster like Tovino Thomas ("Guppy" - 2016's most underrapreciated film ). Not the case with the rabid fan base of Mammooty and Mohanlal who'll push for their idols's sons movies to a decent run at the BO, however bad the movies are..

agreed on Nivin more dynamic actor,didn't even realize he was in Bangalore days till i saw it second time.

Isn't it incredible that Nivin can pull of such a low key /sidelined role in Bangalore days and then go on to do an absolute masala role in Premam(2015) with aplomb.. That's what you call ability .. Not just doing pretty much the same role over and over different movies, till you make it work & then claiming accolades for it ...

 

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I do dislike bollywood , unless its an Amir Khan flick . Some of the recent Akshay movies are better too .Also a sucker for crime films (Rakht Charitra etc) . Otherwise I avoid bollywood.

But Malayalam cinema used to have such higher standards in the past when it came to talent atleast . Star kids almost always flopped .Nepotism never got an actor/actress beyond the first 2-3 films. You needed serious talent & effort to survive. That was a big differentiator from the general trend in South (Tamil-Telugu)..

It seems our starts too have aped the Telugu - Tamil model., where every start goes out of his way to launch every male in his family to the screen, pretty much riding on the family name.! Not just Dulquer , Mohanlal, Jayaram, Suresh Gopi are all at various stages of launching their sons careers..

Its far more damaging in Malayalam because its a small film industry , when Mammootty & Mohanlal control a lions share of the entire movie business ( Production, distribution, Studios) and have loyalists among producers & directors, it creates such an unbalanced environment for newcomers(outsiders) to succeed.

Had "Thattathin marayathu"(2012) flopped, Nivin's career as a lead actor would have been over for most purposes.. Look at another promising youngster like Tovino Thomas ("Guppy" - 2016's most underrapreciated film ). Not the case with the rabid fan base of Mammooty and Mohanlal who'll push for their idols's sons movies to a decent run at the BO, however bad the movies are..



Isn't it incredible that Nivin can pull of such a low key /sidelined role in Bangalore days and then go on to do an absolute masala role in Premam(2015) with aplomb.. That's what you call ability .. Not just doing pretty much the same role over and over different movies, till you make it work & then claiming accolades for it ...

Malayalam cinema used to be really good ,i do agree its slightly more commercialized now ,wonder if that's owing to GCC boxooffice , Ore Kadal imo made me realize even the top actor can do diff cinema in Malayalam,but they have to retire man WTH was Gangster?? Even Mohanlal is degrading himself.

I think Dulquer is liked outside Kerala for basically 2 reasons:
1.The guy has massive PR owing obviously to his dad
2.Looks ,there is no denying he has very good looks although his voice is not even 1/10th of Mamooty.
3.The scripts which he gets irrespective of how it is,creates a very urban liking to him which is why he is so famous and usually in cities.

Nivin Pauly is even my partner's fav,and we really like the way he goes on about his roles,wish such actors success.


BTW Amir Khan is also from Film family bro,his uncle was a big time Bollywood director and Amir was child artist in a film.