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Spoiler Alert - India vs Pakistan games in Asia cup will be closer than many expect

In emerging Asia cup, abhishek scored 35 at 160 sr.He will go after every one.He shields head in ipl against kuldeep, varun , bishnoi etc quality spinners .He smoked rashid quite a bit .
Attacking batsmen are also more likely to give you a chance. It takes one special delivery. An error of judgment early in the innings, and you could be on your way. The key for opposition teams will be to get him early.

Remember Viv in the 1983 World Cup final. Windies needed a mere 184 in 60 overs. If they wanted, they could have approached it like a test match, but Viv tried to go for glory too soon; he went for a needless aerial shot, and the rest is history. There was nothing special about that ball from Madan Lal. Sometimes, pressure can make you do strange things.
 
Attacking batsmen are also more likely to giveu you a chance. It takes one special delivery. An error of judgment early in the innings, and you could be on your way. The key for opposition teams will be to get him early.
I agree with u but the present game strategy itself warrants that.Thats why every team needs batting till 8 to push it.even pak have faheem at 8 for the same purpose.
 
Abrar is a decent spinner but he is no Afridi or Ajmal and even he troubled Gill and eventually got his wicket. What is the weakness of A Sharma ? He seems to be a very dangerous batsman who can change game in few overs. Sufyan got his wicket in emerging cup so can we say he is weak against spinners as well ?
Every batsman would have got out to some bowler lol We can't use that as a metric to judge their ability.

Abhisehak vs Rashid khan
36 balls 82 runs 7 sixes

Abhishek vs Adil Rashid
25 balls 62 runs 7 sixes

Abhishek vs Sunil Narine
25 balls 51 runs 5 sixes
 
Attacking batsmen are also more likely to give you a chance. It takes one special delivery. An error of judgment early in the innings, and you could be on your way. The key for opposition teams will be to get him early.

Remember Viv in the 1983 World Cup final. Windies needed a mere 184 in 60 overs. If they wanted, they could have approached it like a test match, but Viv tried to go for glory too soon; he went for a needless aerial shot, and the rest is history. There was nothing special about that ball from Madan Lal. Sometimes, pressure can make you do strange things.
Isn't it the same method that Pakistan tries to copy with less skill sets? Keep attacking? Yes teams can collapse. Remember even with old team India was what 20 for 3 in the world T20 final. Axar patel belted them all over.
 
Abrar is a decent spinner but he is no Afridi or Ajmal and even he troubled Gill and eventually got his wicket. What is the weakness of A Sharma ? He seems to be a very dangerous batsman who can change game in few overs. Sufyan got his wicket in emerging cup so can we say he is weak against spinners as well ?
That ball from Abrar was unplayable, and any batsman in the world would have gotten out to it. The Emerging Asia Cup and the Asia Cup are two different ball games. Right now, Abhishek Sharma has the best average and strike rate against spinners. A weakness is when a batsman keeps getting out repeatedly to a certain type of delivery or bowler—otherwise, anyone can fall to a good ball. Abhishek Sharma’s weakness is the right-arm inswing delivery, and Gill’s weakness is also the right-arm inswing delivery. And yes, Gill doesn’t play spin all that well either.
 
Highly unlikely - yes it's a T20 and the chances of that happening will be there but very very unlikely. India is too strong.
 
Exceptions happen.

We also beat you guys in Asia Cup T20 and WT20 2021
Pakistan played India twice in 2018 without Kohli in Asia cup. One lost by 8 wickets. Another lost by 9 wickets. You beat India with Kohli. So your theory of removing kohli will automatically make your life easier has no empirical evidence. New team may be better than without Kohli as they won 25 out of 31 matches since Kohli's retirement losing only 5. I see this prediction based on history more often with pakistan fans. It is a new day. new match. The guys who failed before may be the match winner this time.
 
Pakistan played India twice in 2018 without Kohli in Asia cup. One lost by 8 wickets. Another lost by 9 wickets. You beat India with Kohli. So your theory of removing kohli will automatically make your life easier has no empirical evidence. New team may be better than without Kohli as they won 25 out of 31 matches since Kohli's retirement losing only 5. I see this prediction based on history more often with pakistan fans. It is a new day. new match. The guys who failed before may be the match winner this time.
We would have won in 2022 as well if not for Kohli after 2021.

2018 is 7 years ago. I'm talking about period 3/4 years back.
 
We would have won in 2022 as well if not for Kohli after 2021.

2018 is 7 years ago. I'm talking about period 3/4 years back.
Have you ever considered you cannot make predictino for Abhishek sharma/Sanju samson/Tilak varma/Gill based on what Kohli/Rohit sharma/KL Rahul/dhawan did against a completely different team of yours. you just lost to afghanistan with this team. You lost a series to Bangladesh with this team. But you somehow use history to predict.
 
That ball from Abrar was unplayable, and any batsman in the world would have gotten out to it. The Emerging Asia Cup and the Asia Cup are two different ball games. Right now, Abhishek Sharma has the best average and strike rate against spinners. A weakness is when a batsman keeps getting out repeatedly to a certain type of delivery or bowler—otherwise, anyone can fall to a good ball. Abhishek Sharma’s weakness is the right-arm inswing delivery, and Gill’s weakness is also the right-arm inswing delivery. And yes, Gill doesn’t play spin all that well either.
In this squad, only Hassan Ali has that inswing but he won't play. I hope they will play Wasim Jr instead of Harris but that seems unlikely.
 
That ball from Abrar was unplayable, and any batsman in the world would have gotten out to it. The Emerging Asia Cup and the Asia Cup are two different ball games. Right now, Abhishek Sharma has the best average and strike rate against spinners. A weakness is when a batsman keeps getting out repeatedly to a certain type of delivery or bowler—otherwise, anyone can fall to a good ball. Abhishek Sharma’s weakness is the right-arm inswing delivery, and Gill’s weakness is also the right-arm inswing delivery. And yes, Gill doesn’t play spin all that well either.
Archer is one of the finest bowle ragainst left hander. He was murdered by Abhishek. He doesn't stay in the crease. He comes out more often than not. Look at first ball 147.8 kph from Archer. Coming into him. He thrashed over extra cover for six

 
Pace or spin has never really been a problem for Abhishek Sharma. If anything troubles him, it’s the swinging deliveries from right-arm pacers. For example, in that same series, Mark Wood dismissed him with an inswinger, and in the Bangladesh series, Tanzid Tamim also troubled him with the inswing and even picked up his wicket that way. If Abhishek avoids playing cross-batted shots and instead uses a straight bat to negotiate wicket-to-wicket length balls, then I think he can be a tough challenge for any opposition bowler. Another key factor to watch will be how he handles the sluggish Dubai wickets, where the ball tends to hold up a bit—whether he can still play his free-flowing shots there, or whether he adapts his game accordingly.
Archer is one of the finest bowle ragainst left hander. He was murdered by Abhishek. He doesn't stay in the crease. He comes out more often than not. Look at first ball 147.8 kph from Archer. Coming into him. He thrashed over extra cover for six

 
It will be close if 5-6 members of the Indian team have the worst match of their life, but if they play even half-decent cricket, they will walk over this pathetic Pakistan team led by a bang average captain.
 
In this squad, only Hassan Ali has that inswing but he won't play. I hope they will play Wasim Jr instead of Harris but that seems unlikely.
Wasim Jr. has been a very inconsistent bowler. I think in the Emerging Asia Cup, Abhishek handled Wasim quite well. Hasan Ali is a decent bowler, but I doubt he’ll be able to trouble Abhishek on the Dubai pitch.
 
Will Hesson play two specialist spinners now against India ?
Surely not. Dubai pitch ll be more pacer-friendly than Sharjah. Two spinner option ll be used by teams in later stages. India ll play Kuldeep, Varun and Bumrah only as bowlers if they make the finals.
 
Kohli was our nemesis. He is not playing now
Yes, sure. Against Pak he was on a different level but India is probably playing a brand of T20 cricket where none of the Asian counterpart can replicate at the moment and Ind is too good in this format too. And for good reason - their investment on grassroot cricket is giving them plenty of players. Where as PAK/BD does not focus on grassroot - unsure about SL.
 
Since no spoiler thread yet from brother @The Bald Eagle , I thought of initiating one :)

There’s been plenty of chatter about the upcoming Asia Cup clashes between India and Pakistan. A lot of Indian fans seem convinced that victory is all but assured, given India’s strong T20 record. On paper, the rankings certainly back that view: India sit at No. 1 while Pakistan are down at No. 7.

But T20 cricket is nothing if not unpredictable. Let’s look at the last five encounters:
  • 24 Oct 2021 – Pakistan beat India by 10 wickets (Dubai)
  • 28 Aug 2022 – India won in the last over
  • 4 Sept 2022 – Pakistan beat India
  • 23 Oct 2022 – Kohli pulled off a miracle win
  • 9 Jun 2024 – Bumrah snatched victory at the death
What’s interesting is that India haven’t managed a single comprehensive T20 win over Pakistan in this period – unlike their more dominant and one sided ODI encounters. Every game has gone down to the wire.

This makes me believe the upcoming Asia Cup encounters will be much tighter than many expect. Adding to the intrigue, it will be the first time in years that India face Pakistan without either Kohli or Rohit in the XI.

I still think India will come out on top, but Pakistan are unlikely to be a cakewalk. Buckle up, this could get spicy.

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Wait… what game? You’ve been telling us all that the game isn’t going to happen. Now you make a thread about?
 
I'm seeing a lot of arrogance from Indian experts and ex cricketers.

India is indeed a better side but it will not bode well for them if they lose a game against Pakistan.
 
I'm confident it'd be a close match. The quality of the surface, the format and Pakistan winning the toss should guarantee a close finish
 
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