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Sri Lanka v Pakistan | Asia Cup: Match 1 | Dambulla | 15/06/2010 | Pakistan Innings

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There we have it.Really needed Younis and Yousuf today.Typical of us to yell for youngsters and when they disappoint we want them dropped.Didnt appreciate what we had in the 2Ys who were great at chasing.
 
No surprise. Some things never change, Pakistan can't chase whether it's 30 or 300.
 
<< Rashid >> said:
Game over Asif out....cant survive one lousy delivery.

Razzaq's fault, he saw Malinga reversing it, he knows Asif is a bunny, caved under pressure.
 
That was the first time that the final wicket + pakistan losing actually made me laugh....................an 8yr old kid could bat better than this guy.
 
Sledger said:
No surprise. Some things never change, Pakistan can't chase whether it's 30 or 300.

To be fair this is different, GOOD fight shown by Pakistan and Afridi :14: From 32-4 we could've collapsed to <100 all out, well done Pakistan.
 
This team needs batsmen, no batsmen can be regarded as good or even reliable. Pakistan will ALWAYS be the same until the batting line up changes.
 
I tunred off the voice when Malinga was bowling to Asif, why cant he even hold a bat, in this day and age that is suicidal!!!
 
Abdullah22 said:
Ah from 34-4 to this not bad, don't care about the cup,just win against India
Agree with this. The loss doesn't really matter.. it's all about England. A win against India is the only thing Pakistan should want from this tourny. :wasim
 
Not sure what the use of taking the powerplay was when you weren't going to take chances at all.
 
Poison said:
Razzaq's fault, he saw Malinga reversing it, he knows Asif is a bunny, caved under pressure.

You cant just blame Razzaq, he required Asif to play 1 ball, whats to say that he would have not got a single off that last ball.

Blaming mentality has to stop.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Like I was saying, Razzaq has looked after himself first and failed to protect the tail. Not great.
He tried to protect Asif but Asif was running and Razzaq had no choice but to get through for the leg-bye
 
Razzaq needs to take responsibility for this loss. Can't understand the point of exposing Asif to malinga.

A shame we lost despite Afridi's brilliance.


There have been many positives for Pakistan though. The bowling was good, the fielding great (mainly), and Afridi and Akmal Jr played well. But in the end, some very mediocre Cricket, mainly by Razzaq.
 
Poison said:
Razzaq's fault, he saw Malinga reversing it, he knows Asif is a bunny, caved under pressure.
Yeah, but what was he to do when Asif was half way down?

Damn it!!
 
ahmed16 said:
You cant just blame Razzaq, he required Asif to play 1 ball, whats to say that he would have not got a single off that last ball.

Blaming mentality has to stop.

Batting with a number 11 who's average is less than 5 would lead most batsmen to take a chance with that last ball, considering they're facing someone with a 4 for already, with a dark and swinging ball.

Not really blaming, but if it came down to one moment that was it.
 
Sledger said:
Agree with this. The loss doesn't really matter.. it's all about England. A win against India is the only thing Pakistan should want from this tourny. :wasim
This is the mentality that causes us Pakistani's to go backwards, why dont you want to win every single cup :afridi :(
 
Asif was running down the other end as if he was going to hit Malinga out of the park next ball
 
Momo said:
Razzaq needs to take responsibility for this loss. Can't understand the point of exposing Asif to malinga.

A shame we lost despite Afridi's brilliance.


There have been many positives for Pakistan though. The bowling was good, the fielding great (mainly), and Afridi and Akmal Jr played well. But in the end, some very mediocre Cricket, mainly by Razzaq.

blaming mentality has to stop, if anything Asif pushed Razzaq for the run.
 
Totally agree.....we need to get out of that mentality.....we should thrive to win every single game!!!!!
 
Batsmen lost it for us - plus a couple of crucial dropped catches...

Butt's lack of technique, akmal brothers needless run outs and Razaq'a usual brain explosion cost us the game.

Winning is a habit and we need to get into the winning habit prior to the tour of England...As of now our team only knows how to lose.
 
Hard Luck but im pissed at our top 4 batsmen, they were simply pathetic.....Two debutants dissapointed big time. Malik was a flop yet again. Awsome inspiring innings by Afridi, hatts of to him for such a brilliant innings. Out of this huge batting line only 3 scored runs. Afridi, umer akmal n razzak, rest were pathetic. I would appreciate it to loose like this then to see them loosing with humilation. Great fight back by Pak and hats of to them but very unlucky i would say and shame on sangakara for being such a jerk. Clearly afridi was in a lot of pain and he needed a runner but shame on sangakara. really lost the respect i had for him....a shameful behaviour.
 
Poison said:
To be fair this is different, GOOD fight shown by Pakistan and Afridi :14: From 32-4 we could've collapsed to <100 all out, well done Pakistan.
Man,we deserved to be on the winning side due to one man's brilliance..I am really hurt that his spectacular inns couldnt win us the match unfortunately...
 
Pakistan will always be Pakistan.... Mediocre, at times magical, but mainly mediocre.

I can't see this change for the next good 5 or 6 years, this is weak from them, 1 or 2 good players like Afridi and Aamer can be reliable, but other than that, this is one inconsistent team.
 
Abdul Razzaq is a has been, has been for a while.
The likes of him and Scott Styris may make some difference in a T20, but in any other format they are simply a liability.

Most of the time he plays with a dead bat - no real intension of single or anything. Completely agree with the other posters, either he should not have taken the power play and with the field spread play the one two game.

Once the powerplay was taken and the fielders in, it was not going to be easy for the ones and twos. Really should have looked for shots at that point.

I am sorry but he has been like this for ages, the law of averages is against you if you put yourself in a do or die situation.

Yes others were irresponsible too but that is pointless, after afridi got out the game was ours to loose. Just look at the lankan innings - they were 170 odd for 7 yet they reached 240+ with Mathews playing sensibly.

If you admit that Mathews > Razzaq, then boy have our standards fallen.
 
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From cricinfo
Subir: "How easy it is commenting. You say Razzaq should have taken initiative. If Razzaq HAD taken initiative when Afridi was wobbling you'd say - "Why did he need to do it. Afridi was hitting. He only needed to get support""

I am sure there are going to be tons of people saying its Razzaq's fault and this and that, but if anyone is to be blamed for this loss its Salman Butt and all the 'youngsters'.
 
ahmed16 said:
blaming mentality has to stop, if anything Asif pushed Razzaq for the run.
Yes, and that was not intelligent Cricket. Intelligent Cricket would have been, Razzaq telling Asif there was no be no single before the last ball.

The next over was going to be easier for Asif to survive even if Razzaq had failed to take the single.

Well, now the match has ended and I think Pakistan played quite well today. Razzaq should have played more intelligently and if he had got out while doing that, I wouldn't have minded.

I still don't mind the kind of match we played today though. That's because for the most part we played like Markhors.
 
pakbl10 said:
From cricinfo
Subir: "How easy it is commenting. You say Razzaq should have taken initiative. If Razzaq HAD taken initiative when Afridi was wobbling you'd say - "Why did he need to do it. Afridi was hitting. He only needed to get support""

I am sure there are going to be tons of people saying its Razzaq's fault and this and that, but if anyone is to be blamed for this loss its Salman Butt and all the 'youngsters'.

well two rookies, making their debuts, should never have been allowed to bat together...

Once Butt got out, a more experienced batsman should have been sent in at number 3.

Its easy to blame the youngsters, but people should remember that the new ball, under lights, was doing all sorts..Thats when experience was required...
 
Great debuts by the youngsters; Shahzaib and Umar Amin. They really outperformed the senior players like Afridi and Akhter. I think it's about time we replace them with other great youngsters.

We clearly need more young Butt(s) in the team to quench the thirst of some members here at pp.
 
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Venkatesh Prasad giving Butt and Amin batting technique advice? :))
 
IMMY69 said:
well two rookies, making their debuts, should never have been allowed to bat together...

Once Butt got out, a more experienced batsman should have been sent in at number 3.

Its easy to blame the youngsters, but people should remember that the new ball, under lights, was doing all sorts..Thats when experience was required...
I agree they both shouldn't have been allowed to bat together, but this was there chance to prove themselves. And they both threw their wickets away.

Well, whatever whats done is done.
 
ShaazE said:
Great debuts by the youngsters; Shahzaib and Umar Amin. They really outperformed the senior players like Afridi and Akhter. I think it's about time we replace them with other great youngsters.

We clearly need more young Butt(s) in the team to quench the thirst of some members here at pp.

Another melodramatic post. Relax bro, give them some time. At least youngsters have a learning curve. Plus no one called our youngsters to replace Afridi....just the likes of Faisal Iqbal and Misbah. Unless you want them back to just do the same.
 
Razzaq shouldn't have been in the side today and the six from Malinga, which Malik almost took was the difference in the match along with Malinga drop by Butthead. In the end we lost by 16 which is exactly how much Malinga scored.

Good effort by our boys though, the bottom half really fought hard. No shame in losing like this.
 
umar amin's technique looks but for test matches ! shahzaib hasan is just twenty20 player ! he is just a dasher thats it
 
shahzaib hasan cost us the game...dint look convincing at all...atleast umar amin was good defensively...he needs some time to learn the art of rotating the strike and getting the ones and 2s....
 
Nah, I'm all for giving youngsters chances to come up. Just tired of peoples obsession with having nothing but youngsters as if Pakistan's team was a catholic church.
 
ShaazE said:
Nah, I'm all for giving youngsters chances to come up. Just tired of peoples obsession with having nothing but youngsters as if Pakistan's team was a catholic church.
Could not have agreed more. Youngsters are very much needed but you can't throw your wickets away and then expect to be given more chances.
 
all in all as a fair analysis..we did well to restrict srilanka to 243..fielding was ok...cudve been better..salman butts dropped catch might hv been critical in the end...similarly with kamran akmals missed stumping..however umar amin and umar akmal also took good catches...fact is wud we have dismissed lanka for a lower score had v gone for a specialist like saeed ajmal rather than abdul razzaq...i was dissappointed tht the score was 180 odd for 7 and they still managed to get 243...tht said we shudve still chased the score down...it was poor captaincy tht umar amin and shahzaub hasan two rookies had to bat together in a difficult situation..shoaib malik shudve gone in at 3 such tht there was some experience in the middle at tht time...he wudve kept the strike rolling over and maybe those initial overs made the difference in the end...
 
I think we are very unfair in our treatment of our cricketers individually in that we put them in seven heavens if they win and the other place if they fail. It is team sport . If you criticize the team that is understandable but dthe wholeteam will have to take reponsibility. If a player is creitized it should be the ones whowere in a ositgion to do something like win the match but squandered the opportunity First of all I would put Afridi who had done an excellent job and brought so near that I began to fear and said go myself, he is dgoing to throw his wicket. He did. Runs were coming easily in singles and boundries.But his eego would nodt allow him to wait a couple of overs. As isthe case with dour players, he too suffers from a feeling of I have done enough. If I get out now here are others who can finish the job. I am sure if the deficit was a little less, the tail-enders would have given dtheir team about 10/15 more runs. They would not be nervous wrecksthat theywere after Afridi's departure. Akmal brothers also fell foul of this disedase. I believe they have started on a journey of arrogance and perhas lack in confidence. We will have to rediscover ourselves and and win dghe matches. A captain should be allowed to skipper play cricket instead of giving lessons to the team onunity and bhaichara.
 
No worries. The Markhors will win the next matches and bring the shield home, inshaAllah. Today's match was a 'paese poore hogaye' type of match, so no complaints. :)

Shahid's innings was special. One doesn't see such innings too often!
 
This is a brilliant XI
I would remove one opening batsman for Ajmal but otherwise well done to the selectors.
 
Well played SL .. ! Afridi was a treat to watch after such a while.. enjoyed every bit of it.
 
This is better! I had called up GEO a few hours ago to ask them about if they'll be showing highlights of todays game and the guy was absolutely clueless and was rude! I was pretty confident that they will and I've stayed up just to check if they will and now im in the process of recording them to watch at a later time, InshahAllah.
 
ShaazE said:
Nah, I'm all for giving youngsters chances to come up. Just tired of peoples obsession with having nothing but youngsters as if Pakistan's team was a catholic church.

Well then who do you want to play? Senior and experienced players like Misbah, Hafeez and Iqbal? These youngsters didn't take up anyones spot who has been performing.

Plus we didn't have that many. We had just Amin and Shahzaib. U.Akmal and Aamer have been our top performers over the past year and deliver more than the "experienced "players. So I wouldn't really concerned them a "untested" youngster. In reality, we only had 2 new players...the rest have been playing for a while.
 
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