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He's got serious pace, that's for sure. Was quite quick in India as well when our ftb gods were hammering him.
 
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^^Yes, he was getting the ball to seam back in and of course, our FTBs responded incredibly well.
 
IAJ said:
As I have said few times now, Pakistan were lucky he didn't play in the Test matches. He is just too quick for our batsmen who don't have tehnique to cope with quality bowling.
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Well..well..well... It proves that Pakistan also can't play quality pace.. thats too on flat wickets!... There were so many threads blaming india for losing the test series against Aus.. Steve Finn is real talent.. Good Luck Pakistan!
 
Very impressive.I would say it was very fine bowling, bowled at decent pace.
 
he also bowled well against our players in England...

our seamers really need to improve to match the best....currently England, Australia and South Africa have the best fast bowlers.... our 3-0 test series win has masked the deficiencies we have in that area, mainly due to Englands inability to play and dominate spin.

Our seamers have constantly underformed when compared to the likes of Broad, Anderson and now Finn.

Gul although came out of the test series with a reasonable record, I do feel his figures were a bit flattering. Wahab is very very erratic, and canb't be depended upon.

Misbah is aware of the problem too, because he did mention we need to strengthen our batting and need more strength in our fast bowling department. And as our fielding is pretty poor too, it means most of our wins will come down to the briliance of our Spinners.
 
This kid is an all wicket bowler and not somebody like Anderson who is effective only on home conditions. Bowled very well in India too.

Definitely one to look out for the future - could be the next Steyn if managed properly.
 
Steven Finn has arrived.

If he can bowl like this on slightly batsman friendly format (ODI), he can be great in Test with the same control in test as well.

Being tall and athletic bowler from England is not a surprise, but to have control like this is certainly a surprise.

He bowled very well against us in India and now shown same class against Pakistan.

For me he has arrived to cricket.

Good Luck to him.
 
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Finn is The New Bob Willis

.....so in the year 2050 he will be on Sky Sports whinging and ranting like a swivel-eyed looney!






But seriously, his action is very like Bob's - he has similar height, pace and accuracy. Long may it continue.
 
^^
He looks more pleasant than bob though. bob is a thorough curmudgeon and not in a funny way like sir geoffrey.
 
Finn is super fast and accurate.

IMO, the guy is already a star. He just needs to cement his place in Tests.
 
Next Dale Steyn?

Bowls rapid pace, inswing, outswing, can seam it both ways, has a yorker and bouncer.

Potential ATG?
 
Dangerous bowler. Very fast and accurate. At his pace w2w bowling will allways give him wickets.
 
His Yorkers are my fav. It's very hard to bowl those with height like his and very deadly if ball deeps that low from that level.
 
I was surprised how quick he is, regularly hitting 140's on the speed radar. Looks to have a great temperament and control as well. Quality.
 
Took 3 tail end wickets Hafeez and Damad played him with stick of Rhubarb


But he is good
 
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blew the "top" order in 1st odi. finished off the tail in 2nd. cant ask for more versatility from a fast bowler.
 
greekscavenger said:
Next Dale Steyn?

Bowls rapid pace, inswing, outswing, can seam it both ways, has a yorker and bouncer.

Potential ATG?
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Woah.. easy there :P

Lets check. Prior to this he averaged 31 vs India in India and 49 vs India in England and 56 vs Australia in Australia.

He has bowled well but Pakistan's batting isn't the best in ODI's. They struggled against Bangladeshi's as well while Chasing.
 
greekscavenger said:
Next Dale Steyn?

Bowls rapid pace, inswing, outswing, can seam it both ways, has a yorker and bouncer.

Potential ATG?
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:facepalm:

You didnt spend long being quiet after the Test series flogging.

Your side, which is best in the world, the greatest ever, best off field set up of all time which you like to tell us, doesnt think Finn is in your bext XI and you want to talk about potential ATG. Well he needs to get in the team first.
 
If I recall correctly, he took 50 test wickets by the age of 20 and has an average of 26.92?

And it's hardly his fault England Anderson, Broad, Bresnan, Tremlett all in their respective peaks.
 
Fullish length from a towering height, and a controlled line at pace. Nothing but a good bowler, and some great figures in English, Asian and Australian conditions. He is a future star.
 
greekscavenger said:
If I recall correctly, he took 50 test wickets by the age of 20 and has an average of 26.92?

And it's hardly his fault England Anderson, Broad, Bresnan, Tremlett all in their respective peaks.
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Sure, but if you want to say he is a future Dale Steyn he might want to be good enough to get into your team first no?
 
There is a vast amount of difference from bowling 10 overs in an ODI and 20+ in a day of test cricket. The reason Finn isn't in the England test team is because he still has a lot to learn. He was average in the ashes series down under so still has a lot to prove.

On the plus side he is tall, quick and fairly accurate. Best of luck to him.

lol@comparing to Steyn who is a living legend.
 
Saw this thread and it reminded me that Finn worked with Pakistan bowling coach applicant, Ian Pont when Pont was ECB National Skills Set coach at Loughborough.
 
Pace and consistency, touching 90mph!!

great spell from him today
 
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He's had a good test. Hopefully he will be automatically picked in India.
 
cricketworm said:
If he can bowl like this on slightly batsman friendly format (ODI), he can be great in Test with the same control in test as well.

Being tall and athletic bowler from England is not a surprise, but to have control like this is certainly a surprise.

He bowled very well against us in India and now shown same class against Pakistan.

For me he has arrived to cricket.

Good Luck to him.
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Not surprised to see him perform well here. :)
 
Lots to like about this lad. Real trier quick great action. Now england have to decide whether they want a solid worker bresnan who can bat well or a pure fast bowler who can run through lineups in a jiffy. I hope they pick finn in the 11.
 
James said:
He's had a good test. Hopefully he will be automatically picked in India.
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Finn was the only bowler who bowled well in India during last ODI series. I think he will be in team for sure. he can take wickets of settled batsmen and I think he should play. Anyway, except Kevin , Finn is the only player who makes it worthwhile watching England for me.
 
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Finn is good but the only England bowler that has really impressed me recently is Chris tremlett. Where is he?

IMO - england need to stop trying to force broad as a superstar to the nation and realise that while he may fluke a few wickets is not the quality of bowler required for a top ranked team.

My seam attack if all are fit are:
Anderson
Tremlett
Finn

Until England realise they require an outstanding attack rather than an adequate one they won't last near the top of international cricket
 
He is slowly and gradually becoming the weak link for England across all formats.

has taken the backseat comfortably to Anderson and Broad in Tests.
 
He's only young. Ish. Been out of form for a while. He will improve.
 
Mamoon_ said:
He is slowly and gradually becoming the weak link for England across all formats.

has taken the backseat comfortably to Anderson and Broad in Tests.
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Well, he's still the NKOTB.

I have faith that he will get 400 test wickets at 25-28 if he stays fit. The New Willis!

(That means that he will be a swivel-eyed looney commo with half-mast trousers on Sky Sports by 2030 or so.)
 
Yeah he has time but has hit a bad patch at the wrong time in his career.
 
Its nice of you to be so obsessed with Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq, but may I ask who has called them young?

They are the right age for a Test batsman. Not too young and not too old. Have around 5-6 years comfortably.
 
Steve Finn 36 odi 55 Wickets Ave 28
Junaid Khan 32 Odi 52 wickets Ave 23

Junaid khan has already better Odi record than Hype Finn

and In test cricket Junaid will also take over Finn very soon
 
Steven Finn isn't having the greatest season, I thought he was a future legend when I saw him and that would be so cool as I go to the same school as he does but he's very overrated, one to add to the long list of players we have made to look good
 
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Steven Finn with 8-79 in the 2nd innings helping Middlesex to a crucial 36 run victory over Lancashire. Will he be on that plane to Australia after this performance?
 
An on-firm Finn would be a godsend against the Australians. Real pace and bounce like Bob Willis. But he seems to lose confidence quickly.
 
Robert said:
An on-firm Finn would be a godsend against the Australians. Real pace and bounce like Bob Willis. But he seems to lose confidence quickly.
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Literally my first choice bowler Down Under.
 
Robert said:
An on-firm Finn would be a godsend against the Australians. Real pace and bounce like Bob Willis. But he seems to lose confidence quickly.
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And he took 8-79 as you beat us yesterday.

My Ashes team:

1. Cook
2. Hameed
3. ?
4. Root
5. ? Possibly Hales
6. Stokes
7. Bairstow (wk)
8. Moeen
9. Broad
10. Anderson
11. Finn
 
Far too inconsistent and seems to go missing in "crunch" moments.
 
Have always liked Finn, and he's the perfect bowler for Aussie conditions. Tall, fast with good swing and seam. In my opinion he should be playing in place of Toby Roland Jones down under.
 
Junaids said:
And he took 8-79 as you beat us yesterday.

My Ashes team:

1. Cook
2. Hameed
3. ?
4. Root
5. ? Possibly Hales
6. Stokes
7. Bairstow (wk)
8. Moeen
9. Broad
10. Anderson
11. Finn
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I would push Stokes, Bairstow and Moeen a position up and slot Woakes at 8 as well, but only if he can get his pace back up to around 86-87 MPH again. Last I saw of him, he was struggling to get past 83.
 
aloo paratha said:
Have always liked Finn, and he's the perfect bowler for Aussie conditions. Tall, fast with good swing and seam. In my opinion he should be playing in place of Toby Roland Jones down under.
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looking possible now as TRJ has picked up a major injury
 
HASHAM2 said:
Steve Finn 36 odi 55 Wickets Ave 28
Junaid Khan 32 Odi 52 wickets Ave 23

Junaid khan has already better Odi record than Hype Finn

and In test cricket Junaid will also take over Finn very soon
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We have enough LO bowlers. We need a test match fast man.

Finn has proved he can do it, he averages four wickets per test, he gets top batters out. But he frustrates because he needs confidence when he should know he can tear up trees.
 
Junaids said:
And he took 8-79 as you beat us yesterday.

My Ashes team:

1. Cook
2. Hameed
3. ?
4. Root
5. ? Possibly Hales
6. Stokes
7. Bairstow (wk)
8. Moeen
9. Broad
10. Anderson
11. Finn
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Hameed has a busted finger. I would put Foakes behind the stick and Bairstow at #5. Stoneman can open but who to put at #3? Maybe Hales time.....

We're going to get flattened.
 
Robert said:
We have enough LO bowlers. We need a test match fast man.

Finn has proved he can do it, he averages four wickets per test, he gets top batters out. But he frustrates because he needs confidence when he should know he can tear up trees.
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Whats his speed. I dont think he can bowl 90mph plus in tests.
 
Gutted about Roland-Jones getting injured. A top player who has truly earned his place on the tour and was a probable starter at Brisbane as well. Perhaps this opens the door to the last chance saloon for Finn.

Agree with Robert's prediction of the upcoming flattening. I reckon 4-1 to Australia.
 
pakistani pride said:
Whats his speed. I dont think he can bowl 90mph plus in tests.
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Upper eighties when his timing is right with really nasty bounce, like a white Garner. But when it isn't right, the ball just sits up to be whacked.

Needs a good psychologist - that worked for Hadlee - he recovered from a nervous breakdown and became world class.
 
Junaids said:
And he took 8-79 as you beat us yesterday.

My Ashes team:

1. Cook
2. Hameed
3. ?
4. Root
5. ? Possibly Hales
6. Stokes
7. Bairstow (wk)
8. Moeen
9. Broad
10. Anderson
11. Finn
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Taking Hameed will most probably derail his career. I don't think he is mentally/technically strong enough to withstand a Australian summer. And Finn is made of glass. One session of Warner brutality might even end his career (I think Finn might even like that so that he can go back play county).
 
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