Taliban issues warning over civilians killed by Pakistan rockets

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Pakistan rockets and aerial raids on two different Afghan provinces resulted in civilian casualties, officials say.

Taliban authorities warned Pakistan on Saturday after five children and a woman were killed in Afghanistan in alleged rocket attacks by the Pakistani forces in a pre-dawn assault along the border.

“The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan condemns in the strongest possible terms the bombardment and attack that has taken place from the Pakistan side on the soil of Afghanistan,” government spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told reporters in an audio message.


“This is a cruelty and it is paving the way for enmity between Afghanistan and Pakistan … We are using all options to prevent repetitions (of such attacks) and calling for our sovereignty to be respected,” he said.

“The Pakistani side should know that if a war starts it will not be in the interest of any side. It will cause instability in the region.”

Pakistani military officials were not immediately available for comment.

Hundreds of civilians of Khost poured into the streets chanting anti-Pakistan slogans later on Saturday.


Border tensions between Pakistan and Afghanistan have risen since the Taliban seized power last year.

Islamabad claims militant groups are launching attacks on Pakistan from Afghan soil.

The Taliban deny harbouring Pakistani militants, and is infuriated by construction of a fence Pakistan is erecting along their 2,700-kilometre (1,600-mile) border, known as the Durand line.

The United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) said it was “deeply concerned” by civilian deaths caused by air strikes, and the mission was verifying the extent of casualties.


Kunar provincial director of information Najibullah Hassan Abdaal told AFP: “Five children and a woman were killed and a man wounded in Pakistani rocket attacks in Shelton district of Kunar.”

Ehsanullah, a resident of Shelton district who goes by one name as many Afghans do, said the assault was carried out by Pakistani military aircraft. He confirmed the death toll.

According to another Afghan government official, a similar pre-dawn assault was carried out in Afghanistan’s Khost province near the border.

“Pakistani helicopters bombarded four villages near the Durand line in Khost province,” he said on condition of anonymity.

“Only civilian houses were targeted and there were casualties,” he added, but did not offer more details.

TOLO News, Afghanistan’s leading private TV channel, showed footage of houses destroyed in the assault in Khost.

All the targeted people were innocent civilians who had nothing to do with the Taliban or the government,” Rasool Jan, a resident of Khost, told the channel.

“We don’t know who is our enemy and why we were targeted.”

The Afghan foreign ministry said it had summoned the Pakistani ambassador in Kabul to protest the attacks.

“Such military violations including in Khost and Kunar should be prevented as ill-wishers and groups with vested interests will exploit these incidents,” Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi told the Pakistani envoy on Saturday, according to a ministry statement.


Border tensions

On Thursday, at least seven Pakistani soldiers were killed in an ambush by an armed group near the Afghan border.

According to a military statement, a Pakistani military convoy in a former stronghold of the Pakistan Taliban, known by the acronym TTP, near the Afghan border was ambushed, triggering an intense shoot-out in which seven soldiers and four members of the armed group were killed.

The statement said the ambush took place in the Isham area of North Waziristan, a district in the volatile northwestern Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province.

“Pakistan Army is determined to eliminate the menace of terrorism and such sacrifices of our brave soldiers further strengthen our resolve,” the statement added.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility.

The incident comes as Pakistan’s military said on Thursday that 128 armed fighters have been killed in the region bordering Afghanistan since January.

The military acknowledged that nearly 100 soldiers have been killed in such attacks during the same period.

Paying tributes to the killed soldiers, Pakistan’s new Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif said Islamabad would “continue fighting terrorism”.

North Waziristan – once dubbed the “heartland of militancy” – is one of the seven former semi-autonomous tribal regions in Pakistan where the army has conducted a series of operations since 2014 to eliminate the Pakistan Taliban.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022...illed-in-armed-ambush-near-afghanistan-border
 
I have so many questions on this.

Is Taliban's warning to Pakistani authorities merely to mollify/assuage Afghan anger on Pakistani strikes - essentially saying that this statement was for Afghan domestic consumption - or is there more brewing down to their differences in treatment vis-a-vis TTP.

Also has it got anything to do with the change at the helm of affairs in Pakistan?
 
There are three options

Option 1,
Let the ttp come back, where Pakistan is forced to launch an attack on them. Because ttp likes to use local family member as shield, fighting a war with them is diificult, thus drone attacks have to be used. The cost of one drone attack is one dead ttp member and 10 dead Pakistanis.

The dead pakistanis could be reduced if civilians were shifted out from these areas and the ttp are droned out

Option 2,
Afghanistan takes care of the ttp as promised, because after riyad al fasad(is this the correct name?) alot of the ttp members ran back to afg. But the taliban afg is not locking them up. Alot of them were freed from afghanistan prisons and becoming a problem for us.

Option3,
If afghanistan is not gonna take care of ttp residing in their place, than pakistan will do that for them and for us.


Option 2 is ideal for both afg and pakistan. But if option 2 is not gonnna be considered, than in pakistans best interest, out of option 1 and option 3, option 3 is best.

To save our pakistani lives we would be forced to kill afghani lives, and that is because the afghan taliban is not considering option 2. I dont hate afghanis, and i feel for them, but at the end of the day, Pakistan has to protect its own.

Many people around this forum are afghan taliban sympethisers and boost about the afghan taliban for winning against US(not true). What they dont understand is that the Afghan taliban loves to shoot itself in the foot.

Afghan taliban's earlier destruction was not ibecause of it's laws but the way they gave al qaeda free passage and used them for their own geo strategic effectiveness. In the end that got them a war where the afghan taliban had to fled and leave the people at their mercy.

This time around, with no Al Qaeda and isis khorian being against them, they are now using TTP for their geo strategic advances.

They have finally gotten the govt, and no one is bothered to take it away from them. Why not concentrate on their own country and make sure not create problems for others. If they allow ttp to roam freely and launch attack against pakistan and than give free passage back to their hiding spots in afg, than it becomes obvious how Afg taliban is using ttp for their own strategic advantage.

At the end, Afghan taliban will suffer. They put themselves at the risk of being chased away out of their own borders for 10-15 years, only to come back again like cockroaches.

Everytime the afghan people have to suffer due to the dumb policies of the afghan taliban.

Anyways, good to see Pakistan army is taking action against ttp from front up. Hopefully no more genral Orakzai type sympethisers in our unit who caused more damage to the country in the long run than any good.
 
So someone please confirm that the reason why Pakistan sent rockets and attacked the two Afghan provinces is that according to them, 100 or more Pakistan soldiers died from afghan taliban attacks.
 
The Fata Qaumi Jirga (FQJ) has demanded that the Government of Pakistan and Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) announce an unconditional ceasefire during the holy month of Ramazan and Eidul Fitr, saying the truce should continue at least for 40 days.

A jirga titled “Fata Amn Ghawari Jirga” was organised by FQJ at the Peshawar Press Club.

The FQJ proposed to hold meetings in all tribal districts with a purpose to promote peace. The jirga said it wanted to convey a traditional message to the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan to extend “serious cooperation” in negotiations between the Pakistani government and TTP.

The FQJ maintained that it was ready to play its role to end the deadlock in talks between the Pakistani government and TTP.

The jirga further said that it was deeply saddened over the deaths which occurred as a result of violent incidents either in tribal districts or in Afghanistan.

It demanded that the Pakistan government and TTP announce an unconditional ceasefire during Ramazan and Eidul Fitr, saying the truce should extend for at least 40 days.

Earlier this week, the Foreign Office said elements of banned terrorist groups in the border region, including the TTP, continued to attack Pakistan’s border security posts, resulting into martyrdom of several Pakistani troops.

On April 14 as well, seven Pakistan Army soldiers were martyred in North Waziristan district by terrorists operating from Afghanistan, the FO added.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2353563/jirga-demands-40-day-truce-between-govt-ttp
 
Any civilian casualties is disgraceful and should be investigated.

However this is the product of months of Afghan Taliban inaction against TTP miscreants within their borders. It should be made clear there'll be no diplomatic recognition of Afghan Taliban government without a crackdown on TTP elements in Afghanistan.
 
Any civilian casualties is disgraceful and should be investigated.

However this is the product of months of Afghan Taliban inaction against TTP miscreants within their borders. It should be made clear there'll be no diplomatic recognition of Afghan Taliban government without a crackdown on TTP elements in Afghanistan.

TTP and Afghan Taliban are brothers. When Taliban came to power, they release hundreds of TTP men.
 
TTP and Afghan Taliban are brothers. When Taliban came to power, they release hundreds of TTP men.

Exactly, and we have many Pakistanis who view Afghan Taliban as noble Islamic warriors.

Any friend of the killers of 60,000 Pakistanis is no noble Islamic warrior in my book.
 
The Fata Qaumi Jirga (FQJ) has demanded that the Government of Pakistan and Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) announce an unconditional ceasefire during the holy month of Ramazan and Eidul Fitr, saying the truce should continue at least for 40 days.

A jirga titled “Fata Amn Ghawari Jirga” was organised by FQJ at the Peshawar Press Club.

The FQJ proposed to hold meetings in all tribal districts with a purpose to promote peace. The jirga said it wanted to convey a traditional message to the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan to extend “serious cooperation” in negotiations between the Pakistani government and TTP.

The FQJ maintained that it was ready to play its role to end the deadlock in talks between the Pakistani government and TTP.

The jirga further said that it was deeply saddened over the deaths which occurred as a result of violent incidents either in tribal districts or in Afghanistan.

It demanded that the Pakistan government and TTP announce an unconditional ceasefire during Ramazan and Eidul Fitr, saying the truce should extend for at least 40 days.

Earlier this week, the Foreign Office said elements of banned terrorist groups in the border region, including the TTP, continued to attack Pakistan’s border security posts, resulting into martyrdom of several Pakistani troops.

On April 14 as well, seven Pakistan Army soldiers were martyred in North Waziristan district by terrorists operating from Afghanistan, the FO added.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2353563/jirga-demands-40-day-truce-between-govt-ttp

These jirgas are irrerelevent now. Ever since they got merged into pakistan, these tribal areas are no more lawless places.

Alot of blood is on the hands of these tribal elders who provides protection to state enemies.
 
TTP and Afghan Taliban are brothers. When Taliban came to power, they release hundreds of TTP men.

lol.

Taliban released all political prisoners. They are not brothers, the Afghan Taliban has been wiping them out for years. TTP is very small now, it has a few mercenery leaders who use young men as their foot soldiers, paying them money and brainwashing them. TTP is funded and supported by CIA and India tries to drag along.

Pakistan Army owns the Afghan Taliban. The ISI chief didnt go to Kabul after the American defeat to sort their government out because he was bored.
 
Get ready for balkanisation

It's imran who is holding back any full pashtun rebellion .

Imran khan holds the federation together

If these crooks get their gnashers on pakistan again I said it before you could have a Syria yemen like catastrophe unfold over the upcoming years .

If nato usa couldn't pacify these Afghans for over 20 yrs why do people think a usa base and pakistan army as the cannon fodder will achieve anything .
 
Get ready for balkanisation

It's imran who is holding back any full pashtun rebellion .

Imran khan holds the federation together

If these crooks get their gnashers on pakistan again I said it before you could have a Syria yemen like catastrophe unfold over the upcoming years .

If nato usa couldn't pacify these Afghans for over 20 yrs why do people think a usa base and pakistan army as the cannon fodder will achieve anything .

The difference is now the Taliban have something to lose. They are no longer a militant organization, they are the government in Afghanistan. If they want to keep Kabul they need to control the TTP not Pakistan. Otherwise Pakistan can make their life difficult, not to mention bomb their territory.
 
Afghan taliban's earlier destruction was not ibecause of it's laws but the way they gave al qaeda free passage and used them for their own geo strategic effectiveness. In the end that got them a war where the afghan taliban had to fled and leave the people at their mercy.

This time around, with no Al Qaeda and isis khorian being against them, they are now using TTP for their geo strategic advances.

They have finally gotten the govt, and no one is bothered to take it away from them. Why not concentrate on their own country and make sure not create problems for others. If they allow ttp to roam freely and launch attack against pakistan and than give free passage back to their hiding spots in afg, than it becomes obvious how Afg taliban is using ttp for their own strategic advantage.

At the end, Afghan taliban will suffer. They put themselves at the risk of being chased away out of their own borders for 10-15 years, only to come back again like cockroaches.

Everytime the afghan people have to suffer due to the dumb policies of the afghan taliban.

Anyways, good to see Pakistan army is taking action against ttp from front up. Hopefully no more genral Orakzai type sympethisers in our unit who caused more damage to the country in the long run than any good.

This is true, and I thought they would have learned their lesson after being out of power for 20 years.

They should be told in clear terms they will be held responsible for any attack against Pakistan from Afghanistan. Taliban wanted to be the govt then they need to take responsibility for their territory.
 
This is true, and I thought they would have learned their lesson after being out of power for 20 years.

They should be told in clear terms they will be held responsible for any attack against Pakistan from Afghanistan. Taliban wanted to be the govt then they need to take responsibility for their territory.

For some reason they fail to learn from their mistakes. Afghan taliban likes to pretend that they indulge in other countries politics, when they clearly do through the likes of al qaeda and ttp.

I think in their minds is that they want to take peshawar and upto attock in the long run. Seeing how successful the ttp was in swat a decade ago might give them some reason for this
 
For some reason they fail to learn from their mistakes. Afghan taliban likes to pretend that they indulge in other countries politics, when they clearly do through the likes of al qaeda and ttp.

I think in their minds is that they want to take peshawar and upto attock in the long run. Seeing how successful the ttp was in swat a decade ago might give them some reason for this

Not just them, since 1947 every Afghan government has wanted the same. Does not matter if they are liberal or mullah. And for anyone who feel sorry for what Afghans are going through, they should remember that Afghanistan attacked Pakistan first.

Also I can understand it if Pashtuns want to be united, however majority of Afghanistan is not Pashtun. Historically Afghan referred only to Pashtun people, which is why the "A" in Pakistan was for Afghania. However the modern day state of Afghanistan is multi ethnic. So if its ok for Tajiks and Uzbeks to be divided then its not the end of the world for Pashtuns to be part of two countries.

If the Taliban does not change their behavior Pakistan need to ally with the non Pashtun groups of Afghanistan.
 
So Imran Khan's govt is removed and suddenly Pakistan is launching rockets and aerial raids on Afghanistan? That should make USA and India very happy.
 
The Afghan Taliban-led interim government has started taking steps to shift terrorist groups away from Pakistan-Afghan border regions to other parts after a series of recent cross-border attacks drew strong reaction from Islamabad.

Officials familiar with the development told The Express Tribune on Sunday that Pakistan after recent spate of cross-border terrorist attacks conveyed to the Afghan Taliban in clear terms to take action against terrorist groups or face the consequences.

In response to Pakistan’s strong message, the Taliban have decided to persuade banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and its affiliates to move from border regions to other areas of Afghanistan.

"Some of the groups have already been moved out of our border regions," said a senior Pakistani official, who deals with the issue. He requested not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the issue.

Pakistan, the official said, though doesn't agree with the approach but accept the Taliban’s decision to at least to stop immediate cross-border terrorist attacks.

"Our demand is clear that these groups must be eliminated or dealt with in a manner that they never pose threat to us again," the official added.

There has been a surge in cross border terrorist attacks in recent weeks with scores of Pakistani soldiers embracing martyrdom.

On Saturday, three Pakistani soldiers lost their lives in North Waziristan district when terrorists from across the border launched an attack. On April 14, seven Pakistani soldiers were martyred in a similar terrorist attack.

After that attack, Pakistan reportedly carried out air strikes in Kunar and Khost provinces of Afghanistan to eliminate the terrorist hideouts.

The foreign office also issued a strongest statement yet condemning the cross-border terrorist attacks.

The strongly-worded statement said terrorists were using the Afghan soil with impunity and urged the Afghan Taliban to take stern section against them.

When the Taliban returned to power, Pakistan hoped that the new dispensation would deal with these terror groups. Despite promises, officials said the Taliban haven't yet taken decisive action to fulfil their commitments.

"It only makes their (Taliban) case difficult as far as the recognition is concerned," the official said without mincing any words.

Pakistan in recent months has been increasingly frustrated by the Taliban government's reluctance to eliminate TTP and other groups.

Part of the reason that the Taliban are not ready to take action these groups is because they fought alongside them against the US-led foreign forces and also share the same ideology.

Officials, however, warned that such an approach would only make matters worse for the Taliban government, which needs international recognition and support to revive the economy.

Express Tribune
 
Afghanistan's acting defence minister said on Sunday that the Taliban administration would not tolerate "invasions" from its neighours after protesting against airstrikes it says were conducted by neighbouring Pakistan.

The comments come after the Taliban administration blamed Pakistan for airstrikes that officials say killed dozens in Kunar and Khost provinces.

Pakistan, which has not confirmed any involvement in airstrikes inside Afghanistan's borders, said the two countries are "brotherly countries".

"We are facing problems and challenges from both the world and our neighbors, the clear example is invasion by them in our territory in Kunar," said Mullah Mohammad Yaqoob, acting Afghan defence minister, at a ceremony in Kabul commemorating the anniversary of the death of his father, Taliban founder Mullah Mohammad Omar.

"We can't tolerate the invasion. We have tolerated that attack. We tolerated that because of national interests, next time we might not tolerate it," he said.

Pakistan's foreign office spokesperson said when asked for comment on Yaqoob's comments that Pakistan hoped for longterm engagement with Afghanistan to secure peace.

"Pakistan and Afghanistan are brotherly countries. The governments and people of both countries regard terrorism as a serious threat and have suffered from this scourge for long time ... therefore, it is important that our two countries engage in a meaningful manner through relevant institutional channels to cooperate in countering cross border terrorism and taking actions against terrorist groups on their soil," the spokesperson said.

The Taliban administration's foreign ministry last week called in Pakistan's ambassador to protest against the strikes. Local officials said the strikes by Pakistan military helicopters killed 36 people.

The United Nation's children's agency head in Afghanistan said that 20 children were killed in airstrikes in Khost and Kunar on April 16.

Since the Taliban took over Afghanistan in August, there have been numerous standoffs along the 2,600-km (1,615-mile) border with Pakistan - drawn by British colonial rulers and disputed by Kabul.

NDTV
 
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