The 3rd ODI between New Zealand (104/1) and India (219) abandoned due to rain - NZ win series 1-0

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'Scattered showers' are predicted in Christchurch on Thursday. The way the ongoing India's tour of New Zealand has panned out, at the moment, the weather seems to be the top concern for the two teams - both of whom have secured their places in next year's 50-over world cup. India, at best, have an opportunity to level the three-match series when they face the hosts at the Hagley Oval on last November day.

Having three of the five matches in the tour already impacted by rain, Shubman Gill expressed his frustration over the prevailing weather conditions in as many words after the last game was abandoned. Even as the matches, which are taking place only a few weeks after the T20 World Cup, hold little significance for the two teams, it had opened up opportunities for several players, like Gill, from the near second-string Indian side to force their way up in the team management's priority order.

New Zealand, who secured a win in the first match and split points in the second, would have lesser reasons to fuss about, especially since many of their 50-over regulars were a part of the semifinal campaign at the world cup in Australia. They could do with a bit of rest, but it is unlikely to come too easy. They might have to go through multiple rounds of in-and-out movement from the field to ensure that their undefeated run in home ODIs continues and they seal another series win.

When: Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 2:30 PM local(7:00 AM IST)

Where: Hagley Oval, Christchurch

What to expect: Scattered showers and ample breaks between play.

Team News:

New Zealand: With barely any play in the second ODI, there are no reasons for tinker with the XI. At best, they might consider the option of adding another pace option in the XI.

Likely XI: Finn Allen, Devon Conway, Kane Williamson, Daryl Mitchell, Tom Latham (wk), Glenn Phillips, Mitchell Santner, Michael Bracewell, Matt Henry, Tim Southee, Lockie Ferguson

India: If India are willing to compromise on their sixth bowling option, Sanju Samson could find a place ahead of Deepak Hooda. Or one of the other frontline batters - Shreyas Iyer or Suryakumar Yadav - might have to be rested to give Samson a chance in the XI

Likely XI: Shikhar Dhawan, Shubman Gill, Suryakumar Yadav, Shreyas Iyer, Rishabh Pant (wk), Deepak Hooda, Washington Sundar, Deepak Chahar, Umran Malik, Arshdeep Singh, Yuzvendra Chahal

What they said:

"The body feels pretty good at the moment, so as long as you can still handle juggling all three and still being able to perform at the level you need to at this level. I love playing all three formats, so hopefully can do that for a wee while longer" - Tim Southee, on playing all three formats

"I benefit bowling with him because the batters can get deceived as the pace drops from 155kph to 135kph. We're enjoying bowling with each other and off the field as well." - Arshdeep Singh, on his experience of bowling alongside Umran Malik

Squads:

New Zealand Squad: Finn Allen, Devon Conway, Kane Williamson(c), Daryl Mitchell, Tom Latham(w), Glenn Phillips, Mitchell Santner, Michael Bracewell, Matt Henry, Tim Southee, Lockie Ferguson, James Neesham, Adam Milne

India Squad: Shikhar Dhawan(c), Shubman Gill, Suryakumar Yadav, Shreyas Iyer, Rishabh Pant(w), Deepak Hooda, Washington Sundar, Deepak Chahar, Umran Malik, Arshdeep Singh, Yuzvendra Chahal, Sanju Samson, Kuldeep Yadav, Shardul Thakur
 
New Zealand XI: D Conway, F Allen, K Williamson (c), D Mitchell, Tom Latham (wk), G Phillips, M Santner, A Milne, T Southee, M Henry, L Ferguson.

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IND 96/3 (21.2) CRR: 4.5
New Zealand opt to bowl
 
I didn’t know there was another meaningless odi today.
Pant fails yet again. The man is wasting the career of kishan and Samson. How many more chances does pant get?
 
Pant seems lacking vs the short ball. Got out to a short one few games ago too.
 
Poor team yet again. Not worth following.
 
Indian cricket has indeed gone to dogs. So much talent to choose from but such pathetic players on display.

Ganguly was such a disaster for Indian cricket as BCCI chairman.
 
Indian cricket has indeed gone to dogs. So much talent to choose from but such pathetic players on display.

Ganguly was such a disaster for Indian cricket as BCCI chairman.

I agree, I won't blame it on Ganguly though. Not sure if he has anything to do with team selection.

But yeah, if they are telling us that given the amount of talent, Deepak Hooda and Rishabh Pant (after so many failures) are part of the playing XI then they've got to be kidding me. And it is not just this series where some players are rested, these two even played in the T20 WC.

SKY although deserves a place in the. ODI side based on his T20 form, he cannot be a certainity if he keeps failing, Dhawan, I don't know, I respect him for all that he has done for India, but may be it's time to move on. There are many youngsters in the waiting whi are literally getting wasted. I don't mind if they are given a chance and they fail, but we would never know until they are given a chance.
 
Iif india wants to win this wc this should be squad

1. Rohit
2. A wicketkeeper batsman must here (1.KL Rahul 2. kishan 3. Samson)
3. kohli
4. shreyash
5. X factor Surya

6.1. Venkatesh Iyyer,2. U19 Star Tilak verma, Raj baba,Rajvardhan Hengrkar, Deepak hooda(worst)

7.pandya
8.Jadeja /Sundar
9. Siraj
10. bumrah
11. Umran , Arshdeep,Deepak chahar, mohsin khan
 
I agree, I won't blame it on Ganguly though. Not sure if he has anything to do with team selection.

But yeah, if they are telling us that given the amount of talent, Deepak Hooda and Rishabh Pant (after so many failures) are part of the playing XI then they've got to be kidding me. And it is not just this series where some players are rested, these two even played in the T20 WC.

SKY although deserves a place in the. ODI side based on his T20 form, he cannot be a certainity if he keeps failing, Dhawan, I don't know, I respect him for all that he has done for India, but may be it's time to move on. There are many youngsters in the waiting whi are literally getting wasted. I don't mind if they are given a chance and they fail, but we would never know until they are given a chance.
Ganguly is to be blamed because he could have changed a lot but things regressed under him as he only chose to remain side kick of Jay Shah.

Ok, team selection was not under his remit but making structural changes in India was. Such outdated thinking of playing cricket can only exist in Indian cricket despite having all the resources to fall back on.

Selection of our coaching staff was BCCI's calling, no? What did he do?

Did he ever try to call the bluff of prima donnas like Kohli, Rohit, Bumrah etc not to pick and choose the games/series they play? He did nothing of that sort.
 
10 dot balls on the trot in final 10 overs.

Indian cricket is indeed overflowing with talent it seems.
 
Washington is proper batsman and bowler now india should stop wasting time in search of a batsman who can bowl a bit
 
Inexperienced approach by India. All gifted their wickets. 300 plus wicket even with movement.
 
These guys are not experienced enough to suss out the conditions to identify what is a good total. Batting first is going to tough for this side.
 
India picked a wrong side. 3 spinners on juicy, bouncy wicket. This is one of those wickets you preserve wicket and go big. Even then it is tough against a 5 seamer attack. They quickly realized used santner just for two overs.
 
Pant( in LOIs) and Surya (in ODIs) have been dismal with bat.

Iyer is a better batsman than both. Sundar is also better than Hooda.

I don't see any point of sticking with Hooda. His first skill itself is poor.
 
IND 219 (47.3)
NZ 39/0 (8.5) CRR: 4.42 REQ: 4.4
New Zealand need 181 runs
 
Just saw Umran bhai's speeds on cricinfo commentary 138 kph and 140 khp. Maybe just warming up?
 
Indian bowlers seem to have developed a habit of giving away 10 wickets victory to opposition on will...! Till lately they were doing better than batsmen!
 
Chahar is trundling at 125kph. Why is Siraj not playing?
 
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Umran is a bowling machine set at 140-145kph. Absolutely zero lateral movement.
 
Indian cricket has indeed gone to dogs. So much talent to choose from but such pathetic players on display.

Ganguly was such a disaster for Indian cricket as BCCI chairman.

What talent? Who are these mythical talented players? Bowlers without any discernible skill? Batters who statpad? India are nowhere near the better white ball sides when it comes to skill in any department.
 
Looks like Dhoni was using his bowling (limited) resources very intelligently in LOIs. He hardly used to fail (at least used to take game close unlike these embarrassing defeats!)

Indian management seemed to be messing up with selecting a stable captain. Changing so many captains is hurting the team. Captaincy is a very crucial parameter in cricket (so is coach). Indians are struggling with poor captaincy & coaching. We have seen more than 5 captains across different formats in last few months (Kohli, Bumrah, Rohit, Pant, Pandya, etc, etc.) And now Dhawan (who is not even certain about his position/future in the team!) This is not how you build a team...

And enough of this player rotation and resting, and taking every series as experimentation! It looks like they are playing cricket like a routine daily job instead of passion to win...

Rohit should have captained the team much much before, when Kohli was failing as captain (in LOIs), but they waited for Kohli to completely wear out (egos, stardom, etc), by that time Rohit is also finished (probably as a player too!) Indian team in a complete mess now. It is not like we don't have good players, but we don't have a proper leader to bind them.

I am sure an intelligent Dhoni (in his prime) would have achieved even more with current bunch of players! But having said that even Dhoni stuck to captaincy and player spot for quite long! Its unfortunate even after the advent & growth of IPL, Indians seem to have not learnt the need for professionalism in sports!
 
What talent? Who are these mythical talented players? Bowlers without any discernible skill? Batters who statpad? India are nowhere near the better white ball sides when it comes to skill in any department.
If you say so.
 
Its raining really heavily atm, with 2 overs still to be bowled for DLS to kick in.

May be, rain gods will have mercy on our pitiable team!
 
Jay shah and bjp's influence spreading nepotism ( Whomever has better relations and works acc to what Bjp will getting selected ,Look how captaincy stripped from Vkohli, Casteism and incompetent leaders ,Politics are responsible for deterioration in performance not IPL
 
India's current attack is associate level. Just play the Test attack in ODIs too. Bumrah, Shami, Ishant, Siraj, Umesh.

Why even try these trundlers. Umran Malik is good for nothing too, really short and that extra pace just sits up to be hit.
 
ODIs:

Sanju > Pant
Shreyas > SKY

So it took you just 1 series to take a u-turn? You were going after me when I was asking for these guys to get more opportunities.

This is what you said not too long ago:

What is the point of trying everyone when ultimately in World Cup, we will go with only 15 names? Also, in ODI World Cup, Rohit and Kohli will be playing anyways, Dhawan is also there and there will be Gill, Pant, Suryakumar Yadav, Iyer and KL Rahul also.

Where is the place for Kishan, Ruturaj, Hooda etc to play? In T20s, we can try them because the news for filling youngsters is popping out in that format.

Samson wasn't even in your 18 and now suddenly after 1 series he is better than Pant? This is why you should first understand what other posters here are saying before attacking them. :inti
 
Even if India bring back Rohit and Kohli (no longer the same forces), they're an average ODI side.

SF at best for a home WC.

WC next year will probably be between England and Aus with Pakistan outsiders.
 
So it took you just 1 series to take a u-turn? You were going after me when I was asking for these guys to get more opportunities.

This is what you said not too long ago:



Samson wasn't even in your 18 and now suddenly after 1 series he is better than Pant? This is why you should first understand what other posters here are saying before attacking them. :inti

That was based on the selection done by Indian team and not a 18 selected by me.

Also, I just put my opinion there, what is taking a U-turn about in this case? When did I attacked you? I am sorry but your post is not worthy enough to be responded.
 
What a terrible series this was, Rain was forecast pinpoint for the match days. NZ deserved to win the series anyways though.
 
India once again showing us how boring and mediocre their brand is..yawn series..
 
Why do Indians keep complaining about selection and Dravid when we saw them asking for players like Gill, Iyer, Surya, Pant, Umran... You got them and still you are playing average cricket.

Perhaps just confess that you aren't good enough anymore? On good pitches they seem clueless like this 3rd ODI and how they performed in Perth against SA, hence they love playing so much on dead wickets of India to win and the reason why they schedule majority of their games only in India.

Team doesn't seem good enough anymore to perform on a consistent basis. Dhoni days are long gone and since then they have just been an average side and looking at their new crop doesn't look like it ll change much.
 
Iyer is the best ODI batsman in the world on current form. He was set for another brilliant innings but fell prey to a great catch.

3. Kohli
4. Iyer
5. SKY
6. Pandya
7. Jadeja

That is as good as it gets. Comfortably the best middle/lower-order in the world.
 
Why do Indians keep complaining about selection and Dravid when we saw them asking for players like Gill, Iyer, Surya, Pant, Umran... You got them and still you are playing average cricket.

Perhaps just confess that you aren't good enough anymore? On good pitches they seem clueless like this 3rd ODI and how they performed in Perth against SA, hence they love playing so much on dead wickets of India to win and the reason why they schedule majority of their games only in India.

Team doesn't seem good enough anymore to perform on a consistent basis. Dhoni days are long gone and since then they have just been an average side and looking at their new crop doesn't look like it ll change much.

Must have been real difficult to make so many statements and not get one right.

How about you share percentage of matches played away for all teams and how they performed? Wasn't India on ODI win streak and perhaps the best one at Tests too?
 
Iyer is the best ODI batsman in the world on current form. He was set for another brilliant innings but fell prey to a great catch.

3. Kohli
4. Iyer
5. SKY
6. Pandya
7. Jadeja

That is as good as it gets. Comfortably the best middle/lower-order in the world.

Who will keep?
 
Poor India saved by the umpires again.
So unfair to stop the game with 18 overs bowled.

They can save the result but can't hide how bad Indian cricket team played.
Completely outolayed by NZ.
 
Poor India saved by the umpires again.
So unfair to stop the game with 18 overs bowled.

They can save the result but can't hide how bad Indian cricket team played.
Completely outolayed by NZ.

Worse than losing a Test series against Australia at home? Keeping in mind that India won their last 2 Test series in Australia?
 
Poor India saved by the umpires again.
So unfair to stop the game with 18 overs bowled.

They can save the result but can't hide how bad Indian cricket team played.
Completely outolayed by NZ.

We would have taken all the wickets !
 
Who will keep?

Pant to open with Rohit. He is the true heir to Gilchrist & he has proved that already in Tests. He would be a brutal opener in LOIs & fully maximize the PP overs.

Dhawan needs to go. He is too old, not impactful enough and plays one format only. Rahul should be the backup opener.

Rohit
Pant
Kohli
Iyer
SKY
Pandya
Jadeja
Kuldeep/Chahal
Bumrah
Arshdeep
Umran

That is comfortably the best ODI team in the world. The tail might be a little long because you have three number 11s, but the overall team is tremendous.
 
Haha at true heir to Gilchrist. Mamoon ji you seem hurt from this series as your beloved team has been exposed again. Terminologies like tremendous team, best team, shining team will help you soothe the pain so it's understandable :)

India saved again from rain or another embarrassing defeat was on the card with NZ on 104/1 chasing subpar score of 219 put up by subpar team.
 
Pant to open with Rohit. He is the true heir to Gilchrist & he has proved that already in Tests. He would be a brutal opener in LOIs & fully maximize the PP overs.

Dhawan needs to go. He is too old, not impactful enough and plays one format only. Rahul should be the backup opener.

Rohit
Pant
Kohli
Iyer
SKY
Pandya
Jadeja
Kuldeep/Chahal
Bumrah
Arshdeep
Umran

That is comfortably the best ODI team in the world. The tail might be a little long because you have three number 11s, but the overall team is tremendous.

Pant is not in the scheme of things for opener in ODIs. It is between Gill and Dhawan. Most likely Dhawan inspite of middling performances.

At 5, most likely it will be KL Rahul as keeper batsman.

Siraj over Arshdeep anyday.
 
wow amazing by INDIA, they took one wicket amazing :) rain clearly saved India here. I think Indian cricket is going downhill, and will be going downhill for years to come, you need quality bowling to be a world class team, which India does not simply have.
 
Iyer is the best ODI batsman in the world on current form. He was set for another brilliant innings but fell prey to a great catch.

3. Kohli
4. Iyer
5. SKY
6. Pandya
7. Jadeja

That is as good as it gets. Comfortably the best middle/lower-order in the world.

:facepalm
 
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