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Why are you so anti-Lyon? Are you judging him based on that one series?
He almost has 500 Test wickets.
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The Ashes: England v Australia | 2nd Test | Lord's | Jun 28-Jul 02 | Day 2
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Why are you so anti-Lyon? Are you judging him based on that one series?
He almost has 500 Test wickets.
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I mean they changed tactic after that by letting Green unleash short balls
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Harry Brook bats like Mohammad Siraj. Seriously looks like a tailender with ugly swips
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A lot of the current English batters bat like this.
Ugly techniques and mindless slogging.
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Shahid Afridi would easily walk into this side as a sensible anchor lol
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Its not up to Root, he has to play according to direction of his captain and team requirements. That being said, he plays funky shots at times but still is the most conservative of the English batsmen.
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You have a deep fine leg, you have a long leg. you have a deep square leg. Any miscue is going to land in their hands. Even if you connect well if mostly goes for 1 run. These guys are no Rohit sharma to hit sixes at will against short ball. So why taking it on at all
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Australia has so many runs to play with 173 runs.
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I expect Australia to bundle England out for around 400.
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Labu is usually such a gun fielder. SHelled an relatively easy one there.
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Smith was hardly in touch. He put on an exhibition on how to make ugly but effective Test runs.
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Stokes struggles big time against Head
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Seems like bowlers are finally tired after short ball barrage. One end Travis head is bowling. Other end drop in pace for Cummins.
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Stokes is batting like Pujara
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Stokes tuk tuked. Bouncer barrage automatically reduced.
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Sad to see Root like this.
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Not new in Ashes. None better than Johnson series. Still my favorite Ashes in history.
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Starc and Hazelwood getting smashed like some street bowlers.
Cummins and Lyon have been comparatively okay.
Cummins and Lyon have been comparatively okay.
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Their bowlers are not tailor made for English conditions. Cummins is good though. He can adapt better.
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Smith bowls one or two half tracker
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Stokes is tentative even against Smith's bowling
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Root missed a century on this pitch.
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133/3 in that session from England, not even that bad in the end, despite their poor spell of shot selection.
Bowlers took 80/5 and batters scored 278/4, so not a perfect day, but still fell in England’s favour, and overall they are back in the game.
Another big day tomorrow!
Bowlers took 80/5 and batters scored 278/4, so not a perfect day, but still fell in England’s favour, and overall they are back in the game.
Another big day tomorrow!
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It is bad when you have an opportunity to tire the Australian attack for 1 more full day. Infact they can just bat once here. Australia is a bowler short. They will wilt eventually. Tired bowlers will struggle in the next Test as well. These are all good oold test match strategies which England is missing out on.
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That would be a reasonable position for England tbh. Get close to Australia’s score and the pressure is back on them to set “BazBall” a target.
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England could still bat for a good while yet, depends what happens in the morning. Root’s dismissal was very disappointing though for such a class player.
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Hazelwood is. But these conditions itself are not traditional English conditions. These are flatter tracks with mostly assistance for seamers vs new bowl or the morning hour.
England came close to wasting a superb fightback with some brainless batting late on the second day of the second Ashes Test against Australia at Lord's.
The home side had done much to reverse the damage of a poor opening day, bowling Australia out for 416 and reaching 188-1 in response.
But Ollie Pope, Ben Duckett and Joe Root all gifted their wickets to Australia's telegraphed short-ball plan, Duckett falling for 98 and missing out on a maiden Ashes hundred.
The three wickets fell for 34 runs before Harry Brook, who had several near misses in his 45, and captain Ben Stokes, with a calm 17 from 57 balls, took England to 278-4, 138 behind.
The carelessness of England's batting was compounded by the fact key Australia spinner Nathan Lyon was off the field with a calf injury that will be assessed overnight.
Steve Smith earlier completed his 32nd Test hundred before being dismissed for 110 by Josh Tongue.
That was part of an Australia collapse of five wickets for 65 runs on Thursday morning, with Tongue and Ollie Robinson finishing with three wickets apiece.
This was so close to being a magnificent day for England - for more than two sessions they were every bit as good as they were lethargic on Wednesday.
As the pitch quickened up, the home bowlers found more zip. The catching was sharp and the batting, led by the increasingly dependable Duckett, was grinding Australia down.
Indeed, as the touring bowlers battled in vain to extract any movement from the ball, England's only error came from Zak Crawley, who ran down the pitch and was stumped down the leg side off Lyon for a handsome 48.
Then came eight overs of madness that threatened to derail any chance England have of regaining the Ashes. Their success under Stokes has been built on an attacking style, but the reckless way they allowed Australia back in defied cricketing logic.
What made the collapse worse were the warnings England failed to heed. Duckett had been discomforted by the short ball and Root caught off a no-ball, yet England refused to temper their aggression.
At the end of a breathless, action-packed day the Test is deliciously poised, though that does little to shake off the feeling of what might have been.
Duckett has been a revelation since returning to Test cricket in December - his average of 53.58 is the fifth-highest of all men to have done the job in at least 10 matches for England.
He added 91 in less than 18 overs with Crawley and another 97 in just over 20 with Pope, who was able to bat at number three despite the shoulder injury he suffered in the field on day one.
Duckett cut, clipped and played drives with style, but when Australia went short with as many as six fielders on the boundary, he and Pope took leave of their senses.
Pope, standing baseball style, miscued Cameron Green on 42 and Root only survived gloving behind in the same over because Green overstepped.
Duckett, with a hundred at his mercy, top-edged Josh Hazlewood and, most incredibly for a player of his class, Root flapped at Mitchell Starc. All three wickets were to catches behind square on the leg side.
Even then Brook continued to take the bouncers on, somehow avoiding being bowled when he was outfoxed by a Green slower ball and was dropped at square leg by Marnus Labuschagne when he hooked Pat Cummins.
Stokes, so often England's biggest aggressor, played the situation sensibly, and the skipper has the chance to guide his team to a lead on Friday.
From 339-5 overnight, Australia had the chance to dominate the match, only to surrender the initiative then have it presented back.
Smith's hundred seemed inevitable from midway through day one. Unbeaten on 85 at the beginning of the day, he drove James Anderson for four to reach his 12th Ashes hundred - only the great Don Bradman has more.
By that point, Alex Carey had been lbw on review to Stuart Broad and Starc slashed Anderson behind. Tongue, though, was the pick of the bowlers and enticed Smith to a drive to fifth slip to dismiss him for the second time this summer - he had earlier done so for Worcestershire playing against Smith's Sussex.
When Robinson mopped up the tail, it completed an overall slump of seven wickets for 100 runs and Australia's malaise continued in the field.
Like the first Test, fielders were scattered to the boundary, Starc and Hazlewood went at more than six an over, the injury to Lyon could still prove to be a pivotal moment in the series.
The short-ball plan was hatched in desperation and England's compliance in their own downfall beggared belief.
The home side had done much to reverse the damage of a poor opening day, bowling Australia out for 416 and reaching 188-1 in response.
But Ollie Pope, Ben Duckett and Joe Root all gifted their wickets to Australia's telegraphed short-ball plan, Duckett falling for 98 and missing out on a maiden Ashes hundred.
The three wickets fell for 34 runs before Harry Brook, who had several near misses in his 45, and captain Ben Stokes, with a calm 17 from 57 balls, took England to 278-4, 138 behind.
The carelessness of England's batting was compounded by the fact key Australia spinner Nathan Lyon was off the field with a calf injury that will be assessed overnight.
Steve Smith earlier completed his 32nd Test hundred before being dismissed for 110 by Josh Tongue.
That was part of an Australia collapse of five wickets for 65 runs on Thursday morning, with Tongue and Ollie Robinson finishing with three wickets apiece.
This was so close to being a magnificent day for England - for more than two sessions they were every bit as good as they were lethargic on Wednesday.
As the pitch quickened up, the home bowlers found more zip. The catching was sharp and the batting, led by the increasingly dependable Duckett, was grinding Australia down.
Indeed, as the touring bowlers battled in vain to extract any movement from the ball, England's only error came from Zak Crawley, who ran down the pitch and was stumped down the leg side off Lyon for a handsome 48.
Then came eight overs of madness that threatened to derail any chance England have of regaining the Ashes. Their success under Stokes has been built on an attacking style, but the reckless way they allowed Australia back in defied cricketing logic.
What made the collapse worse were the warnings England failed to heed. Duckett had been discomforted by the short ball and Root caught off a no-ball, yet England refused to temper their aggression.
At the end of a breathless, action-packed day the Test is deliciously poised, though that does little to shake off the feeling of what might have been.
Duckett has been a revelation since returning to Test cricket in December - his average of 53.58 is the fifth-highest of all men to have done the job in at least 10 matches for England.
He added 91 in less than 18 overs with Crawley and another 97 in just over 20 with Pope, who was able to bat at number three despite the shoulder injury he suffered in the field on day one.
Duckett cut, clipped and played drives with style, but when Australia went short with as many as six fielders on the boundary, he and Pope took leave of their senses.
Pope, standing baseball style, miscued Cameron Green on 42 and Root only survived gloving behind in the same over because Green overstepped.
Duckett, with a hundred at his mercy, top-edged Josh Hazlewood and, most incredibly for a player of his class, Root flapped at Mitchell Starc. All three wickets were to catches behind square on the leg side.
Even then Brook continued to take the bouncers on, somehow avoiding being bowled when he was outfoxed by a Green slower ball and was dropped at square leg by Marnus Labuschagne when he hooked Pat Cummins.
Stokes, so often England's biggest aggressor, played the situation sensibly, and the skipper has the chance to guide his team to a lead on Friday.
From 339-5 overnight, Australia had the chance to dominate the match, only to surrender the initiative then have it presented back.
Smith's hundred seemed inevitable from midway through day one. Unbeaten on 85 at the beginning of the day, he drove James Anderson for four to reach his 12th Ashes hundred - only the great Don Bradman has more.
By that point, Alex Carey had been lbw on review to Stuart Broad and Starc slashed Anderson behind. Tongue, though, was the pick of the bowlers and enticed Smith to a drive to fifth slip to dismiss him for the second time this summer - he had earlier done so for Worcestershire playing against Smith's Sussex.
When Robinson mopped up the tail, it completed an overall slump of seven wickets for 100 runs and Australia's malaise continued in the field.
Like the first Test, fielders were scattered to the boundary, Starc and Hazlewood went at more than six an over, the injury to Lyon could still prove to be a pivotal moment in the series.
The short-ball plan was hatched in desperation and England's compliance in their own downfall beggared belief.
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As a neutral, I would rather have Smith in my team.
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Steve Smith is pure class, the greatest Test batsman of his generation.
Sometimes you are watching a guy and you just know he's not getting out. You get that feeling the strongest when Smith is on fire. He's walking across his stumps playing french cricket, he's wafting at balls on 7th stump but you know he's in absolute control. I was absolutely shocked when he finally nicked off.
Sometimes you are watching a guy and you just know he's not getting out. You get that feeling the strongest when Smith is on fire. He's walking across his stumps playing french cricket, he's wafting at balls on 7th stump but you know he's in absolute control. I was absolutely shocked when he finally nicked off.
That doesn't make Kohli any less a great player.
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