Also found KP’s at no 4. Since he's in the poll list here it is as well.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013-14/content/story/690377.html
I realised that later on. He derived Lara's stats on his own. Thought he was doing it from a site.
For "day light" difference I would expect the concerned player to have an average (and other measurable parameters) that exceeds his nearest rivals by at least 10%. Bradman was indeed in a league of his own - he exceeded his peers by 40%!! In Sachin's and Lara's case the difference isn't even 5% - more correctly, their stats are not even the best in business. So "league of their own" thing is a pure opinion not backed up by evidence.
Sachin usually depended on other top batsmen to play a good knock and often failed if the top order failed in difficult conditions.
What the heck ? lol Can someone explain to me avging 40 when the openers out cheaply is a failure ? .. Yeah you will get props from the usual sour grapes such as Mobashir and CO, gratz on that
But by around 2000 it was clear that he was not above his illustrious peers when it came to performing under pressure or difficult conditions.
I do partly agree with this, after Tennis Elbow he wasnt the same however prior to Tennis Elbow, during the previous 2 Australian series he avgd 47 vs Mcgrath , Lee and Warne (Openers shooting ducks during the series) in Aus and 50 vs Mcgrath, Warne and Gillespie in India.. During the tennis elbow series which I believe in 2004 he avgd 17 vs Mcgrath causing his overall stats vs Mcgrath to drop but he can be forgiven as he was not fit and he sucked for a few more series after that and was not the same as he was during the 90s.
Being in the top 5 batsman of your generation is not a failure.
Point of entry less than 75 would have been ideal I think (ie within the first 20 or so overs) but since that data is not available for some less than 50 will have to do. Also couldn’t find Lara’s any where so not on the list.
So Ponting is the standout there. Unlike the rest he has actually done much better when he has come in early. Not much of a surprise really given he has built his reputation on his counter-attacking ability. Plus quite easily the best bat against pace on the list. On another note the low number of innings for Kallis is a bit of a surprise. In contrast Sanga has only come in to bat with over 50 on the board 40 odd times.
136 is every bit as good as that Lara's best innings which was the 150, few things you have to take into account during that match such as Moin Khan's bumped catch of Ganguly this sort of incident didnt happen in Lara's innings. SRTs stat speaks for itself he has batted well all over the globe while his sides predominately had terrible bowling attacks, even the Lara's 150 innings consisted of Ambrose and Walsh. Lara and SRT are both equal and legendary and nothing can convince me that one is better than the other.. There was a reason majority of the players including legendary bowlers like Mcgrath, Wasim, Donald etc all rated SRT ahead of Lara pre tennis elbow.......
Lara and SRT are the macdaddys of batsmenship, however dont put a batsmen like Ponting in their league lol
It was a great innings, but it came down to the most important thing, Lara finished it himslef while Tendulkar was out with 32 runs remaining with 3 wickets.
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Point of entry less than 75 would have been ideal I think (ie within the first 20 or so overs) but since that data is not available for some less than 50 will have to do. Also couldn’t find Lara’s any where so not on the list.
So Ponting is the standout there. Unlike the rest he has actually done much better when he has come in early. Not much of a surprise really given he has built his reputation on his counter-attacking ability. Plus quite easily the best bat against pace on the list. On another note the low number of innings for Kallis is a bit of a surprise. In contrast Sanga has only come in to bat with over 50 on the board 40 odd times.
[MENTION=50394]IndianWillow[/MENTION] is usually pretty good at stats, and is very thorough.. but his aversion to Sachin makes him lose track of his own good quality of posts.
Interesting.
I expected Dravid's to be in 50s.
Ponting's numbers are amazing. I have seen him playing great innings against new ball but I couldn't be decisive in my opinion because of him being covered by Langer, Slater and Hayden. Ponting's achievements sometimes go under-appreciated as compared to other great batsmen because of him playing in a team full of match-winners.
Just found Sachin's number's breakdown in different countries
These are upto 2009. He scored 5 overseas centuries after than and only one of them while coming at scoreboard showing less than 50, his Cape Town century. So I guess, averages wouldn't have changed much by the end of his career, except in case of South Africa.
) Also the same Dravid that has been horrible in SA and in Aus (unless Mcwarne did not play ) ? When Touring SA & AUS and when 'great' bowlers played, wannabes like Dravid and Sehwag dissappeared, SRT was the odd saving grace that stood out occasionally, he was a one man team.. You seriously cannot compare the legendary side Ponting played in with any of the sides SRT played with, this is weak argument, you are starting to lose your way here buddy....Shielded by Sehwag from 2002 onwards, The same Sehwag that avg 20 odd in SA ?
