Best team when healthy?!
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Nice one...
Did you not watch football in 2009? 14-0. The team last year was the most decimated by injuries in the league.
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Best team when healthy?!
)
Nice one...
Did you not watch football in 2009? 14-0. The team last year was the most decimated by injuries in the league.
We'll be back.
Not 14-0 but 14-2..
And that 'best team' lost to the saints in SB
16-1 overall. Only team to lose only 1 game that year. Best team doesn't always win.
We'll be back.
You do realize that a year of NFL happened after "that" year right?
Your argument is akin to me calling the pats league best based on 2007!
The difference is that the Colts have basically the same roster as they did in 2009 (prob even better on paper, TBH).
(I'm not saying we'll go 14-0 again or anything like that, I just think, if the key players stay healthy, this team can be the #1 seed)
Err not really. Mathis and Freeny are not the same guys. The defense is basically not even half as effective without those too. Manning is coming off a neck surgery and will be missing training camp. Go check the last time that happened - the Colts had a horror start to the season.
I honestly think the Pats are in better shape than the Colts. Mankins and Light are coming back. We have the SAME impact players with new additions, not to mention the defense getting another year of experience.
PS: Its the NFL so Im not even thinking about making statements like "we are the favs for the #1 seed".
Mathis and Freeney aren't the same guys? Whaaa??? Since when? They're both every bit as good as they were in 2009.
Fair point on Manning, though. That will be a concern. He didn't do well to start 2008, the last time he had a surgery like this.
I want Nnamdi on Houston for two reasons:
1. Keeps him out of the Jests who Pats face x2 a year!!!
2. Maybe that will help knock the Colts out of the playoffs!!!
Err not really. Mathis and Freeny are not the same guys. The defense is basically not even half as effective without those too. Manning is coming off a neck surgery and will be missing training camp. Go check the last time that happened - the Colts had a horror start to the season.
I honestly think the Pats are in better shape than the Colts. Mankins and Light are coming back. We have the SAME impact players with new additions, not to mention the defense getting another year of experience.
PS: Its the NFL so Im not even thinking about making statements like "we are the favs for the #1 seed".
Eagles need Defensive End opposite Cole, experience in LB and Safety positions also. We also need a 3rd running back. Eagles seem to be just waiting and not being very active. We might lose some of the good players out there. This is annoying.
STrong possibility Ray Edwards could become an Eagle.. I have high hoes for the 2nd round pick Jarret........We need another DT though Bunkley just doesnt get the job done...As for an extra running back Reggie Bush could be a possibility..
As long as the Colts have Manning, they will always have the edge over the Pats. Manning >>>> Brady
Don't worry about Nnamdi, QuarterBack. I heard the Patsies are in negotiation with the top camera in this year's free agent class. You guys will be fine.
Damn it, Haynesworth traded to NE!!!!!!!!!!
Damn it, Haynesworth traded to NE!!!!!!!!!!
A 4-3 with Willfork, Warren, Stroud and Haynesworth! I'd like to see the Jets (or anyone else) try to ground and pound now. IF Al can get his act together (like BB has managed to in the past) Sanchez and other QBs are gonna look like this
2010's unanimous MVP's 3 rings say hi !
I personally consider Manning to be a superior QB, but as a team, Brady on the Pats make them simply better.
Ray Edwards would be nice. With R Bush likely going to Dolphins, it just seems like we are doing our business slower than most teams. Hopefully they got some sort of plan and are not actually hurting themselves by going this slowly.
And that too for a 5th rounder in 2013! To top it off, he doesn't even make much money anymore. All his guaranteed money was up front and should be off the books by now. He's making about 5 million in 2011. What a steal.
The Skins are as lost as ever. Look at the damn deal they gave to Santana and they have no QB!!
Ray Edwards would be nice. With R Bush likely going to Dolphins, it just seems like we are doing our business slower than most teams. Hopefully they got some sort of plan and are not actually hurting themselves by going this slowly.
I don't see the Pats going to the 4-3. They've spent the last 2 years getting linebackers that fit the 3-4 scheme. I see Haynesworth as a DE.
STrong possibility Ray Edwards could become an Eagle.. I have high hoes for the 2nd round pick Jarret........We need another DT though Bunkley just doesnt get the job done...As for an extra running back Reggie Bush could be a possibility..
Some early morning moves:
Dolphins agree to a 2 year contract with Bush, allowing the trade wit Saints to be completed.
Eagles have agreed to terms with Jason Babin, ending the speculation of Ray Edwards joining the Birds.
I disagree. Look at what Cassel was able to do when Brady went down. Manning makes average players on his team look like pro bowlers. He's the better QB and he is worth more to the Colts than Brady is to the Pats.
I dont disagree with that. I personally do consider Manning to be superior, just as a QB. However, as a team Brady and Pats >>> Manning and Colts. The Cassel example you cited just proves this further.
Remember, a huge part of Cassel's success in NE was Bill Bellichick. And he's still the Head Coach of the Pats and still plans with and for Brady. That is why the Pats are better than the Colts.
A 4-3 with Willfork, Warren, Stroud and Haynesworth! I'd like to see the Jets (or anyone else) try to ground and pound now. IF Al can get his act together (like BB has managed to in the past) Sanchez and other QBs are gonna look like this:
If my life depended on it I'd go with any team that had Peyton as the QB. Even if it were a high school team.
Good line, but I thought Pats played a 3-4 ....
Jets are more than $10 million UNDER salary cap, according to two NFL capologists. Might make the Jets the favorite to land Nnamdi Asomugha.
Agree with Inswinger here. Manning is slightly better QB than Brady. He might have a bad playoff record than Brady but thats only because he has a bad habit of choking, its not really him getting pressured by good defenses, its just him making bad decisions.
Brady on the other hand can be pressured by good defenses. We all know what Terrell Suggs has done to him every time they play each other ...but on his day, Brady can be the best in the league (remember the Steelers-Pats game last year?)
The only thing I hate about Brady is him crying to the refs after everytime he is sacked...or about to be sacked. That just ticks me off--especially when the Pats play the Ravens.
Agree with Inswinger here. Manning is slightly better QB than Brady. He might have a bad playoff record than Brady but thats only because he has a bad habit of choking, its not really him getting pressured by good defenses, its just him making bad decisions.
Brady on the other hand can be pressured by good defenses. We all know what Terrell Suggs has done to him every time they play each other ...but on his day, Brady can be the best in the league (remember the Steelers-Pats game last year?)
The only thing I hate about Brady is him crying to the refs after everytime he is sacked...or about to be sacked. That just ticks me off--especially when the Pats play the Ravens.
Giants might have to let Brandon Jacobs go if they can restructure his contract
Not true RR. See Post #667. Pats run multiple fronts and do not have one absolute package.
Pats are becoming a rehab facility for the NFL's bad boys!
Patriots made a big mistake signing Ochocinco and Haynesworth.) This will be fun
Looks like Nnamdi will be a Jet..This should put them over Pats now. But I still think the Jets are overrated like crazy.
Vince Young should get some playing time in Philly because Vick is an injury prone. Great move.
Yeah, because Bill has never turned around talented but trouble players before...
Yeah, we Pats fans have heard that line before. Until and unless the Jets actually have something to show for the season (at least a division title) they will be the Not Yets!
For him. For Philly, not so sure...
Have you already forgotten the playoffs last year.
Bill might be a great coach...but this is OCHOCINCO we're talking about here! This guy will be a cancer to your team..and Haynesworth! Your team is in big trouble. You just dont know this yet
Its a great move for Philly. For him, going to Cards would have been much better...
Now Philly has a great back up in Young if Vick happens to get injured (hopefully not).
I am talking about now. Forget the past. Jets have better team than Pats RIGHT NOW..atleast on paper.You mean the Jets' own private little superbowl?! No, we got beat by a very good Jets team. But fact still remains they have NOTHING to show for their last two years. FWIW, Pats were and are the reining AFC East Division Champs.
You have already forgotten last year? OR his on and off problems with the coach in the past? His on and off problems with Palmer? His constant need to stay in the spot light doing crazy things? his idiotic self promotions? His tweeting problems before games? and what not...Err, when has Chad been a team cancer?! He is mouthy but when has he actually been bad for his team?! I cant remember any such instance, can you?!
Moss might have done great in the few years he was with Bill and Brady..but how did that turn out to be in the end?And L-O-L that you think the Pats are in trouble bcos they added Al and Chad. Like i previously stated, Bill has a history of taking in talented players, getting the best out of them and throwing them out. See Moss, Dillon, etc... Seriously dude, do you actually follow other teams or just read what ppl say?!
And also the same guy who was cought for cheating against the Jets in 07, the Rams in SB, and god knows how many times before.And lmao at we are in trouble but we dont know comment. You really know the Pats locker room better than Bill Bellichick! You know the guy who actually coached them to 3 SB titles. )
Great backup?! ) Vince Young is "great" but Chad is "team cancer"?
I am talking about now. Forget the past. Jets have better team than Pats RIGHT NOW..atleast on paper.
You have already forgotten last year? OR his on and off problems with the coach in the past? His on and off problems with Palmer? His constant need to stay in the spot light doing crazy things? his idiotic self promotions? His tweeting problems before games? and what not...
Moss might have done great in the few years he was with Bill and Brady..but how did that turn out to be in the end?
Yes I do follow other teams..mainly in the AFC.
And also the same guy who was cought for cheating against the Jets in 07, the Rams in SB, and god knows how many times before.
I never said he was 'great'. But as a backup, you cant get have anyone better than him..thus the 'great backup' comment.
They were targeting Farve ffs
Anyways. Dont get so sensitve over me making a little fun of The Jets and Pats. Afterall, I am a die hard Ravens fan. So what do you expect?
I still dont think the Jets will get any better with Nnamdi...slightly better thats all. Chad and Al will cause problems, probably not next season, but its bound to happen when things get tough for them and the blame game starts.
The media can hype these 2 teams all they want, and the fans can brag about the new signings and all, but the funny thing is--they wont even win more than 1 or 2 playoff game next year.
Samuel has to go now.. I hope the Ravens make a trade for him..
So far, they've landed arguably the best backup QB in the league with VY, Dominique Rodgers Cromartie, Nnamdi Asoumgha, Jason Babin, and Cullen Jenkins and a 2nd round pick.
So, if Babin and Jenkins play to half of what they were last year, and Cole plays up to expectations along with Bunkley, the best DL in the league hands down. And with the defensive backfield the way it is (Aso, Asante, DRC) and some young guns like Nate Allen back there, there pass defense could be the best in the league hands down. Not to mention they still have Vick and arguably the youngest, fastest WR corps in the league.
If it all fits under the cap they are definitely the SuperBowl favorites.
Right now, they are like the New York Jets with no hype...which is a good thing.