The PCB should learn a thing or two from BCCI!

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PCB just called back some of their players from such an important tournament like County for a below average t20 tournament being played in Pakistan. They could have gained so much in experience, skill and what not but PCB decided to be pcb whereas India just released their frontline spinners and main players in Asian conditions to play County even when they had a series going on!

Clearly, there is a reason behind India's success.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Ashwin, Jadega, Ishant and Pujara will be playing County.

 

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Players who are not needed to play international matches are set free to play country/ rest/ practice whatever. It is common sense.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Players who are not needed to play international matches are set free to play country/ rest/ practice whatever. It is common sense.

they are being allowed to play County because they will gain in experience. Are you trying to tell me that Ashwin and Jadega would not be needed for ODIs in Sri Lanka? They are your first picks! Finally India has some good bowlers but few bench options yet they are risking the ODI series just so their bowlers can gain the experience of playing County.

 

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Ashwin and Jadeja have not been selected for ODI and T20 matches in Sri Lanka, so they are not needed for these matches. So, in that respect they are not needed for these intenational matches in sri Lanka.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Ashwin and Jadeja have not been selected for ODI and T20 matches in Sri Lanka, so they are not needed for these matches. So, in that respect they are not needed for these intenational matches in sri Lanka.

I'm sorry but I think you have a problem understanding what I said. The reason they have not been selected for the ODI series against Sri Lanka is because of the County.

 

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I have no problem accepting that I have a problem understanding what you said if that makes you feel better.

 

[Kashmiri_Pak_fan]

I'm sorry but I think you have a problem understanding what I said. The reason they have not been selected for the ODI series against Sri Lanka is because of the County.

where is the proof they are being rested to play county cricket?

 

[R0H1T]

I have no problem accepting that I have a problem understanding what you said if that makes you feel better.

Need more gin & tonic to understand this, anyway Ashwin & jadeja are on their last leg so far as ODI are concerned, heck one of them (I bet Ashwin's going out) may not even feature in 2019 WC especially with Kuldeep & Axar doing a fair job.

 

[UN talkz]

Its clearly visible that India is preferring kuldeep over ashwin in LOI's... which will ultimately benefit them
Agree with [MENTION=83349]R0H1T[/MENTION] Ashwin may not be in India's WC19 plans

 

[cricketerB94]

PCB has done perfectly fine job. You can not treat 1 or 2 players fairly and others unfairly. They had to call back all the players otherwise it would be unjust to the players coming back from CPL.
The other thing is, this is not just a T20 tournament. PCB is taking it as preparation for World XI series and any player who have to be in contention for that series needs to play this tournament. Even Peter Hanscomb left county for the preparation of BD tour. Some people are going overboard with that decision.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

Need more gin & tonic to understand this, anyway Ashwin & jadeja are on their last leg so far as ODI are concerned, heck one of them (I bet Ashwin's going out) may not even feature in 2019 WC especially with Kuldeep & Axar doing a fair job.

Jadeja is on last legs in ODI's? ) The guy can get into the side for his fielding alone and with the ball whether or not he picks wickets he runs through his overs before opposition can realise what's happened.

Kuldeep and Axar's fair job needs to go beyond a couple of series' to even bring the possibility of pushing these 2 out. And out of those 2 only Axar probably has the best shot because of his batting and big hitting ability. Kuldeep while a wicket-taking option isn't really required in short format where pitches are probably going to be roads.

 

[R0H1T]

Jadeja is on last legs in ODI's? ) The guy can get into the side for his fielding alone and with the ball whether or not he picks wickets he runs through his overs before opposition can realise what's happened.

Kuldeep and Axar's fair job needs to go beyond a couple of series' to even bring the possibility of pushing these 2 out. And out of those 2 only Axar probably has the best shot because of his batting and big hitting ability. Kuldeep while a wicket-taking option isn't really required in short format where pitches are probably going to be roads.

Jadeja has always been a liability as far as his batting is concerned, way too overrated, name one match winning knock against Aus or SA even in a JAMODI? If the pitches in Eng are similar to the final CT game then no we don;t need him, a Krunal Pandya would be a much better fit in that case, kuldeep can be the sole spinner on dead tracks.

If you leave out CT 2013 name one multilateral tournament where Jadeja has done a UV with either the bat or ball in his hand?

 

[Cricfan4eva]

Jadeja has always been a liability as far as his batting is concerned, way too overrated, name one match winning knock against Aus or SA even in a JAMODI? If the pitches in Eng are similar to the final CT game then no we don;t need him, a Krunal Pandya would be a much better fit in that case, kuldeep can be the sole spinner on dead tracks.

If you leave out CT 2013 name one multilateral tournament where Jadeja has done a UV with either the bat or ball in his hand?

Krunal Pandya based on what? His IPL big hitting? LOL

Jadeja has been ordinary these last few months but his role in the side has never been similar to that of a UV or Kohli - i.e. a match winner who can win the match on his own. Not all players in the side are supposed to be or can be of that sort.

Jadeja is a great utility player who is clearly improved big time with the ball. His batting I agree has left a lot to be desired, IMO his style of batting either requires for him to have time to set his eye in or maybe he has to model his game like Hardik to come and go bonkers.

However IMO Jadeja isn't even remotely close to being booted out from the side, none of Axar or Kuldeep have done enough to suggest that mainly due chances but I don't think they will get plenty. They will have to impress in SL series, to keep Jadeja out of Aus ODI series as well.

Also Kuldeep as sole spinner is a huge risk. ODI has changed, par scores have changed. If India had a bowling attack like SA's or Aus' one could argue that spin option can be experimented with.

In our bowling, despite the improvement of pacers they still are the weak link. Thats 3 out of your 5 bowling options that you can't rely on. So India will always have to pick their best spinners going around who can control the bleeding if wickets aren't coming either and frankly Kuldeep's bowling doesn't allow that. He will either run riot and pick 5-fer or be eaten alive by good batting sides. Unless he turns out to be very special, he can prove me wrong then.

 

[R0H1T]

Krunal Pandya based on what? His IPL big hitting? LOL

Jadeja has been ordinary these last few months but his role in the side has never been similar to that of a UV or Kohli - i.e. a match winner who can win the match on his own. Not all players in the side are supposed to be or can be of that sort.

Jadeja is a great utility player who is clearly improved big time with the ball. His batting I agree has left a lot to be desired, IMO his style of batting either requires for him to have time to set his eye in or maybe he has to model his game like Hardik to come and go bonkers.

However IMO Jadeja isn't even remotely close to being booted out from the side, none of Axar or Kuldeep have done enough to suggest that mainly due chances but I don't think they will get plenty. They will have to impress in SL series, to keep Jadeja out of Aus ODI series as well.

Also Kuldeep as sole spinner is a huge risk. ODI has changed, par scores have changed. If India had a bowling attack like SA's or Aus' one could argue that spin option can be experimented with.

In our bowling, despite the improvement of pacers they still are the weak link. Thats 3 out of your 5 bowling options that you can't rely on. So India will always have to pick their best spinners going around who can control the bleeding if wickets aren't coming either and frankly Kuldeep's bowling doesn't allow that. He will either run riot and pick 5-fer or be eaten alive by good batting sides. Unless he turns out to be very special, he can prove me wrong then.

Right so on dead tracks we pick him as a glorified outfielder? If bowling is his key discipline then he should be able to do more on batting paradises, lest we forget 2010 WT20 against Aus of 2015 SF against the same opponents.

As far as I;m concerned Jadeja is a safe bet on most tracks but when the batters go after him there isn;t a plan B he can come up with, that isn;t good enough for your premier ODI spinner.

Wrong India have always done well on the back of their seamers, be it the 1983 WC, 2011 final, 2015 WC et al. IF we;d pick Shami & yadav for the CT final then things might have gone more in our favor. We did pick the overrated Bumrah though, also cracked under pressure in WT20 SF against WI.

 

[htariq25]

Better of having a board like ECB as a role model than BCCI

 

[CanadianG00se]

they are being allowed to play County because they will gain in experience. Are you trying to tell me that Ashwin and Jadega would not be needed for ODIs in Sri Lanka? They are your first picks! Finally India has some good bowlers but few bench options yet they are risking the ODI series just so their bowlers can gain the experience of playing County.

TBH, if recent interview(s) by Indian selectors is anything to go by then Ashwin and perhaps Jadeja may not be a part of India's world cup campaign in England. After Champions trophy final loss, selectors are under lot of pressure to select youngsters and phase out the under performing oldies.

I have a feeling Indian management may have discussed this with Ashwin that its best for him to focus on his Test career, and allow young guns to lead the ODI attack (chahal, K Yadav, K Pandya). Even in recent interview, MSK Prasad indicated that Dhoni would need to perform for in order to keep his place( and rightly so).

As far as them not selected for SL series, well tbh even India's second XI would comfortably defeat SL(yes i know they won the game in champions trophy, but it was a fluke). Im really excited to see the youngsters will finally given chance and finally building team for world cup.