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Hasan123 said:
He is 22 years old and you people except him to score every game. You have to be patient with these players.

Indian management doesn't always make good calls but if they are sticking with Pant its for a good reason. I think he will be a good player for India anyway but I would rather trust the Indian management than Pakistan supporters.

And calling a 22 year old one of the worst players you have seen is not a very intelligent comment to make. Not every player develops the same way. Some develop after more experience.
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Lol I even said it on this post.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
To those who haven't watched the game...Pant actually OUTWITTED Lyon big time.

Wouldn't slog if fielders were spread out.

Wouldn't slog the outside off deliveries.

Very very sensible.

Had a bit of luck going his way (you always need that).

Towards the end, had a massive brainfade but boy...what a knock it was.

DAMN.
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Defn, can't believe he controlled himself, showed so much maturity
 
Rishab can never make it big in international cricket. He can't score big without getting dropped couple of times and it's not going to happen always.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
To those who haven't watched the game...Pant actually OUTWITTED Lyon big time.

Wouldn't slog if fielders were spread out.

Wouldn't slog the outside off deliveries.

Very very sensible.

Had a bit of luck going his way (you always need that).

Towards the end, had a massive brainfade but boy...what a knock it was.

DAMN.
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Defn, can't believe he controlled himself, showed so much maturity
 
Pant is a brave and street-smart cricketer. The innings he played today, very few batsmen from Pakistan have played such a remarkable innings in their whole Test careers. A top player!
 
It is not an ATG knock.

It is one of the GOAT knocks. A test series win in Australia with Smith, Cummins, Hazelwood, Marnus, Lyon, Warner and Starc playing.

Rishabh Pant is here to stay :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
It is not an ATG knock.


It is one of the GOAT knocks. A test series win in Australia with Smith, Cummins, Hazelwood, Marnus, Lyon, Warner and Starc playing.

Rishabh Pant is here to stay :inti
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For a very short period of time. He doesn't have a chance less innings in him. He is going to run out of luck soon.
 
Hasan123 said:
What a player man. If you didn't rate this guy, you have no clue about talent.

As I have said many times , other than Mamoon I will rarely trust a Pakistani when it comes to judging an Indian player.
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Same here. It really amazing that Mamoon is hardly ever wrong in his assessment of Indian players.
 
Wnaq said:
For a very short period of time. He doesn't have a chance less innings in him. He is going to run out of luck soon.
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You should create a thread on this so that we can celebrate the next humiliation when he plays a chance less inning :yk

Btw, Ben Stokes Headingley wasn't chamceless either.
 
Shafi said:
Mamoon is mostly correct but nobody knows future. He mentioned Pakistan cricket is finished. Its partly correct but no body knows we may rise in 30-40 years. Nobody thought Australia/WI will fall one day. Nobody stays in power forever.
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It’s a pretty safe policy to assume every Indian, Aussie, or English cricketer will succeed (especially Indian batsmen) and assume Pakistani youngsters will fail.

Without ever seeing the actual player, you will be right 80% of the time. It’s a very cowardly way of coming across as smart.
 
What a player!

And what a phainta to his naysayers. Just adding to a barrage of phaintas they've been getting this tour... :inti

Long may it continue :yk
 
A true matchwinner - touch of Gilchrist's aggression & Dhoni's cool nerves while going for a chase

This guy will rock big time. Glen McGrath already said he is good enough to play as a specialist batsman. I totally agree with McGrath !
 
Wnaq said:
Rishab can never make it big in international cricket. He can't score big without getting dropped couple of times and it's not going to happen always.
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Lol he didnt get dropped today and that stump missing was because the ball turned and bounced a mile. No keeper could have got that
 
Wnaq said:
For a very short period of time. He doesn't have a chance less innings in him. He is going to run out of luck soon.
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Most runs by Indian wicketkeeper in Australia:

Rishabh Pant - 624 in 12 inns at avg 62.4

Syed Kirmani - 471 runs in 17 inns at avg 29.43

MS Dhoni - 311 runs in 18 inns at avg 19.43

He has already obliterated the record of all our wicket keepers and had a better test career than all of them
 
Not picking him for the home series vs South Africa in 2019 is one of the dumbest decisions India took over the past 5-6 years.

Saha should have never played a Test over him in any conditions after his tons in England and Australia in 2018.

One full home season is all he needs to brush up his keeping.
 
Mamoon said:
Not picking him for the home series vs South Africa in 2019 is one of the dumbest decisions India took over the past 5-6 years.

Saha should have never played a Test over him in any conditions after his tons in England and Australia in 2018.

One full home season is all he needs to brush up his keeping.
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Saha was preferred for his keeping. :inti
 
Pant should have been Man of the Series. He was instrumental for India winning the series by playing crucial knocks on all 3 test matches.
 
Mamoon said:
Which was the wrong call. Saha is not half the player Pant is, and a talent like Pant can match his keeping with experience.

His keeping will develop when he plays home Tests.
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Yes and it's not like Pant is a hopeless keeper. His keeping is improving steadily. Took some nice ones in this test for example.
 
Let it be known that I was the one who founded the Pantaloon fan club for our rotund, naughty, little master. :saslam
 
He has his follies, bad areas that needs improvement.

Nonetheless he gives his all. In Aus both occassions/series he has played well against short pitch and pace, spin. Need to show this in other SENA nations where there is moving balls / India (has a tag that he cannot keep to spin). But so far repaid BCCI faith in him.
 
Pant will have his successes and failures. But his successes will be more in Tests. He may become the 1st Indian wicket keeper with a 40 plus test avg through out his career.

In ODIs i doubt he will avg 40 plus.
 
arunpsm said:
He has his follies, bad areas that needs improvement.

Nonetheless he gives his all. In Aus both occassions/series he has played well against short pitch and pace, spin. Need to show this in other SENA nations where there is moving balls / India (has a tag that he cannot keep to spin). But so far repaid BCCI faith in him.
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Well, he has a 4th innings 100 in England, in his very first tour there
 
Pant is a superstar and here to stay! He's still not a finished product but has under his belt a solid match winning 4th inning knock, which would give him a different level confidence level. Infact the way he is going, there's a high chance that he would become a full time batsman at some stage.
 
Hasan123 said:
What a player man. If you didn't rate this guy, you have no clue about talent.

As I have said many times , other than Mamoon I will rarely trust a Pakistani when it comes to judging an Indian player.
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i already said he will win games singlehandly
 
He should play all three formats.

Just imagine an ODI top 7 like this:-

1. Rohit
2. Gill
3. Kohli(c)
4. Rahul
5. Pant(wkt)
6. Pandya
7. Jadeja
 
cricketjoshila said:
Pant will have his successes and failures. But his successes will be more in Tests. He may become the 1st Indian wicket keeper with a 40 plus test avg through out his career.

In ODIs i doubt he will avg 40 plus.
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In ODIs we must use Kishan. The lad has come in leaps over the last year and is rearing to go. Let Rishabh take care of test matches.
 
Wnaq said:
Rishab can never make it big in international cricket. He can't score big without getting dropped couple of times and it's not going to happen always.
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How many times was he dropped in his tons in Eng and Aus?

Anyway aggressive players will always give chances
 
Ab Fan said:
He is India's Ben Stokes. He should play as specialist batsman at no.5.
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As a specialist bat he'll be under pressure to be consistent.. i think he'll perform better as wk bat than specialist bat.. though he need to improve his keeping.. one of the reason we win this series is their keeper also equally bad behind the wicket this series..
 
Wnaq said:
Rishab can never make it big in international cricket. He can't score big without getting dropped couple of times and it's not going to happen always.
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Most of the great innings (most of the hundreds too) had one or two drops.. and how many times Labu was dropped in this series?
 
Smbhayi said:
As a specialist bat he'll be under pressure to be consistent.. i think he'll perform better as wk bat than specialist bat.. though he need to improve his keeping.. one of the reason we win this series is their keeper also equally bad behind the wicket this series..
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After the twin knocks that he has played in last 10 days, I think he can afford to play as specialist bat. The pressure would have been there if he hadn't played knocks of that callibre. But I think he will continue as keeper bat because there is no extra place for keeper.
 
Romali_rotti said:
To be fair to the Pseudo Secular, he was just frustrated with all the drops behind the stumps Pant had..
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Pant dropped 3 this series.Paine 7

Pant didn't drop a single one off seamers

He's no Saha but this is the age of WK bats
 
Don't know if anyone made this comment earlier too but those 2 innings from Rishab pant will make any captain playing against India to think twice before declaring or setting a target for India.
 
A lot has been said and written about India's 23-year-old Rishabh Pant ever since he failed to make the most of his regular chances post MS Dhoni's sabbatical after the 2019 World Cup. As he was touted to be Dhoni's successor across formats, the left-hander slowly and steadily lost the plot and was removed from the limited-overs side, following KL Rahul's growth behind the stumps and fitness issues.

While Pant has remained a part of the Test side, with centuries in England and Australia, his career-defining innings still eluded him when he came out in the middle during India's 328-run chase in the fourth and final Test versus Australia at The Gabba, Brisbane on Tuesday (January 19).

Pant, who is used as a keeper-batsman more often during overseas assignments, made a strong case for himself for all formats, and in any conditions, as he displayed his talent fully courtesy his 83 not out. Thus, it led India to their second straight Test series win on Australian soil (2-1) with a thrilling 3-wicket win in the final Test.

Pant came out to bat, after a strong foundation provided by Shubman Gill (91), with the score 167-3 and remained unbeaten on 83, with 9 fours and 1 six. He timed his chase to perfection and remained undeterred despite Cheteshwar Pujara's fall (56).

In the recent edition of the Star Sports show Cricket Connected, VVS Laxman, thus, lavished praise on Pant and stated, "We all knew he had the calibre to win matches, he had all strokes in the book and at the same time he had the ability to hit boundaries and sixes at will of good deliveries. But what he showed at Gabba was just exemplary batting under pressure."

He further opined, "Rishabh Pant's knock at Gabba can become a career-defining innings for him. He was given a promotion and would have been sent with a message to go and play the big shots and to along with the asking run rate. But he went in and batted with maturity, the hurry was not at all seen.

"The way Nathan Lyon was bowling outside the off-stump and forcing him to play a false shot but he played with patience and whenever he got a chance, he took advantage of that."

Laxman concluded by saying, "He played high percentage shots and the good thing is that we generally talk that a young player should win the match and not only make a match, and he did that."

After the series, Pant once again made it clear that he doesn't want to be the next MS Dhoni, but is willing to make an identity of his own in the near future. The left-hander returned as the third-highest run-getter in the Border-Gavaskar Trophy 2020-21 and Ajinkya Rahane-led India's most successful batsman with 274 runs at 68.50 with 2 fifties.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...blitz-can-be-termed-as-career-defining/710736
 
He has been pretty humble till now after that knock, hopefully we pick him up for English series to improve his keeping against spin, his impact in batting helps us a lot but almost seems Indian management will make him modern day Mohinder amarnath
 
Happy that most of the fickle fans in India have forgotten that weak slogger samson whom they wanted in the team instead.
 
AMSS said:
Happy that most of the fickle fans in India have forgotten that weak slogger samson whom they wanted in the team instead.
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You'll just have to wait for the next edition of IPL, when Samson comes up with his one special knock of the year and everyone goes gaga over this special 25 year old youngster.
 
AMSS said:
Happy that most of the fickle fans in India have forgotten that weak slogger samson whom they wanted in the team instead.
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Depends on which team these fans wanted Samson in. If it's LOI then that wicketkeeper slot is wide open. If it's test then Pant has to improve his wicketkeeping and catching. :inti
 
OldWarHorse said:
You'll just have to wait for the next edition of IPL, when Samson comes up with his one special knock of the year and everyone goes gaga over this special 25 year old youngster.
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Also true. Punctuated with comparisons to Rohit, perceived elegance, and notes on how he has that extra 2 seconds for his shots.
 
2 series win in Australia. highest average among wicket keepers. almost could have ended with 4 centuries by end of tour..
I guess india won’t mind this overhyped player for now
 
Pant and Pandya are like Stokes and Buttler for India in LOIs. India must back them at 5 & 6 going forward if they have to win 2023 WC.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Depends on which team these fans wanted Samson in. If it's LOI then that wicketkeeper slot is wide open. If it's test then Pant has to improve his wicketkeeping and catching. :inti
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The only thing pant needs to improve is wicketkeeping against spinners. But its quite obvious now that the wicketkeeper spot in tests has been sealed.

In Lois too he will be a regular member, in the coming years. He is a class above all the other contenders.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
The only thing pant needs to improve is wicketkeeping against spinners. But its quite obvious now that the wicketkeeper spot in tests has been sealed.

In Lois too he will be a regular member, in the coming years. He is a class above all the other contenders.
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in LOIs Rahul is doing a fine job.I want Pant to concentrate on Tests for now

Once he matures he can always play in LOIs

Same for Gill
 
Saurav said:
in LOIs Rahul is doing a fine job.I want Pant to concentrate on Tests for now

Once he matures he can always play in LOIs

Same for Gill
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Why can't Gill play in LOI's? Dhawan won't play in the next ODI world cup. He is 35. We need at least 2 backup openers. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Why can't Gill play in LOI's? Dhawan won't play in the next ODI world cup. He is 35. We need at least 2 backup openers. :inti
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His game is too much like Rohit.

We need someone who can accelerate from word go. Maybe Aggarwal or even Shaw.They are suited for LOIs

If we are looking for left hander,Kishan can be the one

Gill can be drafted in 2 years down the line
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Why can't Gill play in LOI's? Dhawan won't play in the next ODI world cup. He is 35. We need at least 2 backup openers. :inti
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Correct. Gill needs to be incorporated in ODI squad immediately. Dhawan and Rohit both are injury prone in recent times, need to have Mayank, Pamt and Gill groomed and ready. Rahul is doing pretty ok in middle in ODI, hence won't change that. Instead Gill , Mayank and Pant should be rotated in the top 3 to keep them ready.

For 2023 I am looking at something like -

Rohit
Pant
Gill
Kohli
Rahul
Hardik
Jadeja
Sundar
Bumrah
10th bowler
11th bowler

Pant can keep the RR going in the initial overs letting Rohit settle down
Gill and Kohli will keep the middle overs going
Rahul and Hardik can smash around in the end overs.
Jadeja and Sundar can support as well
Mayank as backup opener. He can even play at 3 if needed and can be extremely effective against spinners
Dhawan(if still performing ) and Iyer can be in the squad with WC in India depending on the squad limit.
Expecting Kartik Tyagi and Ravi Bishnoi to be in contention by then.

There are some talented young players and if groomed properly they should be able to establish them. Hopefully we also able to identify next players in pipeline as well in case this squad struggles
 
leg-side-flick said:
Lol at Umar Akmal
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Lol what stopped you from saying this when I made that post? Did you have any doubts? It looks pretty weak when you have to dig old posts and then comment on them because guys like you had nothing to debate at that time. I am pretty sure you will hide and come back only when Pant again plays an inning like this. :inti
 
Saurav said:
His game is too much like Rohit.

We need someone who can accelerate from word go. Maybe Aggarwal or even Shaw.They are suited for LOIs

If we are looking for left hander,Kishan can be the one

Gill can be drafted in 2 years down the line
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Then he is good enough to replace Rohit. It's not that we have too many glorious batsman playing for Indian team in the middle order. There are 2-3 spots open. He can play anywhere. May be we should play Dhawan at 4. :inti

Rohit
Gill
Kohli
Dhawan
Rahul/Pant
Pandya
Jaddu
Chahal/Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah
Nattu
 
Rohit
Dhwan
Kohli
Gill
Rahul
Pant
Pandya
Jadeja
Spinner (wickets taker)
Bumrah
2nd faster ( wicket taker)
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Then he is good enough to replace Rohit. It's not that we have too many glorious batsman playing for Indian team in the middle order. There are 2-3 spots open. He can play anywhere. May be we should play Dhawan at 4. :inti

Rohit
Gill
Kohli
Dhawan
Rahul/Pant
Pandya
Jaddu
Chahal/Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah
Nattu
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Rahul is a certainty.I'd have Mayank opening with Rohit. Iyer is also doing ok at 4.


Rohit
Mayank
Kohli
Iyer
Rahul(wk)
Pandya
Jaddu/Sundar
Bhuvi/Thakur
Shami
Chahal/Kuldeep
Bumrah
 
AMSS said:
How many subcontinental batsmen struck centuries on their first tours of England and Australia? Exactly.

He'll be a monster in subcontinent and well above average elsewhere. A 45+ test average bat, but most importantly, his runs will be impactful.
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Going to quote myself from the first page because Pant played 3 impactful knock in 3 matches he played.
 
Pants has massive potential with the bat. Almost Gilly level. It is his keeping which will pull him little down compared to Gilly but then Gilly debuted in tests at age of 28. Pants is 23.
 
Saurav said:
Pant dropped 3 this series.Paine 7

Pant didn't drop a single one off seamers

He's no Saha but this is the age of WK bats
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He dropped catch against seamer too, and we have a thread on that 'claimed' catch
 
Smbhayi said:
He dropped catch against seamer too, and we have a thread on that 'claimed' catch
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That could have gone either way.Even the commentators acknowledged that

Wouldn't put it down as a drop.Not a huge one anyway
 
NishanKonar said:
Sanju Samson has been the " Next Big Thing " for Indian cricket since 2013 & will continue to be so for the years without actually becoming the " Big Thing "
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Samson is yet to take his FC average in 40s. Almost every Ramji team has at least one batsman averaging in 50s and another couple Averaging in 40s. Pant in his first season smashed 972 runs @81 and at a SR of 107. Sanju has not been able to produce such performance till now.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
Samson is yet to take his FC average in 40s. Almost every Ramji team has at least one batsman averaging in 50s and another couple Averaging in 40s. Pant in his first season smashed 972 runs @81 and at a SR of 107. Sanju has not been able to produce such performance till now.
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Sanju is good on the eyes but he is talented in only Pakistani definition of talent. He can time the ball nicely on the up and has played some good t20 innings. That's it. We are still waiting for him to convert this into a real good domestic season. A thousand runs for Kerala.

Pant was always level above when he played Ranji. The fear his batting commands domestically is the reason he is given chance after chance internationally.
 
JattMaula said:
Sanju is good on the eyes but he is talented in only Pakistani definition of talent. He can time the ball nicely on the up and has played some good t20 innings. That's it. We are still waiting for him to convert this into a real good domestic season. A thousand runs for Kerala.

Pant was always level above when he played Ranji. The fear his batting commands domestically is the reason he is given chance after chance internationally.
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Pant smacked a couple of triple centuries in one season.
Samson just scores pretty looking 30 and 40s and he has been given ample chances.
He needs to go big and score like 1000 runs a season to be seriously considered.
Batting in India is all about numbers and nothing else.
 
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hoshiarpurexpress said:
most of the times teams were rolled out before he was needed. In Australia during that time that ATG team had lot of Innings victories.
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And they also had extraordinary luck with toss, and they always batted first after winning tosses
 
People who still doubt Pant, I can only pity their lack of eye for talent. We are watching a Gilchrist clone, in fact can even be better since he is so young. And when did Gilly come remotely close to doing what Pant did in consecutive tests a few days back? He is a good keeper against pace, fans just like to moan, find faults. Only against high quality spinners like Ashwin and Jadeja does Pant have issues. He is working hard on his keeping and recently made it clear that he wants to be the best keeper in the world, I am sure he will achieve his goals and in a few years time his name will be a certainty when we talk about ATG keepers.
 
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BaankeJi said:
Amazing. Gilchrist played 96 tests but batted in 4th innings only 15 times. Verified from cricinfo statsguru. Would never have believed if I had not seen it myself!
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Absolutely surprising stats, I think this is how one way we should measure stats of GOAT teams, to see how many 4th innings the middle order played lol [MENTION=97523]Buffet[/MENTION]
 
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