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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Since so many people are already calling him Sehwag 2.0 or even better than Sehwag/Gilly. How about we drop Rohit, open with Pant and play a specialist keeper like Saha/Bharat? I am pretty sure he will take the game away from the opposition right from the start and score triple hundreds for fun. Not to mention completing his 100s, 200s and 300s through sixes. We are wasting his talent in middle order. What do his die hard fans like [MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION] or [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] [MENTION=146232]jeeteshssaxena[/MENTION] suggest?

This is a serious suggestion. Rohit isn't doing anything special at the top and same can be said about Pant's wicketkeeping. Let the discussion rolling. :inti
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KL Rahul is the man to be persisted as opener! The sooner the management realizes it the better! Just like how guys like Rahane, Rohit get so many chances in spite of inconsistency!

I know you are still unable to digest the success of our (your?) favorite IPL player in tests and searching new ways to mock his success!
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
You don't expose stroke makers to new ball.

Pant will be destructive with old ball.

Even shubman Gill is wasted as an opener. He will wreak more havoc in middle order.
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Then how is Pant better than Sehwag or Sehwag 2.0? I am sure you remember Sehwag's inning against England in Chennai? :inti
 
RamLakhan said:
KL Rahul is the man to be persisted as opener! The sooner the management realizes it the better! Just like how guys like Rahane, Rohit get so many chances in spite of inconsistency!

I know you are still unable to digest the success of our (your?) favorite IPL player in tests and searching new ways to mock his success!
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Why do some of you start crying lol? I am mocking his comparisons with Sehwag and Gilly not his success. Learn to differentiate. And as I said earlier if he is Sehwag 2.0 or even better than Sehwag why can't he open the inning for India? Why hide him down the order? :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Why do some of you start crying lol? I am mocking his comparisons with Sehwag and Gilly not his success. Learn to differentiate. And as I said earlier if he is Sehwag 2.0 or even better than Sehwag why can't he open the inning for India? Why hide him down the order? :inti
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How many keepers open the batting in tests???
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Why do some of you start crying lol? I am mocking his comparisons with Sehwag and Gilly not his success. Learn to differentiate. And as I said earlier if he is Sehwag 2.0 or even better than Sehwag why can't he open the inning for India? Why hide him down the order? :inti
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He is not opener! And Sehwag was average in middle order (he succeeded only after getting promoted to opening). Pant may also open in the future perhaps if he somehow gets a chance to open in LOIs which gives confidence enough for the management to use him even in tests, for that he needs to be very consistent! (Also there should be vacancy in opening slot! At the moment there is lot of vacancy in the middle order - I am combining both LOI & Tests here)

Anyhow an ardent Test Fan like you should know how openers are selected & groomed in Tests! Also Pant keeps wickets so he need not take the entire batting responsibility & play that longer!
 
Reverse sweep 4
Straight smash for 4
Nearly out

Pant all the way.
 
Hopefully, he scores a big one. I have my money on him and Ashwin for this test.
 
Brought a smile to my face when he pulled that 4 brilliantly in the last over of the day. Most players would have been looking to survive, but not Pant.
 
A very Rohial Nazir or is it Rohail Ahmed ? @ Junaids type innings. We know the class of Rohail and how proven he is at the international arena..
 
When Pant is batting, it doesnt matter what type of wicket it is, bowlers most likely will all get Pulverized. The kid is one of the most special talents I have seen in a long time and he is only what 22 ? World at his feet and sky is the limit. Sure he will make mistakes along the way but who is perfect ? no one
 
OldWarHorse said:
He won over the Chennai crowd today. They appreciate a good player no matter who.
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Yup the chennai crowd was always great.
On the other hand Keralites are the worst.
Booed Pant throughout the match just because they wanted to see their favorite Sanju Samson (bcoz he is from kerala) :facepalm.
 
The lad is neither overrated nor overhyped. He is a very special batting talent.
 
The propaganda over his keeping is just a desperate tactic by folks who cannot digest his incredible batting talent.

He is already a good keeper against pace and that grab of Pope is just an example of how good he will be in a few years.

He will also improve against spin after keeping in India for a few Tests.

He is just an incredible talent.
 
About time the title of this thread is changed

He's justified all the hype he got

Missing our Viru guy here :P
 
Mamoon said:
The propaganda over his keeping is just a desperate tactic by folks who cannot digest his incredible batting talent.

He is already a good keeper against pace and that grab of Pope is just an example of how good he will be in a few years.

He will also improve against spin after keeping in India for a few Tests.

He is just an incredible talent.
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Was rubbish in Australia as a keeper. Also in first game.
 
Two brilliant catches and generally good vs spin on a tough track
 
I think he looks special. Already a sublime talent with the bat and showing great improvement behind the stumps. Two brilliant catches. Can only get better.
 
An exceptional cricketer. Not many Indian cricketers can claim of what he has achieved at age of 23.
 
Chrish said:
Was rubbish in Australia as a keeper. Also in first game.
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You have a weird definition of rubbish. He didn't drop even half the catches Paine did. And how was he rubbish in first game? He was pretty decent, only missed a very tough chance down the left
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Ind vs wi t20 2019 dec
Kohli had to intervene to stop them.
The fact that fans want to see a player in the team just bcoz he is a local boy drives me crazy.
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I see.

I was a fan of Sanju as he is from my hometown, however Pant has sealed Sanju's fate, Sanju should have tried to get into the team a lot earlier, wasnt meant to be... Perfectly happy with Pant, Sanju can star in the IPL and get his money.
 
Romali_rotti said:
I see.

I was a fan of Sanju as he is from my hometown, however Pant has sealed Sanju's fate, Sanju should have tried to get into the team a lot earlier, wasnt meant to be... Perfectly happy with Pant, Sanju can star in the IPL and get his money.
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Its ok if you like a player but chanting Sanju and Dhoni dhoni everytime Pant drops a catch is awful(also i am just talking about the match audience ).
Sanju can still become a starter in t20is, but in odis and tests i dont think there's any chance.
 
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jeeteshssaxena said:
Its ok if you like a player but chanting Sanju and Dhoni dhoni everytime Pant drops a catch is awful(also i am just talking about the match audience ).
Sanju can still become a starter in t20is, but in odis and tests i dont think there's any chance.
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Yeah, I recall Virat had to come up with statements requesting Indian crowds to support the player rather than asking for Dhoni's comeback and Rohit also requesting fans to keep their eyes off from Rishabh Pant for some time.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
He is a trailblazer like Sehwag.

Crazy thing is he is able to keep hitting even under immense pressure and puts the team on top batting in 3rd or 4th innings.

In this aspect, he's better than sehwag himself.

Eng will be wary of setting a competitive 4th innings target because of him.

Such is his impact.

He's gonna change cricket as we know it.
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sensible-indian-fan said:
What?

I called Pant as Gilly 2.0.

Not Sehwag 2.0.

You are in argument with so many posters that you have forgotten who said what. :P
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When you actually did call him better than Sehwag in 3rd or 4th innings that is why I asked you about Sehwag's Chennai inning. Don't worry even when I am dealing with many people at the same time I mostly remember who said what especially when it was discussed recently. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Since so many people are already calling him Sehwag 2.0 or even better than Sehwag/Gilly. How about we drop Rohit, open with Pant and play a specialist keeper like Saha/Bharat? I am pretty sure he will take the game away from the opposition right from the start and score triple hundreds for fun. Not to mention completing his 100s, 200s and 300s through sixes. We are wasting his talent in middle order. What do his die hard fans like [MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION] or [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] [MENTION=146232]jeeteshssaxena[/MENTION] suggest?

This is a serious suggestion. Rohit isn't doing anything special at the top and same can be said about Pant's wicketkeeping. Let the discussion rolling. :inti
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Same question. Hopefully I will get answers from [MENTION=146232]jeeteshssaxena[/MENTION] [MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION] [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] this time. :inti
 
Indiafan said:
You have a weird definition of rubbish. He didn't drop even half the catches Paine did. And how was he rubbish in first game? He was pretty decent, only missed a very tough chance down the left
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His competition is not with Paine. May be you forgot fans here are calling him Gilly 2.0 in that aspect he has a long way to go. Gilly was also superb in ODI's. Its funny as soon as someone talks about his keeping you start comparing him with the likes of Paine. :inti
 
^^ Before you answer that question. Do keep in mind that even though Rohit scored a century in this game he isn't a permanent solution. His test career could be over against England in England later this year. :inti
 
leg-side-flick said:
How many keepers open the batting in tests???
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Do you even read the whole converstion before jumping in like an excited teen? I said if he is better than Sehwag, why not play him as an opener and play a specialist keeper like Saha/Bharat? Read the above posts first before replying. :inti
 
RamLakhan said:
He is not opener! And Sehwag was average in middle order (he succeeded only after getting promoted to opening). Pant may also open in the future perhaps if he somehow gets a chance to open in LOIs which gives confidence enough for the management to use him even in tests, for that he needs to be very consistent! (Also there should be vacancy in opening slot! At the moment there is lot of vacancy in the middle order - I am combining both LOI & Tests here)

Anyhow an ardent Test Fan like you should know how openers are selected & groomed in Tests! Also Pant keeps wickets so he need not take the entire batting responsibility & play that longer!
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It seems you too didn't read the post completely. He can play as a specialist opener. The current options for openers we have aren't that good. We all know what KL Rahul did in England as an opener, Rohit is 34, fans aren't convinced on Shaw either. :inti
 
cricketjoshila said:
I am still looking for that thread and those posts.
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Lol why do you keep talking indirectly and run away when I quote you directly? Everytime I quote you run like a roasted chicken. I literally get a feeling of Bhaag Joshila Bhaag from you. You are pretty weak lol. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Since so many people are already calling him Sehwag 2.0 or even better than Sehwag/Gilly. How about we drop Rohit, open with Pant and play a specialist keeper like Saha/Bharat? I am pretty sure he will take the game away from the opposition right from the start and score triple hundreds for fun. Not to mention completing his 100s, 200s and 300s through sixes. We are wasting his talent in middle order. What do his die hard fans like [MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION] or [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] [MENTION=146232]jeeteshssaxena[/MENTION] suggest?

This is a serious suggestion. Rohit isn't doing anything special at the top and same can be said about Pant's wicketkeeping. Let the discussion rolling. :inti
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Why would you drop Rohit to begin with, everyone in media has been calling Rohit as Sehwag 2.0 from quite some time? Rohit is not going anywhere. He may fail in England but then he should be replaced by another opening option, not by a world class middle order keeper batsman.

Pant is a brilliant batsman and his keeping is getting better after every match. Going back to Saha/Bharat is asking for trouble because you will basically play them at no 7 with Jadeja probably coming to bat at 6 as you need five bowlers and Rahane at 5. That's asking for trouble itself, the team will be much weaker if we have a lower middle order like that.

Pant's keeping will be very good too if we give him a couple of home seasons to improve. He took two phenomenal catches today, he is destined for big things and he has already achieved one of many big things- standout performer in India's greatest overseas test win ever. He is no longer our problem.

:inti
 
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Ab Fan said:
Why would you drop Rohit to begin with, everyone in media has been calling Rohit as Sehwag 2.0 from quite some time? Rohit is not going anywhere. He may fail in England but then he should be replaced by another opening option, not by a world class middle order keeper batsman.

Pant is a brilliant batsman and his keeping is getting better after every match. Going back to Saha/Bharat is asking for trouble because you will basically play them at no 7 with Jadeja probably coming to bat at 6 as you need five bowlers and Rahane at 5. That's asking for trouble itself, the team will be much weaker if we have a lower middle order like that.

Pant's keeping will be very good too if we give him a couple of home seasons to improve. He took two phenomenal catches today, he is destined for big things and he has already achieved one of many big things- standout performer in India's greatest overseas test win ever. He is no longer our problem.

:inti
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Are you saying that because Rohit scored a century in this match? 90% of the fans wanted him out of this Indian team and crying over Mumbai lobby just before this match, suddenly he deserves to play in the team and can't be dropped lol. And if Pant can't play as an opener and is a middle order batsman then why are some fans calling him better than Sehwag? :inti
 
Happy to see he was not out.. his positive attitude is nice to see and esp after so much criticism from us fans inspite of scoring tons.
 
Saurav said:
No. He dropped 3 in Aus.Paine dropped 7.That shows how tough it was

In 1st Test he was okay except 1 stumping
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Indiafan said:
You have a weird definition of rubbish. He didn't drop even half the catches Paine did. And how was he rubbish in first game? He was pretty decent, only missed a very tough chance down the left
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Just because he was better than Paine doesn’t mean much as Paine was also garbage.

I would make Pant specialist batsman and bring in proper keeper.
 
Chrish said:
Just because he was better than Paine doesn’t mean much as Paine was also garbage.

I would make Pant specialist batsman and bring in proper keeper.
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Who'd you drop?

And it's not needed anyway as he seems to be improving and offers balance
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Are you saying that because Rohit scored a century in this match? 90% of the fans wanted him out of this Indian team and crying over Mumbai lobby just before this match, suddenly he deserves to play in the team and can't be dropped lol. And if Pant can't play as an opener and is a middle order batsman then why are some fans calling him better than Sehwag? :inti
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No. There were questions against him not scoring quality runs even at home. He proved his critics wrong with this performance. But the question mark is still there on his overseas performance in England, South Africa and New Zealand. This doesn't mean you drop him. He gave good starts in Australia unlike Prithvi Shaw who averaged 2.0( this is not version but his average) in first test :inti

I am yet to know which fan is calling Pant better than Sehwag. And anyways, you don't have to open the batting to be a better bat than Sehwag.

Tendulkar and Kohli are better bats than Sehwag but they don't open the batting in test. Also, fans also say that Rohit is next Sehwag but it seems you don't have problem with that but when people say that Pant is next Sehwag, there seems to be some issue :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
No. There were questions against him not scoring quality runs even at home. He proved his critics wrong with this performance. But the question mark is still there on his overseas performance in England, South Africa and New Zealand. This doesn't mean you drop him. He gave good starts in Australia unlike Prithvi Shaw who averaged 2.0( this is not version but his average) in first test :inti

I am yet to know which fan is calling Pant better than Sehwag. And anyways, you don't have to open the batting to be a better bat than Sehwag.

Tendulkar and Kohli are better bats than Sehwag but they don't open the batting in test. Also, fans also say that Rohit is next Sehwag but it seems you don't have problem with that but when people say that Pant is next Sehwag, there seems to be some issue :inti
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How about you read the above posts to know who was calling Pant better than Sehwag lol? Rohit and Sehwag both are openers so there will be comparisons between them but Pant is a middle order batsman. I am pretty sure I do not have to baby sit you into explaining how difficult it is to open the batting in tests and comparing an opener with a middle order batsman looks like a joke. Your example about Sachin and Kohli is quite funny and shows you don't know what I am talking about. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
How about you read the above posts to know who was calling Pant better than Sehwag lol? Rohit and Sehwag both are openers so there will be comparisons between them but Pant is a middle order batsman. I am pretty sure I do not have to baby sit you into explaining how difficult it is to open the batting in tests and comparing an opener with a middle order batsman looks like a joke. Your example about Sachin and Kohli is quite funny and shows you don't know what I am talking about. :inti
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I really don't know what you are talking about? :yk

I can recall only my post where I said that Pant is next Sehwag and that was in reflection of the fact that like Sehwag, when Pant is in opposition team, the first team is scared of declaring early and giving their bowlers enough time to get the 10 wickets. So, in that regard, the comparison is pretty fine and true also.

Btw, I am still to know who said that Pant is better than Sehwag.

Also, opening the batting is not a hard job in subcontinent. There is hardly any major movement to deal with. But when there was movement around, we all know that Sehwag used to throw his bat bizzarely like he did in 2006 tour to South Africa :inti.
 
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Ab Fan said:
I really don't know what you are talking about? :yk

I can recall only my post where I said that Pant is next Sehwag and that was in reflection of the fact that like Sehwag, when Pant is in opposition team, the first team is scared of declaring early and giving their bowlers enough time to get the 10 wickets. So, in that regard, the comparison is pretty fine and true also.

Btw, I am still to know who said that Pant is better than Sehwag.

Also, opening the batting is not a hard job in subcontinent. There is hardly any major movement to deal with. But when there was movement around, we all know that Sehwag used to throw his bat bizzarely like he did in 2006 tour to South Africa :inti.
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You are looking clueless and acting quite dumb here. Don't be lazy and read the above posts. I never said that you said Pant is better than Sehwag. I was asking for your opinion but it seems you are having a tough sunday today. Will ask again tomorrow. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
You are looking clueless and acting quite dumb here. Don't be lazy and read the above posts. I never said that you said Pant is better than Sehwag. I was asking for your opinion but it seems you are having a tough sunday today. Will ask again tomorrow. :inti
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I gave my opinion. But you said this,

"Are you saying that because Rohit scored a century in this match? 90% of the fans wanted him out of this Indian team and crying over Mumbai lobby just before this match, suddenly he deserves to play in the team and can't be dropped lol. And if Pant can't play as an opener and is a middle order batsman then <B>why are some fans calling him better than Sehwag</B>?"



I am yet to know who said Pant is better than Sehwag? :inti
 
Will be good for India if Pant improves his wicket keeping skills. Otherwise India will have to play Pant as a specialist batsman and draft in a better wicketkeeper who will be an inferior batsman.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
When you actually did call him better than Sehwag in 3rd or 4th innings that is why I asked you about Sehwag's Chennai inning. Don't worry even when I am dealing with many people at the same time I mostly remember who said what especially when it was discussed recently. :inti
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Ab Fan said:
I gave my opinion. But you said this,

"Are you saying that because Rohit scored a century in this match? 90% of the fans wanted him out of this Indian team and crying over Mumbai lobby just before this match, suddenly he deserves to play in the team and can't be dropped lol. And if Pant can't play as an opener and is a middle order batsman then <B>why are some fans calling him better than Sehwag</B>?"



I am yet to know who said Pant is better than Sehwag? :inti
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That's because you just want to argue for the sake of it, don't want to scroll above and actually care to read it. Don't be so lazy now and read the full post I quoted above. For you I have actually quoted the post with this one. :inti
 
With the batting gloves he is Vivian Richards and with keeping gloves he is Allan Knott.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
When you actually did call him better than Sehwag in 3rd or 4th innings that is why I asked you about Sehwag's Chennai inning. Don't worry even when I am dealing with many people at the same time I mostly remember who said what especially when it was discussed recently. :inti
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Check Sehwag's numbers in 3rd and 4th innings.

Barring an innings here and there, its poor.

Pant is legendary here.

So I referred to him being better than Sehwag "in this aspect".
 
The only overrated keeper is gonna be Saha, as Pant first equals, then overtakes him. Dhoni alone will remain ahead of him in keeping skills :)
 
Pant behind stumps about Stokes,

"Pareshan ho raha hai poora"
 
pillionrider said:
The only overrated keeper is gonna be Saha, as Pant first equals, then overtakes him. Dhoni alone will remain ahead of him in keeping skills :)
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Yeah. Why would anyone prefer Saha over Pant is beyond me!
 
Just like he made everyone cry with his batting, this drama that he will never become a top keeper will also end in tears.

Give him 2-3 more series and he will become the best keeper in the world. He has already shown in this Test what he is capable of.
 
It's pointless discussing whether he should play as specialist bat or keeper. No need to fix someone which is not required and end up weakening your team lol.
 
I always knew his keeping was more to do with confidence than any technical faults as such. He will only improve from here
 
He is a quick learner. His keeping against pace is already very good and against spin is progressing well. More he plays the better he'll get.
 
Mamoon said:
Just like he made everyone cry with his batting, this drama that he will never become a top keeper will also end in tears.

Give him 2-3 more series and he will become the best keeper in the world. He has already shown in this Test what he is capable of.
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Haha... Mamoon on the ball.

His keeping was excellent this test.
 
Kohli said he has lost weight. And now he looks a better keeper. He will definitely improve his keeping, probably needed to play regularly on Indian pitches.
 
He was brilliant in this test. Cricjnfo wrote an article on Foakes but Pant has outdone him in this test with both bat and gloves. Didnt miss many and executed some breathtaking catches while Foakes missed two easy stumpings and a catch at crucial junctures.
 
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