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anyone whos hating on pant is a pure HATER. Probably the biggest match winner in test cricket ATM.

Hes gonna end up being an ATG is things keep going this way.
 
I was wrong about him, he's a gun batsmen in Tests.

Sir-fraz said:
anyone whos hating on pant is a pure HATER. Probably the biggest match winner in test cricket ATM.

Hes gonna end up being an ATG is things keep going this way.
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Early days but if he continues like this 4-5 years he could definitely be an all time great.
 
Sir-fraz said:
anyone whos hating on pant is a pure HATER. Probably the biggest match winner in test cricket ATM.

Hes gonna end up being an ATG is things keep going this way.
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And that's not how things work in life. He is in good form and making the most of it currently. :inti
 
Sir-fraz said:
anyone whos hating on pant is a pure HATER. Probably the biggest match winner in test cricket ATM.

Hes gonna end up being an ATG is things keep going this way.
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Long way away for ATG but as of now he and Rohit are performing better than Rahane, Pujara and Kohli
 
Still not better than Rohail Nazir. #Junaids :batman:
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
And that's not how things work in life. He is in good form and making the most of it currently. :inti
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Nah man, hes played quite a few innings lile this already. Hes a better test player then LOIs.

These type of innings are clearly not a fluke. Hes done it multiple times now.
 
At this rate Rohail Nazir/Ahmed will have competition, Pant is catching up with him.. [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION].
 
Sir-fraz said:
If* key word lol.
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yeah obviously tat applies to evryone who performs in debut,,,just feel its too early to even bring up an IF*.
ATG are people who have spent years and racked up records. Pant has just started
 
What an inning. What a time to play this inning. The sheer confidence and skills it takes to play his way.
 
Pant had some real haters in this thread. Slowly they are trying to wriggle on to his side lol. They have just been exposed with their shambolic judgement of a talent. epic failure!!
 
Indians are known for their hype and sometimes are justifiably criticized. But we are not a patch on the English.

Pant is the most sensational cricketer to have emerged in world cricket in the last few years. On the back of his stunning knocks vs Aus, today after his sensational hundred vs England in a must-win test match, the Indian commentators drew comparisons with Gilchrist but added that it was still early days and he had a long way to go.

Compare this with the English wk-batsman Steven Davies whose debut vs Australia I watched. With nothing other than a county career behind him, the English commentators were comparing him with Gilly :)))

Even Atherton or Hussain (one of them) succumbed but tried to keep it dignified by drawing parallels in their batting stance :rabada2
 
Safe to say Pant is a product of IPL? I mean Ranji can't teach you the audacity of reverse sweeping Jimmy Anderson with new ball. This mindet and fearlesness is what IPL has infused among young cricketers. Just brilliant.
 
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Rajdeep said:
Safe to say Pant is a product of IPL? I mean Ranji can't teach you the audacity of reverse sweeping Jimmy Anderson with new ball. This mindet and fearlesness is what IPL has infused among young cricketers. Just brilliant.
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Mate he bats like this since his U-19 days and it was the same in domestics. Go watch is triple century for Delhi.
Fearless cricket can be taught at IPL.. but some players are just fearless by nature. Pant is one.
 
Pant's innings always leaves me with a feeling of 'Why did you have to do that !!!" regardless of single digit score or a ton. Had an opportunity to kill off Eng but now left with match still in balance. If anything Eng is shading. Still a breathtaking innings under pressure. India owes a lot to him for atleast being in this position.
 
WengerOut said:
Pant's innings always leaves me with a feeling of 'Why did you have to do that !!!" regardless of single digit score or a ton. Had an opportunity to kill off Eng but now left with match still in balance. If anything Eng is shading. Still a breathtaking innings under pressure. India owes a lot to him for atleast being in this position.
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Except he reached 100 by playing similarly. He would never have got to a 100 he he tried what you said. He is simply not that kind of batsman. Defending against Jimmy with the new ball would mean he would be out in the 70s instead of 100
 
WengerOut said:
Pant's innings always leaves me with a feeling of 'Why did you have to do that !!!" regardless of single digit score or a ton. Had an opportunity to kill off Eng but now left with match still in balance. If anything Eng is shading. Still a breathtaking innings under pressure. India owes a lot to him for atleast being in this position.
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Agree...all his dismissals looks like he is throwing it away rather than getting out on good delivery. No one would complain as long as he is getting these big scores but when he fails same fans (including myself) would question his mindset.
 
Pant's each performance is a slap across the face for each of these haters include some pseudo fans.
Great entertainment to watch them change sides now. lol.
 
It could be another series-changing knock. Reminds of Gilly.
 
AMSS said:
How many subcontinental batsmen struck centuries on their first tours of England and Australia? Exactly.

He'll be a monster in subcontinent and well above average elsewhere. A 45+ test average bat, but most importantly, his runs will be impactful.
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1. Above average away
2. Monster at home
3. Impactful runs.

This guy nailed it on the very first page of this thread.
 
AMSS said:
:)))

This guy. How's he *always* wrong?
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The time it took you to respond to my post shows I wasn't wrong. He is playing as a wicketkeeper batsman and if he stops keeping wicket he won't make it into this team. I thought fans would have learnt that lesson by looking at how Pandya(another one who could play as a batsman) is warming the bench these days because he can't offer his bowling services. :inti
 
JibranAnsari said:
but he cant bowl so his batting doesnt count
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He has to keep well to keep getting selected in this team though. He is enjoying his good form currently but this is cricket nothing is constant. His and his fans real test will be when he fails in 2-3 series which is also part of cricket. :inti
 
Lol Pant is our best batsman in recent times.

Bhai you are digging a bigger hole for yourself :))

Just accept you were 100% wrong and move on.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
He has to keep well to keep getting selected in this team though. He is enjoying his good form currently but this is cricket nothing is constant. His and his fans real test will be when he fails in 2-3 series which is also part of cricket. :inti
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Still doesnt matter.

He has shown his skills and fans were right to back him.

Had they listened to you, we wouldnt have had Aus series win and you would have been harping on the asterix win lol.
 
Congratulations to greatest wicket keeping batsman from asia on yet another routine match winning knock
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Lol Pant is our best batsman in recent times.

Bhai you are digging a bigger hole for yourself :))

Just accept you were 100% wrong and move on.
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My prediction :
He will retire with an average of below 30. Not sure why do you guys keep getting hurt? He has yet to retire and he will bad series too. This is my prediction and prediction can only be wrong when it has reached its limit. There is still 10-12 years of cricket yet to be played lol. I will praise him when he plays innings like this and criticise him too if he doesn't. As far as overhyping a player or worshipping is concerned I will never do it. Some of you aŕe too sensitive and some of you digging my old posts to feel good about it shows what impact my opinion had on you guys. :misbah :inti
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Still doesnt matter.

He has shown his skills and fans were right to back him.

Had they listened to you, we wouldnt have had Aus series win and you would have been harping on the asterix win lol.
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You are saying it now because he is in good form. Once he goes through bad form you lot will be the first one to curse him and his family. Just like you guys did with yuvi, dhoni and countless other indian players. At least I don't cross my line when it comes to criticising a player. And I keep it to cricket only. :inti
 
Indias x-factor player and will be difference maker in alot of tight games. A real batting talent.
 
WengerOut said:
Pant's innings always leaves me with a feeling of 'Why did you have to do that !!!" regardless of single digit score or a ton. Had an opportunity to kill off Eng but now left with match still in balance. If anything Eng is shading. Still a breathtaking innings under pressure. India owes a lot to him for atleast being in this position.
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because you love him a lot. secretly you wish that he goes on to score a triple ton. :D
 
OMB said:
because you love him a lot. secretly you wish that he goes on to score a triple ton. :D
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Yes. That is exactly why although triple ton is too much of a stretch. Atleast a 150 should have sufficed here.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
You are saying it now because he is in good form. Once he goes through bad form you lot will be the first one to curse him and his family. Just like you guys did with yuvi, dhoni and countless other indian players. At least I don't cross my line when it comes to criticising a player. And I keep it to cricket only. :inti
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Nah we have backed him even when he wasnt performing.

And after his centuries in Eng and Aus first tour, all doubts should have been cleared.

But you had other ideas.

Thats why i said had we listened to you, there would be no aus series win and we would have had to listen to your asterix jibes lol.

As for yuvi and dhoni...

Theres a difference between backing a youngster and asking an over the hill oldie to retire. :))

Heck due to dhoni, yuvi and other oldies we lost 3 silverwares (wt20 2014, ct 2017 and wc 2019
 
Rishabh Pant is already India's greatest test wicket keeper batsman of all-time in my opinion.

He has led his team to a test series win in Australia, a feat that no other Asian batsman has achieved as standout keeper batsman and has delivered a special performance vs England in this series-decider.

His 159 vs Australia in Australia is already forgotten by his fans but if it was some other player, people would have been still mentioning that inning. An outstanding test match player and a huge match winner.
 
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sensible-indian-fan said:
Nah we have backed him even when he wasnt performing.

And after his centuries in Eng and Aus first tour, all doubts should have been cleared.

But you had other ideas.

Thats why i said had we listened to you, there would be no aus series win and we would have had to listen to your asterix jibes lol.

As for yuvi and dhoni...

Theres a difference between backing a youngster and asking an over the hill oldie to retire. :))

Heck due to dhoni, yuvi and other oldies we lost 3 silverwares (wt20 2014, ct 2017 and wc 2019
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It is not about listening to me or anyone here. We are here for discussion not to influence Indian team selections. It has nothing to do with backing youngster when the time comes Pant will be criticised by the same guys who are overhyping him. I already saw a little trailer of this when he was dropped from LOI sides and Saha was picked over him in tests. These same guys are now back again supporting him lol.

Also I don't agree with you blaming Dhoni for Indian losses especially in WC 2019 where the real villains were Pant and Pandya for our semi final loss. :inti
 
Pant is the best ever...he killed all his idiotic haters with his bat....
 
Ab Fan said:
Rishabh Pant is already India's greatest test wicket keeper batsman of all-time in my opinion.

He has led his team to a test series win in Australia, a feat that no other Asian batsman has achieved as standout keeper batsman and has delivered a special performance vs England in this series-decider.

An outstanding test match player and a huge match winner.
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yes as Wicketkeeper batsman he has been best so far. I hope he continues and goes on to become India's ATG WK-Bat.
 
We are watching something unprecedented unfold before our eyes here, at least from Indian cricket's perspective. We have never had a wicket keeper batsman that has played as many high impact innings as Rishabh Pant has, and the fact that he's only 23 is scarcely believable from Indian cricket's pov. People think he's a hack who chances his way to runs, but there's a very clear method to his madness. This is what Pat Cummins had to say on Pant after the Ind-Aus series:

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He doesn't go for broke from the start and carefully builds his innings. Today's innings was a perfect example, and just when England took the new ball in the final hour of play, he sensed England's bowlers were running out of gas and threw the kitchen sink at them. And perhaps the biggest quality about his batting is that he doesn't seem to rate getting centuries as a milestone which is an extremely rare attitude for an Indian cricketer. I've observed that he often plays very sensibly when he comes out to bat and builds his innings but as he nears his century mark, he becomes crazy and crazier, taking all kinds of risks even in the 90s. He has probably missed out on at least 5 tons by playing what you would term reckless cricket, but then again, that's his game. It's also probably why in a very short career, he has ended up playing so many high impact match changing innings despite not having many centuries. And that will probably be his legacy by the time he hangs up his boots - impact over milestones.
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
If Rahane makes the team as a batsman then so does Pant.
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Forget Pant for a second, what about Pandya? The same thing was said about him too that he can make it into this Indian team as a batsman alone. Why is he warming the bench and not playing ahead of Rahane who isn't in good form? Pant is currently doing good as a wicketkeeper batsman but to stay in this team and play over any specialist batsman he has to continuously improve his keeping. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
It is not about listening to me or anyone here. We are here for discussion not to influence Indian team selections. It has nothing to do with backing youngster when the time comes Pant will be criticised by the same guys who are overhyping him. I already saw a little trailer of this when he was dropped from LOI sides and Saha was picked over him in tests. These same guys are now back again supporting him lol.

Also I don't agree with you blaming Dhoni for Indian losses especially in WC 2019 where the real villains were Pant and Pandya for our semi final loss. :inti
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I get your views.

You are wrong on all counts tho.

Blaming Pant and Pandya for wc 2019 loss?

:))) :))) :)))

No wonder you have got it wrong so bad.

Introspect mate.
 
Where are the pakistani posters who called him Tullaybaaz?

Pant right now has more impactful innings in tests than Babbar. He has been that good.
 
Oh and I've always thought test cricket will be his best format, a bit like Sehwag, who was a better test batsman than an ODI batsman.

He clearly has a great hand eye coordination, and he doesn't attack every ball but waits for the balls in his zone to pounce on them, and test cricket sort of allows that to happen while the fast pace of LOI cricket doesn't allow you the same leeway. Me personally, as long as he's performing in test cricket, I couldn't give a damn if he flops in LOI cricket altogether.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Forget Pant for a second, what about Pandya? The same thing was said about him too that he can make it into this Indian team as a batsman alone. Why is he warming the bench and not playing ahead of Rahane who isn't in good form?
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I'm a regular viewer. Not a member of the selection committee. Ask that question to them.

And even the selection committee consists of humans. Not gods incapable of making mistakes. :inti

Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Pant is currently doing good as a wicketkeeper batsman but to stay in this team and play over any specialist batsman he has to continuously improve his keeping.
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He shouldn't because most of the other batsmen aren't doing particularly great anyway.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
It is not about listening to me or anyone here. We are here for discussion not to influence Indian team selections. It has nothing to do with backing youngster when the time comes Pant will be criticised by the same guys who are overhyping him. I already saw a little trailer of this when he was dropped from LOI sides and Saha was picked over him in tests. These same guys are now back again supporting him lol.

Also I don't agree with you blaming Dhoni for Indian losses especially in WC 2019 where the real villains were Pant and Pandya for our semi final loss. :inti
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So in short, you mean right now Pant is playing well, but lets not idolize him. and you predict he is going to average below 30, unless after 10 year he turns out to be successful at which point and after that point only, you will start admiring his achievements which most people are celebrating now.
 
street cricketer said:
Oh and I've always thought test cricket will be his best format, a bit like Sehwag, who was a better test batsman than an ODI batsman.

He clearly has a great hand eye coordination, and he doesn't attack every ball but waits for the balls in his zone to pounce on them, and test cricket sort of allows that to happen while the fast pace of LOI cricket doesn't allow you the same leeway. Me personally, as long as he's performing in test cricket, I couldn't give a damn if he flops in LOI cricket altogether.
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Yeah atleast for now that’s what it looks like..
 
street cricketer said:
Oh and I've always thought test cricket will be his best format, a bit like Sehwag, who was a better test batsman than an ODI batsman.
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Yeah, he hasn't really done well in ODIs. Remains to be seen if he has the mindset for it. It isn't just about big hitting. It's also about being smart. And that's something he will need to prove to succeed in ODIs, especially while batting in the middle order.
 
Lucky to score a hundred.. Wouldn't have scored even 50 if umpire is not biased :sanga..
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
It is not about listening to me or anyone here. We are here for discussion not to influence Indian team selections. It has nothing to do with backing youngster when the time comes Pant will be criticised by the same guys who are overhyping him. I already saw a little trailer of this when he was dropped from LOI sides and Saha was picked over him in tests. These same guys are now back again supporting him lol.

Also I don't agree with you blaming Dhoni for Indian losses especially in WC 2019 where the real villains were Pant and Pandya for our semi final loss. :inti
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So you are so shameless you would blame a 21 year old playing his first world cup for a semi final loss and not a veteran who hung on too long and played too slow?
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Bhaag viru bhaag has a coin toss to see whom to love or hate.

Rishabh - hate
Prithvi - love
Pandya - hate

After deciding, he sticks to it regardless of facts or logic.
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Show me one thread where I said I love, worship, idolize or overhype Shaw? I just questionned those who were ridiculing him after 2-3 failures but giving endless opportunities to others. I wanted him to get equal number of opportunities as others are getting. That is not love or overhyping. I also exposed the hypocrisy of someohe like [MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION] who asked me to not criticise a talented youngster like Pant but didn't utter a single word when some fans were criticising Shaw after his failures in the first test against Aus where almost everyone failed.

It's always a good tactic when you can't counter anything just put words in other's mouth. :inti
 
Indiafan said:
So you are so shameless you would blame a 21 year old playing his first world cup for a semi final loss and not a veteran who hung on too long and played too slow?
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Gotta say Dhoni, in his last 4 years had become an expert in those type of innings. Will halt the momentum in the disguise of rebuilding, takes the RRR to an improbable level, makes the other batsmen take risks and they get out in pursuit and when there is no chance of victory, he will smack boundaries and his innings will look credible. Fans will laud him for being the only man fought.
 
Indiafan said:
So you are so shameless you would blame a 21 year old playing his first world cup for a semi final loss and not a veteran who hung on too long and played too slow?
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Here comes the hypocrite lol. Where were you when fans were blaming 21 year old Prithvi Shaw for our loss in Pink Ball test against Australia recently? Aren't you the same guy who predicted that Ishant will lose 100 tests for India? It seems you love to embarrass yourself again and again lol. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Show me one thread where I said I love, worship, idolize or overhype Shaw? I just questionned those who were ridiculing him after 2-3 failures but giving endless opportunities to others. I wanted him to get equal number of opportunities as others are getting. That is not love or overhyping. I also exposed the hypocrisy of someohe like [MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION] who asked me to not criticise a talented youngster like Pant but didn't utter a single word when some fans were criticising Shaw after his failures in the first test against Aus where almost everyone failed.

It's always a good tactic when you can't counter anything just put words in other's mouth. :inti
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And all the indian posters told you why Shaw had to be dropped for his own good due to a glaring technical issue which prevented him from defending even simple deliveries (in IPL let alone test cricket).

You heard it and then proceeded to completely ignore the point and kept harping about "backing him" with no regards to reasoning and context.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
And all the indian posters told you why Shaw had to be dropped for his own good due to a glaring technical issue which prevented him from defending even simple deliveries (in IPL let alone test cricket).

You heard it and then proceeded to completely ignore the point and kept harping about "backing him" with no regards to reasoning and context.
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Where were you guys when I said exact same thing about KL Rahul that he needs to be dropped from test side for his own good after last England tour? He flopped in the West Indies series and finally dropped after that. Was I wrong there? Do you know what your fellow fans said at that time? They said "what will he learn in domestic? He should continue to be in the Indian squad and keep playing for India". When it came to Shaw you guys switched the logic and wanted him out of the team immediately. Once again I am exposing the hypocrisy of you guys here not supporting Shaw. You guys have two rules for two different players. You hype one guy to the moon and discard others like a tissue paper after 2-3 bad outings. :inti
 
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The only two wicket-keepers to score Test hundreds in England, Australia and India.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Where were you guys when I said exact same thing about KL Rahul that he needs to be dropped from test side for his own good after last England tour? He flopped in the West Indies series and finally dropped after that. Was I wrong there? Do you know what your fellow fans said at that time? They said "what will he learn in domestic? He should continue to be in the Indian squad and keep playing for India". When it came to Shaw you guys switched the logic and wanted him out of the team immediately. Once again I am exposing the hypocrisy of you guys here not supporting Shaw. You guys have two rules for two different players. You hype one guy to the moon and discard others like a tissue paper after 2-3 bad outings. :inti
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Actually KL's case was different.

He did hav an issue but it wasnt as glaring as Shaw and due to his past performance, people expected him to come good.

Which he did in final test in eng.

But when he continued his poor form in Aus, fans were ok with him being dropped.

Shaw on the other hand couldnt last 3 deliveries so fans asked him to be dropped.

Or else they would hav backed him too.

You aint exposing anyone's hypocrisy mate.

You might think that way in your mind but you are just exposing yours with false equivalences, and inconsistent logic.

Your inability to perceive why we lost 2019 WC when we have a mountain of match data leading upto it speaks volumes.

Not meaning to be rude but keep thinking you are being the right one whereas everyone else are idiots...i am sure there will be some "wonderful" posters (as scarce few as they might be) who will cheerlead you and give you a false sense of you being in the right.

Some introspection would do a world of good bud.
 
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Well on his way to becoming the GOAT WK batsman. He is three levels above all other WK batsmen in the world today.

It is not their fault because he is a once in a century talent. You will have to wait for a hundred years to see a player of his talents emerge.

This drama of him being a poor WK will also end in tears. Give him a couple of years and he will be the best WK in the world as well.
 
Scored 97 at SCG and gave India a chance in that Test.
Played arguably one of the finest innings at The Gabba - 89* in a run-chase.
Played a counterattacking 91 in Chennai & scored a fifty in 2nd Test.
Once again Key knock here today 101.

Rishabh Pant has matured a lot as a Test cricketer.
 
Mamoon said:
Well on his way to becoming the GOAT WK batsman. He is three levels above all other WK batsmen in the world today.

It is not their fault because he is a once in a century talent. You will have to wait for a hundred years to see a player of his talents emerge.

This drama of him being a poor WK will also end in tears. Give him a couple of years and he will be the best WK in the world as well.
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Why do you feel he will be the best pure WK in the world?

Confidence?
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Actually KL's case was different.

He did hav an issue but it wasnt as glaring as Shaw and due to his past performance, people expected him to come good.

Which he did in final test in eng.

But when he continued his poor form in Aus, fans were ok with him being dropped.

Shaw on the other hand couldnt last 3 deliveries so fans asked him to be dropped.

Or else they would hav backed him too.

You aint exposing anyone's hypocrisy mate.

You might think that way in your mind but you are just exposing yours with false equivalences, and inconsistent logic.

Your inability to perceive why we lost 2019 WC whej you have a mountain of match data leading upto it speaks volumes.

Not meaning to be rude but keep thinking you are being the right one whereas everyone else are idiots...i am sure there will be some "wonderful" posters (as scarce few as they might be) who will cheerlead you and give you a false sense of you being in the right.

Some introspection would do a world of good bud.
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Lol it's actually you guys who think their opinion matters the most and others can't have an opinion different to theirs. I don't go around this forum, dig old posts, quote them and mock people that "hey, you were wrong, I was right" few months after that post was originally made. I actually laugh at those who do such things and always question why didn't they reply at that time.

Anyone can clearly see you are trying too hard to force your opinion on me regarding Indias world cup loss. When I talk about blaming Pandya and Pant, I only talk about that semi final match where these two were promoted up the order by the team management and both of them failed. Everyone knew Dhoni in that match wasn't the Dhoni of 2005. It was upto team management to decide his batting order. Had they sent him above Pant or Pandya the result would have been different but they invested in the big hitting batsman who flopped badly in that match. And they were my villains for that loss. Whether you agree with my opinion or not I don't care but asking people to introspect just because they don't think like you shows you are not open to other's opinion. It kind of reminds me of how bhakhts think and I know you aren't one.

Also I don't know what do you mean by some posters cheerlead you blah blah lol? You are a good poster but sometimes you become too childish. I just post my opinion here and hardly care about what anyone else thinks. I won't ve the one who will come under the pressure of a group of individuals or a mob either. Just chill and don't bring these useless things into discussions. :inti
 
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