The Talibanization/Arabization of Pakistan

[Nostalgic]

Jinnah was a Khoja (Gujrati Shia) himself.

I’m curious if Khojas are all seveners. Are they also Ismailis or a different offshoot?

 

[Pakistanian]

Jinnah was a Khoja (Gujrati Shia) himself.

He switched to twelverism when he was very young.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

I’m curious if Khojas are all seveners. Are they also Ismailis or a different offshoot?

[MENTION=142256]Pakistanian[/MENTION]

Guys, all Khojas are twelvers.
Also Ithna-Asheri Shia (twelvers) are the mainstream and majority (about 90%+). Ismailis are next. Alawites and Nusayri aren't technically Shi'a and very few in number (mostly concentrated near Syria and some Kurdish regions).

 

[InziRules]

[MENTION=142256]Pakistanian[/MENTION]

Guys, all Khojas are twelvers.
Also Ithna-Asheri Shia (twelvers) are the mainstream and majority (about 90%+). Ismailis are next. Alawites and Nusayri aren't technically Shi'a and very few in number (mostly concentrated near Syria and some Kurdish regions).

Alawites and Nusayri are the Assad ones, right? The ones following the Khariji way?

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Alawites and Nusayri are the Assad ones, right? The ones following the Khariji way?

Yeah but I'm not sure if they follow the Khariji way. Include Druze in that group as well.
Also, Nusayri's God is Ali AS, that I know for sure.

 

[Pakistanian]

Yeah but I'm not sure if they follow the Khariji way. Include Druze in that group as well.
Also, Nusayri's God is Ali AS, that I know for sure.

what about zaidi's in oman?

 

[Nostalgic]

what about zaidi's in oman?

Zaidiya are the ultimate Sushi: Sunni and Shia, yet neither Sunni nor Shia. From what I’ve read, they revere Ali more than the other caliphs but are doctrinally closer to Sunnis. If true, that’s sort of what I would be if I were to label myself.

 

[Nostalgic]

Also I think the Zaidiyya are in Yemen. The ones in Oman are Ibaadis, who are a moderate offshoot of the original Kharijis.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Also I think the Zaidiyya are in Yemen. The ones in Oman are Ibaadis, who are a moderate offshoot of the original Kharijis.

That is mostly true. The Ibaadis are the closest thing you have to Kharijis.
Zaidiyya are the fivers and basically Sunnis tbh.

 

[Pakistanian]

That is mostly true. The Ibaadis are the closest thing you have to Kharijis.
Zaidiyya are the fivers and basically Sunnis tbh.

who are the houthis? why is iran in yemen?

 

[Musakhel]

Zaidiya are the ultimate Sushi: Sunni and Shia, yet neither Sunni nor Shia. From what I’ve read, they revere Ali more than the other caliphs but are doctrinally closer to Sunnis. If true, that’s sort of what I would be if I were to label myself.

Do you believe Ali is greater than All the prophets Except Nabi Muhammad ( SAW)?, that is what twelvers believe

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

who are the houthis? why is iran in yemen?

Houthis are Zaidiyya and against the Saudi Salafist regime (rightfully so if you ask me) and since Iran loves a proxy that opposes KSA, it is fully supporting Houthi rebels there.

 

[Nostalgic]

Do you believe Ali is greater than All the prophets Except Nabi Muhammad ( SAW)?, that is what twelvers believe

I didn’t say I would be a twelver.

 

[razazaidi]

Do you believe Ali is greater than All the prophets Except Nabi Muhammad ( SAW)?, that is what twelvers believe

Sorry, but that is not true.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Houthis are Zaidiyya and against the Saudi Salafist regime (rightfully so if you ask me) and since Iran loves a proxy that opposes KSA, it is fully supporting Houthi rebels there.

That's working out well so far.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Jinnah was a Khoja (Gujrati Shia) himself.

I think his outlook on religion changed after meeting iqbal
He always thought the Caliphate movement was too extreme by the likes of mohammed ali sbowkat

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

That's working out well so far.

To be fair
Saudi Arabia has no business poking their nose in Yemeni politics. Yemen is no match for KSA in terms of economy, wealth or diplomacy. Atleast the Houthi rebels are faithful to Yemeni interests.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Sorry, but that is not true.

Gosh here we go again

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

To be fair
Saudi Arabia has no business poking their nose in Yemeni politics. Yemen is no match for KSA in terms of economy, wealth or diplomacy. Atleast the Houthi rebels are faithful to Yemeni interests.

You said Iran loves a proxy war that opposes KSA, so I guess they are also poking their noses into Yemen business. I don't see how you justify one if you are criticising the other.

 

[Pakistanian]

To be fair
Saudi Arabia has no business poking their nose in Yemeni politics. Yemen is no match for KSA in terms of economy, wealth or diplomacy. Atleast the Houthi rebels are faithful to Yemeni interests.

Saudi and Iran should both stay out of Yemen.

 

[saeedhk]

Saudi Arabia is the aggressor in Yemen. The Saudis have been hiding their military loses. Judging by Youtube videos of fighting between Saudi-backed coalition and Houthis, I guess at least 10000 coalition troops have been killed and at least 1000 fighting vehicles destroyed.

There are videos of bare-footed Yemenis firing bazookas from a distance of 30 meters at Saudi armoured vehicles.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Saudi Arabia is the aggressor in Yemen. The Saudis have been hiding their military loses. Judging by Youtube videos of fighting between Saudi-backed coalition and Houthis, I guess at least 10000 coalition troops have been killed and at least 1000 fighting vehicles destroyed.

There are videos of bare-footed Yemenis firing bazookas from a distance of 30 meters at Saudi armoured vehicles.

Yemen should have appealed to NATO or UN for intervention rather than the evil Iranian regime which has crippled Iran with it's religious revolution.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

You said Iran loves a proxy war that opposes KSA, so I guess they are also poking their noses into Yemen business. I don't see how you justify one if you are criticising the other.

When did I justify Iran's presence?

I was saying that the Saudis should've left Yemen alone instead of opening another frontier for a confrontation with Iran.