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Bhaijaan said:
They have Japanese, Mexican and now even African appealing wrestlers and yet no Pakistani, Indian or Arab guy when they collectively make up a huge chunk of its global fanbase.
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They tried propping up Jinder Mahal to some extent. They mismanaged Mustafa Ali who would have been perfect.

Sami is a Syrian Canadian , might count as Arab.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Sami is turning heel i think.
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Doubt it. With the next WrestleMania in Saudi, he might do some heel tactics but it's easier for him to slot back into the bloodline story and then have get him a championship match heading into WrestleMania.

The long burn is for Sami to win the championship.
 
shaz619 said:
It was for sure the best WM main-event since WM 26, stylistically the match resembled HBK v Taker 1 but with their own adaptation of that. Punk worked extremely hard & it was set up for them to go 50/50, but it shouldn’t take away from Reigns who had the ring IQ and match awareness to play off that & use Punk’s creativity because a lot of the unique spots came from him, if Reigns was trying to match the same work-rate or creativity, the story wouldn’t have worked as well or back fired (See Triple H trying to be Ricky Steamboat against Reigns at WM), he had to be the Heavyweight or a say Marvin Hagler & Punk more or less in the role of Tommy Hearns.
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Roman can't have good matches with everyone. I remember his stinkers against bray Wyatt.

Not taking away anything from Roman but he probably needs someone like Punk , Rollins , McIntyre and Rhodes to have a good match. The above 4 can have bangers with just about anyone. Roman is a bit restrictive in that regard. A great wrestler but the way he's booked makes him look better than he is.

The match between Roman and Bronson literally sucked and both were good wrestlers. Same goes with a hypothetical match against bron breakker etc.
 
sithb said:
They tried propping up Jinder Mahal to some extent. They mismanaged Mustafa Ali who would have been perfect.

Sami is a Syrian Canadian , might count as Arab.
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They should have got Khana baba and Iranian Hulk at their prime. A lost opportunity.
 
sithb said:
Roman can't have good matches with everyone. I remember his stinkers against bray Wyatt.

Not taking away anything from Roman but he probably needs someone like Punk , Rollins , McIntyre and Rhodes to have a good match. The above 4 can have bangers with just about anyone. Roman is a bit restrictive in that regard. A great wrestler but the way he's booked makes him look better than he is.

The match between Roman and Bronson literally sucked and both were good wrestlers. Same goes with a hypothetical match against bron breakker etc.
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Roman is vastly improved from the worker he was 10-15 years ago, I had no issue with that Bronson match, people don’t see wrestling has many styles, he is the best technical brawler in the business & his selling has always been outstanding, Roman isn’t the kind of guy that needs to be carried by others, he got a decent match out of a green Logan Paul of all people. Punk is one of the all time great performers in every category, but that shouldn’t detract from Roman who still needs to have the ring IQ to set-up a big match and be authentic with his striking. Rollins? That guy can’t even work safely, he had one of the worst mid-card matches I’ve ever seen recently, a vastly overrated wrestler really and all his stuff looks so weak.
 
Oba Femi's walk has turned into a meme. People are copying this. :yk

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sithb said:
Roman can't have good matches with everyone. I remember his stinkers against bray Wyatt.

Not taking away anything from Roman but he probably needs someone like Punk , Rollins , McIntyre and Rhodes to have a good match. The above 4 can have bangers with just about anyone. Roman is a bit restrictive in that regard. A great wrestler but the way he's booked makes him look better than he is.

The match between Roman and Bronson literally sucked and both were good wrestlers. Same goes with a hypothetical match against bron breakker etc.
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rollins has injured more guys in wwe than many in their entire ufc career. It’s a miracle that he hasn’t broken Becky’s hand by just holding it.
 
Suleiman said:
His entrance theme and this walk is too goofy. I’m a fan. But they need to bill him as the threat he is and that means eliminating cartoon baazi like this
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Agree with this assessment. This walk doesn't fit well with his gimmick. He is supposed to be a big/scary guy.
 
Suleiman said:
His entrance theme and this walk is too goofy. I’m a fan. But they need to bill him as the threat he is and that means eliminating cartoon baazi like this
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sweep_shot said:
Agree with this assessment. This walk doesn't fit well with his gimmick. He is supposed to be a big/scary guy.
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This is the issue with H’s booking, he”ll take a superstar of Shawn , and while in this case for the most part Oba has been handled well, traditionally due to H’s huge ego, he will try to repackage everything that was working well in NXT.

On the surface that strut seems goofy, but in NXT Shawn explained the backstory to it through Oba, he wanted him to embrace his roots in a way which would help him really get in synch with his gimmick.

The strut/walk which Oba does is what Yoruba tribes would do before tribal warfare / combat, because some don’t get it Oba just says it’s a spin on Flair’s strut - I bet he got that idea from H who probably thinks the whole world is racist like him. When you look at it as a war dance, it just gives a completely different perspective & I’d say it becomes a lot more menacing.

Also, @Suleiman AJ fans think he is as Nigerian as Oba Femi, when really he’s just a plastic gangster who use to sell a bit of weed on the side
 
shaz619 said:
This is the issue with H’s booking, he”ll take a superstar of Shawn , and while in this case for the most part Oba has been handled well, traditionally due to H’s huge ego, he will try to repackage everything that was working well in NXT.

On the surface that strut seems goofy, but in NXT Shawn explained the backstory to it through Oba, he wanted him to embrace his roots in a way which would help him really get in synch with his gimmick.

The strut/walk which Oba does is what Yoruba tribes would do before tribal warfare / combat, because some don’t get it Oba just says it’s a spin on Flair’s strut - I bet he got that idea from H who probably thinks the whole world is racist like him. When you look at it as a war dance, it just gives a completely different perspective & I’d say it becomes a lot more menacing.

Also, @Suleiman AJ fans think he is as Nigerian as Oba Femi, when really he’s just a plastic gangster who use to sell a bit of weed on the side
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If that’s the backstory then that’s actually really nice. Man I wish they had titantrons still so they maybe could’ve thrown a quick clip of the Yoruba tribe doing it and with some light displays etc coulda really propped him up. H this goofball had all the disco lights in the world for his entrance and titantron that made his entrance- stripped all current stars of those things

I am just paranoid of H burying any person of color or foreign roots whether African, Far East Asian, Arab or Muslim

AJ fans think being Nigerian is going by the Nigerian restaurant once every few months to have fufu
 
shaz619 said:
This is the issue with H’s booking, he”ll take a superstar of Shawn , and while in this case for the most part Oba has been handled well, traditionally due to H’s huge ego, he will try to repackage everything that was working well in NXT.

On the surface that strut seems goofy, but in NXT Shawn explained the backstory to it through Oba, he wanted him to embrace his roots in a way which would help him really get in synch with his gimmick.

The strut/walk which Oba does is what Yoruba tribes would do before tribal warfare / combat, because some don’t get it Oba just says it’s a spin on Flair’s strut - I bet he got that idea from H who probably thinks the whole world is racist like him. When you look at it as a war dance, it just gives a completely different perspective & I’d say it becomes a lot more menacing.

Also, @Suleiman AJ fans think he is as Nigerian as Oba Femi, when really he’s just a plastic gangster who use to sell a bit of weed on the side
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I see. Didn't know this was a tribal thing.

Thanks for the explanation.
 
sithb said:
Roman can't have good matches with everyone. I remember his stinkers against bray Wyatt.

Not taking away anything from Roman but he probably needs someone like Punk , Rollins , McIntyre and Rhodes to have a good match. The above 4 can have bangers with just about anyone. Roman is a bit restrictive in that regard. A great wrestler but the way he's booked makes him look better than he is.

The match between Roman and Bronson literally sucked and both were good wrestlers. Same goes with a hypothetical match against bron breakker etc.
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Roman is actually among the most consistently good wrestlers in the world. Roman of 2015-16 was very new to the business and so was Bray but even then the HIAC with Bray was a very good match. A lot of his matches from his previous gimmick are criticized because of the character dynamics and him winning when everything pointed towards him not. Even then his in ring work and selling was on point.
Roman got great matches out of logan, jey, jimmy, etc
 
Suleiman said:
If that’s the backstory then that’s actually really nice. Man I wish they had titantrons still so they maybe could’ve thrown a quick clip of the Yoruba tribe doing it and with some light displays etc coulda really propped him up. H this goofball had all the disco lights in the world for his entrance and titantron that made his entrance- stripped all current stars of those things

I am just paranoid of H burying any person of color or foreign roots whether African, Far East Asian, Arab or Muslim

AJ fans think being Nigerian is going by the Nigerian restaurant once every few months to have fufu
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An example here, just him incorporating his roots into it, they wont allow him to give the true origins due to racism & image of it being pushed now as a baby face thing they want to monetise:


Plus the nerds of this era are the biggest casual marks in history, they think wrestling is one bit concert and as such TKO have exploited that to the max.

Punk/Reigns should have had the same atmosphere of the Taker/Shawn matches or even Punk/Taker - the latter is another great example of Punk fighting from underneath - it doesn’t make the legendary Taker any inferior, the legends who don’t have huge ego’s and love this business will have the IQ to do what’s best in the ring, in comparison watch H trying to outwork Reigns at WM and ending up getting himself caught in his trademark tangle and putting the entire stadium to sleep or when he decided to have some sort of clinical wrestling affair with Orton just to try and one up HBK/Shawn - legitimately killing all the heat of 09 Orton
 
shaz619 said:
An example here, just him incorporating his roots into it, they wont allow him to give the true origins due to racism & image of it being pushed now as a baby face thing they want to monetise:


Plus the nerds of this era are the biggest casual marks in history, they think wrestling is one bit concert and as such TKO have exploited that to the max.

Punk/Reigns should have had the same atmosphere of the Taker/Shawn matches or even Punk/Taker - the latter is another great example of Punk fighting from underneath - it doesn’t make the legendary Taker any inferior, the legends who don’t have huge ego’s and love this business will have the IQ to do what’s best in the ring, in comparison watch H trying to outwork Reigns at WM and ending up getting himself caught in his trademark tangle and putting the entire stadium to sleep or when he decided to have some sort of clinical wrestling affair with Orton just to try and one up HBK/Shawn - legitimately killing all the heat of 09 Orton
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Him inserting himself into the WM match between Orton and Cena was one of the worst booking decisions of all time. Orton and Cena at their respective peaks would’ve had an even better match without this two bit sifarishi parchi bum making a triple threat. Felt like Mickey Mouse trying to force himself in between Thanos and Hulk.
 
Oba Femi has been a breathe of fresh air. He gives off attitude era/ruthless aggression era vibe. Much better than many cringy modern day wrestlers.

He should be the world champion soon. A lengthy run perhaps.

I think it is fair to say Brock Lesnar has officially propeled him to a main event level. Kudos to Brock.
 
Suleiman said:
His entrance theme and this walk is too goofy. I’m a fan. But they need to bill him as the threat he is and that means eliminating cartoon baazi like this
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Nah, its alright. It gives off a tribal/war dance feel which I have always found cool whenever I saw the NZ Rugby players do it. What makes it work is that its different and unique. The music works because it gets people to chant "Oba...Oba...Oba". As I said before, you are going to see football players, MMA fighters imitating this walk... it will become iconic.
 
sithb said:
Roman can't have good matches with everyone. I remember his stinkers against bray Wyatt.

Not taking away anything from Roman but he probably needs someone like Punk , Rollins , McIntyre and Rhodes to have a good match. The above 4 can have bangers with just about anyone. Roman is a bit restrictive in that regard. A great wrestler but the way he's booked makes him look better than he is.

The match between Roman and Bronson literally sucked and both were good wrestlers. Same goes with a hypothetical match against bron breakker etc.
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BunnyRabbit said:
Roman is actually among the most consistently good wrestlers in the world. Roman of 2015-16 was very new to the business and so was Bray but even then the HIAC with Bray was a very good match. A lot of his matches from his previous gimmick are criticized because of the character dynamics and him winning when everything pointed towards him not. Even then his in ring work and selling was on point.
Roman got great matches out of logan, jey, jimmy, etc
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Roman is good. But he is not on the great level as an in-ring worker, and is neither consistently good. That's not a knock on him but just a realistic reflection of his abilities. Because he has been in the main-event for the past 6 years we have consistently seen him work with the best of the best. But most of his matches are 'Roman Reigns matches' i.e. the other wrestlers are trying to work his style of match, rather than the other way around. Ofcourse you will always have exceptions like this Punk match, which are just great wrestling matches period, but people shouldn't forget the run Reigns had before 2020, which included some of the all-time worst Mania events like Brock v Reigns, Taker v Reigns, HHH v Reigns..
 
@shaz619 I missed your Darby Allin comments, because I hadn't caught up with Dynamite and the PPV. Now that I have, I'll say that I understand where you're coming from, but I didn't think this was that bad. I probably wouldn't have done it this way and would have saved it for a PPV in Seattle. But I didn't mind it that much for the simple reason that I think MJF will win the belt back at the next PPV. Just logically trying to sketch this out keeping in mind their big show at Wembley in the summer, I feel it has to be MJF v Will Ospreay in the main-event for the World title. And with their next PPV in New York, I'm fairly certain MJF will win the belt back.

Looking at this, it felt alot like they wanted to give Darby his moment in his hometown. It felt really spontaneous and something you didn't see coming. And honestly for a guy who has given as much to AEW as Darby (literally) I'm okay with him having his moment. It reminded me in a way of that Mick Foley title win on RAW, where it was more about him finally winning the big one and having that moment, than him holding the belt for particularly long. I think it's going to be the same with Darby. He will lose the belt within a month. Which is okay because it doesn't make sense for an underdog like him to have a long title reign anyway.
 
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