"This Pakistani team doesn't have it in them to compete with the Indian team" : Harbhajan Singh

[MenInG]

"This Pakistani team doesn't have it in them to compete with the Indian team" : Harbhajan Singh

Captain Rohit Sharma and his deputy Shikhar Dhawan hit astonishing centuries to steer Team India to a resounding nine-wicket win over a listless Pakistan in their Asia Cup Super Four clash in Dubai on Sunday. The stellar show by Rohit and Dhawan saw India overhaul the target with 10.3 overs to spare. After India's victory, India veteran off-spinner Harbhajan Singh hailed Rohit and Dhawan's performance in the tournament and the arch-rivals Pakistan and also said this Pakistani team can't compete with the Indian team.

"There's a big difference between these two teams. This Pakistani team doesn't have it in them to compete with the Indian team. They were only playing the game but not to win. India are the No.1 contender to win the Asia Cup. India remain the favourites," Harbhajan was quoted as saying by India Today.

Rohit scored a 119-ball 111 not out for his 19th one-day international century while Dhawan made a 100-ball 114 for his 15th century. The duo put on 210 for the opening stand -- second best in all India-Pakistan one-day internationals.

"Rohit is a class apart. Shikhar is a very talented batsman. The kind of bowling attack we have it's tough to compete against us. India have the experience...MS Dhoni, Rohit, Dhawan, Bumrah, Bhuvneshwar and even Ambati Rayudu," Harbhajan, who played 236 ODIs for India, said.

The win is India's highest against Pakistan in terms of wickets, improving on the eight-wicket win over Pakistan in Melbourne in 1985.

Pakistan were steered to 237-7 by Shoaib Malik who made a 90-ball 78 after winning the toss and batting but it proved too little for the strong Indian batting line.

"In Pakistan, barring Shoaib Malik there's no other player who has this kind of exposure. That is the difference between the two teams," he added.

Bangladesh beat Afghanistan by three runs in a last-ball finish in Abu Dhabi which meant India sailed into the September 28 final in Dubai.

https://sports.ndtv.com/asia-cup-20...mpete-with-india-says-harbhajan-singh-1921519

 

[Pete Rose]

harsh but fair

 

[Buffet]

Nah, it's not fair. How much different this Pakistani team is from CT team?

 

[Ned Flanders]

Nah, it's not fair. How much different this Pakistani team is from CT team?

No Azhar Ali, Junaid Khan, Mohammad Hafeez, Imad Wasim + Fakhar not firing.

 

[the_outsider]

Nah, it's not fair. How much different this Pakistani team is from CT team?

India had a 120 run win over Pak there too.

Pak has really had 1 good game against Ind in the last 7-8 games over the last 5 years.

Nobody is saying Pak can't beat Ind. They can. But it happens only once in a while nowadays. It's far from an even contest now.

 

[Usman Chadda]

I hope our boys get to read some of the comments that have been thrown around in the media since yesterday

 

[Tyler Durden]

I hope our boys get to read some of the comments that have been thrown around in the media since yesterday

Why should they check out media comments when your own Captain and Coach are stating that it's a reality check and "India's skill-level is high and we are not quite there"? Can it get any worse than this when your own captain is admitting it openly and throwing such statements? What would it do to the morale of the teammates? Is this how a Captain talks about his own team in public?

 

[Pete Rose]

I hope our boys get to read some of the comments that have been thrown around in the media since yesterday

I too would like to believe that some how our players will become world beaters because of their izzat.
The truth is in executing under pressure. The only way to execute under pressure is to keep working hard until it becomes part of your muscle memory. I will repeat, fakhar was doing that yesterday.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Why should they check out media comments when your own Captain and Coach are stating that it's a reality check and "India's skill-level is high and we are not quite there"? Can it get any worse than this when your own captain is admitting it openly and throwing such statements? What would it do to the morale of the teammates? Is this how a Captain talks about his own team in public?

Taken out of context, he meant the skill levels in the current game were not at par with India. Mickey's comments were also taken out of context.

They deserve all the criticism they are getting right now, though. The media has absolutely massacred the team.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Thing is all these comments were made by Ganguly etc before the CT final. Hope they don't come back to bite them again.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

I think we take these games too seriously to actually enjoy and win them. We take the reputations of the Indian players too seriously to actually devise any plan because in their minds our players have already resigned themselves to the Indian players’ technical superiority. That changes in the tournament finals because to our players the thing at stake is not to achieve technical superiority but to give it all and win the cup, throwing every other thought out of their minds.

 

[Sirris]

The stage is all set for another repeat of CT17 final.

 

[MenInG]

harsh but fair

He is only stating facts based on past 2 games. What happens in the 3rd (possible) game is something else.

 

[Buffet]

India had a 120 run win over Pak there too.

Pak has really had 1 good game against Ind in the last 7-8 games over the last 5 years.

Nobody is saying Pak can't beat Ind. They can. But it happens only once in a while nowadays. It's far from an even contest now.

Pakistan in CT had more than one good game. India is certainty a better team no matter what happens in 1-2 game, but some of the statements are harsh.

 

[Itachi]

To those getting offended, it simply means Pak can win but more probability is on India's side.

So of course Pakistan can win the final. But Between these two teams, India will win more than Pakistan.

 

[JaDed]

Lol now we will.lose the final coz PAK is not favs anymore

 

[Bhaijaan]

Had a Pakistani said it it would have sounded fair but many people will call this arrogant coming from an Indian. Don't think Bhajju is that kind.

 

[MenInG]

Not sure who is offended. Everyone is agreeing with him!

 

[the_outsider]

Pakistan in CT had more than one good game. India is certainty a better team no matter what happens in 1-2 game, but some of the statements are harsh.

You have to look beyond that 1-month window in which CT17. If CT17 is the only achievement of a team then how can they be a quality team?

I saw stats earlier that since 2016, Pak's win % against WI, BD, SL, ZIM, IRE, AFG & SCO is 95%.
Against IND, AUS, ENG, SA & NZ it drops down to 22%.

That suggests that while Pak is a decent middle-of-the-table team that can beat big teams once in a while. But clearly, they are a notch below IND, AUS, ENG, SA & NZ.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

You have to look beyond that 1-month window in which CT17. If CT17 is the only achievement of a team then how can they be a quality team?

I saw stats earlier that since 2016, Pak's win % against WI, BD, SL, ZIM, IRE, AFG & SCO is 95%.
Against IND, AUS, ENG, SA & NZ it drops down to 22%.

That suggests that while Pak is a decent middle-of-the-table team that can beat big teams once in a while. But clearly, they are a notch below IND, AUS, ENG, SA & NZ.

But that doesnt make sense.

If Pakistan is indeed a team that can beat major teams once in a while how did it string up 4 consecutive wins against major teams to win the final??

Either they are good but incosistent at times.

Or they fluked 4 consecutive matches.

If the 2nd statement, are you willing to put your reputation on the line that Pakistan wont win the Asia Cup??

 

[the_outsider]

Pakistan in CT had more than one good game. India is certainty a better team no matter what happens in 1-2 game, but some of the statements are harsh.

You have to look beyond that 1-month window in which CT17. If CT17 is the only achievement of a team then how can they be a quality team?

I saw stats earlier that since 2016, Pak's win % against WI, BD, SL, ZIM, IRE, AFG & SCO is 95%.
Against IND, AUS, ENG, SA & NZ it drops down to 22%.

That suggests that while Pak is a decent middle-of-the-table team that can beat big teams once in a while. But clearly, they are a notch below IND, AUS, ENG, SA & NZ.

But yes, I don't think there was any need for statements like this from Harbhajan.

 

[the_outsider]

But that doesnt make sense.

If Pakistan is indeed a team that can beat major teams once in a while how did it string up 4 consecutive wins against major teams to win the final??

Either they are good but incosistent at times.

Or they fluked 4 consecutive matches.

If the 2nd statement, are you willing to put your reputation on the line that Pakistan wont win the Asia Cup??

The first thing I said in my post is that the fans have to stop clinging on the CT so much. Look at the performance of the team beyond that one month window.

West Indies won the CT in 2004. Do you or anyone else remember them as a great team? Performing in one tournament is not enough. The team has to maintain that standard throughout.

Pak played very good cricket in CT17, no doubt. But they have been below-par on either side of it.

 

[pakistani pride]

Now the team needs to step up. Its time.
If they want to move forward they NEED to win next 2 games.

 

[El Generico]

He should have waited till the end of this week to make this comment. Usually its not a good idea to celebrate while the tournament is still alive.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

The first thing I said in my post is that the fans have to stop clinging on the CT so much. Look at the performance of the team beyond that one month window.

West Indies won the CT in 2004. Do you or anyone else remember them as a great team? Performing in one tournament is not enough. The team has to maintain that standard throughout.

Pak played very good cricket in CT17, no doubt. But they have been below-par on either side of it.

And if they win the final against India?

Then what would you say?

 

[shokz1408]

Okay, now the Indian ex players are talking. We are going in as underdogs, let's do it this time!

 

[the_outsider]

He should have waited till the end of this week to make this comment. Usually its not a good idea to celebrate while the tournament is still alive.

That's the difference in mindset between the two sides. You think Bhajji is celebrating but he is not. He is just stating a fact. It's a bit rude and unnecessary but it's not like we are rejoicing about how Pak's game has dropped off in the last decade.

I don't know if you are too young to know how much fan-following Pakistani players of 80s, 90s and 00s had in India.

Nobody is taking pleasure in the fact that a team that once had 5-6 world class players at one point is now struggling to put 2 on the field. I don't want to rub salt into wounds. And Pak might still end up winning the Cup. But the fact is that the quality of Pakistani cricketers have regressed a lot in the last 6 years.

 

[the_outsider]

And if they win the final against India?

Then what would you say?

I will say the same thing. That's my point. Pak will beat these big teams once every 4-5 times. But if you think that is enough to think that they are the better team than I don't know what else I can tell you.

I will be very surprised if Pak wins the final though.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I will say the same thing. That's my point. Pak will beat these big teams once every 4-5 times. But if you think that is enough to think that they are the better team than I don't know what else I can tell you.

I will be very surprised if Pak wins the final though.

Does it even matter if you whomp us in every un important game if we keep winning the finals?

You mean to say you would still claim Pakistan is worse than India if they lifted the second cup in 2 years?

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

If ppl think that we are going to beat India in the final then they live in a la la land. We’ll have to beat Bangladesh to get into the final which is very unlikely. We have not only been poor in batting and bowling but also in the fielding. If we field the way we have fielded in the last couple of matches then I don’t see us getting into the final.

 

[rhony]

Anyone remember those days when Pakistan used to smash India everywhere but would lose in the world cups. It was inexplicable. I believe the Pakistani fans are hoping the same would happen now in reverse. CT final was a major fluke. How many times have you seen Pakistan score 300 against top teams, let alone 340? Indian batting imploding the way they did is also rare with Kohli getting out twice in 2 balls. People keep hanging on to it and then look at the way Zimababwe was smashed by Pak batsmen and are somehow sure that Pakistan is just one catch away or one hit away from prime form. No, they are not. India has good plans for Fakhar and he is the only one in the team that can help Pak get to 300. Indian bowling is better. Even though Indian middle order is crap, they can chase down sub par scores with ease as they have experience.

 

[the_outsider]

Does it even matter if you whomp us in every un important game if we keep winning the finals?

You mean to say you would still claim Pakistan is worse than India if they lifted the second cup in 2 years?

Yes. And so would every non-jazbaati expert of the game.

 

[rhony]

Yes. And so would every non-jazbaati expert of the game.

Lol. No. Winning the final matters and that's what counts. But I believe it's not as simple as flipping a switch as some Pakistani posters here are wishing though.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Yes. And so would every non-jazbaati expert of the game.

And you would even claim that if you were beaten in World Cup semi final or final 3rd time, because you won the pointless group game and Super Six game.

Now its easy to say who is biased about his country.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Both Bhajji and Vikrant Gupta was embarrassing us last night. There is no middle ground for these guys. When we were losing in Eng, they were pretending as if all over for ICT. Now since we are winning, they are mocking opponents. Indian Media for you.

 

[proud_pakistani]

Fact is 7/10 times India is going to beat Pakistan. Its not hard to understand why.

1 - India all year round plays tough opponents like Australia, England, NZ etc. Pakistan on the other hand is playing Zimbabwe, West Indies, Srilanka. Even when we play the bigger teams we are not getting 5 match series

2 - India is the Real Madrid/Barcelona of cricket, the real money makers. They keep re-investing that money so India has better facilities than Pakistan

3 - IPL>PSL

4- Pakistan does not play any matches on home turf. This has negatively affected us and our confidence level. We are playing in Dubai which is our adopted home ground and yet it seems like we are playing in Wankhede.

We may have won Champions Trophy final convincingly and I thought maybe this fear of playing India is gone, but it still very much exists. Dropping catches shows a lack of confidence more than anything else. Pakistan still has some talented players and on some days they will bring their A game and Pakistan will win but will lack consistency the way India does.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I agree that the current Indian team is miles ahead of the Pakistan team but this is an exaggerated and harsh statement

 

[A-1]

This is what he said before the champions league final

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[cricketAXEpert]

Nah, it's not fair. How much different this Pakistani team is from CT team?

Mohammad Hafeez his Late Middle Order Batting is much better than Asif Ali (who looks like a poor man's Shahid Afridi), Azhar Ali (He should atleast be in the the squad instead of Shan Masood), Junaid Khan (he could do no worse than the ones we tried so far). Imad Wasim (he is not fully fit but he played that wonderful little cameo with Hafeez in CT final ).

 

[the_outsider]

Both Bhajji and Vikrant Gupta was embarrassing us last night. There is no middle ground for these guys. When we were losing in Eng, they were pretending as if all over for ICT. Now since we are winning, they are mocking opponents. Indian Media for you.

True.

 

[the_outsider]

And you would even claim that if you were beaten in World Cup semi final or final 3rd time, because you won the pointless group game and Super Six game.

Now its easy to say who is biased about his country.

Now you have gone from Asia Cup to World Cup. You don't have to put words in my mouth. I will stick to what I have said. If you're going to stretch the argument till it stops making sense, then that's on you.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Now you have gone from Asia Cup to World Cup. You don't have to put words in my mouth. I will stick to what I have said. If you're going to stretch the argument till it stops making sense, then that's on you.

I am not saying anything.

You just said winning the finals doesnt matter as long as India continues winning more.

Or correct me if I am wrong?

 

[Savak]

It is better to be the underdog than favorites. By now it is clear that in Pak India matches the team is the clear underdog, why not use that to your advantage?

Hope the legendary khan as PM gives the team a phone call or video message to get their spirits and morale up just like he did in the 1992 WC.

 

[Savak]

There were 2 occasions when the Indians were red hot favorites against a weak inexperienced Pakistani team and lost the series i.e. the 1998 Sahara Cup and the 2005 tour to India.

 

[the_outsider]

I am not saying anything.

You just said winning the finals doesnt matter as long as India continues winning more.

Or correct me if I am wrong?

Yes, if you think that if Pak somehow manages to beat Ind in the final of the Asia Cup then both teams are in the same league then you will be wrong.

There is a big gulf in quality between Pak and Ind/Eng/NZ right now. A win in the final is highly unlikely for Pak but even if that happens it won't change anything. That gulf still remains.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Yes, if you think that if Pak somehow manages to beat Ind in the final of the Asia Cup then both teams are in the same league then you will be wrong.

There is a big gulf in quality between Pak and Ind/Eng/NZ right now. A win in the final is highly unlikely for Pak but even if that happens it won't change anything. That gulf still remains.

So now answer the question.

Does the gulf even matter if Pakistan keeps plucking the silver ware?

Who cares if you win 10 ODI vs Pakistan but lose every time its a Trophy Final.

Are you sure you wanna go down the route of better team but no silver ware?

And if you do, how long does Pakistan keep having to win finals before you concede they are an IMPACT team and can win finals anytime.

 

[Ozeirk]

They can win those 10 ODI's, its still not going to change Pakistanis dominance on them head to head.

 

[the_outsider]

So now answer the question.

Does the gulf even matter if Pakistan keeps plucking the silver ware?

Who cares if you win 10 ODI vs Pakistan but lose every time its a Trophy Final.

Are you sure you wanna go down the route of better team but no silver ware?

And if you do, how long does Pakistan keep having to win finals before you concede they are an IMPACT team and can win finals anytime.

I think you're becoming way too farfetched now. There should be some common sense to the argument. No team that is average will constantly win trophies. You're bringing up an unrealistic hypothesis for argument's sake. Just because it has happened once doesn't mean it will happen every time. And Pak hasn't even made it to the finals yet. You should hold on to your theories till the 28th.

 

[Theo_14]

India had a 120 run win over Pak there too.

Pak has really had 1 good game against Ind in the last 7-8 games over the last 5 years.

Nobody is saying Pak can't beat Ind. They can. But it happens only once in a while nowadays. It's far from an even contest now.

Have to agree with this.

 

[Virat_Kohli_fan]

So now answer the question.

Does the gulf even matter if Pakistan keeps plucking the silver ware?

Who cares if you win 10 ODI vs Pakistan but lose every time its a Trophy Final.

Are you sure you wanna go down the route of better team but no silver ware?

And if you do, how long does Pakistan keep having to win finals before you concede they are an IMPACT team and can win finals anytime.

Not all trophies are created equal. If this was a world cup India would have played Kohli even if he was on a wheel chair. In a WC Indian fans would much rather have India lose 5 group games to Pakistan and win the final. That's not true of Asia Cup.

 

[Savak]

India is to the present Pakistani team what Australia and South Africa were to the Pakistani team in the 90's.

 

[Rana]

If ppl think that we are going to beat India in the final then they live in a la la land. We’ll have to beat Bangladesh to get into the final which is very unlikely. We have not only been poor in batting and bowling but also in the fielding. If we field the way we have fielded in the last couple of matches then I don’t see us getting into the final.

Some fans don’t deserve to be fans. You make Bangladesh sound like South Africa. This Bengali team is so wounded, if Pak can’t step it up against them then they really should change the entire set up before the World Cup

 

[Rana]

They can win those 10 ODI's, its still not going to change Pakistanis dominance on them head to head.

Does that H2H record even matter now? It’s pointless, this Indian team will only grow stronger and stronger with their resources

 

[Virat_Kohli_fan]

Does that H2H record even matter now? It’s pointless, this Indian team will only grow stronger and stronger with their resources

It matters to the Indian fans.

 

[Hawkeye]

We can compete.

There's a mental block right now, and there's also a skills gap.

We don't have Hafeez who really has it in him to bash IND with both bat and ball. Missing a good quality spinner - we have PLENTY not in the team.

And leader's a dud.

 

[Saj]

Too many Pakistani players under pressure and out of form at the moment.

When you have several key players struggling you will always find it hard to compete with the best teams.

 

[Pete Rose]

We can compete.

There's a mental block right now, and there's also a skills gap.

We don't have Hafeez who really has it in him to bash IND with both bat and ball. Missing a good quality spinner - we have PLENTY not in the team.

And leader's a dud.

Hafeez has only one innings of note in his entire career; the ct final. That’s it.

 

[PakLFC]

Bhaji is absolutely right. I can't think of many Pak players who at the moment will get in to the Indian side. Perhaps Shoaib Malik as he is on form. Our media will continue talking them up with "shaheen, shaheen" whilst on the field of play they are getting tanked!

 

[barah_admi]

harsh but fair

Not really. It was just two matches ago that Pakistan utterly annihilated India, it was the most one sided final in an ICC tournament.

Two matches later Pakistan can't compete? Get out of here with that rubbish.

For whatever reason, most likely poor preparation, back room strife (Mikey Arthur is famous for that) and poor pitches, Pak have not been at their best. It is also sad that Zaman seems to be out of form and Babar/Afridi have had some bad luck come their way.

It's what happens, it is a sport. When a side is young, these types of things can happen often and as many have long held, this tournament should be a practice point for Pak, regardless of wins and losses, the World Cup is what matters.

 

[Sachin136]

Not really. It was just two matches ago that Pakistan utterly annihilated India, it was the most one sided final in an ICC tournament.

Two matches later Pakistan can't compete? Get out of here with that rubbish.

For whatever reason, most likely poor preparation, back room strife (Mikey Arthur is famous for that) and poor pitches, Pak have not been at their best. It is also sad that Zaman seems to be out of form and Babar/Afridi have had some bad luck come their way.

It's what happens, it is a sport. When a side is young, these types of things can happen often and as many have long held, this tournament should be a practice point for Pak, regardless of wins and losses, the World Cup is what matters.

In the last 5 ODIs that they've played (going back to the 2015 world cup), these are the results:

India win by 76 runs
India win by 124 runs
Pakistan win by 180 runs
India win by 8 wickets
India win by 9 wickets

Clearly the CT final was an anomaly and India is thoroughly outclassing Pakistan at the moment.

 

[Ned Flanders]

In the last 5 ODIs that they've played (going back to the 2015 world cup), these are the results:

India win by 76 runs
India win by 124 runs
Pakistan win by 180 runs
India win by 8 wickets
India win by 9 wickets

Clearly the CT final was an anomaly and India is thoroughly outclassing Pakistan at the moment.

That means Pak wins the final.

 

[shokz1408]

That means Pak wins the final.

Lol yes that does seem to be the trend in the last 5 years, India has not won 3 games consistently.
2 wins India, one pak, 2 India, one pak?

 

[waleed88]

Nothing incites a revival like some harsh words from an Indian cricketer.... that is the only thing that fires up our players... Bhajji is not despised by our players as much as Sehwag was

 

[waleed88]

Hafeez has only one innings of note in his entire career; the ct final. That’s it.

Asia cup 2014, knockout vs India...

 

[Pete Rose]

Not really. It was just two matches ago that Pakistan utterly annihilated India, it was the most one sided final in an ICC tournament.

Two matches later Pakistan can't compete? Get out of here with that rubbish.

For whatever reason, most likely poor preparation, back room strife (Mikey Arthur is famous for that) and poor pitches, Pak have not been at their best. It is also sad that Zaman seems to be out of form and Babar/Afridi have had some bad luck come their way.

It's what happens, it is a sport. When a side is young, these types of things can happen often and as many have long held, this tournament should be a practice point for Pak, regardless of wins and losses, the World Cup is what matters.

I am sure there are good reasons for what happened, but these two games show a huge gap in class, talent, and mental fortitude.
They might turn it around in the final, but everyone is within their rights to consider this a one-sided contest based on whats transpired so far.

 

[Pete Rose]

Asia cup 2014, knockout vs India...

objectively correct. I dont give it much weight because of my biases. His CT innings is the only one worth of note.
If we need guys who average 33 after playing for 15 years, then maybe we deserve everything that is being said about us. I would say the same for malik as well.

 

[Sam99]

Both countries ex cricketers are idiot. Why can't they just shut up till the final? Last time our most ex cricketers and fans were saying we won ct final already and now we are already confident. We will have to play good cricket on that day to win.

 

[El Generico]

Not all trophies are created equal. If this was a world cup India would have played Kohli even if he was on a wheel chair. In a WC Indian fans would much rather have India lose 5 group games to Pakistan and win the final. That's not true of Asia Cup.

So you would be happy with 2 Asia cup group wins even if Pakistan beats you in the final?. I guess if Pakistan wins then it would be a win-win situation for both fans, You guys can be happy with the two group wins while we will make do with the Asia up trophy.

 

[El Generico]

In the last 5 ODIs that they've played (going back to the 2015 world cup), these are the results:

India win by 76 runs
India win by 124 runs
Pakistan win by 180 runs
India win by 8 wickets
India win by 9 wickets

Clearly the CT final was an anomaly and India is thoroughly outclassing Pakistan at the moment.

Well as long as the anomalies keep happening in knockout matches and tournament finals, I would be happy with that.

 

[the_outsider]

So you would be happy with 2 Asia cup group wins even if Pakistan beats you in the final?. I guess if Pakistan wins then it would be a win-win situation for both fans, You guys can be happy with the two group wins while we will make do with the Asia up trophy.

Considering that India already has 6 Asia Cup trophies I don't think a 7th would make much of a difference. Having said that I don't see Pakistan winning it.

 

[waleed88]

In the last 5 ODIs that they've played (going back to the 2015 world cup), these are the results:

India win by 76 runs
India win by 124 runs
Pakistan win by 180 runs
India win by 8 wickets
India win by 9 wickets

Clearly the CT final was an anomaly and India is thoroughly outclassing Pakistan at the moment.

Before that there was an asia cup win in ODIs for Pakistan..

a defeat in Champions Trophy 2013 for Pakistan

a 2-1 anay do series win for Pakistan..

a defeat in Asia cup 2012 against India

Sandwich that between the numerous t20 defeats vs India inflicted to us during this time I will say that it is currently the most one sided rivalry in sports cricket...

 

[waleed88]

In the last 5 ODIs that they've played (going back to the 2015 world cup), these are the results:

India win by 76 runs
India win by 124 runs
Pakistan win by 180 runs
India win by 8 wickets
India win by 9 wickets

Clearly the CT final was an anomaly and India is thoroughly outclassing Pakistan at the moment.

Before that there was an asia cup win in ODIs for Pakistan..

a defeat in Champions Trophy 2013 for Pakistan

a 2-1 anay do series win for Pakistan..

a defeat in Asia cup 2012 against India

2011 world cup semi final defeat

Sandwich that between the numerous t20 defeats vs India inflicted to us during this time I will say that it is currently the most one sided rivalry in world cricket...

 

[Sachin136]

Before that there was an asia cup win in ODIs for Pakistan..

a defeat in Champions Trophy 2013 for Pakistan

a 2-1 anay do series win for Pakistan..

a defeat in Asia cup 2012 against India

Sandwich that between the numerous t20 defeats vs India inflicted to us during this time I will say that it is currently the most one sided rivalry in sports cricket...

Yes, this decade India has certainly had the upper hand. I just didn't mention it as the teams were quite different before 2015 and Pakistan has improved.

 

[El Generico]

Considering that India already has 6 Asia Cup trophies I don't think a 7th would make much of a difference. Having said that I don't see Pakistan winning it.

Lol going by that logic, Pakistan has 73 ODI wins so the two losses don't make much of a difference. But it doesn't work like that , the past is pretty irrelevant the only thing that would matter to most fans is who wins this tournament not who won in the past.

 

[castortroy]

India have bee battering us consistently for a while now. CT was a one of or even a fluke.

India are like the old Aussie team who used to hammer us repeatedly for a long period

 

[Ozeirk]

One of two things need to happen for Pakistan to win:

Faker Zaman needs to score a quick 70+ score

India needs to lose one or two early wickets to expose their middle order

 

[light]

is it just me or am I the only one who remembers that you guys have one more game before the final? All these chest pumping about bring it on, CT17 repeat by some of you, Toygers are waiting for you guys. They ain't no pushover in this format.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Although this Indian team is extremely well knitted unit with amazing skills, but to say a team can not compete with it is overplaying it honestly. Harbhajan is not really a very credible analyst, he tends to overdo the stuff most of the times.

Any team can compete with any team, that depends on the game day performance. It's not like Pakistan is the worst team in the world. India may be very good team, but even the very best of them lose sometimes.

Although, India has a definite advantage over Pakistan, but 1 over can change the whole complexion of the game.

 

[Balthazar]

They did compete in CT finals. But it's more of an upset by Pakistan team, and only to go back to their normal state afterwards. What Harbhajan should've said is India is still a better and, all other things he said are just garbage. No need to take him seriously.

 

[Pete Rose]

you regular reminder for those insulted on behalf of the country: please beat Bangladesh first.