Top Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh killed in Iran

Prior to October 7th. 2023 was the bloodiest year for the Palastanians in casualties since 2005, so you can jump on your narrative all you want.
Then keep watching and keep shedding tears. Afterall, it's not you who is suffering.
 

Hamas 'in shock' over Haniyeh death as questions over succession loom​


The leadership of the Palestinian armed group Hamas has been left in "a state of shock" by the assassination of its political leader Ismail Haniyeh, top officials have told the BBC.

Hamas says Haniyeh, 62, was killed in an Israeli strike early on Wednesday morning in Iran. Widely considered the group's overall leader, he has been a prominent member since the late 1980s.

As head of its political bureau based in Qatar, Haniyeh led Hamas' outreach to regional governments and was central to its alliance with Tehran and its proxy groups across the Middle East.

He has been wanted by Israeli officials for months and the BBC understands that his protection team had recently vetoed a proposed trip to Lebanon amid security fears.

But he played little role in Hamas' military operations and as such may have felt free to operate more openly than some of his colleagues - reflected by three trips he has taken to Iran since the 7 October attacks in Israel.

Questions over Haniyeh's succession were already coming into view before his death. Hamas' constitution prevents any political bureau chief serving more than two terms. A new candidate was set to be chosen in 2025.

But his death could now expedite an internal battle between competing wings of the movement.

Haniyeh himself was widely viewed by Arab diplomats as a pragmatic figure compared to others at the top of Hamas - driving the group’s political outreach to regional governments as opposed to the militant options favoured by Mohammed Deif and other leaders. Deif leads the military wing of Hamas. Earlier this month Israel said it had targeted Deif in deadly air strikes on Gaza but there has been no confirmation he was killed.

One Hamas official told the BBC: “Hamas is an idea, Hamas is an ideology. And the killing of the leader will not change Hamas, and will not make Hamas surrender or make any more concessions."

It suggests an attempt by some leaders to dismiss the idea of any tension within the movement.

But in truth, the looming succession process could be lengthy and chaotic - defined by rivalries between those keen to reach a negotiated settlement to the war and extremist elements more closely allied with Iran.

CIA Director Bill Burns said recently that tensions have emerged among some senior Hamas commanders who have been urging the group's leadership to show more flexibility in negotiations and to accept a hostage-ceasefire deal.

However, anger over the death of Haniyeh - and the January assassination of his deputy Saleh al-Arouri - likely puts the hardliners in pole position.

In summer 2023, one Hamas official identified Yahya Sinwar and al-Arouri as the two leading candidates to replace Haniyeh.

On Wednesday, Hamas officials told the BBC that there were now three likely candidates to put their names forward in the coming days.

The most likely contender is Sinwar. He is the group's head in the Gaza Strip and is believed to be the mastermind behind the 7 October attacks in Israel that killed 1,200 people and sparked the ongoing conflict.

Sinwar is the key decision maker on how Hamas prosecutes the ongoing conflict and is said to be in hiding in Hamas' tunnel network beneath Gaza.

Khaled Meshaal is another possible candidate. He is widely seen a less militant candidate than Sinwar and has previously served as chief of the political bureau. However, he has difficult relations with Iran - now the key ally and supplier of Hamas' military wing.

During the height of the Syrian civil war, Meshaal - then living in Damascus - refused to support the Iranian-backed President Bashar al-Assad and his regime. The failure forced Hamas to relocate their political bureau to Qatar.

The final potential candidate is Zaher Jabareen, who is responsible for Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails. He could play a key role in ongoing negotiations on prisoner swaps with Israel.

Either way, the contest is almost certain to be drawn out.

Under normal circumstances, Hamas' political bureau is chosen by the Shura Council, whose members are elected by local council groups. The body then elects the 15-person political bureau, who choose a leader.

But members of the political bureau are scattered across the Middle East with representatives living in exile in Turkey and Qatar, making it difficult to assemble them at short notice.

Many are also on Israeli wanted lists - which may make some reluctant to travel.

Other questions continue to swirl over Hamas' response to Haniyeh's death.

In 2012, the death of the deputy lead of Hamas' military wing, Ahmed al-Jaabari, saw Hamas respond with missile fire.

So how Hamas responds to Haniyeh's death could indicate how much damage has been done to its military infrastructure after 10 months of war.

One Palestinian official also observed that his death could have a profound impact on the ongoing peace negotiations with Israel.

Haniyeh, as the acceptable face of Hamas to some in the region, was viewed as the most likely person to be able to broker a deal due to his good relations with regional diplomats.

 
Best time to walk the talk then. Can’t get more real than this incident. can it?

They will retaliate but an all out war will only be when Iran is attacked like Iraq or Libya . Israel is deseperate for the yanks to help them. When Iran did a huge attack , uk & us shot down their drones .

Israel is a temporary outpost like the crusaders before them , eventually it will be no longer but this time it will a serious global war, even Bollywood will feel it
 
Then keep watching and keep shedding tears. Afterall, it's not you who is suffering.

Any normal person will have empathy with the palastanians which you clearly don't.

By sticking to the Narrative of October the 7th, you are in denial of the brutality they have suffered for 76 years.
 
These Indians seem to think conflict started on October 7, 2023. LOL.

They need to read history and news more.

Conflict started almost 100 years ago (Balfour declaration).

Too much 🥤 & movie 🎥.

Also Pro israeli have massacred more in a few hours .

Today Israeli soldiers were freed after a debate suggesting it was ok for them to gang rape a prisoner. They probably agree to this too .
 
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Too heart wrenching this incident. Iran should be ashamed of their security, if they can't defend a high profile guy then how can they defend themselves. Another reminder why they need to develope their missiles and arsenals quick before it's too late for them.

But one thing for sure, Palestinian resistance is not going to die until the end of apartheid regime.
 
Israel can’t even defeat hamas . Hezbollah alone can punish Israel as they did in 2006 winning the war . This isn’t the 1970s , Iran’s missile technology is more than enough to destroy tel aviv & every major city . Look at the facts not your personal Hindi bias & you wouldn’t be asking such stupid questions
Iran targeted Israel with a huge missile barrage earlier this year, nothing at all happened, almost everything was shot down. Right or wrong, Israel with allies is way more powerful than Iran which has a lot of enemies in the Arab world itself.
 
Any normal person will have empathy with the palastanians which you clearly don't.

By sticking to the Narrative of October the 7th, you are in denial of the brutality they have suffered for 76 years.
No amount of brutality justified what Hamas did to innocent people on October 7th last year. Were they really that naive and ignorant to what the retaliation would be?
 
Like I said, keep watching the destruction and devastation on poor innocent people.

protests
Boycotting
Charities

Majority of us Brits are doing all we can.

The criminal state you keep on defending with your ignorant narratives are refusing ICJ rulings to carry on killing civilians
 
protests
Boycotting
Charities

Majority of us Brits are doing all we can.

The criminal state you keep on defending with your ignorant narratives are refusing ICJ rulings to carry on killing civilians

@Hitman mentioned he was a Christian. I don't know whether he is a Catholic, Protestant, or something else.

Mainstream Christians believe Jesus (PBUH) was crucified and killed by the Jews. Surprised that he and many Christians support Israel despite what mainstream Christian theology teaches regarding fate of Jesus (PBUH).

He is confused I guess. Identity crisis.
 
@Hitman mentioned he was a Christian. I don't know whether he is a Catholic, Protestant, or something else.

Mainstream Christians believe Jesus (PBUH) was crucified and killed by the Jews. Surprised that he and many Christians support Israel despite what mainstream Christian theology teaches regarding fate of Jesus (PBUH).

Christians of today should hate on Israel because a couple of jews betrayed Jesus 2000 years ago ? What kind of warped reasoning is that..
 
Christians of today should hate on Israel because a couple of jews betrayed Jesus 2000 years ago ? What kind of reasoning is that..

Same logic can be applied to Israel. No?

If it was their homeland 2000 years ago, why lay a claim now?

These Jews are also mostly European Jews. They all came from Europe. White people. Not natives to Palestinian land. Netanyahu has Polish ancestry.
 
Same logic can be applied to Israel. No?

If it was their homeland 2000 years ago, why lay a claim now?

These Jews are also mostly European Jews. They all came from Europe. White people. Not natives to Palestinian land. Actual Palestinian Jews were already in Palestine before Israel.

You ddidn't understand my post. You said Christians should hate an entire community/nation/religion because of the actions of one or two individuals, that too a long time ago.
 
You ddidn't understand my post. You said Christians should hate an entire community/nation/religion because of the actions of one or two individuals, that too a long time ago.

You are the same guy who wrote Israeli settlers were grabbing Palestinian lands legally. So, your knowledge regarding Palestine-Israel topic is limited (not surprisingly).

Even Americans themselves acknowledged Israeli settlers were grabbing lands illegally.
 
You are the same guy who wrote Israeli settlers were grabbing Palestinian lands legally. So, your knowledge regarding Palestine-Israel topic is limited (not surprisingly).

Even Americans themselves acknowledged Israeli settlers were grabbing lands illegally.

Did you even read my question lol ? It was about Jesus murder. You are going off on a tangent about israeil settlers - a different issue.
 
You ddidn't understand my post. You said Christians should hate an entire community/nation/religion because of the actions of one or two individuals, that too a long time ago.
O great, I hope other indian guys here understand that too when they justify hatred against current Muslims because of mughals and other rulers.
 
@Hitman mentioned he was a Christian. I don't know whether he is a Catholic, Protestant, or something else.

Mainstream Christians believe Jesus (PBUH) was crucified and killed by the Jews. Surprised that he and many Christians support Israel despite what mainstream Christian theology teaches regarding fate of Jesus (PBUH).

He is confused I guess. Identity crisis.
I most certainly don’t hate Jews.
 
O great, I hope other indian guys here understand that too when they justify hatred against current Muslims because of mughals and other rulers.

I think you got that wrong. The indians here hate the fact that current muslims venerate Mughal rulers.
 
I think you got that wrong. The indians here hate the fact that current muslims venerate Mughal rulers.
Well bro that was the main point of brother sweep shot, just for you info jews have the same opinion on Jesus (PBUH) as they had back then. And as far as I know no where in Talmud they condemn the alleged actions against Jesus (PBUH).
 
Iran asks the U.N. Security Council for an emergency meeting

UNITED NATIONS_ Iran is asking the U.N. Security Council to hold an emergency meeting to address “Israeli aggression and terrorist attacks” after the killing of Haniyeh in Tehran and the targeting of a top Hezbollah commander in the Lebanese capital.

Iranian U.N. Ambassador Amir Saeid Iravani in a letter on Wednesday blamed both strikes on Israel. He and said they “suggest an intention to escalate conflict and expand the war through the entire region.” He called on the international community for “decisive action to address these violations and hold the perpetrators accountable.”

Israel has taken responsibility for the strike in Beirut, saying it killed Hezbollah commander Fouad Shukur. But Israel has been silent about the strike that killed Haniyeh, though it had vowed to kill him and other Hamas leaders over the group’s Oct. 7 attack that sparked the war in Gaza.

There is no immediate response to Iran’s request from Russia, which currently holds the Security Council’s rotating presidency.

Source: AP News
 
Netanyahu says Israel ‘ready for every scenario,’ defends decision not to end the war

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warns that “challenging days are ahead.”

“Since the strike in Beirut, threats are being sounded from everywhere,” he says.

“We are ready for every scenario,” he promises, “and will stand united and determined against every threat.”

Netanyahu reiterates that the war will take time and demands stamina from Israel’s citizens. He says that for some time, he has been under pressure domestically and abroad to end the war.

“I did not give in to those voices then, and I don’t give in to them now,” he stresses.

Had he listened to them, the premier argues, Israel would not have taken out Hamas leaders and fighters, destroyed infrastructure, taken the Gaza-Egypt border area, or “created the conditions that bring us closer to terms that will not only bring our hostages back, but also allow us to achieve all of our war aims.”

“All of the achievements in recent months were attained because we did not give in,” Netanyahu says, “and because we made brave decisions in the face of great pressure at home and abroad. And I tell you it was not easy.”

“Together we will fight, and with God’s help, together we will win,” he concludes

 
Well bro that was the main point of brother sweep shot, just for you info jews have the same opinion on Jesus (PBUH) as they had back then. And as far as I know no where in Talmud they condemn the alleged actions against Jesus (PBUH).

Christians don't care what jews think about Jesus though. They're more interested in their messiah returning, which as per prophecy necessitates the return of Jews to their homeland. That's what the hard-right evangelicals believe.. and why they really support Israel/Zionism.
 
Christians don't care what jews think about Jesus though. They're more interested in their messiah returning, which as per prophecy necessitates the return of Jews to their homeland. That's what the hard-evangelicals believe..
Yep bro but there is many much more to that. Not explaining as would derail the thread
 
Hezbollah leader Nasrallah to give address on Thursday

Lebanon’s National News Agency (NNA) is reporting that Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah will give an address on Thursday, in occasion of the funeral of group leader Fuad Shukr in Beirut.

Hezbollah earlier confirmed the death of Shukr in an air strike yesterday on the Haret Hreik neighbourhood, which killed at least five people and injured dozens.

Source: Al Jazeera
 
Not hard to find turncoats in a sanctions-hit economy. More evidence Iran is riddled with informants. Now if they launch a crackdown then western governments will start crying about Iran's human rights record when these Arab despots arrest and torture people for far less.

Haniyeh by all accounts had little to do with the planning of Oct 7 as the leader of Hamas' political wing in Qatar unlike Sinwar who heads up their military faction. This barbaric attack kills off whatever slim prospects of a ceasefire was left, not that Israel were seriously negotiating one to begin with.

While it's an embarrassment for Iran yes, I would remind those feverishly celebrating this display of Israeli might to remember the ultimate humiliation that sparked this war.

The region's most powerful military, bankrolled by the world's biggest superpower, lost control of its own territory for several days to a ragtag militia from a statelet they sieged for 16 years and bombed into oblivion multiple times. 1200 of their citizens were mowed down like cattle and 240 taken hostage.

Even the Armies of Egypt and Syria couldn't seize territory in Israel proper in 1973. It's a military and intelligence disaster that'll go down in the annals of history.
 
Hezbollah leader Nasrallah to give address on Thursday

Lebanon’s National News Agency (NNA) is reporting that Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah will give an address on Thursday, in occasion of the funeral of group leader Fuad Shukr in Beirut.

Hezbollah earlier confirmed the death of Shukr in an air strike yesterday on the Haret Hreik neighbourhood, which killed at least five people and injured dozens.

Source: Al Jazeera
We can expect some empty threats and macho display from him.

Iran itself can't do anything, but their paid fighters of Hezbollah and Houthis think they can take on Israel.
 
Not hard to find turncoats in a sanctions-hit economy. More evidence Iran is riddled with informants. Now if they launch a crackdown then western governments will start crying about Iran's human rights record when these Arab despots arrest and torture people for far less.

Haniyeh by all accounts had little to do with the planning of Oct 7 as the leader of Hamas' political wing in Qatar unlike Sinwar who heads up their military faction. This barbaric attack kills off whatever slim prospects of a ceasefire was left, not that Israel were seriously negotiating one to begin with.

While it's an embarrassment for Iran yes, I would remind those feverishly celebrating this display of Israeli might to remember the ultimate humiliation that sparked this war.

The region's most powerful military, bankrolled by the world's biggest superpower, lost control of its own territory for several days to a ragtag militia from a statelet they sieged for 16 years and bombed into oblivion multiple times. 1200 of their citizens were mowed down like cattle and 240 taken hostage.

Even the Armies of Egypt and Syria couldn't seize territory in Israel proper in 1973. It's a military and intelligence disaster that'll go down in the annals of history.
Regular militaries cannot take on any powerful trained armies. Its always these hide and shoot types that cause some damage.
 
Regular militaries cannot take on any powerful trained armies. Its always these hide and shoot types that cause some damage.
These guerilla tactics are nothing new. Israel pretends as if Hamas is the only insurgent group in history that embeds itself in civilian populations.

They're doing nothing different to the Vietcong against the Americans, the Algerians against the French, FARC against Colombia, Afghans against the Soviets etc etc. Not saying I find these tactics particularly moral but it's on the attacking force to determine how to respond.

You can use precision guided missiles instead of unguided munitions AKA "dumb" bombs. You can carefully select targets instead of delegating it to some AI system with minimal human input. You don't have to deploy massive 2 ton bombs in residential areas. When there's a high likelihood of civilian casualties in a raid, the decision should be escalated up the chain of command instead of just letting local commanders bomb whatever they want as Israel allows.

All Israel have done is ensure a repeat of another October 7th in future, and a fresh pipeline of revenge consumed new recruits to Hamas and Hezbollah.
 
These guerilla tactics are nothing new. Israel pretends as if Hamas is the only insurgent group in history that embeds itself in civilian populations.

They're doing nothing different to the Vietcong against the Americans, the Algerians against the French, FARC against Colombia, Afghans against the Soviets etc etc. Not saying I find these tactics particularly moral but it's on the attacking force to determine how to respond.

You can use precision guided missiles instead of unguided munitions AKA "dumb" bombs. You can carefully select targets instead of delegating it to some AI system with minimal human input. You don't have to deploy massive 2 ton bombs in residential areas. When there's a high likelihood of civilian casualties in a raid, the decision should be escalated up the chain of command instead of just letting local commanders bomb whatever they want as Israel allows.

All Israel have done is ensure a repeat of another October 7th in future, and a fresh pipeline of revenge consumed new recruits to Hamas and Hezbollah.
Israel is doing whatever they can to completely disarm and destroy Hamas. That tried giving autonomy to Gaza for 2 decades and it backfired on them. Hamas will not live in peace. Their aim is destruction of Israel. Oct 7 is a proof of that.

Fighters who fight guerilla wars know very well that their tactics will cause civilian casualties. That is what exactly is happening. Even after all this, Hamas has not surrendered. They are only talking about peace talks now when they got badly destroyed. Basically they are looking for new life. No guarantee that Hamas will adhere to any of the peace agreements if they happen.
 
Israel is doing whatever they can to completely disarm and destroy Hamas. That tried giving autonomy to Gaza for 2 decades and it backfired on them. Hamas will not live in peace. Their aim is destruction of Israel. Oct 7 is a proof of that.

Fighters who fight guerilla wars know very well that their tactics will cause civilian casualties. That is what exactly is happening. Even after all this, Hamas has not surrendered. They are only talking about peace talks now when they got badly destroyed. Basically they are looking for new life. No guarantee that Hamas will adhere to any of the peace agreements if they happen.

Israel never wanted a Palastanian state, and
The proof is in the pudding.

76 years of occupation and massacre is the comprehensive conclusion.
 
A simple two state solutions should have been the best solution and end the conflict. What an absolute sham the global politics is in! Jews have now been for 3-4 generations in Israel so it's not ideal to move back to Europe and Palestinians have to live in their home land.

Ideally a secular state where both Palestinians and Israelis can live together, would have been perfect but the scars and mistrust run too deep for both the parties involved. Why not a pragmatic two state solutions has been implemented yet? Even if Palestinians get smaller land than 1967 borders, they deserve to live in peace and Israel citizen too deserve to live in peace.
 
Iran’s Leader Orders Attack on Israel for Haniyeh Killing, Officials Say

Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has issued an order for Iran to strike Israel directly, in retaliation for the killing in Tehran of Hamas’s leader, Ismail Haniyeh, according to three Iranian officials briefed on the order.

Mr. Khamenei gave the order at an emergency meeting of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council on Wednesday morning, shortly after Iran announced that Mr. Haniyeh had been killed, said the three Iranian officials, including two members of the Revolutionary Guards. They asked that their names not be published because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

Iran and Hamas have accused Israel of the assassination; Israel, which is at war with Hamas in the Gaza Strip, has neither acknowledged nor denied killing Mr. Haniyeh, who was in Tehran for the inauguration of Iran’s new president. Israel has a long history of killing enemies abroad, including Iranian nuclear scientists and military commanders.



 
Some reports about this assassination are not making sense. Iran is not revealing full details.
1. Was it a air strike, a missile or rocket launch from some local place?

Only Ismail Haniyeh and his bodyguards died, but none of the Islamic Jihad leaders or anyone else in the same building suffered anything. Haw specific can a targeted air strike or missile can be?

If Israel was looking to take out its enemies, they would have tried take out those other Islamic leaders too.
 
After spending all these years on PP, I learned not to discuss any Middle East conflict/Muslim issue with Indians (particularly BJP Indians).

It is like discussing Sudan civil war with someone from Vanuatu. There is a knowledge gap.
It makes me laugh when these Indians try to butt in in Palestine-Israel discussions. They don't have any stake and their historic knowledge tends to be limited/inaccurate.

For example, one Indian poster wrote that Israeli settlers were grabbing Palestinian lands legally. I couldn't believe my eyes.

And Bharatiyas have also learnt over the years that they’re dealing with mostly brainwashed people. Yet a few of our people bother to engage them which is quite commendable

There is a reason why things are the way they are and it has mostly to do with the Muslims in general being in denial about reality or simply incapable of comprehending situations.

Bharatiyas have proven their deep knowledge to equally capable people from other great nationalities like Russians, Israelis, Germany.

You’re lucky you get to interact with Bharatiyas.
 
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Why do Indians come in with Palestine-Israel issue? They have zero stake really.
There are about 240 million Indian Muslims, who will feel the stake in this conflict just like you. Does their sentiment dont count, or u presume that you speak for them too?
We are humans and since its a "humanitarian crisis", we have a stake in it. Or Do you consider one of us (Indians) or Palestinians or Israelis as sub humans?
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O great, I hope other indian guys here understand that too when they justify hatred against current Muslims because of mughals and other rulers.
But our hatred is based on their current behavior. Their refusal to hand over our temples despite court sanctioned surveys proving existence of temples under the mosques. Their objection to giving citizenship to minority refugees which has nothing to do with them. Their desecration of soldier memorials because they wanted to protest what is going on in burma.
 
Why do Indians come in with Palestine-Israel issue? They have zero stake really.

We did not acquire leadership position in global politics by sitting idle. We have been monitoring, guiding, advising and mentoring many nations putting our positive influence on the world.
 
There are about 240 million Indian Muslims, who will feel the stake in this conflict just like you. Does their sentiment dont count, or u presume that you speak for them too?
We are humans and since its a "humanitarian crisis", we have a stake in it. Or Do you consider one of us (Indians) or Palestinians or Israelis as sub humans?
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Indian Muslims are our brothers and sisters. I was referring to hostile BJP posters who cheer for Israeli attacks in Gaza.

Anyway, let's not go off-topic.
 
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Indian Muslims are our brothers and sisters. I was referring to hostile BJP posters who cheer for Israeli attacks in Gaza.

Anyway, let's not go off-topic.
Even if he is BJP, Modi Bhakt, he has a right to post his views as long as moderators are fine with it.

anyways, Let's get back to topic!
 
You are the same guy who wrote Israeli settlers were grabbing Palestinian lands legally. So, your knowledge regarding Palestine-Israel topic is limited (not surprisingly).

When did I say this ? That's an outright lie.
 
Iran vows revenge after Hamas leader assassinated in Tehran

Iran has threatened “harsh punishment” for Israel, which it says was responsible for assassinating Hamas’s leader on Wednesday.

Israel has not commented directly on the strike which killed Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran early on Wednesday.

However, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said his country had delivered “crushing blows” to its enemies in recent days, including the killing of a senior Hezbollah commander in Lebanon hours before the Tehran strike.

He warned Israelis that “challenging days lie ahead”, as fears of a wider conflict in the Middle East grow.

"Since the strike in Beirut, we have heard threats from all sides," he told a televised address.

"We are prepared for any scenario and we will stand united and determined."

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres warned against a "dangerous escalation" of hostilities in the region.

Hamas's armed wing said the death of Haniyeh, who was widely viewed as the group's overall leader, would "take the battle to new dimensions" and have major repercussions.

The group attacked Israel on 7 October, killing around 1,200 people. Since the attack, Israel has vowed to destroy Hamas.

Haniyeh, who played an important role in negotiations over a ceasefire in Gaza, was killed hours after attending the inauguration of Iran's new president, Masoud Pezeshkian, in Tehran.

A senior Hamas official told the BBC the killing took place in the same building where Haniyeh had stayed during previous visits to Iran.

Three Hamas leaders and a number of guards were with him in the same building, they said.

Khalil Al-Hayya, a senior Hamas official, told a news conference that a missile hit Haniyeh "directly", citing witnesses who were with him.

The group's leadership has been left in "a state of shock", top Hamas officials have told the BBC.

Hours before Haniyeh was targeted, Israel said it had killed senior Hezbollah leader Fuad Shukr in Beirut.

Israel believes he was responsible for a rocket attack that killed 12 people in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights on Saturday. Hezbollah has denied any involvement.

The Iran-backed group confirmed Shukr's body was found among the rubble of the residential building which was struck. Four other people, including two children, were killed.

A response from Hezbollah is almost certain. In the past, the heavily-armed, Iranian-supported group has responded to the killings of senior members by firing barrages of rockets into Israel.

The US has updated its travel guidance for citizens, advising them not to travel to Lebanon due to "rising tensions", and the UK foreign secretary has urged nationals to leave the country.

Several airlines have cancelled flights to Beirut, while United, Delta and British Airways are expected to announce they are suspending flights to Tel Aviv.

BBC
 
Hamas leader's funeral draws crowds in Iran

Thousands have turned out for the funeral procession in Iran of the Hamas political chief, Ismail Haniyeh, who was killed in a strike in Tehran on Wednesday.

Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, is leading the prayers before the Hamas leader is buried in Qatar.

US media have quoted Iranian officials as saying the supreme leader has ordered a direct attack against Israel, which it says was responsible for the attack on Iranian soil.

Israel has not commented on the assassination directly.

However, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said his country had delivered “crushing blows” to its enemies in recent days, including the killing of a senior Hezbollah commander in Lebanon hours before the Tehran strike.

He warned Israelis that “challenging days lie ahead”, as fears of a wider conflict in the Middle East grow.

"Since the strike in Beirut, we have heard threats from all sides," he told a televised address.

"We are prepared for any scenario and we will stand united and determined."

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres warned against a "dangerous escalation" of hostilities in the region.

Hamas's armed wing said the death of Haniyeh, who was widely viewed as the group's overall leader, would "take the battle to new dimensions" and have major repercussions.

The group attacked Israel on 7 October, killing around 1,200 people. Since the attack, Israel has vowed to destroy Hamas.

Haniyeh, who played an important role in negotiations over a ceasefire in Gaza, was killed hours after attending the inauguration of Iran's new president, Masoud Pezeshkian, in Tehran.

A senior Hamas official told the BBC the killing took place in the same building where Haniyeh had stayed during previous visits to Iran.

Three Hamas leaders and a number of guards were with him in the same building, they said.

Khalil Al-Hayya, a senior Hamas official, told a news conference that a missile hit Haniyeh "directly", citing witnesses who were with him.

The group's leadership has been left in "a state of shock", top Hamas officials have told the BBC.

Hours before Haniyeh was targeted, Israel said it had killed senior Hezbollah leader Fuad Shukr in Beirut.

Israel believes he was responsible for a rocket attack that killed 12 people in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights on Saturday. Hezbollah has denied any involvement.

The Iran-backed group confirmed Shukr's body was found among the rubble of the residential building which was struck. Four other people, including two children, were killed.

BBC
 
Indian Muslims are our brothers and sisters. I was referring to hostile BJP posters who cheer for Israeli attacks in Gaza.

Anyway, let's not go off-topic.

This is exactly why we have come to despise your lot.

If a Hindu lives next door to you no matter how nice he is, you will conspire against him.

But Muslims who live in other countries, whom you don’t even know, they are brothers for you.

We don’t need this kind of brotherhood anyway from such deeply prejudiced people.

Hindus know better today.
 
Iran asks the U.N. Security Council for an emergency meeting

UNITED NATIONS_ Iran is asking the U.N. Security Council to hold an emergency meeting to address “Israeli aggression and terrorist attacks” after the killing of Haniyeh in Tehran and the targeting of a top Hezbollah commander in the Lebanese capital.

Iranian U.N. Ambassador Amir Saeid Iravani in a letter on Wednesday blamed both strikes on Israel. He and said they “suggest an intention to escalate conflict and expand the war through the entire region.” He called on the international community for “decisive action to address these violations and hold the perpetrators accountable.”

Israel has taken responsibility for the strike in Beirut, saying it killed Hezbollah commander Fouad Shukur. But Israel has been silent about the strike that killed Haniyeh, though it had vowed to kill him and other Hamas leaders over the group’s Oct. 7 attack that sparked the war in Gaza.

There is no immediate response to Iran’s request from Russia, which currently holds the Security Council’s rotating presidency.

Source: AP News

So Iran ran to the UN crying?

That’s an anticlimax for a lot of warmongers here believing Iran had the grapefruits to challenge Israel.
 
Iran is such a dud, keeps “vowing” revenge. I expect Iran to shoot out their own plane rather save any person of importance.
In last 4 years Iran has been exposed badly.
 
Iran is such a dud, keeps “vowing” revenge. I expect Iran to shoot out their own plane rather save any person of importance.
In last 4 years Iran has been exposed badly.
To the average person across the Arab and Muslim world.

Who has been exposed more?

Iran or every other Arab/Muslim country?

Russia or the United States?

People want to compare Iran to Israel, UK, France and US but they are light years behind.

Compare them to Saudi, UAE, Kuwaiti or Jordanian governments, and you will see.

Right now Iran has defacto control of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen.
 
Some reports about this assassination are not making sense. Iran is not revealing full details.
1. Was it a air strike, a missile or rocket launch from some local place?

Only Ismail Haniyeh and his bodyguards died, but none of the Islamic Jihad leaders or anyone else in the same building suffered anything. Haw specific can a targeted air strike or missile can be?

If Israel was looking to take out its enemies, they would have tried take out those other Islamic leaders too.

What other Islamic leaders ? Politicians aren’t .

Israel fired a missile from outside Iranian airspace . Any nation can do this to another , it’s not difficult .

He may have been using a smart phone.

People are forgetting Iran launched the biggest drone & missile strike in recent history on Israel only a few months ago . Uk & USA were needed to shoot them down . Iran can do serious damage if they want & may have to strike Israel now . It may be when Lebanon starts a full war , the yanks will get involved & who knows where this will lead …

F-16s are in Ukraine now too , the world war stage is ready , let’s hope sanity prevails but with a satanic messianic Jewish cult writing the script , it doesn’t look good .
 
‘Fire of anger and revenge intensifying’: Iran’s IRGC commander

Hossein Salami, commander-in-chief of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), has issued a statement, offering condolences to IRGC adviser Milad Beidi, who was killed in an Israeli attack in the suburbs of Beirut on Tuesday.

Beidi’s legacy will “inspire the zealous and revolutionary youth of today and tomorrow”, Salami said in comments carried by Iran’s official IRNA news agency.

His killing, Salami added, will further fuel the “fire of anger and revenge” towards Israel.

Al Jazeera
 
What stake does a Bangladeshi Canadian has in this issue? You guys ain’t go any stake either.

I am a Muslim. So, this issue obviously affects me.

If you are not a Muslim/Jew/Christian and/or you are not a Palestinian, you have no stake.
 
When did I say this ? That's an outright lie.

You wrote this on October 25, 2023 (reference: https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...e-against-zionism.301206/page-3#post-11936507):

You are lying.

Modern day Israeilis are mix of native Sephardic Jews and European Jews who were immigrating since 1870s. ..they didn't conquer or steal the lands (like an invading army), they brought the land from Arab and Turkish landlords in that region after immigrating and created their own settlements. It was legally done. There is no such thing as 'natives' of the land. By that logic, Jews were original natives of that area from 2000 years ago.

Due to religious bigotry and antisemitism in the 1930s, the British/UN partitioned the area into two states just like the British partitioned the subcontinent into two states.

Muslims didn't want to live under one state Hindu rule -> so they got Pakistan
Jews didn't want to live under one state Muslim rule ->so they got Israel.

Your post was factually incorrect.
 
To the average person across the Arab and Muslim world.

Who has been exposed more?

Iran or every other Arab/Muslim country?

Russia or the United States?

People want to compare Iran to Israel, UK, France and US but they are light years behind.

Compare them to Saudi, UAE, Kuwaiti or Jordanian governments, and you will see.

Right now Iran has defacto control of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen.
Fair.. I respected Iran for their stand all these years but maybe they just need to get better allies and realistic expectations.
 
I am a Muslim. So, this issue obviously affects me.

If you are not a Muslim/Jew/Christian and/or you are not a Palestinian, you have no stake.
I would say that's a silly argument.

By that reasoning, no one has a stake in folks starving in sub-saharan Africa except co-religionists and we should leave them to their fate.

Similarly US students who're protesting against Israel and US policy there should stop immediately since they have no connection to Palestine or Israel.

People are affected by what they have an emotional connection to - religion is one small way to have that connection. I'm glad you have that and think it's important but it's irrelevant to me and to many others.
 

Hamas chief Haniyeh was assassinated in Tehran by explosive device: Report​


Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was assassinated on Wednesday by an explosive device covertly smuggled into the guesthouse where he was staying in the Iranian capital Tehran, The New York Times reports, citing Middle Eastern and US officials.

According to the report, US officials believe that Israel was behind the assassination.

 
But our hatred is based on their current behavior. Their refusal to hand over our temples despite court sanctioned surveys proving existence of temples under the mosques. Their objection to giving citizenship to minority refugees which has nothing to do with them. Their desecration of soldier memorials because they wanted to protest what is going on in burma.
You have already taken back Babri mosque and are hell bent to take some century old sites too despite India being a massive land and Hindu elites right wing government in charge. And now you feel they can't even air their dissent on CAA etc.

TBH the reasons you have mentioned look too trivial if minorities in US have been half the decent as Muslims in India then they would have considered them the most fortunate country in the world. I think we are derailing the discussion so if you wish to discuss it further could do it in another thread.
 
We did not acquire leadership position in global politics by sitting idle. We have been monitoring, guiding, advising and mentoring many nations putting our positive influence on the world.

Agree. Your ilk sure influencing positively.
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India’s Hindu right wing has long advocated for its vision across the world. Overseas offshoots of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) have helped in this, as have allied groups like the Vishwa Hindu Parishad or World Hindu Council.

Now, recent events in Leicester in the United Kingdom suggest that their dream of propagating Hindutva, their political philosophy, is coming true in new ways – violently, on the streets of cities far from India.

 
I am a Muslim. So, this issue obviously affects me.

If you are not a Muslim/Jew/Christian and/or you are not a Palestinian, you have no stake.

So you will decide who got stake?

Israel and India are better trade partners than most Muslim nations are with each other.

Just because in your mind Muslim Ummah holds value, in other peoples mind national allies can hold similar value.

That’s the problem with a lot of Muslims in general, they don’t understand the world beyond their limited religious brain.
 
So you will decide who got stake?

Israel and India are better trade partners than most Muslim nations are with each other.

Just because in your mind Muslim Ummah holds value, in other peoples mind national allies can hold similar value.

That’s the problem with a lot of Muslims in general, they don’t understand the world beyond their limited religious brain.

That's all fine having trade issues. What we don't understand is why are Hindutwa brigade willing to join up with israel forces and kill palastanians?
 
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That's all fine having trade issues. What we don't understand is why are Hindutwa brigade willing to join up with israel forces and kill palastanians?

Why should they? Why don’t you go and fight against Israeli forces rather than asking?
 
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I have a sneaky suspicion his head was handed on a plate, as part of the peace deal with Israel.

Israel and peace deal? Until next time they kill many thousand more. They have been killing and occupying Palestinains for many decades. There will never be peace in the region and pretty much entire world until Israel and their terrorists are collectively dealt with by the World. They are a genoicdal, barbaric, inhumane occupational rogue state which is only able to get away this long because of Uncle Sam. Hope the day comes soon when they are taught a lesson collectively, world took action against Nazis so shouldn't be any different against pro israelis eventually
 
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