Top Indian fact-checker in court for post calling out hate speech

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Top Indian fact-checker in court for post calling out hate speech

BBC Mohammed Zubair is a leading Indian fact-checker and journalist BBC

Mohammed Zubair is a co-founder of the fact-checking website

More than two years after the Supreme Court granted bail and ordered “immediate release” of Mohammed Zubair from prison, the leading Indian fact-checker and journalist is once again back in court.

On Tuesday, the Allahabad high court briefly heard his petition in a fresh case as police in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh seek his arrest, accusing him of “endangering sovereignty, unity and integrity of India”.

The charge is non-bailable and a conviction could mean a minimum of seven years in jail and fine or even life imprisonment.

Zubair, who’s a co-founder of the fact-checking website called AltNews, denies all the accusations against him. “I feel I’m being targeted because of the work I do,” he told the BBC.

Just 20 minutes into Tuesday's hearing, the judges recused themselves from hearing the case - now the case will have to be taken up by another court in the coming days.

Described by some as “a thorn in the side for the government because he's single-handedly taking on hate crimes", Zubair is wanted in connection with a post he put out on X spotlighting hate speech by a controversial Hindu priest.

Shared on 3 October, the post included a video that showed Yati Narsinghanand delivering comments against Prophet Muhammad that many Muslims found hurtful.

The 60-year-old priest is the head of the powerful Dasna Devi temple in Uttar Pradesh’s Ghaziabad town and has been repeatedly in the news for openly calling for violence against Muslims. In 2022, he was arrested for making Islamophobic and misogynistic comments and spent a month in jail.

A day after Zubair’s post pointed out his latest offensive comments, Muslims protested outside the temple. Police said 10 people were arrested for allegedly pelting stones during the protest, PTI reported.

Several Muslim groups lodged police complaints against Narsinghanand and the priest disappeared from public view amid reports that he had been arrested. Police, however, denied that.

Yati Narsinghanand has often made news for openly calling for violence against Muslims

A few days later, hundreds of Narsinghanand's supporters surrounded the local police station, demanding action against Zubair. Police opened a case against the fact-checker after Uditya Tyagi – a politician from India’s governing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and a close aide of the priest - lodged a complaint.

In the initial complaint, Zubair faced somewhat milder charges - including promoting enmity between different religious groups, defamation and giving false evidence. But last week, police added Section 152 of Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita - as India’s new legal code is called - to the list of charges, accusing him of “endangering sovereignty, unity and integrity of India”.

This, legal experts say, allows police to arrest Zubair. His lawyer has sought interim bail and also asked the court to throw out the case.

In his defence, Zubair says he was not the only one who had posted Narsinghanand’s remarks and that a number of journalists, politicians and media channels had tweeted the video even before him.

“Police have registered a case against me based on complaints from the followers of a man who routinely gives hate speeches. And they are going after someone who's reporting hate speeches, while people giving hate speeches are going free,” he says.

“This is an attempt to gag people trying to hold the government to account,” he adds.

Pratik Sinha, Zubair’s colleague and the other co-founder of AltNews, says the authorities go after Zubair because of the work he does and because it makes an impact.

“It's a classic case of shooting the messenger. It's a witch-hunt,” he told the BBC.

“Why are the police invoking more stringent charges against him nearly two months later? It's not just Narsinghanand and his supporters going after him - this is actually the government going after him.”

The addition of the draconian charge against Zubair has also been criticised by rights organisations and groups representing journalists and media in India who say that Section 152 is a “new version” of the colonial-era sedition law.

Amnesty International India said it was an example of how the law was being used “to harass, intimidate, and persecute human rights defenders, activists, journalists, students, filmmakers, singers, actors and writers for peacefully exercising their right to freedom of expression”.

The Press Club of India condemned the move and demanded withdrawal of the police case against Zubair.

“All sane minds have been opposing this section as it has potential to silence the free thinkers and media. It can also be imposed against those who are critical of dispensation,” it said in a statement.

Digipub, an association of digital media organisations, condemned the “escalating harassment” of Zubair and described the allegations against him as “unfounded”.

“This is a vindictive and unreasonable over-reach by agencies of the state,” it said.

Source: BBC
 
Police and courts in India are infested with these sanghi rats aka bhakts, the future is bleak for India as far free speech goes.
 
Inciting violence is a crime.

According to the article in the OP, it was a 60 year old Hindu priest who was inciting violence against Muslims, and the journalist brought it to the public attention. So seems like he has been charged for calling out someone for inciting violence. I am not sure how that works but seems like they have got things mixed up somewhat.
 
According to the article in the OP, it was a 60 year old Hindu priest who was inciting violence against Muslims, and the journalist brought it to the public attention. So seems like he has been charged for calling out someone for inciting violence. I am not sure how that works but seems like they have got things mixed up somewhat.

A Hindu guy made some comments of prophet Muhammad (pbuh). This guy twisted it on X and unleashed a mob on that person.

This isn't the first time he has done it.

You cannot cry fire in a crowded theatre.
 
A Hindu guy made some comments of prophet Muhammad (pbuh). This guy twisted it on X and unleashed a mob on that person.

This isn't the first time he has done it.

You cannot cry fire in a crowded theatre.

How did he unleash a mob on that Hindu guy? Can you back this up with some quotes so we can judge this "incitement to violence"?
 
How did he unleash a mob on that Hindu guy? Can you back this up with some quotes so we can judge this "incitement to violence"?
You know if someone posts that so and so has said bad things about Islamic Prophet, the results can be devastating. There are enough people in this world we live who are willing to do "Sar Tan Se Juda".
 
This Zubair guy is the founder of Alt News who is an expert in dog whistling. He is famous for putting targets on people and last year he also painted a target on an American Journalist for exposing Hamas as Terrorist organization.

He also dog whistled against JNU Professor Anand Ranganathan.

For this, Mr. Zoo Bear twisted it to Genocide against Kahsmiris. :facepalm:
 
How did he unleash a mob on that Hindu guy? Can you back this up with some quotes so we can judge this "incitement to violence"?
He has since deleted his tweet.

The incident happened in September last week. FIR was registered. On 3rd October this guy zubair started tweeting on this issue using incendiary language. Inciting Muslims to do something.

The same was retweeted and spread by his group(All tweets deleted).

A Muslim mob surrounded the Dasna temple and attacked. Police brought the situation under control.

Issue went out of control as Hindus now started gathering due to attack on the temple.

A full fledged riot was in the making.
 
You know if someone posts that so and so has said bad things about Islamic Prophet, the results can be devastating. There are enough people in this world we live who are willing to do "Sar Tan Se Juda".

He's a journalist, he is reporting hate speech which other journalists are reporting as well. Even his non-Muslim colleagues are claiming this is a case of shooting the messenger. India is a country where inter-religious hatred seems to be state policy where the future leader of the country barely conceals his dog whistle anti-Muslim agenda, yet a journalist gets arrested for reporting hate speech from a Hindu priest?
 
He's a journalist, he is reporting hate speech which other journalists are reporting as well. Even his non-Muslim colleagues are claiming this is a case of shooting the messenger. India is a country where inter-religious hatred seems to be state policy where the future leader of the country barely conceals his dog whistle anti-Muslim agenda, yet a journalist gets arrested for reporting hate speech from a Hindu priest?

I have said this before. India is currently an unsafe country for minorities and women.

Yet these Indians have the audacity to point fingers at other countries.
 
He has since deleted his tweet.

The incident happened in September last week. FIR was registered. On 3rd October this guy zubair started tweeting on this issue using incendiary language. Inciting Muslims to do something.

The same was retweeted and spread by his group(All tweets deleted).

A Muslim mob surrounded the Dasna temple and attacked. Police brought the situation under control.

Issue went out of control as Hindus now started gathering due to attack on the temple.

A full fledged riot was in the making.
Has police taken any action against the idiot Yati Narsinghanand recently? If not, then why hounding this guy who exposed him?
 
He has made some blasphemous remarks so better to not share it but put this guy behind bar.
Post a video evidence or tweets. Did he ask for the mass murder of Muslims? Or was he criticizing the Prophet of Islam? You can put that in spoiler.
 
Post a video evidence or tweets. Did he ask for the mass murder of Muslims? Or was he criticizing the Prophet of Islam?
You can read in OP, he made remarks against Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

Shared on 3 October, the post included a video that showed Yati Narsinghanand delivering comments against Prophet Muhammad that many Muslims found hurtful.
 
Criticizing religious figures is not a crime. Why should he be arrested?

Calling for murders or lynching is a hate crime.

Big difference.
Well it's a pseudo crime even in EU, may be not for you but derogatory remarks against religious figures is not tolerated in many countries.

And the beauty of Islam is that it condemns such remarks against the Gods of all religions.

 
Well it's a pseudo crime even in EU, may be not for you but derogatory remarks against religious figures is not tolerated in many countries.

And the beauty of Islam is that it condemns such remarks against the Gods of all religions.

No need to make sacrilegious remarks on other people's Gods when you can demolish the idols.

Can you tell me what happened to the 365 idols of Holy Kaaba?
 
No need to make sacrilegious remarks on other people's Gods when you can demolish the idols.

Can you tell me what happened to the 365 idols of Holy Kaaba?
When you know it then why asking, Holy Kaaba has always been the original site of monotheism and just for a time being gets altered to the hub of polytheism.

So Muslims just restore its original nature. Don't you Indians following the Islamic figures by claiming your even random and unsubstantiated temples. Let alone the focal place of worship.
 
When you know it then why asking, Holy Kaaba has always been the original site of monotheism and just for a time being gets altered to the hub of polytheism.

So Muslims just restore its original nature. Don't you Indians following the Islamic figures by claiming your even random and unsubstantiated temples. Let alone the focal place of worship.
Huh!! There is no evidence of any Monotheism in Kaaba. Its just a claim made by Islam. Kaaba was a multi faith sanctuary. It had idols of Jesus, Mary, Ba'al, Laat. Mannat and Uzza among others. Let me know if any Archeology was ever done there to support the evidence for an Original Mosque there.

Anyone can claim anything. But the claim only stands when Archeology is done on the structure and proper evidence needs to be found of any previous Temple or Mosque or Church etc.

If you are talking about Babri Masjid issue, there was evidence of an ancient temple found there. Inscriptions of Vishu-Hari and the 12 temple pillars were found by Archeologists. It took time to gather evidence and hence the case dragged on for over 2 decades. Finally the Court verdict came in Hindu's favor.

I am not a supporter of demolition of any structure. It is insane and undemocratic. But to say that there is no evidence of Ancient temple is ludicrous. Just shows that Babar was a fanatic. Typical Turkic looney.
 
When you know it then why asking, Holy Kaaba has always been the original site of monotheism and just for a time being gets altered to the hub of polytheism.

So Muslims just restore its original nature. Don't you Indians following the Islamic figures by claiming your even random and unsubstantiated temples. Let alone the focal place of worship.
This is the objectivity I was talking about.
 
Huh!! There is no evidence of any Monotheism in Kaaba. Its just a claim made by Islam. Kaaba was a multi faith sanctuary. It had idols of Jesus, Mary, Ba'al, Laat. Mannat and Uzza among others. Let me know if any Archeology was ever done there to support the evidence for an Original Mosque there.

Anyone can claim anything. But the claim only stands when Archeology is done on the structure and proper evidence needs to be found of any previous Temple or Mosque or Church etc.

If you are talking about Babri Masjid issue, there was evidence of an ancient temple found there. Inscriptions of Vishu-Hari and the 12 temple pillars were found by Archeologists. It took time to gather evidence and hence the case dragged on for over 2 decades. Finally the Court verdict came in Hindu's favor.

I am not a supporter of demolition of any structure. It is insane and undemocratic. But to say that there is no evidence of Ancient temple is ludicrous. Just shows that Babar was a fanatic. Typical Turkic looney.
A Muslim doesn't need evidence when something is mentioned in Holy Quran or could be corroborated by authentic sayings of Prophet but still for non Muslims one need to fetch evidence and I shall give you one.
 
A Muslim doesn't need evidence when something is mentioned in Holy Quran or could be corroborated by authentic sayings of Prophet but still for non Muslims one need to fetch evidence and I shall give you one.
Awesome joke. :ROFLMAO:

If a Hindu says the same you said, you will call him some nice names.:vk2
 
He’s not as innocent as he’s being portrayed by Muslims. The guy almost never talks about Hindu rights or about Bharat related topics but devotes all his efforts on creating a negative narrative of the BJP government through social media, many times by twisting facts. I have no sympathy with such anti nationals and he’s extremely fortunate that he’s alive despite being an anti national and an anti Hindu. If this was a Muslim country and he was a non Muslim, he would have been hanged long time ago by Islamist mob.
 
Huh!! There is no evidence of any Monotheism in Kaaba. Its just a claim made by Islam. Kaaba was a multi faith sanctuary. It had idols of Jesus, Mary, Ba'al, Laat. Mannat and Uzza among others. Let me know if any Archeology was ever done there to support the evidence for an Original Mosque there.

Anyone can claim anything. But the claim only stands when Archeology is done on the structure and proper evidence needs to be found of any previous Temple or Mosque or Church etc.

If you are talking about Babri Masjid issue, there was evidence of an ancient temple found there. Inscriptions of Vishu-Hari and the 12 temple pillars were found by Archeologists. It took time to gather evidence and hence the case dragged on for over 2 decades. Finally the Court verdict came in Hindu's favor.

I am not a supporter of demolition of any structure. It is insane and undemocratic. But to say that there is no evidence of Ancient temple is ludicrous. Just shows that Babar was a fanatic. Typical Turkic looney.
The introduction of idol worship at the Kaaba is attributed to Amr ibn Luhayy, a leader of the Banu Khuza'a tribe. He traveled to Syria, encountered idol worship, and brought back the idol Hubal, which he installed at the Kaaba, promoting its worship among the people of Mecca14. This act marked a significant shift from the monotheistic beliefs established by Ibrahim (Abraham) and led to the proliferation of idol worship in the region


All Paleo-Arabic inscriptions from the fifth and sixth centuries, which have been found in all major regions of the Arabian peninsula and in the southern Levant, are either monotheistic or explicitly Christian

(From Wikipedia)
 
The introduction of idol worship at the Kaaba is attributed to Amr ibn Luhayy, a leader of the Banu Khuza'a tribe. He traveled to Syria, encountered idol worship, and brought back the idol Hubal, which he installed at the Kaaba, promoting its worship among the people of Mecca14. This act marked a significant shift from the monotheistic beliefs established by Ibrahim (Abraham) and led to the proliferation of idol worship in the region


All Paleo-Arabic inscriptions from the fifth and sixth centuries, which have been found in all major regions of the Arabian peninsula and in the southern Levant, are either monotheistic or explicitly Christian

(From Wikipedia)
This story of Amr Ibn Luhay comes from Islamic traditions. No independent sources to verify. You have to take Seerat Rasulallah and Bukhari for this story. Of course they will say that he is the one that brought idol worship. It had to start somewhere to justify the destruction of idols.

Ba’al worship is more than 3500 years old in levant. Ba’al is as old as Yahweh and EL.
Pretty sure the Ba’al mania spread to Arabian desert a lot early than the 3rd century that Islamic sources claim. Arabs were merchants and it is not difficult to pickup stories and myths from other cultures.

Even if we take it on face value, those idols have been there for over 4 centuries before they got destroyed by Prophet. No consideration for the sentiments of the followers of those Gods.

Ps- Polytheism and nature worship are a lot older than Monotheism. We have evidence of nature worship and fertility Gods all over the world. Even the Egyptian Gods existed well before the Jewish God “EL” was ever mentioned in history.
 
This story of Amr Ibn Luhay comes from Islamic traditions. No independent sources to verify. You have to take Seerat Rasulallah and Bukhari for this story. Of course they will say that he is the one that brought idol worship. It had to start somewhere to justify the destruction of idols.

Ba’al worship is more than 3500 years old in levant. Ba’al is as old as Yahweh and EL.
Pretty sure the Ba’al mania spread to Arabian desert a lot early than the 3rd century that Islamic sources claim. Arabs were merchants and it is not difficult to pickup stories and myths from other cultures.

Even if we take it on face value, those idols have been there for over 4 centuries before they got destroyed by Prophet. No consideration for the sentiments of the followers of those Gods.

Ps- Polytheism and nature worship are a lot older than Monotheism. We have evidence of nature worship and fertility Gods all over the world. Even the Egyptian Gods existed well before the Jewish God “EL” was ever mentioned in history.
I can answer your queries in another thread as this debate will derail the thread.
 
Has police taken any action against the idiot Yati Narsinghanand recently? If not, then why hounding this guy who exposed him?

FIR against Narsinghanand. Arrested. Later released on bail.

But Zubair is known for trying to incote violence.
 
Well it's a pseudo crime even in EU, may be not for you but derogatory remarks against religious figures is not tolerated in many countries.

And the beauty of Islam is that it condemns such remarks against the Gods of all religions.


European freedom of speech laws allow burning of religious texts, cartoons and what not.
 
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